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2012-06-19 07:46:56 AM
So he wasn't amazed by the existence of touch-screen technology, he was amazed that the private sector finally had the cutting-edge technology of a 1994-era Department of Motor Vehicles testing station.

Okay.
 
2012-06-19 07:56:18 AM
I see someone is going around and collecting all the shiatty Republican blogs and reporting the days talking point.
 
2012-06-19 08:56:15 AM
So he ordered extra meat on purpose then?
 
2012-06-19 09:20:14 AM
Mitt was contrasting the ridiculous over-regulation of the public sector, with the efficiency of the private sector, and used the electronic ordering system at WAWAs as an example

Accepting this for a moment, I say it's still a dumb and simplistic analogy. But dumb and simplistic is consistent with his positions on other issues. And god knows the man lacks consistency.
 
2012-06-19 09:23:23 AM
Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?
 
2012-06-19 09:41:36 AM

kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?


because Breitbart is longer around to do the editing for them.
 
2012-06-19 10:00:42 AM

SilentStrider: because Breitbart is longer around to do the editing for them.


1.bp.blogspot.com

Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back.
 
2012-06-19 10:06:27 AM

kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?


I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."
 
2012-06-19 10:14:43 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas


haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.
 
2012-06-19 10:18:06 AM
Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?
 
2012-06-19 10:20:48 AM

cman: Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?


It's tough to find the real news when one of the candidates never actually takes a position on anything.
 
2012-06-19 10:25:43 AM

exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.


Oh, dude. I watched the whole video. He totally said that. It's hilarious. He makes a pointing gesture with his hand while he says it, too, just in case you didn't know what he was talking about. Judging by the few looks of the folks in the crowd, it was probably a good call on his part to clarify to them. It's also pretty clear he has no idea what a Wawas is, which I guess I can give him a pass on. I'm not sure if they have them in Massachusetts or not. I'm pretty sure they have touchscreens, though.

On a somewhat unrelated note, the Romneybot is sixty farking five years old? Holy shiat. I'm starting to actually believe that he might be a robot.
 
2012-06-19 10:31:19 AM
That's it!

I'm voting for McCain.
 
2012-06-19 10:32:29 AM
Just as long as we're not talking about any actual issues
 
2012-06-19 10:32:31 AM
NPR played it in context, I guess you should listen to more NPR subtard...
 
2012-06-19 10:33:27 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."


I know, right? If a private vendor wants reimbursement from the government from services rendered, he should be able to just yell out into the air "Give me money, govmint!" and one of the governments traveling money fairies will rush into the store to give it to him.

It's bullshiat that the governemnt isn't just giving out money to job creators when they ask for it.
 
2012-06-19 10:33:42 AM
I thought Pajamas Media had their own icon on this site? What's with all the links to them hiding behind "Some Guy" these days?
 
2012-06-19 10:35:39 AM
This is a link to a shiatty blog with a link to the real story at a shiatty Hot Air blog with a link to the REAL real story at Sooper Mexican, which I've never heard of but can only assume is a shiatty blog.

Fantastic.
 
2012-06-19 10:35:40 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."


It's fascinating isn't it? His actual, literal statement is that it's too hard to get free money from the government, and we should make it faster and more efficient just like the touchscreen at Wawa.Therefore Capitalism is Good.

He looked better when we thought he was just out of touch.
 
2012-06-19 10:36:47 AM

sprawl15: This is a link to a shiatty blog with a link to the real story at a shiatty Hot Air blog with a link to the REAL real story at Sooper Mexican, which I've never heard of but can only assume is a shiatty blog.

Fantastic.


I'm sure a site named "Sooper Mexican" is a legit and trustworthy news source.
 
2012-06-19 10:38:51 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: It's also pretty clear he has no idea what a Wawas is, which I guess I can give him a pass on. I'm not sure if they have them in Massachusetts or not. I'm pretty sure they have touchscreens, though.


They don't. It's the one thing (aside from my family and friends, of course) that I miss since moving to MA from PA a few months ago. There are extremely few convenience stores here but more mom-and-pop shops, which I like. Would be nice to have a WaWa, though, or even the inferior Sheetz instead of gas station shops featuring month-old pre-made sandwiches.
 
2012-06-19 10:39:19 AM
I can think of nothing more important.
 
2012-06-19 10:39:33 AM

exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.


In fairness, a cyborg wouldn't ever need to use a physical interface to order his animal-based protein unit that the human poors seem to enjoy so much.
 
2012-06-19 10:40:15 AM
And tommorrow Romney will complain about government waste and asking why not enough effort goes into cracking down on fraud, pledging to balance the budget by eliminating waste.
 
2012-06-19 10:40:26 AM
Wow the spin on that site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.
 
2012-06-19 10:40:31 AM
I still think Romney is here to protect us from the terrible secret of space.

PLEASE GO STAND BY THE STAIRS . . . SO I CAN PROTECT YOU
 
2012-06-19 10:41:11 AM

The Homer Tax: He looked better when we thought he was just out of touch.


Hey, don't hate on him for his taste in horse-dance music.

Link

DressageDaily.com revealed in August 2010 Romney also picked music from the soundtrack of the film "The Mission" for Rafalca's freestyle routine at the National Dressage championships.
 
2012-06-19 10:42:03 AM
33 page change of address form? Really? I have never filled out more than a single page.

Mow. I'm not sure how this equates to ordering a sandwich though. Sounds like he's comparing apples and Studebakers.
 
2012-06-19 10:42:13 AM

The Homer Tax: I thought Pajamas Media had their own icon on this site? What's with all the links to them hiding behind "Some Guy" these days?


Yeah, that was my question, too.
 
2012-06-19 10:42:19 AM
I get my news in mashup form (pops).
 
2012-06-19 10:42:45 AM
Um yeah... I don't know what a "WaWa" is either, but I do want to know why the party who is convinced leeches are bleeding the taxpayer dry want to make it more efficient and painless to access government cheddar.
 
2012-06-19 10:43:11 AM

Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on this site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.


Fixed that for you.

MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.
 
2012-06-19 10:43:17 AM

The Homer Tax: It's fascinating isn't it? His actual, literal statement is that it's too hard to get free money from the government, and we should make it faster and more efficient just like the touchscreen at Wawa.Therefore Capitalism is Good.


Sadly, that's exactly what he was saying. He actually had the balls to frame the steps in getting federal aid as an example of government inefficiency because it wasn't as easy as ordering a sandwich from the touchscreen at a Wawas. It's amazing. This was a totally legitimate comparison in his mind: Government is bad because these guys made my sandwich really fast. Astonishing. He was better off when we just thought he was an old dude amazed by the MTO.
 
2012-06-19 10:44:12 AM

exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.


Actually, it was "touchtone keypad", which is just as golden... Like a shower.
 
2012-06-19 10:44:14 AM
We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.
 
2012-06-19 10:44:23 AM
Sadly, there are always some willing dupes who won't ever learn the truth-because they don't want to.

Perhaps if real journalism existed in the mainstream outlets instead of the manufactured public opinion mills of Fox News & MSNBC then people wouldn't have this problem.
 
2012-06-19 10:45:05 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: to get his totally not welfare cash


Yeah, fark those poor people that rely on the government for assistance!

That IS your point, isn't it? It's welfare for the poor people that use it. God forbid the government pay for the services they need!

Man that was some serious stupid, Dr.
 
2012-06-19 10:45:39 AM

halfof33: MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.


MSNBC Lied to you?

Holy shiat, the real story was way funnier than the fake one.

Further proving what everyone already knew - to attack Mitt Romney, just use his own words. Making stuff up is a waste of time and the truth is much more damning/hilarious.
 
2012-06-19 10:45:47 AM
I've been to a WaWa and this whole conversation cracks me up.

Romney was talking about WaWas and his reference to WaWa was obscured by him talking about how WaWas have something unique to WaWas but Romney has never been to a WaWa before his trip to this WaWa.

It just makes it sound like a fake name, like hooha
 
2012-06-19 10:47:01 AM

halfof33: Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on this site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.

Fixed that for you.

MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.


Your candidate sucks and says stupid shiat that gets even stupider when you hear more? Attack MSNBC and Fark.com.
 
2012-06-19 10:47:30 AM

exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.


He did.

I have to say that I was really amazed with the touchscreens the first time I saw them at a Wawa but that was probably ten years ago and I was drunk at the time.

/Philly resident
//Loves me some Wawa
 
2012-06-19 10:47:33 AM

sprawl15: This is a link to a shiatty blog with a link to the real story at a shiatty Hot Air blog with a link to the REAL real story at Sooper Mexican, which I've never heard of but can only assume is a shiatty blog.

Fantastic.


There is a full version on HotAir, too. It's just not the source for the edit.

The internet is hard.
 
2012-06-19 10:47:45 AM

Nezorf: I've been to a WaWa and this whole conversation cracks me up.

Romney was talking about WaWas and his reference to WaWa was obscured by him talking about how WaWas have something unique to WaWas but Romney has never been to a WaWa before his trip to this WaWa.

It just makes it sound like a fake name, like hooha


Or 'Obama'.
 
2012-06-19 10:48:25 AM
/looks at the link

Pajamas Media again subby? Really? You realize people can hover over the article your referring to, right? So they can figure if you're being legit or just being full of it.
 
2012-06-19 10:48:54 AM

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: to get his totally not welfare cash

Yeah, fark those poor people that rely on the government for assistance!

That IS your point, isn't it? It's welfare for the poor people that use it. God forbid the government pay for the services they need!

Man that was some serious stupid, Dr.


Not my point. It was Romeny's. He obviously thinks there are too many obstacles in the way for people to get government assistance. Personally, I don't have a problem with the feds getting the information they need to verify that the tax dollars are getting to where they are supposed to be going. But I also think if poor people have to piss into a cup to get it, so does Dr. Address Change from MItt's sob story. But either way, it's clearly inefficient because he got a kickass hoagie from Wawas in no time at all.
 
2012-06-19 10:49:06 AM
WTF is a Wawa?
 
2012-06-19 10:49:12 AM

Wendy's Chili: That's it!

I'm voting for McCain.


Me too... as long as he picks Sarah to be the VP again.
 
2012-06-19 10:49:37 AM
Sooo getting money from the government to treat patients should be as easy as ordering a sandwich? Is that really his point?

That's even more hilarious that the original story.
 
2012-06-19 10:49:45 AM

Mikey1969: 33 page change of address form? Really? I have never filled out more than a single page.

Mow. I'm not sure how this equates to ordering a sandwich though. Sounds like he's comparing apples and Studebakers.


It may be that the 33 pages was a cover page stating that the existing 32 page contract had been amended to update the address, and the entire contract re-filed with the old address struck out and replaced on the appropriate page. I've had contracts that were set up that way. It was done because someone misplacing or misfiling a whole new copy of the contract was less likely than them losing a one page form.
 
2012-06-19 10:50:03 AM
Also, for the record, its Wawa, not WaWa, subby. It's the name of the town the company started in when it was a local dairy.
 
2012-06-19 10:50:38 AM

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: to get his totally not welfare cash

Yeah, fark those poor people that rely on the government for assistance!

That IS your point, isn't it? It's welfare for the poor people that use it. God forbid the government pay for the services they need!

Man that was some serious stupid, Dr.


Perhaps I am incorrect, but do you suppose the OP was expressing surprise at the candidate's own inconsistencies, rather than their own opinion?

Perhaps that is something to consider, you pearl-clutching sycophant.
 
2012-06-19 10:50:48 AM
My thought process:

1: What story?

2: This was a scandal? Or a big deal?

3: The video was "edited?" I'd put money on the "editing" being standard video editing and that nothing really important was cut out.

4: Huh. Glad I didn't really put money on it. That was an edit that took his words out of context. That was an uncalled-for editing. I can admit that.

5: fark WaWa. Sheetz represent!
 
2012-06-19 10:50:51 AM

Coelacanth: WTF is a Wawa?


It's like a Sheetz.
 
2012-06-19 10:50:51 AM

Coelacanth: WTF is a Wawa?


Washington Mutual. It's a bank that has an extremely good coffee selection in their waiting rooms.
 
2012-06-19 10:51:04 AM

Coelacanth: WTF is a Wawa?


It's Helen Keller's favorite convince store.
 
2012-06-19 10:51:39 AM
Wow, the full video is actually WAY more embarrassing than the shortened version.
 
2012-06-19 10:51:54 AM

Bloody William: 5: fark WaWa. Sheetz represent!


Dwight_Yeast: Coelacanth: WTF is a Wawa?

It's like a Sheetz.


Three seconds!
 
2012-06-19 10:52:12 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.

Oh, dude. I watched the whole video. He totally said that. It's hilarious. He makes a pointing gesture with his hand while he says it, too, just in case you didn't know what he was talking about.


img440.imageshack.us
"I went to order a sandwich... You press the little touchtone keypad, all right? You just touch that, y'know? And the sandwich comes in - touch this, touch this, touch this, beep beep beep."
 
2012-06-19 10:52:14 AM
I think we can safely say we know the identify of the doctor.

www.pequepuzzle.com
 
2012-06-19 10:52:48 AM
Therefore Romney is not out of touch with average Americans.

i194.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-19 10:53:12 AM
MsNBC lied to you? Attack 16.5.
 
2012-06-19 10:53:30 AM
Also holy fark, another PJ Media link? Submitter, put on some farking REAL pants and get a job like outside your house. I don't think blogging is really working for you.
 
2012-06-19 10:53:38 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Bloody William: 5: fark WaWa. Sheetz represent!

Dwight_Yeast: Coelacanth: WTF is a Wawa?

It's like a Sheetz.

Three seconds!


The two things I miss in New York are Sheetz and Dairy Queen. I can get so much stuff here, but I can't get an MTO meatball sub or nachos (and 7-Eleven can't hold a candle to them) or a real frosty.

