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2012-06-19 01:31:14 PM  
The Republican Party, as portrayed by Stewie Griffin.

/you...can't...hurt...anyone...
//...anymore
 
2012-06-19 01:31:37 PM  

bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.


That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.
 
2012-06-19 01:32:26 PM  

ph0rk: bobbette: ph0rk: theorellior: RobocopMustang: Either you don't know what Representative Brown actually said that started this whole thing, or else you have no clue what a strawman argument is.

Let's see, apropos of nothing you went off pissing and moaning about what would happen if men did something like this, and then proceeded to thrash around wrestling with your speculation as if we cared. I'd call that a strawman.

She said:

""Finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no,'""

Yes, vagina is the technical term. She tried to make it about her vagina.

It is about her vagina. Hers and every woman's in Michigan.

What's actually offensive here is the Republicans getting all up in ladies reproductive anatomy as if they have any right to control women's bodies. Whether it's the trans-vaginal ultrasounds, attempts to limit contraception, attempts to limit emergency contraception, or legislation designed to limit the availability of abortion. Controlling women's bodies and controlling women's sexualities is the issue being fought.

She had every right to highlight the word "vagina" because for the past six months, a wave of legislation directly related to women's bodies and limiting women's sexual health care has swept state legislatures. And if you're not aware of that, you haven't even been reading Fark, apparently.

She made an inflationary comment designed to invoke an agitated response.

She got one.

I think it was the snotty, personalized tone more than the choice of term that incensed the republicans. From viewing the footage of the statement, it seems "Incensed" was exactly what she was going for. Her amendment for vasectomies was somewhat similar.

I find the fact that any legislator of any stripe can be barred from speaking in legislatory proceedings is offensive, but I do not live in Michigan.

/Not sure if anyone expected her statement coupled with the proposed amendment about banning vasectomies w ...


This is nonsense.

Also:
inflationary |inˈflā sh əˌnerē|
adjective
1 of, characterized by, or tending to cause monetary inflation.
2 Astronomy of, relating to, or involving inflation.
 
2012-06-19 01:32:33 PM  
Fine, fine, fine but first, bring on the whores!
 
2012-06-19 01:32:34 PM  
Here's the deal. Feminists are mad about the government regulating their reproductive rights and act as if it's somehow more repulsive than about 90% of the rest of what the government does. What they don't seem to realize is that the same dickheads that want to regulate their uterus are the same ones who try to regulate everything.

Really?
The same people who want to ban guns want to regulate businesses and legislate sex?

I'll buy that when men have the right to have a paper abortion.

I agree that the man should be able to get out of his responsibilities as a father if he's willing to pay 1/2 the cost of the abortion and sign away his visitation rights should the woman chose to have the kid. Historically though, if a man doesn't want to support the child all he has to do is deny that it is his, call her a slut, and walk away. Most the time they skip the first two steps.
 
2012-06-19 01:33:45 PM  

Virtue: bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.

That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.


Lol, no.
 
2012-06-19 01:34:51 PM  

bobbette: This is nonsense.


Whatever.

polemical, then.


She used one, they reacted to it, but not in the way she would have liked. Tough shiat.
 
2012-06-19 01:35:11 PM  

NotARocketScientist: I agree that the man should be able to get out of his responsibilities as a father if he's willing to pay 1/2 the cost of the abortion and sign away his visitation rights should the woman chose to have the kid. Historically though, if a man doesn't want to support the child all he has to do is deny that it is his, call her a slut, and walk away. Most the time they skip the first two steps.


Nope.....paper abortion = terminating all parental rights and responsibilities.....women can legally do this already (its called a real abortion, or giving the children up for adoption....or abandoning the child at a "safe haven") Until there is legal parity for men then you are looking at a violation of the equal protection clause of the US constitution.
 
