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2012-06-19 11:28:52 AM  

drayno76: frepnog: when i was in school, this sort of thing was done if it was necessary. no one was traumatized. no one was fired. and by god, if someone stole, and had the stolen article on their person, it was found.

I am 40 years old. I have three kids. If one of my kids to this DAY was accused of stealing, and didn't do it (of course my kids were raised correctly and don't steal), they would probably be yanking their pants off and throwing them at the principal, yelling "check my pockets".

some of you people need to toughen up. this kid was not traumatized by this. hell, by the time the kid got home the actual incident was probably mostly forgotten. a search isn't going to destroy his life. on the other hand - when he was searched and nothing found, the parents of the child needed to tell the principal "don't accuse my child again with no proof".

Patronick313: I don't understand why this is even a discussion:

No. Schools should never ask a student to remove any clothing in the presence of a staff member. Ever. Fact. Science. Fin. Even the police can't perform a strip search unless your arrested, what on God's green earth makes school departments think this would ever be kosher?

Parents, use this as a teaching tool:

Mom & Dad: "Now what do you say if anyone at school tells you that you have to take off your clothes?"

3rd Grader: "No. Call my Mom. Now."

or

High Schooler: "LOLZ. I'm calling my Dad. Touch me, pervo, and I'll punt you in the cubes."

My kid at any age..

Txt; "Daddy, the principal wants me to take my clothes off, what should I do."
Reply: "Tell him, "Dad's been called and he says you had better prepare to take 28" of shotgun barrel up your a$$ by the time he gets here."


problem - kid should not have a motherfarking cell phone in school.
second problem - assault with a deadly weapon is not called for, you farking moron. nor would you actually do it to begin with, because while a faculty member MIGHT get fired for searching your child, you will definitely go to prison if you show up at a school with a shotgun and threaten people with it.

moron.
 
2012-06-19 11:37:22 AM  

FormlessOne: FTA: "The assistant principal was within her legal authority, her legal right, to do the search," Warren said. "She may have been overzealous in her actions."

Wait - it's legal in North Carolina to strip-search a child in a school without a parent or guardian present? Really? Never mind that it's the opposite sex doing the searching, never mind that the search was done without the consent of the parent or guardian - what the hell?

What in the hell is wrong with you, North Carolina?


"It's not MY kid that's going to get strip-searched! MY kid would never do ANYTHING wrong, so only the guilty need to be afraid! Like those hooligans down the street! A little humiliation would do 'em good!"

/That's why htis happens. It's disgusting.
 
2012-06-19 11:39:07 AM  
I am happy we all pretty much agree that something wrong happened here. Where were all you rational people for the article about the little boy being forcibly bathed against his will? It shouldn't need to be said that there at the very least needs to be parental consent or a court ruling of some kind if people other than the gaurdian are going to be taking clothes off a minor.
 
2012-06-19 11:49:46 AM  

The_Smurf_Strangler: I am happy we all pretty much agree that something wrong happened here. Where were all you rational people for the article about the little boy being forcibly bathed against his will? It shouldn't need to be said that there at the very least needs to be parental consent or a court ruling of some kind if people other than the gaurdian are going to be taking clothes off a minor.


You think that smelly kid should just have been rolled around in lime and sent back to his desk?

// Kid should have been kicked off the school bus. No one likes a smelly classmate.
 
2012-06-19 11:53:55 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You never think, man, that could be my kid. It's always some other misbehaving kid. It's that brat that lives next door. It's that hooligan from across the street. It's that black kid who doesn't have a dad living with him.

But if you start letting principals and authority figures treat other kids like this, then it's only a matter of time before they use that power to terrorize your kid. Maybe it was stealing today, but the bar lowers each time. Next time it will be copying homework. Or pulling a girl's pigtails. Or dropping a pencil in class.

This principal needs to be summarily dismissed. farking jackbooted pedophile.



