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(WCPO Cincinnati)   Cincinnati police become the PC police & charge man for saying "crippled". That's completely retarded   (wcpo.com) divider line 89
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2012-06-19 11:41:40 AM  
JackieRabbit:

Calling someone crippled. How rude. Everyone knows that the politically correct word is gimp.

No no no. Gimp is an open-source graphics editing program (link).
 
2012-06-19 11:42:04 AM  

The One True TheDavid: the National Association for the Advancement of Jigaboos?


Excuse me, that's Djigabu.
 
2012-06-19 11:49:24 AM  
Wasilla Hillbilly:

What about the "crippling" "suffering from" crime rate? Or the unsolved murders that have "crippled" "afflicted with" the cold case dept? And what "crippling" "mobility challenged" effect will this have on the PR dept for the police now that this has happened? Oh man... this has given me a crippling "Lindsey Lohan" headache....

Hey! Leave Lindsay alone! And spell her name right, please.

Seriously, if she weren't a famous celebrity she'd be just another chick, around here anyway. In what US metro area does having a slight drug problem and an occasional lapse in judgment make one unique among mid-20s women?
 
2012-06-19 12:05:04 PM  
Hey Cincinatti, when did you up and move to the Northeast coast? I know you guys elected Jerry Springer as Mayor at one time, but this is more like having Nurse Bloomberg as mayor.
 
2012-06-19 12:12:28 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: A man says he was charged with disorderly conduct after using the word "crippled"

We have way too many cops in this nation.


And cinci just took cops out of dare programs and put them on the street. They had a huge gang bust in Walnut Hills last year, and the two crack houses across the street from us are getting rehabbed. If our landlord notices this, rent is gonna skyrocket.
 
2012-06-19 12:14:10 PM  

garandman1a: Hey Cincinatti


This makes your comment completely null and void.
 
2012-06-19 12:16:06 PM  
If you RTFA, you see it was because he was harrasing people, not because he used the word "crippled"
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-19 12:22:04 PM  
A newspaper story last year discussed the effect of hate crimes laws. A police chief* said criminals were learning not to shout insults at victims because naughty words elevated routine robbery or assault to a more serious hate crime.

* New Bedford, Mass., I think
 
2012-06-19 12:34:27 PM  
FTFA, "We don't allow anyone to conduct marketing at our events without prior authorization or take video of our guests for commercial purposes without their approval," chamber spokesman Chris Kemper said.

nuff said
 
2012-06-19 12:43:24 PM  

Crewmannumber6: I live in the town where all the city cops (and firemen) live. It's frickin Copland here. It'll be interesting getting some feedback on this.


between your handle and that sentence something tells me you are way more active than just living in the town where police & firetrucks live. perhaps you yourself are a firetruck? sleep well knowing everyone loves you, and they will always stop what they are doing to watch you go down the road. because you're awesome.

/yes, i love firetrucks
//love teh firemen too
 
2012-06-19 12:57:53 PM  

acad1228: I'm crippled. I hate the terms "handicapped" and "disabled". I'm still able, I just can't walk.


Yup, but it was funny when in a business meeting with twenty or so other suits, someone said, "That is the kind of logic that crippled our systems." Then, awkward silence and sideways glances in my direction to which I responded, "Intolerable! I would stomp out of here if only ..." The resulting laughter was just a little too loud. So much for my standup career.
 
2012-06-19 01:04:29 PM  

KrispyKritter: Crewmannumber6: I live in the town where all the city cops (and firemen) live. It's frickin Copland here. It'll be interesting getting some feedback on this.

between your handle and that sentence something tells me you are way more active than just living in the town where police & firetrucks live. perhaps you yourself are a firetruck? sleep well knowing everyone loves you, and they will always stop what they are doing to watch you go down the road. because you're awesome.

/yes, i love firetrucks
//love teh firemen too


That confuses me, probably because I am not, nor have I ever been, a firetruck.
 
2012-06-19 01:14:36 PM  
Cops claim he was busted for being disruptive:

Swearing, running into people, and video tapping without permission. Also he was in violation of soliciting in a place where you can't.

So we'll see who can bring what evidence to court.
 