On the other hand, I can get a farkton of ethnic food I couldn't possibly have gotten in in northeast PA, so it evens out.

/2:00 a.m. Sheetz nacho-and-icee runs were the core of my high school life.
 
2012-06-19 10:54:11 AM

Mikey1969: 33 page change of address form? Really? I have never filled out more than a single page.

Mow. I'm not sure how this equates to ordering a sandwich though. Sounds like he's comparing apples and Studebakers.


I just stopped changing my address with the most recent move. I don't need all of those credit card offers coming in at my new place.

Dwight_Yeast: Also, for the record, its Wawa, not WaWa, subby. It's the name of the town the company started in when it was a local dairy.


Also, this. Think that Wawa paid Romney to talk about their sandwich ordering so close to Hoagiefest?

/synergy
 
2012-06-19 10:54:36 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: Not my point. It was Romeny's. He obviously thinks there are too many obstacles in the way for people to get government assistance


His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.

So is he wrong that a 33 page change of address form and people getting paid to help that don't is inefficient? I guess the idea that the public sector excels at wasting time and money is pure fantasy.

Not that Romnuts is going to fix that, mind you.
 
2012-06-19 10:54:40 AM
I've been a little out of touch on this one.

I thought he'd done a Bahbwa Wawa interview.

www.bitchdujour.com

What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?
 
2012-06-19 10:54:45 AM
i194.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-19 10:55:04 AM
t1.gstatic.com

Out of touch

t2.gstatic.com

Out of time
 
2012-06-19 10:55:18 AM
Thank God we're finally dealing with the hard hitting issues like touch screens and golf, that really matter to every day quality of life in this country.

It just makes me laugh. Somewhere, someone on both the Obama and Romney campaigns are strategically discussing what their candidate should order for lunch, should they make a stop where ordering lunch is required. They've got a white board setup and have it broken down by entree/side/drink/condiments, carefully eliminating individual selections or combinations that might be seen as too elite/pandering/stupid/etc.

People are spending time and money to do this. And they have to do this because there are a pack of wolves outside waiting to tear into this "story" should even a morsel of controversy present itself.

God Bless America. We sure as hell need it.
 
2012-06-19 10:55:21 AM

halfof33: MsNBC lied to you? Attack 16.5.


The full story makes Romney look even worse. The editing made him look better.

I think you might be lost. Are you lost?
 
2012-06-19 10:55:41 AM
Someone please mock up an iPad app designed to efficiently deliver taxpayer money to the user, and present it to Romney at his next event.

Tell him you have the solution
 
2012-06-19 10:55:58 AM

halfof33: Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on this site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.

Fixed that for you.

MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.


How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.
 
2012-06-19 10:56:48 AM
Hey Mitt, it's Wawa, not Wawa's. You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's. There wasn't some dude named Wawa that started the company.

/Spent most of high school working at one. First day of training is just learning the damn history of the store.
 
2012-06-19 10:56:49 AM

AngryPanda: Dwight_Yeast: Also, for the record, its Wawa, not WaWa, subby. It's the name of the town the company started in when it was a local dairy.

Also, this. Think that Wawa paid Romney to talk about their sandwich ordering so close to Hoagiefest?

/synergy


I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.

/Ate hoagies when he was a kid.
 
2012-06-19 10:57:31 AM
He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is. He still sucks and won't fix it, but pretending that's not what happened is pointing out your own derp.
 
2012-06-19 10:57:32 AM

cman: Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?


Asks a guy whose idea of "actual news" is "WHAR BIRF CIRTIFICIT WHAR"
 
2012-06-19 10:57:49 AM

Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.


Let's be fair, the clip was edited so the context of his statement was completely cut out. Whether the statement itself had any value or was stupid is another thing entirely.
 
2012-06-19 10:59:02 AM

sweetmelissa31: [i194.photobucket.com image 272x320]


oh my god

it just needs a tophat
 
2012-06-19 10:59:48 AM
I can NOT believe the major networks are not covering this breaking news story. I have never been so infuriated in my entire life.
 
2012-06-19 11:00:42 AM

s2s2s2: He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is. He still sucks and won't fix it, but pretending that's not what happened is pointing out your own derp.


Noooo he was impressed by the technology. , he talked about how amazing it was. And as already pointed out his comments were BS. Why as governor was he so icomoetent not to make these changes that he now says are easy?
 
2012-06-19 11:01:03 AM

Bloody William: Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.

Let's be fair, the clip was edited so the context of his statement was completely cut out. Whether the statement itself had any value or was stupid is another thing entirely.


Not to mention the setup that "well, I guess he' just a 'tardin' out, here" is why people accept this as Romney being an idiot about this.
 
2012-06-19 11:01:04 AM

s2s2s2: His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.

So is he wrong that a 33 page change of address form and people getting paid to help that don't is inefficient? I guess the idea that the public sector excels at wasting time and money is pure fantasy.


I'm not sure. We don't really know much about what he was talking about. If that doctor was asking for reimbursement for services performed for a lot of people then, yeah, 33 pages to verify that there were actually patients and the nature of the services provided might be in order. Otherwise, you run the risk of some yokel getting federal money for stuff that he didn't do because the government isn't checking. Regardless, it's not inefficient because Wawas makes sandwiches quickly.
 
2012-06-19 11:01:57 AM

jayhawk88: Thank God we're finally dealing with the hard hitting issues like touch screens and golf, that really matter to every day quality of life in this country.

It just makes me laugh. Somewhere, someone on both the Obama and Romney campaigns are strategically discussing what their candidate should order for lunch, should they make a stop where ordering lunch is required. They've got a white board setup and have it broken down by entree/side/drink/condiments, carefully eliminating individual selections or combinations that might be seen as too elite/pandering/stupid/etc.

People are spending time and money to do this. And they have to do this because there are a pack of wolves outside waiting to tear into this "story" should even a morsel of controversy present itself.

God Bless America. We sure as hell need it.


You just know that Obama will get raked over the coals if he orders arugula on his ham sandwich instead of iceberg lettuce like us in the proletariat.
 
2012-06-19 11:02:14 AM

Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.


Really, forever? Well slap my farking mouth and call me silly.

I guess you are right, government bureaucracy went out of existence when Obama assumed his role as god's own messenger, and that means Mitt Romney has to do the hula hoop on Constitution Avenue while Sarah Palin plays the spoons.

MsNBC lied? Spin, spin, spin.... Work that spin, sport, I enjoy it
 
2012-06-19 11:02:25 AM

Bloody William: The two things I miss in New York are Sheetz and Dairy Queen.


I only get to go to Sheetz if I'm out past Reading or Lancaster. Sheetz and Wawa have a non-compete agreement, so their territories in PA don't overlap.
 
2012-06-19 11:02:53 AM

Bloody William: Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.

Let's be fair, the clip was edited so the context of his statement was completely cut out. Whether the statement itself had any value or was stupid is another thing entirely.


Most likely it was edit for brevity, there were multiple contexts and one was edited out. That happens every time if you don't play the entire speech.
 
2012-06-19 11:03:04 AM
Oh, look. Another pseudo-journalistic right-wing talking point generator hidden behind the "some guy" moniker. And some d-bag greenlit it. How new and amazing.
 
2012-06-19 11:03:05 AM

BMulligan: The Homer Tax: I thought Pajamas Media had their own icon on this site? What's with all the links to them hiding behind "Some Guy" these days?

Yeah, that was my question, too.


home.comcast.net
 
2012-06-19 11:03:20 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-19 11:03:26 AM

NeoCortex42: You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's.


I think you sound like an idiot no matter how you pronounce it.
 
2012-06-19 11:03:39 AM

Corvus: Noooo he was impressed by the technology. , he talked about how amazing it was. And as already pointed out his comments were BS. Why as governor was he so icomoetent not to make these changes that he now says are easy?


No, it's pretty clear he is talking about the divide. I've already made my statement on the fact he won't make anything any better. The difference will be that, if he were to win, we would blame him, and not congress when shiat doesn't get better.
 
2012-06-19 11:04:11 AM
Remember the Romney befuddled at WaWa story?

Nope, but that's what happens when you run to debunk the non scandal that nobody really gave a crap about and is less than 16 hours old.
 
2012-06-19 11:04:26 AM
Your first problem is watching a 2 hour news network.
 
2012-06-19 11:04:58 AM
"I went to order a sandwich... You press the little touchtone keypad, all right? You just touch that, y'know? And the sandwich comes in - touch this, touch this, touch this, beep beep beep."

Baaahahahahhaa
 
2012-06-19 11:04:59 AM

zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.


Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.
 
2012-06-19 11:05:04 AM

Corvus: Bloody William: Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.

Let's be fair, the clip was edited so the context of his statement was completely cut out. Whether the statement itself had any value or was stupid is another thing entirely.

Most likely it was edit for brevity, there were multiple contexts and one was edited out. That happens every time if you don't play the entire speech.


Dude, usually I'm on your side for things like this, but this is actually a case where the main reason Romney said these things were edited out. It was a bad job from MSNBC. I'll be the first to rant angrily when conservatives cry about context when editing is just done for brevity, but that wasn't the case here. His words were cut to give the wrong impression and not show why he said those things.
 
2012-06-19 11:05:09 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I wouldn't mind if it was difficult for people to receive subsidies. That's not the sort of thing I want to be three clicks away from any random retard.

Also, I'm going to assume Romney hasn't actually been to a DMV recently since a huge percentage of them are computer driven and (for Georgia, at least) they go pretty quick with whatever you need.

The solution, of course, is to cut government services. That will make things better.
 
2012-06-19 11:05:36 AM

halfof33: Corvus: How did they lie exactly? Romney was still impressed by the technology that's been around forever. That is the point.

Really, forever? Well slap my farking mouth and call me silly.

I guess you are right, government bureaucracy went out of existence when Obama assumed his role as god's own messenger, and that means Mitt Romney has to do the hula hoop on Constitution Avenue while Sarah Palin plays the spoons.

MsNBC lied? Spin, spin, spin.... Work that spin, sport, I enjoy it


What the hell are you talking about? You seem to want to actually ignore the points being made so you play the non sequitur game because you can't respond logically.
 
2012-06-19 11:06:04 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: Regardless, it's not inefficient because Wawas makes sandwiches quickly.


No one said it was. He said it was more efficient because it has to be.
 
2012-06-19 11:06:09 AM

Theaetetus: NeoCortex42: You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's.

I think you sound like an idiot no matter how you pronounce it.


Eh, you get use to it. I grew up in South Jersey, where the density of Wawa stores makes it so that nearly all road directions can be given in terms of what Wawa store is nearby.
 
2012-06-19 11:06:19 AM

BSABSVR: Remember the Romney befuddled at WaWa story?

Nope, but that's what happens when you run to debunk the non scandal that nobody really gave a crap about and is less than 16 hours old.

 
2012-06-19 11:06:36 AM

quantum_csc: Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.


Plus the thing is named after the guy...
 
2012-06-19 11:06:46 AM

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 272x320]


j.wigflip.com
 
2012-06-19 11:07:27 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Noooo he was impressed by the technology. , he talked about how amazing it was. And as already pointed out his comments were BS. Why as governor was he so icomoetent not to make these changes that he now says are easy?

No, it's pretty clear he is talking about the divide. I've already made my statement on the fact he won't make anything any better. The difference will be that, if he were to win, we would blame him, and not congress when shiat doesn't get better.


So it's impossible for a statement making more than one point? Because that's the argument you are making.
 
2012-06-19 11:07:59 AM

quantum_csc: zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.

Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.


Technically, it's not really a Blackberry. It's a secure, NSA-approved device issued to people with the highest level security clearance.
 
2012-06-19 11:08:13 AM
When does the average person use a touch screen in their daily lives nowadays? What comes to mind:

ATMs
Supermarket/ Pharmacy self-checkout
iPod/ iPad
Restaurant wait staff/ bartenders
Cashiers using cash registers
Buying movie tickets at the theater
Buying subway/ metro passes
Buying baseball tickets at the stadium
When using GPS systems

Usually gas station pumps have buttons on the side
Usually restaurant patrons don't use touch screens to order, not even at drive thrus
Most mini marts don't have touch screens for people buying coffee and twinkies.
 
2012-06-19 11:08:32 AM
The important takeaway here is that halfof33's fee-fees got hurt.
 
2012-06-19 11:09:02 AM

Corvus: So it's impossible for a statement making more than one point?


wat?
 
2012-06-19 11:09:41 AM
He is out of touch, though, if he thinks touch screens are actually a sign of efficiency. They've had touch screen ticket machines on the railroad and subway for more than half my life by now and anyone in a rush knows that if there's an open window you'll get that ticket way quicker from a living breathing human being rather than waiting behind Touristy McMumu or GuyWhoHasn'tRiddenTheSubwayInYearsButHisCarBrokeDown on the touch screen line.

Oh wait, I forgot, for Romney employing fewer people == efficiency, not time or convenience.
 
2012-06-19 11:10:04 AM

BSABSVR: The important takeaway here is that halfof33's fee-fees got hurt.


Considering how the right-wing nitwits got all hot and bothered by Obama using "wee-wee'd"...I can only assume they will throw around "WaWa" at every opportunity.
 
2012-06-19 11:10:09 AM

s2s2s2: No, it's pretty clear he is talking about the divide.


Well the government doesn't make sandwiches so I can see why they'd be falling behind in the sandwich technology cold war.
 
2012-06-19 11:10:20 AM

Dwight_Yeast: quantum_csc: zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.

Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.

Technically, it's not really a Blackberry. It's a secure, NSA-approved device issued to people with the highest level security clearance.


Yeah, but I'll bet he can't access twitter or facebook from it, so he's not hip to the latest techno
 
2012-06-19 11:10:46 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Noooo he was impressed by the technology. , he talked about how amazing it was. And as already pointed out his comments were BS. Why as governor was he so icomoetent not to make these changes that he now says are easy?

