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2012-06-19 02:52:32 PM  

TomD9938: FTA: A record number of background checks were conducted during the election month of November 2008, and retailers reported sharp increases in firearm sales

In other words,

President Obama knows who you are and where you live.


That's just the numbnuts not bright enough to purchase used firearms at gunshows using only cash, a wink and a nod.
 
2012-06-19 02:53:14 PM  

Callous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: President Obama should support a tax credit for buying and registering a gun, just to f**k with them.

Gun registration is unconstitutional. You have to call it a "Firearms Transfer Database" like Massachusetts does. They aren't keeping a database of the guns you own, they are keeping a database of every time a gun changes hands.


Really? In most states gun registration is just straight-up voluntary. Unless you report your specific serial number, the best the LEOs can get is that a given gun was sold by a given retailer and that you also bought a gun from that retailer within a given time frame.

I mean, registering your shiat isn't necessarily a bad idea, I kind of want any jackass that steals my stuff to have a hard time fencing it, but you're not obligated.

Dimensio: No; this thread is a continuation of "violent crime will skyrocket due to increased firearm and ammunition sales" discussion.


Awesome, a blind assertion completely lacking in any kind of supporting evidence thread? As the millionaire owner of a 316-vehicle classic car collection, I love those even more than teaching the black-belts that come to study at my feet on my private island by the beer volcano.
 
2012-06-19 02:53:26 PM  

Quasar: I absolutely love the NRA's logic. Obama is going to take away your guns. He hasn't done anything of the sort yet, and in fact has loosened some gun regulations, but he'll take them away - that's the plan. It's masterful. He's lulling you into a false sense of security because it will be that much sweeter to tear off the second amendment from the constitution itself and wipe his butt with it in front of you. He's just waiting for the right time to do it.

The right time being, of course, only after an incredibly difficult not remotely guaranteed re-election. Masterful.


We he does have a compliant congress that will pass any legislation he offers. If he loses, he'll pass it during the lame duck session. If he wins, just watch out!
 
2012-06-19 02:53:26 PM  
Bullets or ammunition?

There's a difference.
 
2012-06-19 02:53:48 PM  

Callous: Treygreen13: Is this the Followup thread to the "GUN NUTS ARE GOING TO KILL OBAMA" thread we got in '08? And in '09? And in '10? And in '11?

I always chuckle when people think it's some kind of sign of some political movement when the weather gets warm and ammo sales goes up.

I guess more people at the range should alarm me. It must be a result of NRA propaganda and racist Obama hatred and has nothing to do with the nice weather and the cold and rainy months being over.


My area had a Groupon for the range. Shooting isn't something I've done for recreation in a long time, but I went for the deal. I'm sure with the proliferation of social media the number of people going to the range would increase.

I suppose the bigger worry would be the increase in firepower present at the range. If Cletus shows up with Barret .50 you'd start to worry.
 
2012-06-19 02:54:25 PM  
That's why I stocked up in March. I should have enough bullets, powder and primers to last about 1.5-2 years. Hopefully the prices will start dropping by 2014. I learned my lesson after not being able to buy primers or bullets for a large chunk of 2009. I wish there were a better way, but I don't see another route if I want to keep shooting. :-\
 
2012-06-19 02:55:02 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: That reminds me, I need to buy another 1000 rounds of .45


Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?

// thinking about buying a .40 as soon as a $7-800 price tag doesn't scare me more than getting robbed
 
2012-06-19 02:55:40 PM  

i.r.id10t: I've been stockpiling 22, simply because that is what I shoot mostly. Still have most of the 45 and 7.62x51 I bought 5 years ago, simply because I don't shoot the centerfire a lot.

Why stock up on the 22? Because I couldn't find any to buy during 2009. And I've got a new GSG-1911-22 and a 22 conversion on the way for my FAL.


I picked up the Sig 1911-22 yesterday. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but it sure looks like a fun pistol to shoot.
 
2012-06-19 02:55:54 PM  

Quasar: I absolutely love the NRA's logic. Obama is going to take away your guns. He hasn't done anything of the sort yet, and in fact has loosened some gun regulations, but he'll take them away - that's the plan. It's masterful. He's lulling you into a false sense of security because it will be that much sweeter to tear off the second amendment from the constitution itself and wipe his butt with it in front of you. He's just waiting for the right time to do it.

The right time being, of course, only after an incredibly difficult not remotely guaranteed re-election. Masterful.


Yes, it was Obama that did all that. It absolutely wasn't the Republicans slipping something into an unrelated bill that he wanted passed. With you idiots giving Obama credit for the few good things that the Republicans have managed to do, I'm shocked that they don't want to work together more often.