2012-06-19 01:18:01 PM  
So the guy was going up to people uninvited to try to sell a comedian's act during a third party's organized event.
I really don't care if the guy was selling viagra, hot women in my area that want to meet me, or a comedian's act, it is still spam. I really doubt that PC has anything to do with it other than a baseless defense, which has the added bonus of spamming even more people about the comedian's act.
 
2012-06-19 01:21:09 PM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu
I don't like "crippled." I prefer "go-tards."

"Cincinnati Bengals"
link
 
2012-06-19 02:12:43 PM  
That's totally lame.
 
2012-06-19 02:12:46 PM  
I know the police can't be expected to know every law, but you'd think the could at least read the first one.
 
2012-06-19 02:15:51 PM  
Damned, being crippled would suck enough on its own, but crippled in Cincinnati?
 
2012-06-19 02:27:12 PM  
Forget PC bullshiat .. here's how it works:

Saying that someone is "crippled", as when referring to the accident or disease that caused it, is not considered a slur.

Calling someone "A Cripple", is a slur.

And, saying something snarky, like "Shouldn't you be collecting disability like the rest of your kind?" is a sure way to get knocked on your ass.
 
2012-06-19 03:05:38 PM  
Not sure I see the controversy here. The guy was bothering people at someone else's event. He was asked to stop. He didn't. He was asked to leave. He didn't. Then he got beligerent when cops escorted him out (but didn't arrest him) and now he says it's because he used the word "cripple" which conveniently generates the publicity he and the comedian so desperately want.

Kudos to the comedian for not being limited or defined by a diability, but the rules apply to everyone.

Seems to me that this story has almost nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
 
2012-06-19 03:08:53 PM  

ZAZ: A newspaper story last year discussed the effect of hate crimes laws. A police chief* said criminals were learning not to shout insults at victims because naughty words elevated routine robbery or assault to a more serious hate crime.

* New Bedford, Mass., I think


WHO ARE YOU CALLING A COOTIE CATCHER, YOU LINT LICKER??

/masshole
 
2012-06-19 03:20:00 PM  
Loreweaver:


And, saying something snarky, like "Shouldn't you be collecting disability like the rest of your kind?" is a sure way to get knocked on your ass.


But I am collecting disability, thank you very much. And knocking anybody on their ass is too much like work, and might get me locked up in prison instead of in a nice mental ward where I'd rather be sometimes but ain't gonna get since "deinstitutionalization" made so many of my kind homeless derelicts. (One good thing about mental institutions is I can always find someone there who'll talk to me, unlike out here among so many well-meaning nice sane people.)

I can, however, sincerely thank the taxpayers for supporting my wacky ass. Taxpayers who, because the rich get off too damn easy in this country, are paying more than their share -- a fact I keep trying to get my fellow Americans to agree to change.
 
2012-06-19 03:39:08 PM  

billxou: Not sure I see the controversy here. The guy was bothering people at someone else's event. He was asked to stop. He didn't. He was asked to leave. He didn't. Then he got beligerent when cops escorted him out (but didn't arrest him) and now he says it's because he used the word "cripple" which conveniently generates the publicity he and the comedian so desperately want.

Kudos to the comedian for not being limited or defined by a diability, but the rules apply to everyone.

Seems to me that this story has almost nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.


It seems the funny crippled girl and her companion were filming that day, here is a link to her website and the page that has the footage.

Link

Link
 
2012-06-19 03:51:53 PM  
The One True TheDavid 2012-06-19 11:35:11 AM

palelizard:

Girion47: Then they went to beat a black man.

Please. Let's be accurate. Then they went to beat a colored man.

In Cincinnati? Nah. That's not really mean, just outdated, as the name NAACP shows; when my grandfather referred to someone as "colored" he was using the polite term current when he was growing up. But can you imagine a civil rights organization calling itself something like "the National Association for the Advancement of Jigaboos?" That's what I go by in judging whether something's meant to be offensive.

I have no idea what the Cincinnati police call a person of African descent. I can say that I understand that up there the relations between the races are troubled. E.g., a couple years ago, while walking from the Greyhound station to the Amtrak one, I noticed that a white man walking through a black neighborhood on a Sunday afternoon was considered very unusual, despite it being the most direct route and only about a mile. But it wasn't till I'd already walked into a local carryout and asked for a fish sandwich that I understood that such things just don't happen there: they were polite and the food was delicious, but they seemed so shocked I might as well have had two heads. And sitting on a bench outside the place to eat while it was still hot made me a curiosity: people would slow down to look or even drive around the block again to watch an ordinary-looking white guy use his best "church picnic" manners.