Wholeheartedly agreed, even if you are attempting to troll. Fark, I went through a no-holds-barred communist schooling system in the 80s (we were allowed to be corporally punished, etc.) but even for that time and place this would have never stood. In fact, I am sure there would have been mob-justice dispensed swiftly and severely on the principal.

If that was my kid, let's just say the principal would be principally screwed from both professional and personal angles. Actions like this just don't compute in any civilized society and should be punished. And before you jump the gun, no, I don't think the principal has a thing for young-uns, and should be labelled a 'sex'-whatever. This is still a bad choice on part of the supposedly trained professional who should have known better than to scar the kid mentally like that. Their action are no better than any peer-bully, only made worse by the supposition that they should have known much much better than that.

//Overzealous power-seekers are the worst
 
2012-06-19 12:31:11 PM  

seancakes: CasperImproved: FormlessOne: [snip]

If someone at a school did this to my child, you can believe they would never be able to do it to another before I was done with the issue.

something like this:

(walks into assistant principals office) "Would you please explain to me exactly why you felt the need to strip search my child?" (halfway through the explanation) "the shirt. lose the shirt. explain it to me again." (process repeats until a sufficiently embarrassing state of undress is reached, and then they're frogmarched through the halls of the school, and maybe the streets outside)


You are one damn skippy right!!

I would do something... I don't know what, but for the VP or any teacher to have had my child strip, I would make sure it did not happen again to *any* child. And in no case would it end well for that VP or teacher.
 
2012-06-19 01:20:34 PM  
Daily Fail: Here is a pic of Teresa Holmes

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-06-19 01:34:44 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Cyno01: And see, and thats fine, if youre arresting someone and putting them in lockup, you want to make sure they dont have a shiv tucked in their asscrack or a bag of drugs under their taint. Thats ok.

Actually, there was a pretty f--king big outcry over that decision, but whatever. It'll never happen to you where you're arrested and not charged and get the joy of a strip search, I'm sure.

/Because metal detectors don't exist.


Once youve been arrested, regardless of the outcome of your trial, you lose certain rights at least temporarily. Its a strip search, not a cavity search. Performed in private after the arrest before youre put in a holding cell, i really dont see it as any more humiliating than being arrested in the first place. If ever wrongly arrested, i think id be glad that everyone in the cell with me had been searched for weapons.
 
2012-06-19 01:36:10 PM  

FormlessOne: FTA: "The assistant principal was within her legal authority, her legal right, to do the search," Warren said. "She may have been overzealous in her actions."

Wait - it's legal in North Carolina to strip-search a child in a school without a parent or guardian present? Really? Never mind that it's the opposite sex doing the searching, never mind that the search was done without the consent of the parent or guardian - what the hell?

What in the hell is wrong with you, North Carolina?


Not sure this story would be better if it had been a male teacher.
 
2012-06-19 01:41:10 PM  

Cyno01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Cyno01: And see, and thats fine, if youre arresting someone and putting them in lockup, you want to make sure they dont have a shiv tucked in their asscrack or a bag of drugs under their taint. Thats ok.

Actually, there was a pretty f--king big outcry over that decision, but whatever. It'll never happen to you where you're arrested and not charged and get the joy of a strip search, I'm sure.

/Because metal detectors don't exist.

Once youve been arrested, regardless of the outcome of your trial, you lose certain rights at least temporarily. Its a strip search, not a cavity search. Performed in private after the arrest before youre put in a holding cell, i really dont see it as any more humiliating than being arrested in the first place. If ever wrongly arrested, i think id be glad that everyone in the cell with me had been searched for weapons.


Is a cavity search when they are looking for concealed gingivitis?

//Gingivitis
 
2012-06-19 01:52:17 PM  

Leeds: The_Smurf_Strangler: I am happy we all pretty much agree that something wrong happened here. Where were all you rational people for the article about the little boy being forcibly bathed against his will? It shouldn't need to be said that there at the very least needs to be parental consent or a court ruling of some kind if people other than the gaurdian are going to be taking clothes off a minor.