LasersHurt: I am pro-gun ownership, so understand when I say: Gun nuts, this is why people are scared of you.


People are scared of us because we buy bullets for the guns we own? Fark the little pussies.
 
2012-06-19 02:57:00 PM  

manimal2878: Welfare Xmas: Also non-hybridized seeds, food and water.

Really? Do you grow all your own food from those seeds now? Why do you think you will suddenly master agriculture when the SHTF? Not to mention you will be a season behind on food production unless you are already doing it.


OMFG, you're right I'll just go ahead and kill myself when TEOTWAWKI hits. Might as well give up, right?

//gardening isn't that hard
//non-hybridized seed makes great barter
//Got any problem with me living on stockpiled food while the next crop grows
 
2012-06-19 02:58:01 PM  
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
 
2012-06-19 02:59:04 PM  

Callous: The_Sponge: Limac333: Lionel Mandrake: I know this isn't an NRA thread per se, but...

F*CK THE NRA

As a gun owner, this bears repeating.


As a gun owner, the correct answer is f*ck the Brady Campaign and the Million Mom March.

This.

Follow the brady camp on twitter, now there's some paranoia.


Now, now There's no reason why they can't all fark off.
 
2012-06-19 02:59:22 PM  
God Obama is so GOOD at taking all the guns away.

/sarc
 
2012-06-19 02:59:26 PM  

umad: Yes, it was Obama that did all that. It absolutely wasn't the Republicans slipping something into an unrelated bill that he wanted passed.


But he's responsible for Guantanamo still being open, right?
 
2012-06-19 02:59:32 PM  
boourns.cjb.net

/obligatory
 
2012-06-19 02:59:40 PM  
Silly me, I invested all my money in ballot boxes.
 
2012-06-19 03:00:32 PM  
And a lot of the same morans stockpiling ammo because the NRA told them too will turn around at the end of the week and complain that they have no money to buy food.
 
2012-06-19 03:01:14 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: umad: Yes, it was Obama that did all that. It absolutely wasn't the Republicans slipping something into an unrelated bill that he wanted passed.

But he's responsible for Guantanamo still being open, right?


Your strawman certainly disproves my point. You win.
 
2012-06-19 03:01:16 PM  
Clearly, it's revolution time because hollow point bullets are being purchased by the DHS in record numbers

Enough for every man, woman and child.
 
2012-06-19 03:01:22 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: President Obama should support a tax credit for buying and registering a gun, just to f**k with them.


Or allow a dependency exemption for each firearm owned up to 100 per family
 
2012-06-19 03:01:24 PM  
Hey, I was right, it is the zombie apocolypse that is causing this to some extent.
 
2012-06-19 03:02:22 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: And a lot of the same morans stockpiling ammo because the NRA told them too will turn around at the end of the week and complain that they have no money to buy food.


S'aright. There's always SNAP.
 
2012-06-19 03:02:49 PM  

umad: Quasar: I absolutely love the NRA's logic. Obama is going to take away your guns. He hasn't done anything of the sort yet, and in fact has loosened some gun regulations, but he'll take them away - that's the plan. It's masterful. He's lulling you into a false sense of security because it will be that much sweeter to tear off the second amendment from the constitution itself and wipe his butt with it in front of you. He's just waiting for the right time to do it.

The right time being, of course, only after an incredibly difficult not remotely guaranteed re-election. Masterful.

Yes, it was Obama that did all that. It absolutely wasn't the Republicans slipping something into an unrelated bill that he wanted passed. With you idiots giving Obama credit for the few good things that the Republicans have managed to do, I'm shocked that they don't want to work together more often.

LasersHurt: I am pro-gun ownership, so understand when I say: Gun nuts, this is why people are scared of you.

People are scared of us because we buy bullets for the guns we own? Fark the little pussies.


He said he was pro-gun, not pro-ammo, duh.
 
2012-06-19 03:02:51 PM  

umad: LasersHurt: I am pro-gun ownership, so understand when I say: Gun nuts, this is why people are scared of you.

People are scared of us because we buy bullets for the guns we own? Fark the little pussies.


Because you stockpile like maniacs every time there's an election "just in case" you need to go on a goddamned rampage or freedom-war. Or I guess societal-collapse-post-apocalypse preparation?
 
2012-06-19 03:03:11 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I know this isn't an NRA thread per se, but...

F*CK THE NRA


As a former member of the NRA... I concur.

/F*ck 'em
 
2012-06-19 03:03:11 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?