That told me I would not like to live in Cincinnati. Most cities in this part of the country have "a race problem," but that was something I hadn't experienced since the mid-70s in Baltimore. And based on that and on what I've read in the papers over the years I doubt the Cincinnati police will ever be paragons of inter-ethnic sensitivity.


We weren't amazed because you were white. We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people. That's rare around these parts.

I hope you enjoyed Alabama's.
 
2012-06-19 04:13:37 PM  
Sounds like the guy was being a arsehole in addition to calling the cripple person a cripple.
 
2012-06-19 04:39:13 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Loreweaver:


And, saying something snarky, like "Shouldn't you be collecting disability like the rest of your kind?" is a sure way to get knocked on your ass.

But I am collecting disability, thank you very much. And knocking anybody on their ass is too much like work, and might get me locked up in prison instead of in a nice mental ward where I'd rather be sometimes but ain't gonna get since "deinstitutionalization" made so many of my kind homeless derelicts. (One good thing about mental institutions is I can always find someone there who'll talk to me, unlike out here among so many well-meaning nice sane people.)

I can, however, sincerely thank the taxpayers for supporting my wacky ass. Taxpayers who, because the rich get off too damn easy in this country, are paying more than their share -- a fact I keep trying to get my fellow Americans to agree to change.


NotSureIfSerious...

But, in either case, a coworker once said the above phrase to me, out of spite. He could not fathom how I was able to complete my work faster than him, and how I was earning more than him, despite him having seniority. He honestly believed I was getting special treatment because of my disability.

One swift uppercut later, he learned why I was able to complete more work than him. I was faster and stronger than his candy ass, even with my disability. When you are forced to perform two-handed tasks all your life with only one good arm, that good arm becomes extremely strong and nimble.
 
2012-06-19 04:48:24 PM  
Hermione_Granger:

We weren't amazed because you were white. We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people.

For all these things I can credit my parents. Including picking the few bones out with my fingers instead of spitting all over the place.

But what's to be afraid of? Nobody even pointed & giggled, though I clearly did stand out.


That's rare around these parts.

Like I said, that city would not be the first place in Oho I'd choose to live. And that's why.

Not that I'm perfect, I still have a few rough edges I'm not proud of that come from growing up in Baltimore in the 1970s -- court-ordered desegregation, busing, the fact that it wasn't safe for a "non-white" person to be in my grandparents' neighborhood at all let alone at night, etc. But my father taught me better in word and deed, such as moving us to an integrated neighborhood and joining the neighborhood Methodist church which was itself not racially polarized. And that's what I'm used to and feel comfortable with.

Are there no low-key "people-are-people" integrated neighborhoods in Cincinnati? Hell, even here in Kentucky -- at least in Louisville where I moved to be with a woman I met in the Internet and in Lexington where we moved when she got hired down here -- the cities are nowhere near as segregated as Baltimore when I was a kid, and black-white marriages and biracial kids are getting pretty common. (One phrase I recall from my childhood is "Would you want your daughter or sister marrying one?") Is the whole of Cincy stuck on a time warp or what?


I hope you enjoyed Alabama's.

That's what the place was called? It's right next to a public library branch and what drew me was on the sign it said "fried whiting." Here in Lexington I gather "jack salmon" is the same thing, but back home in Baltimore we call it "lake trout."
Damn good fish too. Whatever you call the restaurant, if I'm ever near there again I'll order a second to eat on the train.
 
2012-06-19 04:48:55 PM  

Hermione_Granger: We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people


thatsracist.gif

Sort of reminds me of those comments about Obama awhile back.
 
2012-06-19 04:50:39 PM  
Loreweaver:

When you are forced to perform two-handed tasks all your life with only one good arm, that good arm becomes extremely strong and nimble.

I wish that were true of my broken brain.
 