No, it's pretty clear he is talking about the divide. I've already made my statement on the fact he won't make anything any better. The difference will be that, if he were to win, we would blame him, and not congress when shiat doesn't get better.


Like I said and you ignored. Yes that is one of the points he was making. AND why did he fail at this as governor? I never said this wasn't a point he was making. You are playing a straw man. However he ALSO was impressed with the technology being used like that like MSNBC said.


You are trying to ignore my actual argument and make it into something I never said.
 
2012-06-19 11:11:24 AM

sweetmelissa31: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 272x320]

[j.wigflip.com image 272x320]


see I like this horse better because unlike Romney's horse ballet horse that costs $77k a year to feed and house, it does not have an "ethnic" hair style
 
2012-06-19 11:11:26 AM
t2.gstatic.com

Remember when Hillary couldn't figure out the coffee machine?
 
2012-06-19 11:11:54 AM

platedlizard: Sooo getting money from the government to treat patients should be as easy as ordering a sandwich? Is that really his point?

That's even more hilarious that the original story.


Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing...
 
2012-06-19 11:12:05 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: So it's impossible for a statement making more than one point?

wat?


Sorry I thought you weren't so dumb. I guess you can't understand pretty simple concepts.
 
2012-06-19 11:12:06 AM

Corvus:
What the hell are you talking about? You seem to want to actually ignore the points being made so you play the non sequitur game because you can't respond logically.


Says the guy who speculates that they edited it for "brevity" (even though the rest of us can see the whole thing) and not because it was cheap trick followed up by a couple of partisan hacks yukking it up on a 24 hour news spewer.

MsNBC lied. Attack 16.5

We already saw that used, try harder.
 
2012-06-19 11:12:23 AM

Dwight_Yeast: quantum_csc: zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.

Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.

Technically, it's not really a Blackberry. It's a secure, NSA-approved device issued to people with the highest level security clearance.


Think I could get one on eBay?
 
2012-06-19 11:13:18 AM

Headso: Well the government doesn't make sandwiches


Sure they do. Many public buildings have cafeterias. I wonder how long the forms are to get the sammiches.
 
2012-06-19 11:13:40 AM
Wait until he sees bar-code readers
 
2012-06-19 11:13:57 AM

IlGreven: cman: Why is it that when an election is coming up people tend to focus on the most absurd instead of, you know, actual news?

Asks a guy whose idea of "actual news" is "WHAR BIRF CIRTIFICIT WHAR"


Playing upon stereotypes makes you look very foolish
 
2012-06-19 11:14:07 AM

Corvus: s2s2s2: Corvus: So it's impossible for a statement making more than one point?

wat?

Sorry I thought you weren't so dumb. I guess you can't understand pretty simple concepts.


Not without basic grammar.
 
2012-06-19 11:14:45 AM

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: Regardless, it's not inefficient because Wawas makes sandwiches quickly.

No one said it was. He said it was more efficient because it has to be.


I'm not really sure what your gripe is with me but Romney pretty much said just that. He used Wawas ability to make a sandwich directly as an example of private sector efficiency and compared it, directly, to the difficulties some doctor had in securing federal aid as an example of federal government inefficiency. He actually used the ease of getting a sandwich from a business as an example of private sector excellence and directly compared it to the steps taken to secure federal aid for medical services rendered as an example of federal government inefficiency. It's an insanely stupid comparison. If that upsets you then your beef is with Romney, not me.
 
2012-06-19 11:14:59 AM
So touchpads (a technology developed by the RRE and CERN and that has been in place since the 1970's in all sorts of roles both public and private) are an example of free market innovation that shows how the government is too slow and unresponsive to produce new ideas?

Look, I'm definitely someone who thinks free markets are superior to government central planning, but it's not like what the government is doing right now qualifies as central planning and the idea that innovation (particularly scientific innovation) can only happen seperate from any government support or oversight is ridiculous. This is like how politicians seem to always point to the internet as an example of something that the government could never even dream up let alone create.
 
2012-06-19 11:16:05 AM

halfof33: cheap trick followed up by a couple of partisan hacks yukking it up on a 24 hour news spewer.


If that kind of stuff didn't work "conservatives" wouldn't hold so much power, not really your place to get all grumpy about it.
 
2012-06-19 11:16:11 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: I'm not really sure what your gripe is with me


Calling medicare/medicaid payments for services rendered "welfare for the Dr." That's really my only gripe with you.
 
2012-06-19 11:16:44 AM

s2s2s2: He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is.


Do we have any numbers on just how inefficient government sandwich ordering systems are?
 
2012-06-19 11:16:47 AM

Grungehamster: So touchpads (a technology developed by the RRE and CERN and that has been in place since the 1970's in all sorts of roles both public and private) are an example of free market innovation that shows how the government is too slow and unresponsive to produce new ideas?


He just thinks that 33 pages of forms to buy a sandwich would be obtrusive. If you disagree, you're un-american LIEbral media.
 
2012-06-19 11:16:59 AM

halfof33: Corvus:
What the hell are you talking about? You seem to want to actually ignore the points being made so you play the non sequitur game because you can't respond logically.

Says the guy who speculates that they edited it for "brevity" (even though the rest of us can see the whole thing) and not because it was cheap trick followed up by a couple of partisan hacks yukking it up on a 24 hour news spewer.

MsNBC lied. Attack 16.5

We already saw that used, try harder.


You sound slightly retarded by repeating that so often and it kind of obscures your message.

/just saying.
 
2012-06-19 11:17:02 AM

s2s2s2: Headso: Well the government doesn't make sandwiches

Sure they do. Many public buildings have cafeterias. I wonder how long the forms are to get the sammiches.


I would imagine that is a subcontractor...
 
2012-06-19 11:17:41 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."


Hey moron.

The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.

*THAT* is the point being made. The government is incredibly wasteful and inefficient - not because it has to be - but precisely because there is *ZERO* incentive to be more efficient when there are clowns like you who will always argue that the government needs more and more money out of my pocket no matter how much they waste it on nonsense like this. No business could survive with such a model, but willful idiots like you ensure that the government keeps on doing it anyway.

And, by the way, his "totally not welfare cash" is totally not welfare because the optometrist performed a service for which the government promised to pay. That makes him a contractor, not a welfare recipient. If not for the contract with the government, the patient wouldn't have been seen at all. Thanks for displaying your ignorance on the difference.
 
2012-06-19 11:18:00 AM
I'm totally shocked! This has never happened before!

Surely it was a mistake and unintentional and will never happen again. But if it does, who cares? Four more years!
 
2012-06-19 11:18:02 AM
Romney attack ad on Obama no. 1:
Ad quote: Obama: "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose [scary echo]"
Actual quote: Obama was quoting an aide to Sen. McCain, not stating it as his own position.

Romney attack ad on Obama no. 2:
Ad quote: "Obama on Bain: 'This is what the campaign is going to be about.'"
Actual quote: "This is what this campaign is going to be about -- is what is a strategy for us to move this country forward in a way where everybody can succeed? And that means I've got to think about those workers in that video just as much as I'm thinking about folks who have been much more successful."
[Remarks by the President at NATO Press Conference]

Now normally you could peg that as an ad hominem tu quoque fallacy -- two wrongs don't make a right, attacking a man back doesn't make it morally right -- but thankfully, Romney's given you
explicit permission to do this exact thing to him in the interests of justice:
Saying the ad "obviously got underneath (the Democrats') skin," the former Massachusetts governor maintained his team edited the ad intentionally to show "what's sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander."

"This ad points out, 'Guess what: It's now your turn.' The same lines used on John McCain are going to be used on you, which is that this economy is going to be your albatross," Romney said, referring to Obama.


Well, guess what: It's now your turn. The same editing used on Barack Obama is going to be used on you.

There you go, Romney. That's the world you wanted. Thanks for explicit, in-context permission to justify giving it to you.
 
2012-06-19 11:18:25 AM

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is.

Do we have any numbers on just how inefficient government sandwich ordering systems are?


Are we including the ones in FEMA camps? They aren't on the books, as their reuben delivery cannons violate several Geneva conventions.
 
2012-06-19 11:18:40 AM

HotWingConspiracy: s2s2s2: He wasn't amazed by the technology, he was amazed at the lack of efficiency on the part of the government, and how wide the gap is.

Do we have any numbers on just how inefficient government sandwich ordering systems are?


yeah curious how well WaWa's would do trying rural electrification or a national highway system.
 
2012-06-19 11:19:40 AM
Liberals want the people who work at the DMV and the TSA to be the same people in charge of making our nation's sandwiches.
 
2012-06-19 11:19:56 AM

Bloody William: I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.


That's funny. I dated a girl who called hoagies subs.

/we don't date anymore
 
2012-06-19 11:20:59 AM

halfof33: Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on this site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.

Fixed that for you.

MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.


Yet here you are, and spinning.
 
2012-06-19 11:21:13 AM

All2morrowsparTs: You sound slightly retarded by repeating that so often and it kind of obscures your message.


You know what makes for a rock solid message? Using the word "retarded."

Good for you.
 
2012-06-19 11:21:32 AM
Well, I'm just glad this Whitey tape has finally been released. . .
 
2012-06-19 11:22:08 AM

s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: I'm not really sure what your gripe is with me

Calling medicare/medicaid payments for services rendered "welfare for the Dr." That's really my only gripe with you.


OK, I'll concede that. I probably shouldn't have been snarky with calling the payments welfare. It sounds like the guy provided a service and was reimbursed for it. I can get down with that.
 
2012-06-19 11:22:12 AM

wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?



It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.
 
2012-06-19 11:23:14 AM
Your blog sucks. Any website that directs viewers to HotAir for *MORE* information is by definition utter crap.
 
2012-06-19 11:23:18 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Do we have any numbers on just how inefficient government sandwich ordering systems are?


And that brings us to what was actually wrong with his comparison. I have no disagreement there.
 
2012-06-19 11:23:32 AM

deschinc: halfof33: Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on this site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.

Fixed that for you.

MSNBC lied to you? Attack Romney.

Yet here you are, and spinning.


I'm fairly confident that saying MsNBC lied is NOT spinning.

But perhaps calling out people who are spinning the lie is spinning?

Gotcha, sport. I'll simplify:

MsNBC lied.

Thanks Helpy!
 
2012-06-19 11:23:47 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: s2s2s2: Corvus: So it's impossible for a statement making more than one point?

wat?

Sorry I thought you weren't so dumb. I guess you can't understand pretty simple concepts.

Not without basic grammar.


From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

Are you really going to do the "I want to ignore the points you are making so I am going to pedantically attack your grammar card" already?
 
2012-06-19 11:23:54 AM

Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.


holy fark they have pancake sandwiches
 
2012-06-19 11:24:08 AM

AngryPanda: Bloody William: I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.

That's funny. I dated a girl who called hoagies subs.

/we don't date anymore


Did she call you Five Dollar?
 
2012-06-19 11:24:56 AM
I am voting for Obama, because I want to see as many people out of work as possible. I want to see corporations crumble. It's going to be great!
 
2012-06-19 11:25:08 AM

apoptotic: It may be that the 33 pages was a cover page stating that the existing 32 page contract had been amended to update the address, and the entire contract re-filed with the old address struck out and replaced on the appropriate page. I've had contracts that were set up that way. It was done because someone misplacing or misfiling a whole new copy of the contract was less likely than them losing a one page form.


That makes much more sense, but doesn't sound as good politically. Of course, judging by this outrage here, Romney doesn't lie anyway, just "The Left", so you're still probably wrong, and Saint Mitt is, of course, Right.
 
2012-06-19 11:25:09 AM

Jackson Herring: Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.

holy fark they have pancake sandwiches


You can't sell beer in convenience stores in Pennsylvania, so they have to make up for it by being AWESOME.
 
2012-06-19 11:25:22 AM

halfof33: All2morrowsparTs: You sound slightly retarded by repeating that so often and it kind of obscures your message.

You know what makes for a rock solid message? Using the word "retarded."

Good for you.


Well when the message is that you are retarded, which you are, calling you retarded seems like a pretty efficient way of getting across the fact that you are retarded.
 
2012-06-19 11:25:24 AM

Jackson Herring: Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.

holy fark they have pancake sandwiches



I had one this morning, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-06-19 11:25:55 AM

AngryPanda: I just stopped changing my address with the most recent move. I don't need all of those credit card offers coming in at my new place.


Yeah, but there's always someone I miss, my student loans, one of the banks, Grandma...
 
2012-06-19 11:26:07 AM
So then why did Romney does as a state governor to modernize his state like this?

A Governor would be the easiest job to modernize departments of almost any political position. So what did he do exactly?

(I know this will be ignored because t he did exactly what he is complaining about)
 
2012-06-19 11:26:17 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: s2s2s2: Doctor Funkenstein: I'm not really sure what your gripe is with me

Calling medicare/medicaid payments for services rendered "welfare for the Dr." That's really my only gripe with you.

OK, I'll concede that. I probably shouldn't have been snarky with calling the payments welfare. It sounds like the guy provided a service and was reimbursed for it. I can get down with that.


I think Congress needs to spend more time in the politics tab at Fark. There are some decent examples of how to resolve disagreements here. At least in a "Change of address that will affect medicare payment services as compared with ordering a sandwich at one end of a bar and picking it up at the other" kind of way.
 
2012-06-19 11:26:45 AM

Doctor Funkenstein: exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.

Oh, dude. I watched the whole video. He totally said that. It's hilarious. He makes a pointing gesture with his hand while he says it, too, just in case you didn't know what he was talking about. Judging by the few looks of the folks in the crowd, it was probably a good call on his part to clarify to them. It's also pretty clear he has no idea what a Wawas is, which I guess I can give him a pass on. I'm not sure if they have them in Massachusetts or not. I'm pretty sure they have touchscreens, though.

