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2012-06-19 10:06:27 AM  
9 votes:

kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?


I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."
2012-06-19 07:46:56 AM  
4 votes:
So he wasn't amazed by the existence of touch-screen technology, he was amazed that the private sector finally had the cutting-edge technology of a 1994-era Department of Motor Vehicles testing station.

Okay.
2012-06-19 10:35:40 AM  
3 votes:

Doctor Funkenstein: I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."


It's fascinating isn't it? His actual, literal statement is that it's too hard to get free money from the government, and we should make it faster and more efficient just like the touchscreen at Wawa.Therefore Capitalism is Good.

He looked better when we thought he was just out of touch.
2012-06-19 10:32:31 AM  
3 votes:
NPR played it in context, I guess you should listen to more NPR subtard...
2012-06-19 02:34:02 PM  
2 votes:
It's amusing to me that people who are want to purge the voter rolls of anyone who's ever moved their residence are outraged at the thought of a doctor filling out a form before receiving medicare dollars.
2012-06-19 11:25:22 AM  
2 votes:

halfof33: All2morrowsparTs: You sound slightly retarded by repeating that so often and it kind of obscures your message.

You know what makes for a rock solid message? Using the word "retarded."

Good for you.


Well when the message is that you are retarded, which you are, calling you retarded seems like a pretty efficient way of getting across the fact that you are retarded.
2012-06-19 11:18:02 AM  
2 votes:
Romney attack ad on Obama no. 1:
Ad quote: Obama: "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose [scary echo]"
Actual quote: Obama was quoting an aide to Sen. McCain, not stating it as his own position.

Romney attack ad on Obama no. 2:
Ad quote: "Obama on Bain: 'This is what the campaign is going to be about.'"
Actual quote: "This is what this campaign is going to be about -- is what is a strategy for us to move this country forward in a way where everybody can succeed? And that means I've got to think about those workers in that video just as much as I'm thinking about folks who have been much more successful."
[Remarks by the President at NATO Press Conference]

Now normally you could peg that as an ad hominem tu quoque fallacy -- two wrongs don't make a right, attacking a man back doesn't make it morally right -- but thankfully, Romney's given you
explicit permission to do this exact thing to him in the interests of justice:
Saying the ad "obviously got underneath (the Democrats') skin," the former Massachusetts governor maintained his team edited the ad intentionally to show "what's sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander."

"This ad points out, 'Guess what: It's now your turn.' The same lines used on John McCain are going to be used on you, which is that this economy is going to be your albatross," Romney said, referring to Obama.


Well, guess what: It's now your turn. The same editing used on Barack Obama is going to be used on you.

There you go, Romney. That's the world you wanted. Thanks for explicit, in-context permission to justify giving it to you.
2012-06-19 11:09:41 AM  
2 votes:
He is out of touch, though, if he thinks touch screens are actually a sign of efficiency. They've had touch screen ticket machines on the railroad and subway for more than half my life by now and anyone in a rush knows that if there's an open window you'll get that ticket way quicker from a living breathing human being rather than waiting behind Touristy McMumu or GuyWhoHasn'tRiddenTheSubwayInYearsButHisCarBrokeDown on the touch screen line.

Oh wait, I forgot, for Romney employing fewer people == efficiency, not time or convenience.
2012-06-19 10:40:15 AM  
2 votes:
And tommorrow Romney will complain about government waste and asking why not enough effort goes into cracking down on fraud, pledging to balance the budget by eliminating waste.
2012-06-19 10:20:48 AM  
2 votes:

cman: Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?


It's tough to find the real news when one of the candidates never actually takes a position on anything.
2012-06-19 10:18:06 AM  
2 votes:
Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?
2012-06-19 09:20:14 AM  
2 votes:
Mitt was contrasting the ridiculous over-regulation of the public sector, with the efficiency of the private sector, and used the electronic ordering system at WAWAs as an example

Accepting this for a moment, I say it's still a dumb and simplistic analogy. But dumb and simplistic is consistent with his positions on other issues. And god knows the man lacks consistency.
2012-06-19 07:56:18 AM  
2 votes:
I see someone is going around and collecting all the shiatty Republican blogs and reporting the days talking point.
2012-06-19 02:25:00 PM  
1 votes:

Job Creator: Once again, you ignore the link showing the proper form


So much this. The entire thing is six pages, most of which are instructions.

From the instructions:
2.
Change of Information If changing information,check box #2, write your NPI in the space provided, and provide the add/replace information within the appropriate section. If you are adding information, please check the 'Add Information' box and fill out the appropriate section(s) with the information you are adding. If you are replacing information, please check the 'Replace Information' box and fill out the appropriate section(s) with the replaced information. See the instructions in Section 4, then sign and date the certification statement in Section 4A or 4B. All changes must be reported to the NPI Enumerator within 30 days of the change. It is not necessary to complete sections that are not being changed; however, please ensure that your NPI is legible and correct. Complete Section 5 so that we may contact you in the event of problems processing this form. Please note that some changes, such as a change to a health care provider's date of birth, require a photocopy


If the guy was just updating his address, all he had to do was check a box and write his address on the form. That's it. If he actually filled out 33 pages then he was doing something entirely different. So, he either didn't tell Mitt the whole story or the Romneybot made it up.
2012-06-19 01:58:13 PM  
1 votes:

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.