2012-06-19 04:59:53 PM  
Silly Jesus [TotalFark] 2012-06-19 04:48:55 PM

Hermione_Granger: We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people

thatsracist.gif

Sort of reminds me of those comments about Obama awhile back.


I'm going to chalk that up to you being a white guy who has no idea what it's like for a black woman to be in the company of white people who display astonishing ignorance, bigotry and just plain ass-hattery all day long.

Or you really could just stfu already since you obviously have no idea wtf you're talking about.
 
2012-06-19 05:06:14 PM  

Silly Jesus: Hermione_Granger:

We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people

Sort of reminds me of those comments about Obama awhile back.


Unfortunately I see her point: generally speaking, it's a lot harder for white people to not be damn fools concerning our darker brethren than it is for a middle-class well-educated (half-) black lawyer to be "well-spoken and articulate." All kinds of people can be "articulate" if they try hard enough, but some people just can't learn that "different" doesn't have to be a big deal.

Face it, for the past 400 years this country has been set up to benefit white people, especially but not necessarily WASPs, more than anybody else. And that's been intentional: we can simply forget to make our buildings "handicapped-accessible" because we don't realize or recall that some things are hard for people who aren't formed like us, but slavery, Jim Crow and the Cincinnati police department can hardly be attributed to innocent oversight.
 
2012-06-19 05:31:50 PM  

The One True TheDavid: ...something like "the National Association for the Advancement of Jigaboos?"


I hate you for making me laugh at that.

/Does this mean I'm racist?
//But some of my best friends are black.
 
2012-06-19 06:01:09 PM  

soupgoblin: billxou: Not sure I see the controversy here. The guy was bothering people at someone else's event. He was asked to stop. He didn't. He was asked to leave. He didn't. Then he got beligerent when cops escorted him out (but didn't arrest him) and now he says it's because he used the word "cripple" which conveniently generates the publicity he and the comedian so desperately want.

Kudos to the comedian for not being limited or defined by a diability, but the rules apply to everyone.

Seems to me that this story has almost nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.

It seems the funny crippled girl and her companion were filming that day, here is a link to her website and the page that has the footage.

Link

Link


The video actually supports the event planner's contention that they were soliciting people and filming at an event without permission. The first few seconds of the video clearly shows an event planner asking them to stop.

I'd have a problem with the police action if this were on a random sidewalk or even in the public park on a random afternoon, but it wasn't. This was done during a well publicized third party event produced by the Chamber of Commerce. I actually don't even have a problem with the guerilla marketing at the event... but the event planner has every right to ask you to stop and/or to leave.
 
2012-06-19 07:28:54 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Damned, being crippled would suck enough on its own, but crippled in Cincinnati?


It's better than being caught between the moon and New York City
 
2012-06-19 07:55:37 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: The One True TheDavid: ...something like "the National Association for the Advancement of Jigaboos?"

I hate you for making me laugh at that.

/Does this mean I'm racist?
//But some of my best friends are black jigaboos.


FTFY :)
 
2012-06-20 12:02:44 AM  

Hermione_Granger: Silly Jesus [TotalFark] 2012-06-19 04:48:55 PM

Hermione_Granger: We were amazed because you were white, polite and unafraid of black people

thatsracist.gif

Sort of reminds me of those comments about Obama awhile back.

I'm going to chalk that up to you being a white guy who has no idea what it's like for a black woman to be in the company of white people who display astonishing ignorance, bigotry and just plain ass-hattery all day long.

Or you really could just stfu already since you obviously have no idea wtf you're talking about.


wtfamireading.jpg
 
2012-06-20 01:04:19 AM  
A spokesman for the Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber, which sponsors the weekly park parties, said Thomer was "disrupting the event and our guests."

"We don't allow anyone to conduct marketing at our events without prior authorization or take video of our guests for commercial purposes without their approval," chamber spokesman Chris Kemper said.


But I'm sure it was really because he said "crippled." Sure.

BTW, do they teach people about the inverted pyramid anymore in journalism school?
 
2012-06-20 10:36:56 AM  

Fano: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Damned, being crippled would suck enough on its own, but crippled in Cincinnati?

It's better than being caught between the moon and New York City


I know it's crazy, but it's true...
 
2012-06-20 04:28:19 PM  
remember it's not PC unless it causes the other person to feel depressed
 
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