On a somewhat unrelated note, the Romneybot is sixty farking five years old? Holy shiat. I'm starting to actually believe that he might be a robot.


I didn't know WTF a Wawa was until I worked in New Jersey for a few weeks. I still haven't ordered from the touch screen but I know what they are now. I get the concept but I can't think of any business in my large-university-based city that has one for actually ordering. (shrug).

I mean... I passed through the East Coast before (and Ohio apparently?) and have probably stopped and, you know, gotten gas at one before. But the fact that my freakin' coworkers were okay with a gas station for a lunch break still amazes me.
 
2012-06-19 11:28:10 AM

Bloody William: 4: Huh. Glad I didn't really put money on it. That was an edit that took his words out of context. That was an uncalled-for editing. I can admit that.


Well, considering that the full video made him look even stupider, I think he should have been rooting for the edited version to be the go-to Romney video for a couple of weeks.
 
2012-06-19 11:29:13 AM

AngryPanda: Bloody William: I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.

That's funny. I dated a girl who called hoagies subs.

/we don't date anymore


Grinders
/get it right
 
2012-06-19 11:29:22 AM

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".


[thatsthejoke.jpg]

Corvus: Are you really going to do the "I want to ignore the points you are making so I am going to pedantically attack your grammar card" already?


No, I was trying to gently nudge you to correct that sentence, so that I would be more sure of how to reply. Then you got all "insulty" on me, so I tried again to remind you that your sentence didn't make any sense. Are you not getting that point?
 
2012-06-19 11:30:14 AM

Corvus: So then why did Romney do as a state governor to modernize his state like this?

A Governor would be the easiest job to modernize departments of almost any political position. So what did he do exactly?

(I know this will be ignored because t he did exactly what he is complaining about)


fixed that for the grammar nazis.
 
2012-06-19 11:30:48 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I mean... I passed through the East Coast before (and Ohio apparently?) and have probably stopped and, you know, gotten gas at one before. But the fact that my freakin' coworkers were okay with a gas station for a lunch break still amazes me.



I feel it is important to note that not all WaWas sell gas, and it was a successful chain long before any of the stores put in gas pumps. It's not lunch at a gas station. It's gas at a lunch station.
 
2012-06-19 11:30:51 AM
From the link:
"No matter how many times these sorts of shenanigans boomerang back and embarrass them, they still think they can twist the public's perceptions the way they wish."

I almost fell on the floor when I figured out he was talking about liberals. The cognitive dissonance of these guys is truly a thing to behold.
 
2012-06-19 11:31:07 AM

Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.


You're under-selling it. Wawa is probably the source of lunch for most working people in a lot of its region. I've had the "honor" of working shifts at two of the three busiest stores in the chain, which easily raked in $1M per day in the summer.
 
2012-06-19 11:31:37 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

[thatsthejoke.jpg]

Corvus: Are you really going to do the "I want to ignore the points you are making so I am going to pedantically attack your grammar card" already?

No, I was trying to gently nudge you to correct that sentence, so that I would be more sure of how to reply. Then you got all "insulty" on me, so I tried again to remind you that your sentence didn't make any sense. Are you not getting that point?


Huh huh wut? Try again English major
 
2012-06-19 11:31:47 AM

Corvus: Corvus: So then why did Romney do as a state governor to modernize his state like this?

A Governor would be the easiest job to modernize departments of almost any political position. So what did he do exactly?

(I know this will be ignored because t he did exactly what he is complaining about)

fixed that for the grammar nazis.


Nope, you didn't. "Heil Effective Communication!"
 
2012-06-19 11:32:04 AM

Bloody William: I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.


Did they call it a hero? Because that's what I used to call it.
 
2012-06-19 11:32:08 AM

sprawl15: Grungehamster: So touchpads (a technology developed by the RRE and CERN and that has been in place since the 1970's in all sorts of roles both public and private) are an example of free market innovation that shows how the government is too slow and unresponsive to produce new ideas?

He just thinks that 33 pages of forms to buy a sandwich would be obtrusive. If you disagree, you're un-american LIEbral media.


Well, I can agree that filling out a 33 page form to order a sandwich is a bit excessive.
/would really like to see this form
//fills out federal government forms all the time; they usually run 4-10 pages with an extra 4 or so explaining what to do
///but then I'm not billing Medicare/Medicaid, no idea what those look like
 
2012-06-19 11:32:35 AM

whitman00: From the link:
"No matter how many times these sorts of shenanigans boomerang back and embarrass them, they still think they can twist the public's perceptions the way they wish."

I almost fell on the floor when I figured out he was talking about liberals. The cognitive dissonance of these guys is truly a thing to behold.


look at the conservatives in the thread suddenly concerned about accuracy in reporting, great stuff all around.
 
2012-06-19 11:33:09 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I get the concept but I can't think of any business in my large-university-based city that has one for actually ordering. (shrug).


I mean, ordering food, dammit.

/tickets, DMV renewals, etc., sure
//but food? what a concept.
 
2012-06-19 11:33:58 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

[thatsthejoke.jpg]

Corvus: Are you really going to do the "I want to ignore the points you are making so I am going to pedantically attack your grammar card" already?

No, I was trying to gently nudge you to correct that sentence, so that I would be more sure of how to reply. Then you got all "insulty" on me, so I tried again to remind you that your sentence didn't make any sense. Are you not getting that point?


Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"
 
2012-06-19 11:34:11 AM
Romney's hand-wringing about the length of form to access government monies is emblematic of the problem with the GOP's stated position on how to reign in the budget.

Ask your local R officials/supporters how they would fix the budget, and because no one actually wants to name the programs that people in their district rather enjoy, they will throw you this chestnut:

"I will eliminate waste, inefficiency, and fraud."


Thing is, in the real world it is damn near impossible to do all of those at once. In most cases, you increase the likelihood of one as you decrease the likelihood of the other.

THAT is what's so telling about the statement, not the alleged similarity to the George HW Bush checkout scanner myth. It's that outside of general platitudes about "fiscal responsibility, the Republican party is bankrupt on actual policy solutions that don't involve moar tax cuts.
 
2012-06-19 11:34:31 AM

sweetmelissa31: Bloody William: I called a sub a hoagie last week. My asshole friends who grew up on Long Island made fun of me for it.

Did they call it a hero? Because that's what I used to call it.


As long as you don't call soda pop, we don't have any problems.
 
2012-06-19 11:34:45 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Corvus: So then why did Romney do as a state governor to modernize his state like this?

A Governor would be the easiest job to modernize departments of almost any political position. So what did he do exactly?

(I know this will be ignored because t he did exactly what he is complaining about)

fixed that for the grammar nazis.

Nope, you didn't. "Heil Effective Communication!"


And "wut?" is effective communication how again?
 
2012-06-19 11:35:44 AM

Corvus: Try again English major


Priceless.

I'm not down with Romney, and his comparison was inappropriate, but I understood what his words meant. The fact that you have shown difficulty using words is just cause to assume you didn't actually understand his words.

What is it they told me...? "Preview is your friend." It says "you made a mistake" without saying "you are dumb".
 
2012-06-19 11:35:49 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Corvus: So then why did Romney do as a state governor to modernize his state like this?

A Governor would be the easiest job to modernize departments of almost any political position. So what did he do exactly?

(I know this will be ignored because t he did exactly what he is complaining about)

fixed that for the grammar nazis.

Nope, you didn't. "Heil Effective Communication!"


Why is there quotes on this and it's capitalized?

WUT?!?
 
2012-06-19 11:36:25 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Try again English major

Priceless.

I'm not down with Romney, and his comparison was inappropriate, but I understood what his words meant. The fact that you have shown difficulty using words is just cause to assume you didn't actually understand his words.

What is it they told me...? "Preview is your friend." It says "you made a mistake" without saying "you are dumb".


Wut?!?
 
2012-06-19 11:37:57 AM

Propain_az: I am voting for Obama, because I want to see as many people out of work as possible. I want to see corporations crumble. It's going to be great!


I am voting for Obama because I want to see the mouth breathing retards have a stroke in November. It's going to be epic for sure.
 
2012-06-19 11:39:29 AM

Polyhazard: Um yeah... I don't know what a "WaWa" is either, but I do want to know why the party who is convinced leeches are bleeding the taxpayer dry want to make it more efficient and painless to access government cheddar.


Well, to be fair, (If the story was true), the guy was just trying to get reimbursement for services he had provided, wasn't looking for subsidies or anything like that, he was trying to get paid for his job. If it's a true story, I can understand the point that Mittens is trying to make. Of course, either Mitt or the Optometrist are leaving out some major details here.
 
2012-06-19 11:39:37 AM

Corvus: Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"


It was "wat?" and you knew what I meant. You made that clear by correcting me:

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".


I've explained myself.
 
2012-06-19 11:39:44 AM
So why didn't Romney fix these things as Governor in his state?

Anyone, anyone? Bueller?
 
2012-06-19 11:40:30 AM

Bloody William: You can't sell beer in convenience stores in Pennsylvania, so they have to make up for it by being AWESOME.


Believe it or not, there's a Wawa at 38th & Spruce on U Penn's campus that used to have a six-pack license. I used to buy beer there when I lived in West Philly.

Don't know if they lost it or gave it away, as it had to be a huge liability.
 
2012-06-19 11:41:37 AM

Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?

It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.


I did google it and I still didn't know what it was. I've been watching QT and Racetrack gas stations morph into deli's and coffee shops, but you're saying Wawa started off as deli's and are turning into convenience stores.
 
2012-06-19 11:43:19 AM

jim_paul: Hey moron.

The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.

*THAT* is the point being made. The govern ...


There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.

Most of us civilians have changed our address for the post office before. The form is the size of a postcard or you can do the whole damn thing online in under two minutes. It causes many of us to believe there is more to this story than is being pimped out RMoney Small Government Brigade.
 
2012-06-19 11:43:50 AM

TrollingForColumbine: Grinders
/get it right


I was under the impression that hoagies and grinders are two different things.

/navy beans, navy beans..
 
2012-06-19 11:44:21 AM

platedlizard: halfof33: MsNBC lied to you? Attack 16.5.

The full story makes Romney look even worse. The editing made him look better.

I think you might be lost. Are you lost?


If the media really wanted to edit things to make Romney look better, they'd do this:

www.slate.com
 
2012-06-19 11:44:27 AM

Bloody William:

As long as you don't call soda pop,


Call it what? At 1am? Drunk dialing it?
 
2012-06-19 11:45:46 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"

It was "wat?" and you knew what I meant. You made that clear by correcting me:

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

I've explained myself.


Really? Where did you explain "wat?" being "effective communication". I thought you didn't understand the point you were making. So you failed at communication, which is people understanding what you meant, not following all rules of English. No I didn't know what you meant maybe that is why I responded they way I did.


You attack other for the mistakes you then make and then get all pissed off for people treating you like you treated them.


I admit I am not the best communicator, I really don't care. Arguing on fark to me is not so important I am going to proof read everything I type. But it's fun to point out the hypocrisy of people like you with your pedantic attacks while you butcher English and think "wat?" is good communication.
 
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2012-06-19 11:45:49 AM

Fart_Machine: Wow the spin on that site is like a huge vortex of stupidity.


haha!
 
2012-06-19 11:46:08 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"

It was "wat?" and you knew what I meant. You made that clear by correcting me:

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

I've explained myself.


could you two just fark and get it over with
 
2012-06-19 11:46:58 AM

Polyhazard: There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.

Most of us civilians have changed our address for the post office before. The form is the size of a postcard or you can do the whole damn thing online in under two minutes. It causes many of us to believe there is more to this story than is being pimped out RMoney Small Government Brigade.


It reeks of hearsay. Like a friend who had to spend $10,000 on a permit to install a shower.
 
2012-06-19 11:47:17 AM

wildcardjack: Wulfman: wildcardjack: What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?

It was a dairy/deli that expanded into more of a convenience store and gas station. They were one of the first to do the touch-screen ordering system at their sandwich counter, incidentally. You could always google it, ya know.

I did google it and I still didn't know what it was. I've been watching QT and Racetrack gas stations morph into deli's and coffee shops, but you're saying Wawa started off as deli's and are turning into convenience stores.


Wawa started off as a dairy. They then opened up delis, which also featured Wawa dairy products. It grew into a full deli and convenience store. About 10-15 years ago, they started to really get into adding gas stations as well. Some stores have had gas for a while, but now it is much more common.
 
2012-06-19 11:47:55 AM

jim_paul: Hey moron.

The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.

*THAT* is the point being made. The government is incredibly wasteful and inefficient - not because it has to be - but precisely because there is *ZERO* incentive to be more efficient when there are clowns like you who will always argue that the government needs more and more money out of my pocket no matter how much they waste it on nonsense like this. No business could survive with such a model, but willful idiots like you ensure that the government keeps on doing it anyway.

And, by the way, his "totally not welfare cash" is totally not welfare because the optometrist performed a service for which the government promised to pay. That makes him a contractor, not a welfare recipient. If not for the contract with the government, the patient wouldn't have been seen at all. Thanks for displaying your ignorance on the difference.



Alrighty, then. From what I can gather, this optometrist was seeking funds under a medicare or medicaid incentive program which is administered through the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services. Here's information on receiving federal reimbursement from American Optometric Association. Here's a link to the Application/Update form.. In its entirety, the form is 6 pages and mostly consists of instructions. Per the instructions, guess what you have to do to change your address? Check a farking box and then write in your address. They specifically tell you not to fill out any section that isn't being changed. If this guy filled out a 33 page form, he wasn't just changing his address. So, it appears that Romney either completely made this story up or that some yokel fed him a line of BS about the big bad government and he ran with it without giving it any thought at all. Neither result is good.