// thinking about buying a .40 as soon as a $7-800 price tag doesn't scare me more than getting robbed


Damn, I wish I could remember where my roommate got it. We went halves on it. Down to one box each now, need more for the range.
 
2012-06-19 03:03:59 PM  
Hey, it's that thread where people with absolutely no knowledge of history act like this is the most dangerous time to be alive in the history of this country.
 
2012-06-19 03:04:32 PM  

manimal2878: The NRA is, at this point, a propaganda machined for the republican party.


This has been said many times in the past, and every time someone points out that they endorse Democrats also, even at the national level and sometimes to the chagrin of the Republicans, the answer is always a sputtering "but, but, but...."

They only care about one single issue: Guns.

It's true that individual members might care about other things, but as an organization the only criteria they use on deciding who to endorse and who to campaign against is how they stand on gun rights issues, and Barack Obama has a history of being on the exact opposite of the spectrum from them.
 
2012-06-19 03:04:37 PM  

umad: HotWingConspiracy: umad: Yes, it was Obama that did all that. It absolutely wasn't the Republicans slipping something into an unrelated bill that he wanted passed.

But he's responsible for Guantanamo still being open, right?

Your strawman certainly disproves my point. You win.


Yes it does. Thanks.
 
2012-06-19 03:04:56 PM  
President Obama has inarguably been better for gun rights then any President in the last 30 years.


/I can now carry my .45 on my hip around Roosevelt National Forest
 
2012-06-19 03:05:11 PM  

detritus: Clearly, it's revolution time because hollow point bullets are being purchased by the DHS in record numbers

Enough for every man, woman and child.


They've been expecting, and maybe even hoping, for there to be an uprising for years now, so they can finally bring the hammer down.
 
2012-06-19 03:05:55 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: There is a local Gun & Pawn shop that's been running ads on the radio as to how gun sales rose last year at election time and how it's happening again. And how we need to 'Send a message about how serious Americans are about their 2nd amendment rights'
Dude is a total nut.

/his tag line is 'Faith, Family, Firearms. It's the American way'
//Living in GA, the majority probably agree with him.


In '08 a gun store in Springfield, IL was airing radio ads extolling people to- and this is not paraphrased- EXERCISE YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

So it's not just the Deep South. I haven't heard any of those ads this year. Yet.
 
2012-06-19 03:06:17 PM  

Rapmaster2000: The important question is, how can I make money from this?


Several years back, before the Obama campaign even began, I bought a real nice AR-15 package from a gun nut a friend of mine knew. He was selling it so he could do some home renovations and I bet he regrets it now. With it I got 10 30-round magazines, and hundreds of rounds of FMJ that I can't shoot at the local range (have to use hollow point or soft tips). I've since added a quad rail and a pistol grip. If Obama were to put in place another gun control act like we had back in the 90's, I could make a killing off what I got.

If you think Obama might actually put in some restrictions, buy high capacity magazines. Stock up now, because the last time there were restrictions on those they could still be sold, but new manufacturing was restricted, so they'll go way up in value.
 
2012-06-19 03:06:20 PM  
I am severely dissappointed in all you Farkers.
67 channels and nuttin on

Diebold Election Systems

/new and improved: Premier Election Systems
//"only the names have been changed to protect" the corruption
///there are eight million stories in the election fraud
////N++++ C+++
 
2012-06-19 03:06:24 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?


Try:
BulkAmmo.com
CheaperThanDirt.com

//yes Virginia you can ship ammo by fedex or ups.
 
2012-06-19 03:06:27 PM  
 
2012-06-19 03:07:05 PM  

detritus: Clearly, it's revolution time because hollow point bullets are being purchased by the DHS in record numbers

Enough for every man, woman and child.


FTFL: The order may seem unusually high, but gun experts I talked to said it is not necessarily unusual and simply reflects a long-running practice by DHS and law enforcement agencies...

ZOMG!

I've heard this story twice. Once from Glenn Beck, and again from...uh...Glenn Beck. So I guess that's a kind of corroboration. And I'm sure he's telling the whole story too. Because he's got ethics or something. Goldline!
 
2012-06-19 03:07:31 PM  

Welfare Xmas: //gardening isn't that hard


This comment indicates that either you've never done it or you didn't pay any attention while you were doing it. Maintaining a garden without the larger-scale support network provided by modern chemistry and industry is not only a full-time job, it's a full-time job that requires a lot of luck if you don't want to starve. Not really a good end-of-the-world plan unless you've already got your own off-the-grid operation running. That means no water pumped from elsewhere, no fertilizer, your own non-electrical storage, etc.