2012-06-19 01:35:25 PM  

Marine1: Here's the deal. Feminists are mad about the government regulating their reproductive rights and act as if it's somehow more repulsive than about 90% of the rest of what the government does. What they don't seem to realize is that the same dickheads that want to regulate their uterus are the same ones who try to regulate everything. They're in government and they're control freaks. Regulating your body is their thing. It's what they do. They're the same ones that would have imprisoned me for five years if I hadn't signed up for the Selective Service. They think you shouldn't be able to smoke weed in the privacy of your own home. They think you shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. They're demagogues.


If the government tried to pass a law that men could not have a parasitic growth surgically removed from their stomach because of Jesus, would you be ok with that? Just because the government does all kinds of other shiat we don't like, it doesn't mean that feminists aren't allowed to be mad when a bunch of dudes try and regulate their reproductive system. Would you trust the cast of The View to regulate vasectomies?
 
2012-06-19 01:35:26 PM  

Virtue: That does not look like someone fighting sexism.....that looks like a sexist.


Golly, it's almost as if you're trying to imply that a literary device describes the tenets of actual feminism.

In her own words: In the interview she discussed the Society for Cutting Up Men: "It's hypothetical. No, hypothetical is the wrong word. It's just a literary device. There's no organization called SCUM. . . . Smith: "It's just you." Solanas: "It's not even me . . . I mean, I thought of it as a state of mind. In other words, women who think a certain way are in SCUM. Men who think a certain way are in the men's auxiliary of SCUM."

Look how ignorant you are. Don't you feel silly being indignant over the sloppy writing of a diagnosed psychopath?
 
2012-06-19 01:35:47 PM  

someonelse: Lol, no.


I see you have never taken a women's studies class.
 
2012-06-19 01:36:12 PM  

bobbette: Marine1: ...

Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.


I think he's talking about one-sided crap like this: SFU Men's Centre
 
2012-06-19 01:36:15 PM  

someonelse: Virtue: bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.

That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.

Lol, no.


The defenders of feminism would be well advised to remind people making statements like Virtue that feminism isn't a unified position or movement.

/Then, remind themselves.
 
2012-06-19 01:37:04 PM  
Of course you love vaginas. What MAN doesn't?
www.wisconsingazette.com
 
2012-06-19 01:37:10 PM  

Virtue: bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.

That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.


No, those are the feminist rants that get the press, much the same way that the dancing boy in the feather boa on the pride float is the gay person that gets the press. I am a feminist and I will tell you and anyone else that most men are not rapists and I will publicly contradict anyone who says otherwise.
 
2012-06-19 01:38:11 PM  

Deucednuisance: Golly, it's almost as if you're trying to imply that a literary device describes the tenets of actual feminism.

In her own words: In the interview she discussed the Society for Cutting Up Men: "It's hypothetical. No, hypothetical is the wrong word. It's just a literary device. There's no organization called SCUM. . . . Smith: "It's just you." Solanas: "It's not even me . . . I mean, I thought of it as a state of mind. In other words, women who think a certain way are in SCUM. Men who think a certain way are in the men's auxiliary of SCUM."

Look how ignorant you are. Don't you feel silly being indignant over the sloppy writing of a diagnosed psychopath?



Oh really?

http://www.takebackthenight.org/

On every college campus in the US ....try again.
 
2012-06-19 01:38:22 PM  
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2012-06-19 01:41:32 PM  

Some_Local_Deity: No, those are the feminist rants that get the press, much the same way that the dancing boy in the feather boa on the pride float is the gay person that gets the press. I am a feminist and I will tell you and anyone else that most men are not rapists and I will publicly contradict anyone who says otherwise.


They also get sexist laws passed like VAWA (violence against women act) which is a feminist sponcered law that makes it legally impossible for a woman to be guilty of domestic violence (See the Duluth model)

So in short it makes no difference if the feminists you are talking about are the minority.....they run the show and until such point that the entire feminist movement denies ALL their talking points I will continue to classify feminism as a hate movement.
 
2012-06-19 01:41:35 PM  

CarpeScrotum: Of course you love vaginas. What MAN doesn't?
[www.wisconsingazette.com image 385x287]


I would speculate gay men.
 