Huh. I'm no Medicare lawyer, but it looks like that gets you in the system, while this (PDF warning) is the form to update your address. It's 6 pages long, and a full half of those pages are taken up by the Privacy Policy.

If you're like me and like to do things online, you can view and update your info at the agency's online portal. This site does not have its own touch-screen UI, however, so clearly the sandwich machine should already be president.
2012-06-19 01:42:34 PM  
1 votes:

jules_siegel: jim_paul: The government is incredibly wasteful and inefficient

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I'd love to see one of these for a ridiculously overpaid Blackwater operator versus an enlisted U.S. Army soldier doing the same job.
2012-06-19 11:58:28 AM  
1 votes:

BeesNuts: But I read, seriously read, the HotAir article, the Twitchy "article", and the Instapundit article and I still don't know what the FARK Romney actually said, and I don't understand why I should or shouldn't care.


See, the mainstream liebral msm news media elites released a story saying that Romney was stunned by touchscreens at convenience stores.

In reality, Romney was stunned by touchetone screens at convenience stores because they are much more convenient than 33 pages of paperwork.

That's a HUGE difference.
2012-06-19 11:32:35 AM  
1 votes:

whitman00: From the link:
"No matter how many times these sorts of shenanigans boomerang back and embarrass them, they still think they can twist the public's perceptions the way they wish."

I almost fell on the floor when I figured out he was talking about liberals. The cognitive dissonance of these guys is truly a thing to behold.


look at the conservatives in the thread suddenly concerned about accuracy in reporting, great stuff all around.
2012-06-19 11:31:07 AM  
1 votes:

Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.


You're under-selling it. Wawa is probably the source of lunch for most working people in a lot of its region. I've had the "honor" of working shifts at two of the three busiest stores in the chain, which easily raked in $1M per day in the summer.
2012-06-19 11:25:08 AM  
1 votes:

apoptotic: It may be that the 33 pages was a cover page stating that the existing 32 page contract had been amended to update the address, and the entire contract re-filed with the old address struck out and replaced on the appropriate page. I've had contracts that were set up that way. It was done because someone misplacing or misfiling a whole new copy of the contract was less likely than them losing a one page form.


That makes much more sense, but doesn't sound as good politically. Of course, judging by this outrage here, Romney doesn't lie anyway, just "The Left", so you're still probably wrong, and Saint Mitt is, of course, Right.
2012-06-19 11:18:40 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is.

Do we have any numbers on just how inefficient government sandwich ordering systems are?


yeah curious how well WaWa's would do trying rural electrification or a national highway system.
2012-06-19 11:14:45 AM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: Regardless, it's not inefficient because Wawas makes sandwiches quickly.

No one said it was. He said it was more efficient because it has to be.


I'm not really sure what your gripe is with me but Romney pretty much said just that. He used Wawas ability to make a sandwich directly as an example of private sector efficiency and compared it, directly, to the difficulties some doctor had in securing federal aid as an example of federal government inefficiency. He actually used the ease of getting a sandwich from a business as an example of private sector excellence and directly compared it to the steps taken to secure federal aid for medical services rendered as an example of federal government inefficiency. It's an insanely stupid comparison. If that upsets you then your beef is with Romney, not me.
2012-06-19 11:11:26 AM  
1 votes:
t2.gstatic.com

Remember when Hillary couldn't figure out the coffee machine?
2012-06-19 11:06:46 AM  
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 272x320]


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2012-06-19 11:05:04 AM  
1 votes:

Corvus: Bloody William: Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.

Let's be fair, the clip was edited so the context of his statement was completely cut out. Whether the statement itself had any value or was stupid is another thing entirely.

Most likely it was edit for brevity, there were multiple contexts and one was edited out. That happens every time if you don't play the entire speech.


Dude, usually I'm on your side for things like this, but this is actually a case where the main reason Romney said these things were edited out. It was a bad job from MSNBC. I'll be the first to rant angrily when conservatives cry about context when editing is just done for brevity, but that wasn't the case here. His words were cut to give the wrong impression and not show why he said those things.
2012-06-19 11:03:26 AM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's.


I think you sound like an idiot no matter how you pronounce it.
2012-06-19 11:03:04 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, look. Another pseudo-journalistic right-wing talking point generator hidden behind the "some guy" moniker. And some d-bag greenlit it. How new and amazing.
2012-06-19 11:01:04 AM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.

So is he wrong that a 33 page change of address form and people getting paid to help that don't is inefficient? I guess the idea that the public sector excels at wasting time and money is pure fantasy.