Regarding me calling it welfare cash. You're right. The guy was just getting reimbursed from a federal program for services rendered to eligible patients. I mention that several posts up.
 
2012-06-19 11:48:08 AM

Bloody William: Polyhazard: There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.

Most of us civilians have changed our address for the post office before. The form is the size of a postcard or you can do the whole damn thing online in under two minutes. It causes many of us to believe there is more to this story than is being pimped out RMoney Small Government Brigade.

It reeks of hearsay. Like a friend who had to spend $10,000 on a permit to install a shower.


Or that supposed $5,000 government hammer or toilet seat.
 
2012-06-19 11:48:21 AM

wildcardjack: I did google it and I still didn't know what it was. I've been watching QT and Racetrack gas stations morph into deli's and coffee shops, but you're saying Wawa started off as deli's and are turning into convenience stores.


Actually, they started as a dairy, and they still sell the best milk in the area (though they are no longer in the dairy business). Then they expanded into Turkey Hill-style deli/shops.

Recently, they changed their game plan, started selling gas and started closing stores which didn't have gas pumps. They use gas as something of a loss leader and make profits off sandwiches, coffee, etc.

They're constantly innovating and trying new ideas, and they're a really great company to work for.

I'd love to invest in them, but they're completely family-owned.
 
2012-06-19 11:48:30 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: s2s2s2: Corvus: Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"

It was "wat?" and you knew what I meant. You made that clear by correcting me:

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

I've explained myself.

could you two just fark and get it over with


Heh. They're arguing about whether they speak English in Wat.
 
2012-06-19 11:48:32 AM

s2s2s2: Corvus: Then maybe you should actually use English and explain yourself instead of saying something stupid and unclear like "wut?"

It was "wat?" and you knew what I meant. You made that clear by correcting me:

Corvus: From the guy who spells "what" "wat".

I've explained myself.


You won. You ignored the point I was making and didn't have to respond by making this a BS argument about English semantics.

Now statement can't have multiple contexts because someone spelled a word wrong in your mind.
 
2012-06-19 11:53:03 AM

Bloody William: It reeks of hearsay. Like a friend who had to spend $10,000 on a permit to install a shower.


Well, of course. Everyone knows "hearsay" means "It happened in France."

Just kidding, they don't have shower permits in France.
 
2012-06-19 11:53:14 AM
Can someone... you know... write an actual farking article anymore? Retweets with commentary? Links to shiatty blogs for dysfunctional people?

I hadn't even *heard* of this story, and frankly, I'M amazed by WaWa. When they started installing POS systems AT THE GAS PUMPS? Mind-blow. It's just a convenience store, but it's probably the most convenient of them.

But I read, seriously read, the HotAir article, the Twitchy "article", and the Instapundit article and I still don't know what the FARK Romney actually said, and I don't understand why I should or shouldn't care.

It's like these people are speaking a different language that's composed of the same words I'm familiar with, arranged in a brand new syntax that only regulars can understand.
 
2012-06-19 11:53:34 AM

Satanic_Hamster:

I know, right? If a private vendor wants reimbursement from the government from services rendered, he should be able to just yell out into the air "Give me money, govmint!" and one of the governments traveling money fairies will rush into the store to give it to him.

It's bullshiat that the governemnt isn't just giving out money to job creators when they ask for it.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-19 11:54:07 AM

Crewmannumber6: Just as long as we're not talking about any actual issues


You mean like Donutgate?
 
2012-06-19 11:56:51 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Bloody William: You can't sell beer in convenience stores in Pennsylvania, so they have to make up for it by being AWESOME.

Believe it or not, there's a Wawa at 38th & Spruce on U Penn's campus that used to have a six-pack license. I used to buy beer there when I lived in West Philly.

Don't know if they lost it or gave it away, as it had to be a huge liability.


When was that? I've been working in and around 38th and Spruce for more than a decade and I never knew that. In fact, I'm just about to head out to Wawa to get a coffee (I go to the one on 36th and Chestnut for touchtone sammiches), so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-06-19 11:57:28 AM
Doubt breeds fanaticism. Nobody is a fanatic about the sun rising tomorrow; they just have certainty that it will rise tomorrow. The rabid, screeching fanaticism of the GOP toward Romney immediately after a self-destructive primary and month after month of trying to find anybody but him as their candidate belies their own serious doubts him.
 
2012-06-19 11:58:10 AM
/threadjack

Doctor Funkenstein you really should include a link to your tard zapping post in your profile. It's still hilarious.

/threadjack off
 
2012-06-19 11:58:28 AM

BeesNuts: But I read, seriously read, the HotAir article, the Twitchy "article", and the Instapundit article and I still don't know what the FARK Romney actually said, and I don't understand why I should or shouldn't care.


See, the mainstream liebral msm news media elites released a story saying that Romney was stunned by touchscreens at convenience stores.

In reality, Romney was stunned by touchetone screens at convenience stores because they are much more convenient than 33 pages of paperwork.

That's a HUGE difference.
 
2012-06-19 11:59:52 AM
Once again, so how did Romney modernize organization as Governor of Massachusetts like he pretend he would as president?

Oh wait he didn't.
 
2012-06-19 11:59:56 AM

Polyhazard: There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.


Yeah I don't believe it actually exists. When this is revealed, they will explain that Romney was just using hyperbole, and suggest that somewhere in government a 33 page document exists, so he was technically correct anyway.
 
2012-06-19 12:00:13 PM

NeoCortex42: Hey Mitt, it's Wawa, not Wawa's. You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's. There wasn't some dude named Wawa that started the company.


Ramney is like the 'tards who buy a "Ford's" car.
 
2012-06-19 12:01:35 PM

Muta: NeoCortex42: Hey Mitt, it's Wawa, not Wawa's. You sound like an idiot when you keep calling it Wawa's. There wasn't some dude named Wawa that started the company.

Ramney is like the 'tards who buy a "Ford's" car.


I wonder if instead of getting a sports car, he buys a car that's in sport.
 
2012-06-19 12:01:38 PM

jigger: Crewmannumber6: Just as long as we're not talking about any actual issues

You mean like Donutgate?


"I'm not sure about these cookies. They don't look like you made them. Did you make those cookies? You didn't, did you? No. No. They came from the local 7-Eleven bakery or wherever."

God, what an ass-hole.
 
2012-06-19 12:03:02 PM
I'm more impressed that WaWa just added avocado and pesto to their spreads list, and cucumber, spinach, jalapeno, pepperoni and carrot to their toppings list.

The POS system's old hat. Sheetz calls it "BTO" for Built to order. Which is ... something that everyone does.

Also more impressive about their business plan, is the retroactive upgrades. They try new ideas in new stores when they are built. Slight layout changes, slight UI changes to the POS system on a dedicated "experimental" server at headquarters, slight changes to the goods carried, new deals made with suppliers... etc.

Successful alterations are then implemented in every store that it's feasible to upgrade. When the POS systems were first introduced sometime in the late 90's, there was only one brand new WaWa near me that had it. 3 or 4 other WaWa's nearby, but none had that ordering screen Romney appears to be impressed by. Within the next 2 years, I couldn't find a WaWa without it.

ALSO impressive to me is the associate stock ownership. Work at WaWa for 5 years and your vested. You have a better retirement package working for WaWa that you do working for farking DuPont*.

/YMMV depending on level of education
 
2012-06-19 12:04:00 PM

vernonFL: [t2.gstatic.com image 238x179]

Remember when Hillary couldn't figure out the coffee machine?


Sure do! I didn't vote for the stupid biatch because of it.
 
2012-06-19 12:04:54 PM

sprawl15: BeesNuts: But I read, seriously read, the HotAir article, the Twitchy "article", and the Instapundit article and I still don't know what the FARK Romney actually said, and I don't understand why I should or shouldn't care.

See, the mainstream liebral msm news media elites released a story saying that Romney was stunned by touchscreens at convenience stores.

In reality, Romney was stunned by touchetone screens at convenience stores because they are much more convenient than 33 pages of paperwork.

That's a HUGE difference.


What? How is this thread 200 posts deep? I'm into navel-gazing as much as the next Farker, but seriously... Imma get me some lunch.

Maybe I'll go to wawa.
 
2012-06-19 12:05:13 PM

BeesNuts: I'm more impressed that WaWa just added avocado and pesto to their spreads list, and cucumber, spinach, jalapeno, pepperoni and carrot to their toppings list.


That would make for a farking disgusting coffee.
 
2012-06-19 12:07:04 PM

Mikey1969: Of course, either Mitt or the Optometrist are leaving out some major details here.


Like the fact that it is physically impossible to have a 33 page long change of address form?
 
2012-06-19 12:08:31 PM

Muta: vernonFL: [t2.gstatic.com image 238x179]

Remember when Hillary couldn't figure out the coffee machine?

Sure do! I didn't vote for the stupid biatch because of it.


If she's that bad with coffee, can her sandwich-making skills be any good?
 
2012-06-19 12:08:36 PM

sprawl15: BeesNuts: I'm more impressed that WaWa just added avocado and pesto to their spreads list, and cucumber, spinach, jalapeno, pepperoni and carrot to their toppings list.

That would make for a farking disgusting coffee.


Don't knock it til you try it. And their fresh made Jalapeno and Pesto Apple Fritters are to farking DIE for.

The WaWa brand lemonade-milk concoction, however, doesn't sit well with the mango infused hot dogs they also sell.
 
2012-06-19 12:09:00 PM

GAT_00: I see someone is going around and collecting all the shiatty Republican blogs and reporting the days talking point.


You should file a lawsuit claiming a violation of trademark. All they did was change the partisan lean. It's clear they're ripping you off.
 
2012-06-19 12:10:27 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Polyhazard: There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.

Yeah I don't believe it actually exists. When this is revealed, they will explain that Romney was just using hyperbole, and suggest that somewhere in government a 33 page document exists, so he was technically correct anyway.


You ever told a small child they need to sit in one place for 30 minutes? "It's been like 300 yeeeeeears!!!"

These are your supporters, Mitt Romney.
 
2012-06-19 12:12:24 PM

Dwight_Yeast: quantum_csc: zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.

Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.

Technically, it's not really a Blackberry. It's a secure, NSA-approved device issued to people with the highest level security clearance.


So, an Apple][ ?
 
2012-06-19 12:12:46 PM

Snarfangel: Bloody William: It reeks of hearsay. Like a friend who had to spend $10,000 on a permit to install a shower.

Well, of course. Everyone knows "hearsay" means "It happened in France."

Just kidding, they don't have shower permits in France.


/douche
 
2012-06-19 12:15:39 PM

There are a few different bloggers online who I follow who are attempting to contact this guy (the eye doc) and follow up, or at least someone else in his profession who can verify. Because a 33-page form for a simple change of address is unbelievable. Like, literally so, and calls for verification and/or clarification.

Most of us civilians have changed our address for the post office before. The form is the size of a postcard or you can do the whole damn thing online in under two minutes. It causes many of us to believe there is more to this story than is being pimped out RMoney Small Government Brigade.


I see you've never tried dealing with Medicaid or Medicare or the incredible amounts of redtape involved in dealing with them. The DMV and the post office are practically models of efficiencies in comparison.

Medical professionals have been complaining about this nonsense for *YEARS*, but any time attempts to modernize it or cut back on the redtape are made Democrats come screaming about pushing Grandma off a cliff in order to protect the massive number of government union employees that it takes to process all that redtape. But hey, it's won them a few elections and put a few more dollars in the union boss' back pocket, so what's a little red tape between friends, right? Those taxpayers are so stupid, we'll just scream about granny going off the cliff and they'll pony up more taxes to protect all those inefficiencies if anyone complains about it....Then we'll enlist some useful idiots to amplify it across the internet, and next thing you know - *BANG* - more money. Those dumbass working stiffs won't know the difference. We'll be out of office and sitting on fat pensions by the time they realize what has happened and the bill comes due. YAY!
 
2012-06-19 12:15:51 PM

jim_paul: Doctor Funkenstein: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

[smart stuff]

Hey moron.

dumb stuff about GOVERNMENT BAD BECASUE GOVERNEMT BAD


farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2012-06-19 12:18:03 PM

Corvus: So why didn't Romney fix these things as Governor in his state?

Anyone, anyone? Bueller?


Because he was a shiat governor.
 
2012-06-19 12:18:34 PM

Wulfman: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I mean... I passed through the East Coast before (and Ohio apparently?) and have probably stopped and, you know, gotten gas at one before. But the fact that my freakin' coworkers were okay with a gas station for a lunch break still amazes me.


I feel it is important to note that not all WaWas sell gas, and it was a successful chain long before any of the stores put in gas pumps. It's not lunch at a gas station. It's gas at a lunch station.


Or as I refer to it, a Quizno's with pumps.
 
2012-06-19 12:20:00 PM
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Oh noes! You got me! Your clever reposted repost of a reposted image is far too much superior argumentation to bear!
 
2012-06-19 12:28:13 PM

jim_paul: Doctor Funkenstein: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

I have no idea. The full video is more embarassing for Romney than the bits that were actually played on the news. He tells some BS story about an optometrist who was trying to "change his address" (no f'ing clue what he's talking about) so he can get payments from the federal government for work done on poor people and seniors. His main gripe is that the form is too long and it took too much time for the dude to get his totally not welfare cash from the gubmint. He then compares that to the awesomeness of private sector efficiency a la ordering a sandwich from a touchscreen at Wawas, which totally amazed him by his own words. And is totally comparable to a doctor requesting federal aid for services provided...because sandwich, I guess. The best I can make out of his message is that he thinks it should be way easier to get assistance from the federal government and that "touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick. I think it would be pretty funny if some major news outlet responded by saying, "We apologize for not showing the entire video of Romney talking about his sandwich at Wawas. Those who objected to it are correct that it did not accurately reflect the former Governor's message. Here's the whole thing. Look how dumb this bastard actually is."