2012-06-19 01:41:57 PM  
It's too bad lame trolling is considered a virtue around here.
 
2012-06-19 01:42:52 PM  
ITT: bitter men claiming that all feminists are man-hating harpies.

Sorry, guys, I'm married to a feminist that loves men, loves sex with me, loves her children, and can cook and bake circles around most people. She'll even make the hell out of a sandwich for me. She has a very healthy relationship with every male in her family and can thrive even when working for very-conservative, male bosses.

She just happens to think that equal pay, protection for victims of sexual and domestic violence, and access to birth control and even abortions are important things for women and society in general. That b*tch!
 
2012-06-19 01:43:21 PM  

theorellior: It's too bad lame trolling is considered a virtue around here.


Was that intentionally punny or just a lucky accident?
 
2012-06-19 01:43:54 PM  

Virtue: Some_Local_Deity: No, those are the feminist rants that get the press, much the same way that the dancing boy in the feather boa on the pride float is the gay person that gets the press. I am a feminist and I will tell you and anyone else that most men are not rapists and I will publicly contradict anyone who says otherwise.

They also get sexist laws passed like VAWA (violence against women act) which is a feminist sponcered law that makes it legally impossible for a woman to be guilty of domestic violence (See the Duluth model)

So in short it makes no difference if the feminists you are talking about are the minority.....they run the show and until such point that the entire feminist movement denies ALL their talking points I will continue to classify feminism as a hate movement.


i116.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-19 01:43:56 PM  

Virtue: bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.

That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.


Any quotes to share?
 
2012-06-19 01:44:02 PM  

Virtue: Oh really?

http://www.takebackthenight.org/

On every college campus in the US ....try again.


Because no-one ever gets raped in college.

But honestly, pretty lame deflection. What does take back the night have to do with your assertion that Solanas is representative of Feminism?

For that matter, how does TBTN espouse the tenets of SCUM?

And can you slow down your spittle-flecked typing enough make your farking links work?

Have some manners.
 
2012-06-19 01:45:28 PM  

theorellior: It's too bad lame trolling is considered a virtue around here.


It's not a virtue... it's a duty.
 
2012-06-19 01:46:09 PM  
Odd, everybody I met in Michigan was a dick.
 
2012-06-19 01:46:16 PM  

theorellior: It's too bad lame trolling is considered a virtue around here.


I see what you did there (and will adjust accordingly).

Still sorry about his penis, though.
 
2012-06-19 01:46:42 PM  

factoryconnection: She just happens to think that equal pay, protection for victims of sexual and domestic violence, and access to birth control and even abortions are important things for women and society in general. That b*tch!


Lets break this down

1. She just happens to think that equal pay

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is - a-complete-myth/

Myth BUSTED!

2. victims of sexual and domestic violence

Currently under the VAWA act if she beats the crap out of you with a frying pan you will go to jail and be convicted of domestic violence (See Duluth model)

3. and even abortions are important things for women and society in general.

Does she support legislation to allow men to terminate all parental rights and responsibilities as women can now?
 
2012-06-19 01:46:45 PM  

domenad: Guys have always been the ones accused of "thinking with the small head", yet every five seconds I see some dumb quiff proud of how she's a slut or talking about her vagina or whipping her vagina out in public or inserting a baseball bat in front of a kindergarten class or some other such silly nonsense. You ladies need some more hobbies I think.


Login: domenad
Location: Clearwater, FL

That explains everything.
/I gotta take a Florida vacation sometime.
 
2012-06-19 01:47:49 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Any quotes to share?


I could post the course outline for any college campuses gender studies class.
 
2012-06-19 01:47:52 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Virtue: bobbette: Your point isn't even true: feminism today is to an incredible extent also about combating marginalization based on class, race, sexual orientation, disability, trans* gender identity, and so on, having long recognized that oppression exists in many different types of social relations. I'm not going to argue against a strawman.