You think that smelly kid should just have been rolled around in lime and sent back to his desk?

// Kid should have been kicked off the school bus. No one likes a smelly classmate.


No I think they should have called CPS and not humiliated him. Its generally not the kids fault when they smell. It is usually a sign of neglect or abuse.
 
2012-06-19 01:59:50 PM  

Z-clipped: lanmac: Coming on a Bicycle: lanmac: Being in and from NC. I must condone we are not all this stupid. I felt this needed to be said after the state seems to be stuck in a time warp, first banning gay marriage then banning rights in general. WTF NC WTF?

Condone. That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

damn it this is why i should not post at 3-4ish in the morn.

EDIT: I do not condone....

Nope... stiiiill not the right word


Whatever I can't remember proper usage I give up.
 
2012-06-19 02:56:10 PM  

The_Smurf_Strangler: Leeds: The_Smurf_Strangler: I am happy we all pretty much agree that something wrong happened here. Where were all you rational people for the article about the little boy being forcibly bathed against his will? It shouldn't need to be said that there at the very least needs to be parental consent or a court ruling of some kind if people other than the gaurdian are going to be taking clothes off a minor.

You think that smelly kid should just have been rolled around in lime and sent back to his desk?

// Kid should have been kicked off the school bus. No one likes a smelly classmate.

No I think they should have called CPS and not humiliated him. Its generally not the kids fault when they smell. It is usually a sign of neglect or abuse.


i missed that tale. how old was the kid?
 
2012-06-19 05:21:44 PM  

frepnog: The_Smurf_Strangler: Leeds: The_Smurf_Strangler: I am happy we all pretty much agree that something wrong happened here. Where were all you rational people for the article about the little boy being forcibly bathed against his will? It shouldn't need to be said that there at the very least needs to be parental consent or a court ruling of some kind if people other than the gaurdian are going to be taking clothes off a minor.

You think that smelly kid should just have been rolled around in lime and sent back to his desk?

// Kid should have been kicked off the school bus. No one likes a smelly classmate.

No I think they should have called CPS and not humiliated him. Its generally not the kids fault when they smell. It is usually a sign of neglect or abuse.

i missed that tale. how old was the kid?


8
 
2012-06-19 05:33:26 PM  

Need_MindBleach: So if a male principal strip searched a 10-year-old girl while a female janitor watched, that would have been okay too? What the fark is wrong with people?

Actually, regardless of the genders involved, what the fark is wrong with these people?


Replace the 10 yo girl with an 18 yo girl and I'm completely on board with that idea.
 
2012-06-19 05:59:21 PM  

fat_free: Daily Fail: Here is a pic of Teresa Holmes

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-19 07:31:26 PM  

FormlessOne: FTA: "The assistant principal was within her legal authority, her legal right, to do the search," Warren said. "She may have been overzealous in her actions."

Wait - it's legal in North Carolina to strip-search a child in a school without a parent or guardian present? Really? Never mind that it's the opposite sex doing the searching, never mind that the search was done without the consent of the parent or guardian - what the hell?

What in the hell is wrong with you, North Carolina?


A lot is wrong with the assistant principal. And it is not legal to do that search. So sayeth SCOTUS. Safford Unified School District v. Redding, 557 U.S. ___ 129 S.Ct. 2633, 174 L.Ed.2d 354 (2009)
 
2012-06-20 01:35:03 AM  
Hmmm, that reminds me - maybe the principle and teachers that used to paddle me in school woukd like to TRY it now?
I GUARANTEE a different outcome!
 
2012-06-20 02:58:59 AM  
remember the part of the body under the clothing is the "sexiest" part of all
so "sexy" it's illegal -Cops
 
2012-06-20 08:53:45 AM  
It's getting to the point now that if you're a school prinicpal, you might as well just go ahead and be a catholic priest.
 
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