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(Christian Science Monitor)   Can a Maine independent heal Congress? Short answer: Ha. Long answer: Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha   (csmonitor.com) divider line 25
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2012-06-18 05:07:05 PM
I'll believe that when me shiat turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.
 
2012-06-18 05:07:06 PM
Not unless he intends to heal it in the way owners heal their race horses with broken legs.
 
2012-06-18 05:09:22 PM
I've got a craving for steak for some reason.
 
2012-06-18 05:11:18 PM
Interesting strategy. Refuse to say which party you'll caucus with, so you can use it as leverage for committee memberships and whatnot after you're elected.

Of course, you're not going to make any friends on the other side off the aisle after you play let's make a deal, then stab them in the back and caucus with the enemy.
 
2012-06-18 05:16:37 PM
Oh, an "Independent" - adorable.
 
2012-06-18 05:17:33 PM
No

/next question
 
2012-06-18 05:24:31 PM
By golly!

/no one talks like this
 
2012-06-18 05:25:19 PM

Serious Black: I'll believe that when me shiat turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.


3-4 of these outta do the trick.

newspaper.li
 
2012-06-18 05:26:29 PM
Aren't questions in headlines always answered by "no" ?

Also, dude sounds more like a Democrat than anything else. He made money on clean energy, gave laptops to middle schoolers, and hosted public TV. He's also an anti-Super PAC guy.

Now, all of that's just from RTFA, so if any of you Maine farkers want to educate me more, I'm interested. But realistically, he sounds like a fairly standard blue dog who isn't going to change anything.
 
2012-06-18 05:27:32 PM
Lemme guess - he's an "independent" who chides Republicans for hating gays so much and fights viciously against tax hikes on the rich. An independent who is also popular with those who stroke their egos by fancying themselves above the partisan fray. *clicks*

Ah, it seems King is also independent in the sense that he has no actual positions except GIT R DUN.
 
2012-06-18 05:35:05 PM

Maud Dib: Serious Black: I'll believe that when me shiat turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

3-4 of these outta do the trick.

[newspaper.li image 320x240]


I've never had a Four Loko, and I really don't want to start now. I don't need to do stupid shiat faster and with more energy.
 
2012-06-18 05:35:17 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Lemme guess - he's an "independent" who chides Republicans for hating gays so much and fights viciously against tax hikes on the rich. An independent who is also popular with those who stroke their egos by fancying themselves above the partisan fray. *clicks*

Ah, it seems King is also independent in the sense that he has no actual positions except GIT R DUN.


King is pretty damn Liberal.

He ran our state for 8 years, and he did a HELL of a good job doing so.

I am voting for him come November
 
2012-06-18 06:05:01 PM

Arkanaut: I've got a craving for steak for some reason.


And I want to listen to AC/DC.
 
2012-06-18 06:07:10 PM

ToxicMunkee: By golly!

/no one talks like this


static7.businessinsider.com

The heck we don't. Geez!
 
2012-06-18 06:08:15 PM
He's a socially-left-of-moderate technocrat, which gives him appeal on both sides of the aisle, but he infuriates tree huggers and wing nuts alike. I hope he gets elected. Independent and 3rd party candidates have no chance from large powerful states like CA, FL, NY, and TX but if enough of them get elected from small states we might actually get some real representation in Congress.

I'll be voting for him, particularly since both establishment parties have selected unelectable candidates in their primaries.
 
2012-06-18 07:42:34 PM
Wait til they find out his moustache has super powers.
 
2012-06-18 08:23:49 PM

imontheinternet: Interesting strategy. Refuse to say which party you'll caucus with, so you can use it as leverage for committee memberships and whatnot after you're elected.

Of course, you're not going to make any friends on the other side off the aisle after you play let's make a deal, then stab them in the back and caucus with the enemy.


Angus is a real independent - but no one who knows any of his positions seriously thinks he'll do anything about caucus with the Democrats.

/Angus
 
2012-06-18 08:25:11 PM
*anything but.

/Dammit
 
2012-06-18 08:27:53 PM

Macular Degenerate: He's a socially-left-of-moderate technocrat, which gives him appeal on both sides of the aisle, but he infuriates tree huggers and wing nuts alike. I hope he gets elected. Independent and 3rd party candidates have no chance from large powerful states like CA, FL, NY, and TX but if enough of them get elected from small states we might actually get some real representation in Congress.

