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2012-06-19 09:53:51 AM  

Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.


The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.
 
2012-06-19 09:57:05 AM  
Looks like Kirk was compensating for something.
 
2012-06-19 10:12:45 AM  

Hardy-r-r: Whar Serenity?


Who?

Scooty_Puff_Sr: Better, IMHO....Link


And THIS.
 
2012-06-19 10:13:30 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.


Whine more.
 
2012-06-19 10:16:21 AM  
czetie

dittybopper: Had that never happened, what do you think the odds are that we would have spent that money developing a fusion drive? Or even some sort of fission based drive (either a pulsed explosion drive, or something more tame like a NERVA)?

If not for the Iraq war, we could have had even more tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%.


Bill Clinton says renew all expiring tax cuts
 
2012-06-19 10:18:08 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.


I didn't realize directors were also the writers.
 
2012-06-19 10:19:57 AM  

GAT_00: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

I don't understand how it isn't automatically the same size as the original one.

That being said, that looks like a Constitution-class silhouette, but a reboot one. The warp engines look too long for either though.


Yard upgrade.

First time I've seen Skylon to scale. I'm surprised at how large it is.
 
2012-06-19 10:24:28 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine


I would watch that.
 
2012-06-19 10:42:35 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it.


I liked Abrams' TREK fine, though I didn't know he'd never watched the show
before he got brought in. Even with that, I thought he did a better job than
Brannon Braga did with VOYAGER.

That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I'd watch that movie.
 
2012-06-19 10:45:27 AM  

dittybopper: czetie: dittybopper: Had that never happened, what do you think the odds are that we would have spent that money developing a fusion drive? Or even some sort of fission based drive (either a pulsed explosion drive, or something more tame like a NERVA)?

If not for the Iraq war, we could have had even more tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%. Just imagine what kind of innovation that would have bought us!

Fewer dead brown people? Fewer dead US soldiers? Fewer grieving 99%?

/Two can play that game.


Two tabs over.
 
2012-06-19 10:48:55 AM  

Nurglitch: I just thought that I might stop by and mention the only thing I learned as a philosophy-wannabe: The Problem of Bearerless Names. Essentially the problem is deciding on the truth-value of statements made about persons, places, and things that are fictional. This is one instance of it: How can the non-existent Enterprise be 900' rather than 1200', when there's nothing to measure?


It can be measured.
 
2012-06-19 10:51:29 AM  

DamnYankees: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

Whine more.


Who pissed in your corn flakes? It's Star Trek, you tool. No one takes it seriously.
 
2012-06-19 10:53:28 AM  

Iblis824: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I didn't realize directors were also the writers.


Lots of them are. Like JJ Abrams, who wrote Taking Care of Business, Regarding Henry, Forever Young, Gone Fishin', Armageddon, Joy Ride, Mission: Impossible III, and Super 8 plus (at least parts of) the TV shows Felicity, Alias, Lost, Fringe, and Anatomy of Hope.
 
2012-06-19 10:53:45 AM  

Iblis824: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I didn't realize directors were also the writers.


I actually don't remember what his level of involvement was, and I don't particularly care either. He's an easy target, and it's a crap movie no matter who's to blame. And I haven't liked anything else he's done, so meh. But that's just me. His work is obviously very popular. But I don't think that proves much. So is Budweiser, after all.
 
2012-06-19 10:55:37 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Iblis824: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I didn't realize directors were also the writers.

I actually don't remember what his level of involvement was, and I don't particularly care either. He's an easy target, and it's a crap movie no matter who's to blame. And I haven't liked anything else he's done, so meh. But that's just me. His work is obviously very popular. But I don't think that proves much. So is Budweiser, after all.


When the entire world sees the world one way and you see it a different way, you're the one who is crazy.
 
2012-06-19 10:58:59 AM  

Saiga410: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine

I would watch that.


DjangoStonereaver: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it.

I liked Abrams' TREK fine, though I didn't know he'd never watched the show
before he got brought in. Even with that, I thought he did a better job than
Brannon Braga did with VOYAGER.

That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I'd watch that movie.


So would I, to be honest. And I'd probably enjoy it, too. Star Trek the Star Trek was fun to watch, too, and I'm a big Trek fan. But I still think it's crap as Star Trek goes. It had its points, but it was mostly very stupid.
 
2012-06-19 11:01:06 AM  

meanmutton: Nurglitch: I just thought that I might stop by and mention the only thing I learned as a philosophy-wannabe: The Problem of Bearerless Names. Essentially the problem is deciding on the truth-value of statements made about persons, places, and things that are fictional. This is one instance of it: How can the non-existent Enterprise be 900' rather than 1200', when there's nothing to measure?