I'm not sure. We don't really know much about what he was talking about. If that doctor was asking for reimbursement for services performed for a lot of people then, yeah, 33 pages to verify that there were actually patients and the nature of the services provided might be in order. Otherwise, you run the risk of some yokel getting federal money for stuff that he didn't do because the government isn't checking. Regardless, it's not inefficient because Wawas makes sandwiches quickly.
2012-06-19 10:55:21 AM  
1 votes:

halfof33: MsNBC lied to you? Attack 16.5.


The full story makes Romney look even worse. The editing made him look better.

I think you might be lost. Are you lost?
2012-06-19 10:55:18 AM  
1 votes:
Thank God we're finally dealing with the hard hitting issues like touch screens and golf, that really matter to every day quality of life in this country.

It just makes me laugh. Somewhere, someone on both the Obama and Romney campaigns are strategically discussing what their candidate should order for lunch, should they make a stop where ordering lunch is required. They've got a white board setup and have it broken down by entree/side/drink/condiments, carefully eliminating individual selections or combinations that might be seen as too elite/pandering/stupid/etc.

People are spending time and money to do this. And they have to do this because there are a pack of wolves outside waiting to tear into this "story" should even a morsel of controversy present itself.

God Bless America. We sure as hell need it.
2012-06-19 10:53:30 AM  
1 votes:
Also holy fark, another PJ Media link? Submitter, put on some farking REAL pants and get a job like outside your house. I don't think blogging is really working for you.
2012-06-19 10:48:54 AM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: to get his totally not welfare cash

Yeah, fark those poor people that rely on the government for assistance!

That IS your point, isn't it? It's welfare for the poor people that use it. God forbid the government pay for the services they need!

Man that was some serious stupid, Dr.


Not my point. It was Romeny's. He obviously thinks there are too many obstacles in the way for people to get government assistance. Personally, I don't have a problem with the feds getting the information they need to verify that the tax dollars are getting to where they are supposed to be going. But I also think if poor people have to piss into a cup to get it, so does Dr. Address Change from MItt's sob story. But either way, it's clearly inefficient because he got a kickass hoagie from Wawas in no time at all.
2012-06-19 10:48:25 AM  
1 votes:
/looks at the link

Pajamas Media again subby? Really? You realize people can hover over the article your referring to, right? So they can figure if you're being legit or just being full of it.
2012-06-19 10:43:17 AM  
1 votes:

The Homer Tax: It's fascinating isn't it? His actual, literal statement is that it's too hard to get free money from the government, and we should make it faster and more efficient just like the touchscreen at Wawa.Therefore Capitalism is Good.


Sadly, that's exactly what he was saying. He actually had the balls to frame the steps in getting federal aid as an example of government inefficiency because it wasn't as easy as ordering a sandwich from the touchscreen at a Wawas. It's amazing. This was a totally legitimate comparison in his mind: Government is bad because these guys made my sandwich really fast. Astonishing. He was better off when we just thought he was an old dude amazed by the MTO.
2012-06-19 10:42:45 AM  
1 votes:
Um yeah... I don't know what a "WaWa" is either, but I do want to know why the party who is convinced leeches are bleeding the taxpayer dry want to make it more efficient and painless to access government cheddar.
2012-06-19 10:40:31 AM  
1 votes:
I still think Romney is here to protect us from the terrible secret of space.

PLEASE GO STAND BY THE STAIRS . . . SO I CAN PROTECT YOU
2012-06-19 10:38:51 AM  
1 votes:

Doctor Funkenstein: It's also pretty clear he has no idea what a Wawas is, which I guess I can give him a pass on. I'm not sure if they have them in Massachusetts or not. I'm pretty sure they have touchscreens, though.


They don't. It's the one thing (aside from my family and friends, of course) that I miss since moving to MA from PA a few months ago. There are extremely few convenience stores here but more mom-and-pop shops, which I like. Would be nice to have a WaWa, though, or even the inferior Sheetz instead of gas station shops featuring month-old pre-made sandwiches.
2012-06-19 10:32:29 AM  
1 votes:
Just as long as we're not talking about any actual issues
2012-06-19 10:31:19 AM  
1 votes:
That's it!

I'm voting for McCain.
2012-06-19 10:25:43 AM  
1 votes:

exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.


Oh, dude. I watched the whole video. He totally said that. It's hilarious. He makes a pointing gesture with his hand while he says it, too, just in case you didn't know what he was talking about. Judging by the few looks of the folks in the crowd, it was probably a good call on his part to clarify to them. It's also pretty clear he has no idea what a Wawas is, which I guess I can give him a pass on. I'm not sure if they have them in Massachusetts or not. I'm pretty sure they have touchscreens, though.

On a somewhat unrelated note, the Romneybot is sixty farking five years old? Holy shiat. I'm starting to actually believe that he might be a robot.
 
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