Short of that, your seeds are gonna serve you best made into oatmeal, you'll at least get a couple meals out of that.
 
2012-06-19 03:09:01 PM  
What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!
 
2012-06-19 03:09:14 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Short of that, your seeds are gonna serve you best made into oatmeal, you'll at least get a couple meals out of that.


Thanks Jimmy, BTW don't expect an invite for dinner.
 
2012-06-19 03:09:56 PM  

justinsmith354: These fools are stockpiling ammo also


This is why we can't have good bullets.

Amazed am I that sales of reloading gear is not all that hot.
 
2012-06-19 03:10:42 PM  
DAMMITSOMUCH

As a recreational non-fear-driven shooter this pisses me off. The "Fartbongo is going to help the UN take out guns" crowd is making my hobby more expensive.

Not to mention making it easier for the ZOMBIES.
 
2012-06-19 03:10:54 PM  

oldfarthenry: What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!


Oh, we use it up real regular.

/practice, practice, and then go practice
 
2012-06-19 03:10:55 PM  

oldfarthenry: What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!


We shot it all, 'cause shootin' is fun.

No, seriously, it really is.
 
2012-06-19 03:12:04 PM  
The NRA must be shiating themselves then about Mitt Romney signing in massive gun control laws then. After all he already dismissed them once right before a speech and signed sweeping laws controlling the possession of assault rifle like weapons and handguns.

Add to that his strong vocal support of the Brady law, and cheered every ant-igun ownership legislation that went through during his Governorship.

What do you mean the NRA haven't said a word on it? The next thing you be telling me they are partisan hacks who love to spread paranoia as a way to make a quick buck.

So I guess the NRA are just angry about being able to conceal carry in Federal parks. It is the only thing left to explain it. The NRA must be pro gun control.
 
2012-06-19 03:12:35 PM  

Quasar: I absolutely love the NRA's logic. Obama is going to take away your guns. He hasn't done anything of the sort yet, and in fact has loosened some gun regulations, but he'll take them away - that's the plan. It's masterful. He's lulling you into a false sense of security because it will be that much sweeter to tear off the second amendment from the constitution itself and wipe his butt with it in front of you. He's just waiting for the right time to do it.

The right time being, of course, only after an incredibly difficult not remotely guaranteed re-election. Masterful.


That is what baffles me most.

As a member of a gun club I am required to be an NRA member. The crazy shiat they say (and people believe) is staggering. When I say "Wait a minute, his entire cunning plan was based on his confidence that he would be re-elected?" They just sort of change the subject.

Life has become surreal around NRA tards.
 
2012-06-19 03:12:36 PM  
I buy a box or two of .40 and .45 a month. It's about 30 miles to the closest sporting goods store with good ammo at a decent price. I also send a box or two of each downrange every month but I also like keep a few extra boxes on hand.
 
2012-06-19 03:13:18 PM  
I for one salute those ammo and gun buyers for donating their money to restoring wildlife populations and habitat.
As well as the money needed to study animals.

Some of which we can then shoot and eat. Or not eat....whatever.

Anyways.... buy more bullets, I need to 'conserve' more animals. Right into my freezer.
 
2012-06-19 03:13:35 PM  

KeithLM: Rapmaster2000: The important question is, how can I make money from this?

Several years back, before the Obama campaign even began, I bought a real nice AR-15 package from a gun nut a friend of mine knew. He was selling it so he could do some home renovations and I bet he regrets it now. With it I got 10 30-round magazines, and hundreds of rounds of FMJ that I can't shoot at the local range (have to use hollow point or soft tips). I've since added a quad rail and a pistol grip. If Obama were to put in place another gun control act like we had back in the 90's, I could make a killing off what I got.

If you think Obama might actually put in some restrictions, buy high capacity magazines. Stock up now, because the last time there were restrictions on those they could still be sold, but new manufacturing was restricted, so they'll go way up in value.


I think the problem with that strategy is that I'm too late. If everyone in the market for high capacity magazines thinks they are going to be banned, and therefore rise in value, then the price I could charge is probably about as high as it's going to get. If Romney wins then the bottom drops out of the market. Too much downside and not enough upside. The time to buy was probably the autumn of '07 though up through spring '08 probably would have been good. Sounds like you made out well on your particular transaction.
 
2012-06-19 03:14:08 PM  

dittybopper: oldfarthenry: What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!

We shot it all, 'cause shootin' is fun.

No, seriously, it really is.


I must admit - those compression-triggered bombs that explode when shot look like a hoot & a half. Now if we could just convince deer to wear those as hats...
 
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