It can be measured.


I'll just leave this here.
 
2012-06-19 11:01:56 AM  

meanmutton: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Iblis824: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Confabulat: There appears to be some confusion about the size of the current movie Enterprise. I would think the nerds would have sorted all this out by now.

The problem is that it's kind of hard to get a good look at it, the way Abrams works. And from the way he writes, I doubt he knows either, or cares.

I don't consider any of this Star Trek anyway, even with Paramount's imprimatur. Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it. That's like asking Uwe Boll to direct the remake of Lawrence of Arabia, and he decides that Lawrence is actually Lara Croft's son, and the British Empire was wiped out by atomic bombs dropped by Chamberlain, and Churchill comes back in a dream sequence somewhere in Canada.... You can expect some great action, but you wouldn't want to be sober for it. Also, bring motion sickness medicine.

I didn't realize directors were also the writers.

I actually don't remember what his level of involvement was, and I don't particularly care either. He's an easy target, and it's a crap movie no matter who's to blame. And I haven't liked anything else he's done, so meh. But that's just me. His work is obviously very popular. But I don't think that proves much. So is Budweiser, after all.

When the entire world sees the world one way and you see it a different way, you're the one who is crazy.


So, I'm crazy if I think that Budweiser is crap? Dude, you're embarrassing even by Michigan standards.
 
2012-06-19 11:15:42 AM  

Iblis824: Mugato: Nurglitch: I just thought that I might stop by and mention the only thing I learned as a philosophy-wannabe: The Problem of Bearerless Names. Essentially the problem is deciding on the truth-value of statements made about persons, places, and things that are fictional. This is one instance of it: How can the non-existent Enterprise be 900' rather than 1200', when there's nothing to measure?

This is why people hate philosophy majors.


Because, while fictional, someone, somewhere wrote down the specs?


And even if no one did, the ship is visible on screen in relation to other objects, in such a way that size might be estimated the same way you can look at a picture of something and determine how big it might be?
 
2012-06-19 11:22:38 AM  

imontheinternet: meanmutton: Nurglitch: I just thought that I might stop by and mention the only thing I learned as a philosophy-wannabe: The Problem of Bearerless Names. Essentially the problem is deciding on the truth-value of statements made about persons, places, and things that are fictional. This is one instance of it: How can the non-existent Enterprise be 900' rather than 1200', when there's nothing to measure?

It can be measured.

I'll just leave this here.


That just about sums it up.
 
2012-06-19 11:42:49 AM  
img535.imageshack.us

Feeling inadequate?
 
2012-06-19 11:43:19 AM  
Whar is deathstar?
 
2012-06-19 11:46:57 AM  
The only Enterprises with very solid scale references are the ones Andrew Probert worked on from Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Star Trek: The Next Generation. They were designed from the start with deck-by-deck cutaways. The external docking ports on the models correspond to full-size sets. There you go.

The Enterprise in that chart is definitely the 2009 movie one and that makes the chart pretty random because nobody really knows what size that Enterprise is. I think they actually rescaled it a few times during production. And Engineering was shot in a brewery. Good luck making a ship diagram from that.
 
2012-06-19 12:18:47 PM  
Interesting how I09 took Boing Boing's chart of actual or proposed space vehicles and compared them all to the fictional Enterprise.
 
2012-06-19 12:23:04 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: So, I'm crazy if I think that Budweiser is crap? Dude, you're embarrassing even by Michigan standards.


If you think you're the only one who thinks Budweiser is crap, then yes, you are crazy.
 
2012-06-19 12:25:57 PM  

Hardy-r-r: Whar Serenity?


They were going to do a comparison but it got cancelled because nobody was interested in seeing it.
 
2012-06-19 01:52:17 PM  

Scooty_Puff_Sr: Better, IMHO....Link


This.

/and years old
//io9, once again on the leading edge of nothing
 
2012-06-19 02:17:28 PM  

Hardy-r-r: Whar Serenity?


Whar SDF-1?
 
2012-06-19 02:27:45 PM  

Nem Wan: And Engineering was shot in a brewery. Good luck making a ship diagram from that.


I always wondered exactly why a starship powered by matter/antimatter reactions would need quite that much water.
 
2012-06-19 03:12:45 PM  
ArcadianRefugee

//io9, once again on the leading edge of nothing

Leading source of all green-lites on fark.

Their content is crap, but they have the moderators in their pocket.
 
2012-06-19 03:18:13 PM  
No link to the Reddit remix? For shame!

i.imgur.com


Bigger image linky.
 
2012-06-19 04:39:52 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it.


That's farked up with all the writers in and out of Hollywood, they find the one who never saw Star Trek.
 