That's funny every time I hear a feminist speak its about how all men are rapists.

Any quotes to share?


"All men are rapists"
- Some Feminist Broad

/I swear, this is getting too easy
 
2012-06-19 01:49:53 PM  

Virtue: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is - a-complete-myth/


dude, no it isn't. It isn't anywhere near 25%, but there remains a wage gap. Within professions (job titles), same hours worked, same age, same credentials. Go download the PSID and analyze it yourself, if you wish.

If anyone was able to make the gap entirely vanish (statistically) that would be Very Big News, and we'd all be having a jolly time in that thread.
 
2012-06-19 01:50:18 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Can your work be described as "vaginal"?


I, for one, welcome our new Vagina Overlor....Overladies.


I prefer Vaganal for people who are repressed about women's body parts.
 
2012-06-19 01:50:20 PM  

Deucednuisance: But honestly, pretty lame deflection. What does take back the night have to do with your assertion that Solanas is representative of Feminism?


Because the take back the night nutjobs base everything they do on a LIE.....the 1 in 4 women get raped.....complete and utter fabrication (study was done by feminists, paid for by feminists, and according to the study half of the women were dating their rapist) take back the night also likes to throw around the all men are rapists and Man BAD woman Superior BS.
 
2012-06-19 01:51:42 PM  
Probably as SFW as the rest of this thread, but I'm going to link in just in case: Vaginal Euphemisms
 
2012-06-19 01:51:44 PM  

Virtue: Some_Local_Deity: No, those are the feminist rants that get the press, much the same way that the dancing boy in the feather boa on the pride float is the gay person that gets the press. I am a feminist and I will tell you and anyone else that most men are not rapists and I will publicly contradict anyone who says otherwise.

They also get sexist laws passed like VAWA (violence against women act) which is a feminist sponcered law that makes it legally impossible for a woman to be guilty of domestic violence (See the Duluth model)

So in short it makes no difference if the feminists you are talking about are the minority.....they run the show and until such point that the entire feminist movement denies ALL their talking points I will continue to classify feminism as a hate movement.


So by your logic, you can lump all feminists together by a minority (man-haters) but not all men together by a minority (rapists). This doesn't make any sense.

/Insane troll logic
 
2012-06-19 01:54:11 PM  

ph0rk: If anyone was able to make the gap entirely vanish (statistically) that would be Very Big News, and we'd all be having a jolly time in that thread


It already has.....when you account for time at the job and all other factors women on average make MORE than men.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html
There is one source

Here is another.

http://warrenfarrell.org/

The second source (Warren Farrell PHD) was President of NOW (National Organization of Women)

When he showed that women were making progress and that most all of the wage gap had already been overcome (back in the 80's) he was booted from NOW and NOW went on a witch Hunt trying to destroy him personally.
 
2012-06-19 01:54:55 PM  

Virtue: Deucednuisance: But honestly, pretty lame deflection. What does take back the night have to do with your assertion that Solanas is representative of Feminism?

Because the take back the night nutjobs base everything they do on a LIE.....the 1 in 4 women get raped.....complete and utter fabrication (study was done by feminists, paid for by feminists, and according to the study half of the women were dating their rapist) take back the night also likes to throw around the all men are rapists and Man BAD woman Superior BS.


So, the US DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics is a tool of the feminist conspiracy?
 
2012-06-19 01:54:58 PM  
Don't know how people can say that this isn't getting coverage. It was first up on the Daily Show last night. If that isn't news coverage then I don't know what is.
 
2012-06-19 01:55:06 PM  

Virtue: Nope.....paper abortion = terminating all parental rights and responsibilities.....women can legally do this already (its called a real abortion, or giving the children up for adoption....or abandoning the child at a "safe haven") Until there is legal parity for men then you are looking at a violation of the equal protection clause of the US constitution.


If Roe v Wade was covered under the equal protection clause, you might have a point. However, it wasn't.