Hey moron.

The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.

*THAT* is the point being made. The govern ...


Uh, how do you know? Romney's statement didn't come with a citation. Do you have one? Could it be that he's lying? I think he's lying.
 
2012-06-19 12:28:39 PM

Bloody William: Heh. They're arguing about whether they speak English in Wat.


I speak English wherever I am.
 
2012-06-19 12:30:38 PM
jim_paul:
Medical professionals have been complaining about this nonsense for *YEARS*, but any time attempts to modernize it or cut back on the redtape are made Democrats come screaming about pushing Grandma off a cliff in order to protect the massive number of government union employees that it takes to process all that redtape. But hey, it's won them a few elections and put a few more dollars in the union boss' back pocket, so what's a little red tape between friends, right? Those taxpayers are so stupid, we'll just scream about granny going off the cliff and they'll pony up more taxes to protect all those inefficiencies if anyone complains about it....Then we'll enlist some useful idiots to amplify it across the internet, and next thing you know - *BANG* - more money. Those dumbass working stiffs won't know the difference. We'll be out of office and sitting on fat pensions by the time they realize what has happened and the bill comes due. YAY!


You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?
 
2012-06-19 12:32:09 PM

jim_paul: The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.


So, which agency was this that requires a 33 page form for a change of address, exactly? Because right now, I give this about as much credence as all the stuff that Bachmann "heard".
 
2012-06-19 12:32:24 PM
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2012-06-19 12:35:19 PM

Sgt Otter: So he wasn't amazed by the existence of touch-screen technology, he was amazed that the private sector finally had the cutting-edge technology of a 1994-era Department of Motor Vehicles testing station.

Okay.


This.

Done in one.
 
2012-06-19 12:36:22 PM

Dwight_Yeast: wildcardjack: I did google it and I still didn't know what it was. I've been watching QT and Racetrack gas stations morph into deli's and coffee shops, but you're saying Wawa started off as deli's and are turning into convenience stores.

Actually, they started as a dairy, and they still sell the best milk in the area (though they are no longer in the dairy business). Then they expanded into Turkey Hill-style deli/shops.

Recently, they changed their game plan, started selling gas and started closing stores which didn't have gas pumps. They use gas as something of a loss leader and make profits off sandwiches, coffee, etc.

They're constantly innovating and trying new ideas, and they're a really great company to work for.

I'd love to invest in them, but they're completely family-owned.


Not completely family owned anymore. DuPont has a stake in them. According to my nephew's wife, Wawa is being used as a business model (to emulate) in her MBA program.
 
2012-06-19 12:36:29 PM

mat catastrophe: That's not an edit that changes the nature of what he said.

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I think we found the person responsible for making a simple address change form last 33 pages. ;)
 
2012-06-19 12:36:31 PM
I don't remember hearing about any of this, nor do I give the tiniest shiat, but I'm willing to make a wager that this is some ridiculous wignnut poutrage, and that subby's blog sucks.
 
2012-06-19 12:52:51 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: ..."touchtone screens" at Wawas are sweeter than a caramel covered Reagan dick.


I love you.
 
2012-06-19 12:58:52 PM

GAT_00: I see someone is going around and collecting all the shiatty Republican blogs and reporting the days talking point.


Dammit, you guys. Somebody farked up the kos narrative with facts.

Go find some more slick edited videos now. And, tell everybody what a scumbag that O'Keefe guy is while you are doing it.
 
2012-06-19 12:59:36 PM

Mikey1969: 33 page change of address form? Really? I have never filled out more than a single page.

Mow. I'm not sure how this equates to ordering a sandwich though. Sounds like he's comparing apples and Studebakers.


You don't have more than one address in more than one city in more than one country on more than one planet... or something.

Every time I watch this moran try to be "one of the guys", I almost feel bad for him... but my laughter gets in the way and I get over it. Where is the usual whining call of the "right wing dumbass" (eee-LEEETTT-issst! e-e-e-LEET-ist!)?

Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist", but the guy who was born with a platinum spoon up his ass and who probably hasn't shopped for food by himself in decades (don't servants shop for food? is that where it comes from?) if ever... isn't part of the elite.

Newsflash for republicans: Mittens Rmoney IS the elite. He's the type that trashed your 401(k)/IRA. He's the type that took your pension. He's they type that sent your job to India or China. And he's the type that gets insanely wealthy from your hard work, with no thanks for it but a swift kick in the ass to raise the value of their stock, taking your future with it.

Don't let your hatred of the black man in the white house blind you to those facts.
 
2012-06-19 01:01:35 PM

Polyhazard: mat catastrophe: That's not an edit that changes the nature of what he said.
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I think we found the person responsible for making a simple address change form last 33 pages. ;)


Was I overdoing it again? Sorry. I get so carried away.
 
2012-06-19 01:03:11 PM
Befuddled by wawa:
www.roaring-girl.com
 
2012-06-19 01:10:14 PM

rewind2846: Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist"


You think that description matches Obama's life!? That's so wrong it's funny.
 
2012-06-19 01:11:06 PM
NBC edited a tape to smear Romney?

Feels Romney's pain

www.trbimg.com
 
2012-06-19 01:11:57 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: rewind2846: Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist"

You think that description matches Obama's life!? That's so wrong it's funny.


Living up to your handle as usual, I see. Good jorb!
 
2012-06-19 01:14:59 PM
Wawa... that's the sound my head makes when I do nitrous.

/wawawawawawawawawawawawa
 
2012-06-19 01:16:34 PM
I only care about this story because it mentions Wawa. Now I want a stuffed pretzel.
 
2012-06-19 01:18:22 PM

wildcardjack: I've been a little out of touch on this one.

I thought he'd done a Bahbwa Wawa interview.

[www.biatchdujour.com image 314x235]

What sort of store is this Wawa anyhow? Anyone from the relevant turf got a comparison?


Try 7-11 for comparison.

Years ago, there was a book of annotated scripts from the first few seasons of SNL, and there was a great picture of Tom Schiller (who wrote the Baba Wawa pieces for Gilda Radner) playing an accordion in front of a Wawa store's sign for no good reason. I wanted to post it in this thread, but it's not on GIS, so...eh.
 
2012-06-19 01:19:59 PM

jim_paul: The government is incredibly wasteful and inefficient


fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net
 
MFK
2012-06-19 01:23:34 PM
Is this guy trying to say that when trying to get gubmint money, people should just be able to type a few things into a touchscreen and voila: no more bureaucracy?

Because that does sound like a "common sense" thing, except it leaves the door WIDE open for fraud and abuse.
 
2012-06-19 01:27:06 PM

skullkrusher: Wawa... that's the sound my head makes when I do nitrous.

/wawawawawawawawawawawawa


So long as you don't hear the EEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... you're doin' good.

/Fun fact- WaWa's name comes from The Song of Haiawatha, which refrences the Chippewa indian's word for "wild goose"
//chestercountyconsumer.com
 
2012-06-19 01:28:40 PM

MFK: Is this guy trying to say that when trying to get gubmint money, people should just be able to type a few things into a touchscreen and voila: no more bureaucracy?

Because that does sound like a "common sense" thing, except it leaves the door WIDE open for fraud and abuse.


In Medicare? Impossible!

And I still want to know what form this was.
 
2012-06-19 01:33:15 PM
You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.
 
2012-06-19 01:34:41 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: rewind2846: Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist"

You think that description matches Obama's life!? That's so wrong it's funny.


Did you trip and hit your head getting off that short bus today? Didn't your mom warn you that Mr. Helmet is your friend?
 
2012-06-19 01:37:45 PM

jim_paul: Here's the form he's talking about.


The word "address" does not appear on that page.
 
2012-06-19 01:41:45 PM

rewind2846:

Newsflash for republicans: Mittens Rmoney IS the elite. He's the type that trashed your 401(k)/IRA. He's the type that took your pension. He's they type that sent your job to India or China. And he's the type that gets insanely wealthy from your hard work, with no thanks for it but a swift kick in the ass to raise the value of their stock, taking your future with it.


If I'm a bondholder for GM who got screwed over when Obama handed it to the Unions, do I still blame Romney? Cause they all got farked.

I'm pretty sure Romey didn't personally trash my 401k or take my pension though. It is pretty funny how you group every "elite" into one group, especially after criticizing potential racists for doing the some thing.
 
2012-06-19 01:42:34 PM

jules_siegel: jim_paul: The government is incredibly wasteful and inefficient

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I'd love to see one of these for a ridiculously overpaid Blackwater operator versus an enlisted U.S. Army soldier doing the same job.
 
2012-06-19 01:44:48 PM

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.


That would be an enrollment form, not a change of address form. In fact, it appears to be 6 different enrollment forms.
 
2012-06-19 01:46:11 PM

s2s2s2: His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.


It's also bullcrap. There is no 33 page form. It's just another Romney lie. And not just a lie, an obvious and transparently stupid lie, made up and unapologetically spewed out to the "gubmint BAAADDD" teabagger morons who lap that shiat up like a retard eating his own snot.
 
2012-06-19 01:49:11 PM

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.


28 pp --//-- 33pp
Enrollment --//-- change of address

So yes. You're lying. but thanks for trying.
 
2012-06-19 01:50:42 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: s2s2s2: His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.

It's also bullcrap. There is no 33 page form. It's just another Romney lie. And not just a lie, an obvious and transparently stupid lie, made up and unapologetically spewed out to the "gubmint BAAADDD" teabagger morons who lap that shiat up like a retard eating his own snot.


The fact that there is no 33 page form is central to their point.
 
2012-06-19 01:51:07 PM
I think "jim_paul" is obtusely referring to form CMS-855I, which is the full enrollment application for Medicare providing physicians, and is 28 pages. I believe the form to change your address or update your information would be the following 6 page form:

https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/CMS-Forms/CMS-Forms/Downloads/CMS10114.p d f

It's almost like he's lying on purpose to support his point of view! or intentionally lazy. Like linking to a page full of forms and saying "here's the form!"

His concern has been noted.
 
2012-06-19 01:54:03 PM

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.


That's an enrollment application. So if that is in fact the correct form, the situation would be exactly what I said earlier, changing the address on the existing paperwork and resubmitting it. If he, as an enrolled Medicare provider, didn't save a copy of his original enrollment application and actually had to start over, then he's a dumbass.
 
2012-06-19 01:54:38 PM

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration.


cache.ohinternet.com

Dishonest winger is dishonest.
 
2012-06-19 01:55:40 PM

s2s2s2: I speak English wherever I am.


Wat?

s2s2s2: "Heil Effective Communication!"

 
2012-06-19 01:56:01 PM

jim_paul: Hey moron.

The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.

*THAT* is the point being made.


TheAnalogKid: I think "jim_paul" is obtusely referring to form CMS-855I, which is the full enrollment application for Medicare providing physicians, and is 28 pages. I believe the form to change your address or update your information would be the following 6 page form:


lol, conservatives. Bad at everything.
 
2012-06-19 01:58:13 PM

rewind2846: and who probably hasn't shopped for food by himself in decades (don't servants shop for food? is that where it comes from?) if ever... isn't part of the elite.


Yeah, I've been wondering who buys their food, same with all of the uber-millionaires out there. Jeez, must be nice to be a personal assistant. Even nicer to HAVE one.
 
2012-06-19 01:58:13 PM

jim_paul: You seem to know a lot about this issue. What is the name of the 33-page form being referenced? Do you know where I can view a copy?

Here's the form he's talking about.

The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.

So no. He's not lying. But thanks for asking.

(and this includes Job Creator and HeartburnKid)

Your concern is noted.


Huh. I'm no Medicare lawyer, but it looks like that gets you in the system, while this (PDF warning) is the form to update your address. It's 6 pages long, and a full half of those pages are taken up by the Privacy Policy.

If you're like me and like to do things online, you can view and update your info at the agency's online portal. This site does not have its own touch-screen UI, however, so clearly the sandwich machine should already be president.
 
2012-06-19 01:58:34 PM

rewind2846: Big_Fat_Liar: rewind2846: Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist"

You think that description matches Obama's life!? That's so wrong it's funny.

Did you trip and hit your head getting off that short bus today? Didn't your mom warn you that Mr. Helmet is your friend?


I have a policy.

Don't make fun of a person with TBI.

Served me well so far.
 
2012-06-19 01:59:28 PM
And look how Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney modernized the Mass. "RMV".

christinelaubenstein.files.wordpress.com

Oh wait he didn't.
 
2012-06-19 02:00:03 PM
I still don't see how Wawa is more efficient than the government. It took me 325 pages of forms to order a sandwich and apply for a franchise.

/Not intended to be a factual statement
 
2012-06-19 02:02:03 PM

TheAnalogKid: I think "jim_paul" is obtusely referring to form CMS-855I, which is the full enrollment application for Medicare providing physicians, and is 28 pages. I believe the form to change your address or update your information would be the following 6 page form:

https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/CMS-Forms/CMS-Forms/Downloads/CMS10114.p d f

It's almost like he's lying on purpose to support his point of view! or intentionally lazy. Like linking to a page full of forms and saying "here's the form!"

His concern has been noted.


You mean his comparison was complete bullshiat? *boggle*
 
2012-06-19 02:04:44 PM

TheAnalogKid: I believe the form to change your address or update your information would be the following 6 page form:


Which is actually a 3 page form with 3 pages of notes.

So Romney may have only exaggerated by 1000% to make his "point."

Trolls I get, this is the only joy in their pathetic lives.
Why anyone else would carry this asshole's water is a mystery to me.
 
2012-06-19 02:08:15 PM

Job Creator:
28 pp --//-- 33pp
Enrollment --//-- change of address

So yes. You're lying. but thanks for trying.