2012-06-19 04:52:18 PM  

grinding_journalist: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: So, I'm crazy if I think that Budweiser is crap? Dude, you're embarrassing even by Michigan standards.

If you think you're the only one who thinks Budweiser is crap, then yes, you are crazy.


Kid, I'm really trying to give you a chance here, but if you're determined to prove how useless you are, I can't help you.
 
2012-06-19 04:54:08 PM  

RatMaster999: Hardy-r-r: Whar Serenity?

Whar SDF-1?


Whar Lexx?

Seriously, a fictional spaceship can be any arbitrary size. Comparing them to real ones is meaningless. If the point is that our imagination outsizes our accessible reality, then please tell me no one got paid for TFA.
 
2012-06-19 04:55:42 PM  

bbfreak: No link to the Reddit remix? For shame!

[i.imgur.com image 640x468]


Bigger image linky.


Is it just me, or does Skylon look like something some kid came up with during a study period?
 
2012-06-19 05:18:41 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: bbfreak: No link to the Reddit remix? For shame!

[i.imgur.com image 640x468]


Bigger image linky.

Is it just me, or does Skylon look like something some kid came up with during a study period?


Well it was developed by a guy who had another space plane idea in the 1980's that was cancelled and has been in development since the 1990's. So I wouldn't hold my breath on it flying anytime soon.
 
2012-06-19 05:40:54 PM  

bbfreak: No link to the Reddit remix? For shame!

[i.imgur.com image 640x468]


Bigger image linky.


No, were too busy linking to the AWESOME GRAND DADDY OF SPACESHIP COMPARISONS. Go back to reddit.
 
2012-06-19 06:10:33 PM  

Iblis824: LoneWolf343: Enterprise-J

BAM

Link


Wow, that's ugly.

/Didn't watch much of Enterprise.
//Doesn't seem to be missing out on much
 
2012-06-19 06:16:46 PM  
Starships run with engines the size of a walnut.
Walnuts run with engines the size of starships!

/Things that would blow your mind, Scotty...
 
2012-06-19 06:18:33 PM  

GAT_00: but a reboot one


Ahh.
Also the space shuttle is not a large as one may think it is.
 
2012-06-19 08:52:49 PM  
Whar V'Ger? Whar????
 
2012-06-19 09:08:51 PM  

Clyde_Suckfinger: Whar V'Ger? Whar????


Right here.
 
2012-06-19 10:25:31 PM  
STAR TREK IS REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!
 
2012-06-19 10:39:44 PM  
Where's Jaws? I don't understand all the fancy moon man kilometers and such but I know Jaws is 25 feet.
 
2012-06-20 12:03:19 AM  
 
2012-06-20 03:12:26 AM  

Mugato: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it.

That's farked up with all the writers in and out of Hollywood, they find the one who never saw Star Trek.


That's crap. Abrams never said he never watched Star Trek, that's virtually impossible for people of a certain age. He just said he was more of a Star Wars guy.

God, Trekkies. Abrams was the best thing that's ever happened to Trek. Maybe you prefer Rick Berman?
 
2012-06-20 03:23:51 AM  

Confabulat: Mugato: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Abrams admitted he hadn't even seen the show before being tapped to direct it.

That's farked up with all the writers in and out of Hollywood, they find the one who never saw Star Trek.

That's crap. Abrams never said he never watched Star Trek, that's virtually impossible for people of a certain age. He just said he was more of a Star Wars guy.

God, Trekkies. Abrams was the best thing that's ever happened to Trek. Maybe you prefer Rick Berman?


Agreed, Star Trek would be dead without Abrams regardless of his faults and he's better than Rick Berman by a mile.
 
2012-06-20 07:28:59 AM  

Confabulat: God, Trekkies. Abrams was the best thing that's ever happened to Trek. Maybe you prefer Rick Berman?


Actually, Berman went off the rails later on but Roddenberry's TNG was terrible. If Berman hadn't come in, Trek would have lasted long. All Abrams did was turn Star Trek into Star Wars, which is fine by me, but I can see how some Trekkies could be pissed.
 
2012-06-20 07:29:34 AM  
WOULDN'T that is
 
2012-06-20 12:53:45 PM  

Confabulat:

God, Trekkies. Abrams was the best thing that's ever happened to Trek.

LOLNo.

Maybe you prefer Rick Berman?

Also no. False Dichotomy.

bbfreak: Agreed, Star Trek would be dead without Abrams regardless of his faults and he's better than Rick Berman by a mile.


It's dead with Abrams. The reboot was an okay movie by itself, but, as an injection of fresh blood into the franchise, it's a failure. It's just not as interesting as a universe as it once was.
 
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