An abortion is a medical procedure. The only person who has to make a decision about a medical procedure is the person directly affected. I don't get a say if my wife gets her tubes tied, and she doesn't get a say if I get a vasectomy. Likewise, if she chose to have an abortion (again, a medical procedure), I have no legal right to stop her.

After a child is born, men and women are equal - if the father gets custody, the mother has to financially support the child. Adoption does require the father's consent IF he is married to the mother or has established paternity. Just because that's a bit more difficult since the baby doesn't come out of the man doesn't mean men aren't equal to women in a legal sense.

Here's an idea - be a man, not a whiny, biatching weasel.
 
2012-06-19 01:56:11 PM  

Virtue: rufus-t-firefly: Any quotes to share?

I could post the course outline for any college campuses gender studies class.


Then farking do it.
 
2012-06-19 01:56:47 PM  

Virtue: someonelse: Lol, no.

I see you have never taken a women's studies class.


No, you don't. And you're being daft.
 
2012-06-19 01:56:55 PM  


beforeitsnews.com

 
2012-06-19 01:57:41 PM  

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/huh huh huh


GIS for axe wound:

www.theluxuryspot.com
 
2012-06-19 01:58:16 PM  

Virtue: Here is another.

http://warrenfarrell.org/


I read his book. He's sort of a nutcase.

Basically, he was married to the then-president of NOW, then he wasn't. Then he sort of went bonkers.
 
2012-06-19 01:58:33 PM  

WhippingBoy: And yet, women in India get their heads cut off with nary a protest.

/gotta love self-entitled, over-privileged people.


Did you just call women uppity?
 
2012-06-19 01:58:38 PM  
It is as important to banish the knuckle-dragging bible-bleaters from the Republican party as it is to banish the pointy-headed Marxist elitists from the Democrat party. The country is becoming totally unable to function due to the asshole extremists and fanatics at both ends of the spectrum.

And actually, those two ends, if curved into a circle, would be right next to each other. In both cases, we're talking about people who want the government to mandate their own worldview and outlaw anything which disagrees with them. The amount of panty-knotted butthurt on display is amazing.

And I'm not advocating the rise of some sort of Milquetoast Moderates, who couldn't muster a passionate opinion to save their lives. But this shiat has GOT to stop, or else the country is simply going to collapse under the weight of the combined douchebaggery - especially when you consider just how badly the bankers have farked us all in the last five years*. We don't have time for this crap, from either side.

[Cue "good for you feeling superior to everyone" pinheads. Go away.]

*Newsflash for leftists: collectivist countries have private central banks too. The only reason China isn't quite as screwed as Europe is because they shoot their crooked banksters in the head.
 
2012-06-19 01:58:45 PM  

ph0rk: So, the US DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics is a tool of the feminist conspiracy?


They got VAWA passed .....and its clearly a "War on Men" kind of thing.
 
2012-06-19 02:00:29 PM  

SouthernFriedYankee: It is as important to banish the knuckle-dragging bible-bleaters from the Republican party as it is to banish the pointy-headed Marxist elitists from the Democrat party. The country is becoming totally unable to function due to the asshole extremists and fanatics at both ends of the spectrum.

And actually, those two ends, if curved into a circle, would be right next to each other. In both cases, we're talking about people who want the government to mandate their own worldview and outlaw anything which disagrees with them. The amount of panty-knotted butthurt on display is amazing.

And I'm not advocating the rise of some sort of Milquetoast Moderates, who couldn't muster a passionate opinion to save their lives. But this shiat has GOT to stop, or else the country is simply going to collapse under the weight of the combined douchebaggery - especially when you consider just how badly the bankers have farked us all in the last five years*. We don't have time for this crap, from either side.

[Cue "good for you feeling superior to everyone" pinheads. Go away.]

*Newsflash for leftists: collectivist countries have private central banks too. The only reason China isn't quite as screwed as Europe is because they shoot their crooked banksters in the head.


I will unequivocally agree with you.....once such things actually happen.
 
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