You're an idiot.

Also an ignoramus.

The same form is used to update registrations.

It's not my fault you have no clue how to file Medicare paperwork.
 
2012-06-19 02:09:20 PM

Job Creator: Dishonest winger is dishonest.


Once again, you prove your ignorance.

Changing your address *DOES REQUIRE* updating your registration, moron.
 
2012-06-19 02:14:35 PM
Once again, you ignore the link showing the proper form
 
2012-06-19 02:25:00 PM

Job Creator: Once again, you ignore the link showing the proper form


So much this. The entire thing is six pages, most of which are instructions.

From the instructions:
2.
Change of Information If changing information,check box #2, write your NPI in the space provided, and provide the add/replace information within the appropriate section. If you are adding information, please check the 'Add Information' box and fill out the appropriate section(s) with the information you are adding. If you are replacing information, please check the 'Replace Information' box and fill out the appropriate section(s) with the replaced information. See the instructions in Section 4, then sign and date the certification statement in Section 4A or 4B. All changes must be reported to the NPI Enumerator within 30 days of the change. It is not necessary to complete sections that are not being changed; however, please ensure that your NPI is legible and correct. Complete Section 5 so that we may contact you in the event of problems processing this form. Please note that some changes, such as a change to a health care provider's date of birth, require a photocopy


If the guy was just updating his address, all he had to do was check a box and write his address on the form. That's it. If he actually filled out 33 pages then he was doing something entirely different. So, he either didn't tell Mitt the whole story or the Romneybot made it up.
 
2012-06-19 02:25:33 PM

jim_paul: Job Creator: Dishonest winger is dishonest.

Once again, you prove your ignorance.

Changing your address *DOES REQUIRE* updating your registration, moron.


Once again, even IF that is the correct form, as an enrolled Medicare provider, he should have a copy of his existing registration. Open file, delete address, type in new address, save as new filename, and either submit electronically or print and mail. It's not that f*cking complicated.
 
2012-06-19 02:27:16 PM

jim_paul: The form itself is 28 pages long, and it is required to apply or update your registration. I would guess that instructions would be the balance of the 33 pages he's talking about.


You know what the difference is between you and a moron? Even a moron would be smart enough to actually open the link you provided and SEE if instructions "balanced out " the 33 pages he's talking about. You, on the other hand, thought it might be OK to just "guess." The document you linked to is 29 pages. The first is the cover sheet. Pages 1, 2, 3, 12, 23, and 24 are instructions, rules, etc. So no, not 33 pages, even if you include the instructions, warnings, rules, and even the cover page.

And looking at the remaining 22 pages, that actually have questions, there's several interesting items of note. They include pages like page 8, which contains a SINGLE question asking the the applicant to check a single box indicating their medical specialty from a rather extensive list.

A similar page is page 3, which also contains ONE single question that requires the applicant to check off a single box from six choices indicating why you are submitting this form. Actually, this page doesn't even contain all six choices - it only has the first 4, the remainder are on the next page. Even better, If you select "change of address", it instructs you that the only other thing you need to fill out is a single small section on the bottom of page 6 with the new address, phone and fax number. That's it. 30 seconds of work for anyone who is not a sub-literate teabagging moron.

SO yeah, the "33 page long form" turns out to be 29 pages, 7 of which are instructions and regulations, and the remainder of which are not only not required ion every case, but which consist of more than a few cases of one or two questions per page. yeah, very onerous. Very inefficient. Very complicated. If you're an idiot. Or a teabagger.

Of course, if the Change of Address had been a separate, single page form, the doctor and his teabagger buddies would have been pissing and moaning about the stunning inefficiency of having to choose from among a dozen different forms every time they want to communicate with the agency and "why can't they combine it all into one form for efficiency blah blah blah taxed enough already..."
 
2012-06-19 02:30:09 PM

jim_paul: Job Creator: Dishonest winger is dishonest.

Once again, you prove your ignorance.

Changing your address *DOES REQUIRE* updating your registration, moron.


Romney is playing you for a fool. He would not defend this as far as you have. Why do you think he presented it as something he was told? Why do you think he talks to his audiences like they are first-graders? He doesn't respect them and he doesn't respect YOU. As far as he's concerned, any old bullsh*t will do for you fools.

Go ahead and attack Obama. Go ahead and defend Romney's policies, if you can find one. But as a campaigner, he's just a chronic liar. And he's making a liar out of you.
 
2012-06-19 02:33:35 PM
hmm, where did he go?
 
2012-06-19 02:33:41 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Romney is playing you for a fool. He would not defend this as far as you have. Why do you think he presented it as something he was told? Why do you think he talks to his audiences like they are first-graders?


Because in many cases, that's the upper limit of their thinking process when it comes to political issues.
 
2012-06-19 02:34:02 PM
It's amusing to me that people who are want to purge the voter rolls of anyone who's ever moved their residence are outraged at the thought of a doctor filling out a form before receiving medicare dollars.
 
2012-06-19 02:34:55 PM
Ok, that sentence made no sense, and I would like to take it out back and shoot it.
 
2012-06-19 02:36:02 PM

what_now: It's amusing to me that people who are want to purge the voter rolls of anyone who's ever moved their residence are outraged at the thought of a doctor filling out a form before receiving medicare dollars.


Well of course- most of the people they are trying to purge are blah people, not like the nice old doctor.
 
2012-06-19 02:37:06 PM

jim_paul: image

Oh noes! You got me! Your clever reposted repost of a reposted image is far too much superior argumentation to bear!


And yet, it does not appear to have helped. Have another.

farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-06-19 02:38:01 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: exick: Doctor Funkenstein: "touchtone screens" at Wawas

haha, god I really hope he said touchtone screens.

Oh, dude. I watched the whole video. He totally said that. It's hilarious.


The rotary Wawa screens sucked, because the monitors kept falling over.

I should add that there was a Wawa on my campus in grad school, and they put in those screens sometime between 2004 when I left, and 2009 when I came back for a conference. So Romney is wowing at something that's at least 3 years old for Wawa, and older for other convenience stores, like Sheetz.

/Wawa also invented the chicken pizza cheesesteak, and I'm amazed nobody is talking about that particular innovation.
//I said CHICKEN. PIZZA. CHEESESTEAK.
 
2012-06-19 02:38:33 PM

Jjaro:
I'm pretty sure Romey didn't personally trash my 401k or take my pension though. It is pretty funny how you group every "elite" into one group, especially after criticizing potential racists for doing the some thing.


Race is not a choice. Being an asshole in a $1000 suit most definitely is a choice. And people who vote against their own best interests for a guy who wouldn't piss out his $300 a bottle cognac on them if they were on fire is a really, really stupid choice.

And ya know what? F*ck a bondholder. When you buy a bond it's just like any other investment... it's a gamble. You're gambling. And when you gamble, there a chance you can lose.
You want to b*tch at someone, b*tch at the executives that cut so many farking corners in engineering, in materials, and in overall quality (none of which is the responsibility of the unions - they just make and assemble the parts according to the engineers specs) that GM and the other american car makers went straight to sh*t. It's their fault the company had to be bailed out in the first place.

They're elites as well, only concerned with the next quarter or next stock quote instead of the long term health of the company. Of course you don't worry about having to jump when you've got that golden parachute, but for those people in the trenches who don't, the ground comes up real fast. RMoney may not have personally signed away your retirement with his own hand, but someone just like him did. F*ck'em all.
 
2012-06-19 02:39:15 PM

what_now: Ok, that sentence made no sense, and I would like to take it out back and shoot it.


I think I caught it though. You're saying that if the cats aren't asleep then how can the sunrise fling open the shutters to our children's future prosperity. Right?
 
2012-06-19 02:42:57 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Of course, if the Change of Address had been a separate, single page form, the doctor and his teabagger buddies would have been pissing and moaning about the stunning inefficiency of having to choose from among a dozen different forms every time they want to communicate with the agency and "why can't they combine it all into one form for efficiency blah blah blah taxed enough already..."


Job Creator: the proper form


Hah, I stand corrected, apparently using the full application form to change your address, while acceptable, is also optional.

So, I was wrong - the presence of a short, simple, change of address form did not result in the teabagger morons complaining about the inefficiency of multiple forms, it simply resulted in them pretending the shorter, simpler form didn't even exist, and insisting on using the the unnecessary longer application.

And then complaining about how stupid and unnecessary it is.
 
2012-06-19 02:43:13 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: s2s2s2: His point was that a 33 page form to change an address, and a helpline that can't help(though it could have been the Dr's fault, and not the public drone's fault) is inefficient.

It's also bullcrap. There is no 33 page form. It's just another Romney lie. And not just a lie, an obvious and transparently stupid lie, made up and unapologetically spewed out to the "gubmint BAAADDD" teabagger morons who lap that shiat up like a retard eating his own snot.


I didn't say he was right about anything.
 
2012-06-19 02:44:51 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Even better, If you select "change of address", it instructs you that the only other thing you need to fill out is a single small section on the bottom of page 6 with the new address, phone and fax number. That's it. 30 seconds of work for anyone who is not a sub-literate teabagging moron.


WHY IS MY LOCAL THAI PLACE SO INEFFICIENT? ALL I WANTED WAS TO PLACE A PICK-UP ORDER AND I HAD TO WADE THROUGH THOUSANDS OF YELLOW PAGES.
 
2012-06-19 02:46:51 PM

kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?


Now, hang on, left-wing blogs are NOT UPSET about this one? Why?

It works both ways genius.
 
2012-06-19 02:49:25 PM

Dr. Mojo PhD: WHY IS MY LOCAL THAI PLACE SO INEFFICIENT? ALL I WANTED WAS TO PLACE A PICK-UP ORDER AND I HAD TO WADE THROUGH THOUSANDS OF YELLOW PAGES.


that's racist
 
2012-06-19 02:58:50 PM
Seriously, if this is the best conservatives can come up with to fight back on their candidate passionately refusing to take a position on just about any topic this week... well, you keep on that inexorable march to failure, I didn't like him anyways.
 
2012-06-19 03:00:51 PM

randomjsa: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

Now, hang on, left-wing blogs are NOT UPSET about this one? Why?

It works both ways genius.


Only if you let facts get in the way. I'm not upset that the un-edited Rmoney looks more stupid than the edited Rmoney.
 
2012-06-19 03:03:36 PM

randomjsa: Now, hang on, left-wing blogs are NOT UPSET about this one? Why?


Cuz it didn't go viral and aside from some Farkers, a few msnbc viewers and the right-wing blogosphere nobody knew about it.

Thanks to the butt-hurt right catapulting their propaganda, though, now everyone can see that, once again, Romney is a lying sack of Mitt.

So, thanks!
 
2012-06-19 03:08:21 PM
also, who the fark has 60 accounts which need change of address?
 
2012-06-19 03:15:50 PM

Dwight_Yeast: quantum_csc: zipdog: We have the nerve to call Romney out of touch with modern technology yet Obama still uses a Blackberry.

Likely because a BlackBerry is still more secure than an Android or iOS device.

Technically, it's not really a Blackberry. It's a secure, NSA-approved device issued to people with the highest level security clearance.


Awesome article; thanks for the link.
 
2012-06-19 03:20:24 PM

TheAnalogKid: also, who the fark has 60 accounts which need change of address?


Chronic masturbators.
 
2012-06-19 03:26:44 PM

randomjsa: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

Now, hang on, left-wing blogs are NOT UPSET about this one? Why?

It works both ways genius.


Not really, "genius".

See, if right-wingers engage left-wingers with edited video, then doing it to them in return serves the course of justice. As I definitively proved, Mitt Romney believes in karmic, retributive justice, and has in fact subjected Obama to this kind of selective editing himself, and attempted to justify it.

There's nothing for left-wing blogs to be upset about, because it serves the course of justice, and not only does it serve the course of justice, it serves Romney's own definition of the course of justice -- "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander". Well, he's the gander this time. Karma's a biatch, and this is what happens when you invoke it to justify your lying; you get brutalized by the world you sought to create when you lose control over it.

So, no, it doesn't cut both ways, retard. Now answer the question: Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?
 
2012-06-19 03:44:06 PM

Dr. Mojo PhD: randomjsa: kingoomieiii: Oh, so the right-wing media found another edited tape?

Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?

Now, hang on, left-wing blogs are NOT UPSET about this one? Why?

It works both ways genius.

Not really, "genius".

See, if right-wingers engage left-wingers with edited video, then doing it to them in return serves the course of justice. As I definitively proved, Mitt Romney believes in karmic, retributive justice, and has in fact subjected Obama to this kind of selective editing himself, and attempted to justify it.

There's nothing for left-wing blogs to be upset about, because it serves the course of justice, and not only does it serve the course of justice, it serves Romney's own definition of the course of justice -- "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander". Well, he's the gander this time. Karma's a biatch, and this is what happens when you invoke it to justify your lying; you get brutalized by the world you sought to create when you lose control over it.

So, no, it doesn't cut both ways, retard. Now answer the question: Now, hang on, right-wing blogs are UPSET about this one? Why?


Because being upset about this is the only thing they can talk about, given that Romney is having another week in which he refuses to take a position on anything.
 
2012-06-19 03:45:24 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TheAnalogKid: I believe the form to change your address or update your information would be the following 6 page form:

Which is actually a 3 page form with 3 pages of notes.


Which is actually a 2 page form with three pages of notes and one page requiring a single signature certifying that it is all true under penalty of perjury etc.
 
2012-06-19 03:48:57 PM

rewind2846: Jjaro:
I'm pretty sure Romey didn't personally trash my 401k or take my pension though. It is pretty funny how you group every "elite" into one group, especially after criticizing potential racists for doing the some thing.