I'll be voting for him, particularly since both establishment parties have selected unelectable candidates in their primaries.


Unelectable is strong - but Angus does seem to pretty much have it wrapped up.
 
2012-06-18 08:31:16 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-18 08:46:12 PM
I dunno, man - I love Angus. I got the chance to meet the guy a coupla times, and he is the real deal.
 
2012-06-18 09:28:09 PM

Jake Leg: I dunno, man - I love Angus. I got the chance to meet the guy a coupla times, and he is the real deal.


Same here... I met him at a Kiwanis luncheon (I was there as the Key Club rep).
Definitely voting for him.
 
2012-06-18 10:18:56 PM
This guy is problems abound just under the surface, he want to deregulate the paper mills up here that dump waste waters into the rivers. the one in my area had 4 EPA violations within one month

His environmental policy is near pointless for maine, there is no oil or gas up here and the Pipeline(most recent one proposed) is going to go directly through alot of pristine wilderness, Doesn't even mention the Huge offshore wind projects that are being taken up by the Maine state universities

After looking at his website its just alot of what people want to hear but just alot of talk.

And outcome based payment for medical care is just a way to have lots of Medical Professionals abandon the state.
 
2012-06-18 11:50:30 PM
Heal congress? Absolutely not. Be the most powerful Senator in the country? Easily.

From what I've seen, he's a well-meaning, good guy, who believes in the ability of government to do good things but (quite rightly) sees the two parties as serving their own interests over making any attempt to do what is right by their constituents.

By my estimate, the possibility of Obama keeping the White House, Republicans having 50 seats in the Senate, and Democrats having 48 seats plus Bernie Sanders (and Joe Biden for the tie) is not unlikely given the polling numbers coming out of the competitive Senate races.

If I were King and lucked into that position, I would refuse to officially caucus with either party. I would demand to be the tie-breaking vote on every committee I wanted, in exchange for my one-time support for either party's leadership election (giving them the "majority" for control purposes.

/ Not a bad position for a first-term Senator to be in.
 
2012-06-19 03:15:34 AM

JadedRaverLA: Heal congress? Absolutely not. Be the most powerful Senator in the country? Easily.

From what I've seen, he's a well-meaning, good guy, who believes in the ability of government to do good things but (quite rightly) sees the two parties as serving their own interests over making any attempt to do what is right by their constituents.

By my estimate, the possibility of Obama keeping the White House, Republicans having 50 seats in the Senate, and Democrats having 48 seats plus Bernie Sanders (and Joe Biden for the tie) is not unlikely given the polling numbers coming out of the competitive Senate races.

If I were King and lucked into that position, I would refuse to officially caucus with either party. I would demand to be the tie-breaking vote on every committee I wanted, in exchange for my one-time support for either party's leadership election (giving them the "majority" for control purposes.

/ Not a bad position for a first-term Senator to be in.


Well meaning, good guys don't pull that kind of crap. And that would not earn you power, it would torpedo any chance you ever had to get anything done. The work of the Senate is not done with committee votes- those are a formality. The work is done in the crafting of the bills themselves, which is done by Senators talking to other Senators, or staffs talking to staffs. You get a percentage modified here, a provision added there, all without going through a formal amendment process. Sure, bills do get marked up, but if you really want to shape things, you do it from the ground up. And that relies on being liked, and being effective at making your case. On bigger bills, it means being friendly with leadership. If you dick leadership around, you get yourself frozen out. "Gee, I would love to add that provision to the bill, but the republicans needed something in exchange for changing this percentage, and well, that happens. It's compromise".

Soft power is much, much more important in the Senate than it is in the House. And pulling a stunt like that would be an incredibly effective way to destroy what little of it you start with as a freshman.

To be effective in the Senate, you have to cultivate relationships. And not just for yourself- you need staff that's friendly with the administration, other senate offices, leadership, you need people who know the committee process (on the staff level) well. Burning bridges on both sides of the aisle before you even start... Well, that's not a great idea. The Senate responds badly to power plays.
 
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