Race is not a choice. Being an asshole in a $1000 suit most definitely is a choice. And people who vote against their own best interests for a guy who wouldn't piss out his $300 a bottle cognac on them if they were on fire is a really, really stupid choice.

And ya know what? F*ck a bondholder. When you buy a bond it's just like any other investment... it's a gamble. You're gambling. And when you gamble, there a chance you can lose.
You want to b*tch at someone, b*tch at the executives that cut so many farking corners in engineering, in materials, and in overall quality (none of which is the responsibility of the unions - they just make and assemble the parts according to the engineers specs) that GM and the other american car makers went straight to sh*t. It's their fault the company had to be bailed out in the first place.

They're elites as well, only concerned with the next quarter or next stock quote instead of the long term health of the company. Of course you don't worry about having to jump when you've got that golden parachute, but for those people in the trenches who don't, the ground comes up real fast. RMoney may not have personally signed away your retirement with his own hand, but someone just like him did. F*ck'em all.


The executives who cut corners at the auto industries sucked at their job, and it clearly showed. Lumping in successful businessmen in with them just reveals you to be anti-success and essentially anti-capitalism. There are plenty of companies, in fact most of the successful ones, that have rich executives that do care more about the long term health of their company, including Romney. Which is why Bain Capital is still doing well and didn't require a government bailout.

And yes, buying a bond carries a risk, but when the government tramples the legal rights of the bondholders,-http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/model _corruption_ttyHIpNuoQRwVTkBZuhHeM - its completely different and there is no validation for it. I understand the people who are upset at the GM and Chrysler executives, but you carry some sort of hatred towards people who are just more successful than you.
 
2012-06-19 03:54:45 PM

Dr. Mojo PhD: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Even better, If you select "change of address", it instructs you that the only other thing you need to fill out is a single small section on the bottom of page 6 with the new address, phone and fax number. That's it. 30 seconds of work for anyone who is not a sub-literate teabagging moron.

WHY IS MY LOCAL THAI PLACE SO INEFFICIENT? ALL I WANTED WAS TO PLACE A PICK-UP ORDER AND I HAD TO WADE THROUGH THOUSANDS OF YELLOW PAGES.


The irony, of course, is that the douchebag who complained about it is a doctor.

ALL I WANTED WAS AN EYE EXAM, BUT I HAD TO FILL OUT EIGHT PAGES OF MEDICAL HISTORY, PATIENT INFORMATION, INSURANCE INFORMATION, PRIVACY NOTICES, AND SPOUSAL INFORMATION SHARING AUTHORIZATIONS!

Though I suspect that the doctor in question only makes patients fill out all those burdensome forms because of onerous and unnecessary government regulations. I imagine his operation would be much easier and cheaper (savings which he would surely pass on to his patients!) if he could simply have them sign a short simple waiver of liability instead. FREE MARKET fark YEAH
 
2012-06-19 03:56:34 PM
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Jjaro: sort of hatred towards people who are just more successful born with more money than you

 
2012-06-19 04:24:38 PM

BMulligan: The Homer Tax: I thought Pajamas Media had their own icon on this site? What's with all the links to them hiding behind "Some Guy" these days?

Yeah, that was my question, too.


Whichever mod is approving these links to this POS blog under the 'Some Guy' cover needs their groin to be introduced to an immovable object repeatedly. It's transparent and stupid. Stop it.
 
Bf+
2012-06-19 04:26:12 PM
Of course he was amazed with the easy-to-use touch-tone order device.
It's a lot easier than using an Etch-a-Sketch, after all.
 
2012-06-19 04:26:58 PM
"Some Guy" == Pajamas Media SuckBlog
 
2012-06-19 04:48:17 PM

BuckTurgidson: "Some Guy" == Pajamas Media SuckBlog


be that as it may, Mitchell's report on it was bogus
 
2012-06-19 05:04:51 PM
halfof33, could you clear something up for me? did someone lie? was it MSNBC?
 
2012-06-19 05:06:03 PM

lysdexic: slowclap.gif

Jjaro: sort of hatred towards people who are just more successful born with more money than you


The money he was born with did not make his time at Bain a success. But he was born wealthy so nothing he does will impress you, will it?
 
2012-06-19 05:08:18 PM

Jjaro: The money he was born with did not make his time at Bain a success.


It sure as hell got his foot in the door.
 
2012-06-19 05:21:41 PM

HeartBurnKid: Jjaro: The money he was born with did not make his time at Bain a success.

It sure as hell got his foot in the door.


Well no shiat. But he took full advantage of it. That's what happens when previous generations of one's family works hard-they provide a greater opportunity for their kids and grandkids.
 
2012-06-19 05:30:53 PM
"Romney was restless for a company of his own to run, and in 1983, Bill Bain offered him the chance to head a new venture that would buy into companies, have them benefit from Bain techniques, and then reap higher rewards than consulting fees. He initially refrained from accepting the offer, and Bain re-arranged the terms in a complicated partnership structure so that there was no financial or professional risk to Romney."
 
2012-06-19 05:35:31 PM

Jjaro: But he was born wealthy so nothing he does will impress you, will it?


...if what he did at Bain impresses you, you should probably get new priorities. and out more.
 
2012-06-19 05:56:35 PM

Jjaro: I understand the people who are upset at the GM and Chrysler executives, but you carry some sort of hatred towards people who are just more successful than you.


If by "successful" you mean "going through life with almost enough security to protect the president because so many people hate my farking guts and want me dead", then no - I'm not as successful as they are. I hope I never will be, either.

I have a good home, a decent job, money in the bank, and most of all there will be people who will be sad that I'm gone crying at my gravesite instead of pissing in the hole. I'd say that's pretty damn good, and I'm satisfied with the situation.

That's the difference here... most of the people whose sack you're swinging on A) wouldn't give a sh*t about you if you were Charmin toilet tissue, and B) after a certain level it's not about money, it's about power. When your life gets to that place, you have crossed over into a state of mind that drops you out of humanity. Not a place I'd want to be.

I have no "hatred" toward people like these, what I despise is what they do to others in their lust for power, their greed and avarice, and their lack of conscience or empathy in their pursuit for more more more.
 
2012-06-19 06:21:43 PM

rewind2846: Big_Fat_Liar: rewind2846: Strange that the same asswipes that had the nerve to call a biracial guy that came from a broken home and earned his way through both college and law school at the top of his class an "elitist"

You think that description matches Obama's life!? That's so wrong it's funny.

Did you trip and hit your head getting off that short bus today? Didn't your mom warn you that Mr. Helmet is your friend?


You provides links to his grades in college or law school and I'll suck your dick. You'd like that.
 
2012-06-19 06:24:41 PM
You know, it's not amazing that they did this, MSNBC is so in the bag for Obama, there's no telling what they might try to pull. Wha is amazing is, in this age of instant news, in this age where EVERYBODY has a video capable phone, in this age of facebook, twitter, blogs and such. They were stupid enough to think they could actually get away with this. Talk about people not in touch with the real world...
 
2012-06-19 06:32:28 PM

Mildot: You know, it's not amazing that they did this, MSNBC is so in the bag for Obama, there's no telling what they might try to pull. Wha is amazing is, in this age of instant news, in this age where EVERYBODY has a video capable phone, in this age of facebook, twitter, blogs and such. They were stupid enough to think they could actually get away with this. Talk about people not in touch with the real world...


Nice attempt at spin to reflect a common criticism of Romney onto somebody else. Too bad I already proved that what really happened is Romney's common method of criticism reflect back on himself.
 
2012-06-19 06:52:33 PM

Diogenes: Mitt was contrasting the ridiculous over-regulation of the public sector, with the efficiency of the private sector, and used the electronic ordering system at WAWAs as an example

Accepting this for a moment, I say it's still a dumb and simplistic analogy. But dumb and simplistic is consistent with his positions on other issues. And god knows the man lacks consistency.


The California Business Change of Address form is one page long. Not 33 pages. The state of Wisconsin doesn't even HAVE a form, they have a checkbox on the state income tax form that lets you do it.

So either he is out of touch with the over-regulation of the public sector, or he's lying.
 
2012-06-19 07:11:32 PM

Big_Fat_Liar:
You provides links to his grades in college or law school and I'll suck your dick. You'd like that.


That's okay, I don't roll like that... but to each their own.
/NTTAWWT
 
2012-06-19 07:35:37 PM

Mildot: You know, it's not amazing that they did this, MSNBC is so in the bag for Obama, there's no telling what they might try to pull. Wha is amazing is, in this age of instant news, in this age where EVERYBODY has a video capable phone, in this age of facebook, twitter, blogs and such. They were stupid enough to think they could actually get away with this. Talk about people not in touch with the real world...


They're the liberal response to FoxNews... you know, catapult the propoganda... you talk about things everyone says you can't get away with, but how many conservatives still think Obama went on an apology tour, how many think he was born in Kenya, how many think that the stimulus bill was a welfare package not a tax cut package, how many think that the ACA was a tax hike, not a tax cut for small businesses... the idea that newstainment industries won't get away with lying is laughable... plenty of lies will be told, and plenty of people who want to believe will believe them... either way, the veracity of this story (or lack there of) still doesn't bolster Romney's constant effort that he understands what it's like to be a regular joe... he jokes about unemployment while millions live through it... his wife talks about how I should go horseback riding for my MS though I can't even afford drugs, the undoing of Romney will not be the media, but Romney himself. Nobody is even paying attention to this story because he keeps on throwing the media better bones by hemming and hawing about the DREAM act and how he'd do something differently, but he doesn't know what, about how his previous promise to veto the DREAM act was actually about an Eric Clapton reunion, and the fun that is watching the guy passionately refuse to take a position, any position, on what he would actually do if elected.

Let me explain it in pictures, so it's a bit more comprehensible for the rest of Romney's fan base:

MSNBC story:
oddculture.com
Not an actual problem, not a real threat... pretty much a non-story.

What Romney himself has done to his credibility this week:
www.puntlandpost.com
Actual problem, not imaginary, going to sink numbers with moderates as though he were Edward Smith himself.

The reality is that it's going to be hard to change the storyline to one about media bias as long as Romney himself keeps f'ing up so regularly.
 
2012-06-19 09:54:16 PM

atomsmoosher: When was that? I've been working in and around 38th and Spruce for more than a decade and I never knew that. In fact, I'm just about to head out to Wawa to get a coffee (I go to the one on 36th and Chestnut for touchtone sammiches), so I'm getting a kick...


They had it until the late 90s, which is when I moved out of West Philly. The cases were along the back wall of the store, and they'd lock them up at 2:00AM. Somewhere around 2000, they renovated the store, but I don't know exactly when; that store is still pretty ghetto.

The store at 36th & Chestnut has always been much nicer; when I was very young my father and I would walk down the 36th St hill from our house to that store to get milk.
 
2012-06-20 01:13:03 AM

Gyrfalcon: Diogenes: Mitt was contrasting the ridiculous over-regulation of the public sector, with the efficiency of the private sector, and used the electronic ordering system at WAWAs as an example

Accepting this for a moment, I say it's still a dumb and simplistic analogy. But dumb and simplistic is consistent with his positions on other issues. And god knows the man lacks consistency.

The California Business Change of Address form is one page long. Not 33 pages. The state of Wisconsin doesn't even HAVE a form, they have a checkbox on the state income tax form that lets you do it.

So either he is out of touch with the over-regulation of the public sector, or he's lying.


Gosh, I wonder which it could be.

Hang on a tick... here's an idea - why can't it be both? Thus:
1) He personally remains completely disconnected from and utterly incurious about the experiences of non-multimillionaires and hasn't the first realistic clue what the actual regulatory burden on ordinary businesspersons is like (clue: STFU, fill out a few forms like an adult and get on with your business, it's not that big a deal)
AAaaaaAAANd:
2) He dutifully parrots phrases he knows were created with no intention of describing reality, but (again as he fully knows) are intended to obfuscate reality while triggering carefully-prepared emotional responses.
 
2012-06-20 05:51:04 AM
People keep asking what Romney did to modernize the state he was the governor in....my how quickly you folks forget. Romney care! you know, the thing that that follower (not leader) Obama based his Obamacare off of? showing that clearly Romney is a forward thinking leader, while Obama...isnt.

Actually to be fair, he did kinda think of it first, sadly his base wants to lynch him for it. On the other hand it makes me wonder....is he just lying to the R's to get elected, or is he lying to everyone about his intentions? My guess is everyone...but at least there is some hope.
 
2012-06-20 07:44:27 AM

jim_paul: The optometrist had to file a 33-page form for *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS*. By any measure that's moronic incompetence on the part of the federal government to require a 33 page form where a simple phone call or a 1 page letter should have sufficed - and would have done so *ANYWHERE* outside the federal government. With all my various personal and business bank and credit accounts, I was able to change the addresses for more than 60 accounts in a single day *ONLINE* when I moved.


Hey Moron.

Considering the incidence of Medicare fraud by medical professionals, any required paperwork gets more complicated. AND SHOULD BE.
Additionally, the paperwork may have involved *A CHANGE OF ADDRESS* to a new facility that needed to be qualified for medical use.
Doctors are free to be bootstrappy and independent by NOT accepting Medicare and Medicaid. But most take the money, and many cheat.
Also, does anyone believe that an optometrist fills out his own medical billing paperwork? REALLY?
 
2012-06-20 07:47:02 AM

Big_Fat_Liar: You provides links to his grades in college or law school and I'll suck your dick. You'd like that.


Another 'conservative' obsessed with penis.

WTF?
 
2012-06-20 09:33:12 AM

Big_Fat_Liar: You provides links to his grades in college or law school


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Go back to asking for his long form birf certificat. It makes you look much less butthurt. Crazier, yes, but less butthurt by far

.

Big_Fat_Liar: I'll suck your dick


No thanks, I'm straight. But I find it interesting that someone as openly out as you is a right-winger.
 
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