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(NESN)   Turns out much of the Costas interview with Tickle Monster didn't air. There can't be any real damning statements though, right?   (nesn.com) divider line 205
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2012-06-18 03:58:42 PM
FTFA: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

W...T...F!?
 
2012-06-18 04:14:12 PM
How did that NOT get aired? Costas is clearly trying to get Sandusky to admit to something, and he does (inadvertently) and it doesn't get aired??

WTF?
 
2012-06-18 04:20:02 PM
WTF
 
2012-06-18 04:26:50 PM
I've been sitting here for two minutes. I can't think of anything add other then another round of WTF?
 
2012-06-18 04:34:56 PM
WTF! FTW
 
2012-06-18 04:37:08 PM
The fark, what for?
 
2012-06-18 04:59:35 PM
Talk about bad luck
 
2012-06-18 05:06:36 PM
He's actually taking the stand in his own defense?

Oh man, that'll be amazing. This guy slips up more than Joe Biden, his own defense attorneys will be asking for the death penalty by the time he's done to minimize the damages.
 
2012-06-18 05:07:56 PM
FTA: Sandusky did go out of his way to deny any allegations of inappropriate contact with children.

Um, no he didn't. He didn't go out of his way at all, the quote from the Boobies in these comments indicates that clear enough.

/add me in for another heaping helping of WTF
 
2012-06-18 05:10:00 PM
His attorney HAS to be going for "the conviction will be overturned on appeal based on 'massive, staggering, mind-boggling, earth-shattering levels of attorney incompetence.'"

Either that, or Sandusky's statements will be used for an insanity defense. "Seriously, your honor. This guy thought 'Well, I didn't fark ALL of the kids I helped out' was a winning strategy."
 
2012-06-18 05:11:29 PM
WTFDIJR?!
 
2012-06-18 05:22:20 PM
WTF

FTW

TWF

FWT

WTF?!
 
2012-06-18 05:23:25 PM
Wow. Just ........ WOW
 
2012-06-18 05:26:32 PM
Looks like Sandusky has a predilection for sticking his foot in it, too
 
2012-06-18 05:31:17 PM
"And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.
 
2012-06-18 05:35:31 PM
Since WTF and FTW are used and (abused) here, how about TFW and WFT?
 
2012-06-18 05:40:21 PM

Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired? Costas is clearly trying to get Sandusky to admit to something, and he does (inadvertently) and it doesn't get aired??

WTF?


Costas doesn't want THAT kind of publicity. After all, it IS a family show. And it's not like Costas is a journalist.
 
2012-06-18 05:44:21 PM
On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.
 
2012-06-18 06:00:54 PM

vernonFL: On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.


Send in the clowns.

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.


Yeah, it's almost sad; almost.
I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.
 
2012-06-18 06:04:34 PM
Pray tell, state ye fuccary?
 
2012-06-18 06:05:28 PM

AbbeySomeone: vernonFL: On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.

Send in the clowns.

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.

Yeah, it's almost sad; almost.
I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.


She had to know something was up. I'm guessing she just choosed to ignore it, nice life and all.

But OMG WTF
 
2012-06-18 06:05:36 PM

AbbeySomeone: I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.


This one is baffling to me. How do these women sit by and watch this? First it was that monster from Syracuse and now this horror show.
 
2012-06-18 06:07:20 PM
Not sure who was the defence witness they had today, but the news report I was listening to quoted him as saying something like "I saw him take young boys into the shower, but I didn't see anything unusual". I'm not quite sure how he managed to reconcile the first part of the statement with the second point.
 
2012-06-18 06:13:23 PM
Actually, this is a case of we're reading too much into his statement. What he was trying to say that he doesn't cruise for young ass. In fact, he never had enough time to do that with a majority of them.

So he had to be very selective ; to those that were cute and would keep silent.
 
2012-06-18 06:18:54 PM

TeddyBallGame: AbbeySomeone: I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.

This one is baffling to me. How do these women sit by and watch this? First it was that monster from Syracuse and now this horror show.


Nobody is that obtuse. A spouse can hide a few things from anyone but they were married for many years and these kids were in her own house, in a separate room in the basement. There is no way she didn't have some sense of what was up.
My guess is that she had the life she wanted and didn't want to give it up. This may have kept him entertained, kept him away from her and also given her some leverage or a bargaining tool.
Listen to the interview, he isn't a real smooth operator.
 
2012-06-18 06:20:21 PM

Confabulat:
She had to know something was up. I'm guessing she just choosed to ignore it, nice life and all.
But OMG WTF


Clearly she felt that 'spending an evening with the boys' wasn't something to be taken literally. Though I think that when he walked out of the house wearing one white glove, she should have had some suspicions.
 
2012-06-18 06:42:24 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired? Costas is clearly trying to get Sandusky to admit to something, and he does (inadvertently) and it doesn't get aired??

WTF?

Costas doesn't want THAT kind of publicity. After all, it IS a family show. And it's not like Costas is a journalist.


He's not an editor. Someone above him chose to edit out that part of the interview, and it's probably a good thing he/she did. Now the prosecution can use it.

It's also possible that Sandusky's vocal inflections somehow made it sound less damning.
 
2012-06-18 07:07:20 PM
This whole thing just makes me sick.
I hope this son of a biatch earns pounding in the ass in prison for every day of the rest of his miserable life.
 
2012-06-18 07:23:56 PM

Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired?


That quote about him not seeking out ALL the boys for a good raping did make the interview. I remembered because we all had pretty much the same reaction to it when it aired.
 
2012-06-18 07:31:37 PM

SilentStrider: This whole thing just makes me sick.
I hope this son of a biatch earns pounding in the ass in prison for every day of the rest of his miserable life.


I propose we spend the rest of the thread determining suitable creative punishment for this farking pond scum freak in hopes the judge reads the thread and is open to suggestions.

I'll start with sticking him in a veal box and providing blunt weapons and a hit of angel dust so we can see who will be the first to mash his skull into liquid.
 
2012-06-18 08:40:46 PM

NewportBarGuy: Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired?

That quote about him not seeking out ALL the boys for a good raping did make the interview. I remembered because we all had pretty much the same reaction to it when it aired.


When I read that, I thought it was familiar, too. I think that made the cut.
 
2012-06-18 08:45:09 PM

alwaysjaded: SilentStrider: This whole thing just makes me sick.
I hope this son of a biatch earns pounding in the ass in prison for every day of the rest of his miserable life.

I propose we spend the rest of the thread determining suitable creative punishment for this farking pond scum freak in hopes the judge reads the thread and is open to suggestions.

I'll start with sticking him in a veal box and providing blunt weapons and a hit of angel dust so we can see who will be the first to mash his skull into liquid.


I say we give him a 100 pound scrotum like the guy in the thread that will go live shortly. Then provide angel dust as a reward for good behavior to certain inmates on his cell block. We do this each Cinco de Mayo and he serves as the cell block's pinata.
 
2012-06-18 08:57:18 PM
Andersen Cooper is twitting about the missing statements. Apparently he'll have them tonight on AC360.
 
2012-06-18 08:58:14 PM
www.magpuldynamics.com

Did someone say my name?
 
2012-06-18 09:00:47 PM
Um,

I'm not sure I can delve into this thread w/o damage...

;)

p.s. GRRR.
 
2012-06-18 09:00:47 PM

TeddyBallGame: FTFA: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

W...T...F!?


Yeah. Wow. Just...words fail.
 
2012-06-18 09:01:24 PM
Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrotting
Foxtrot

And he's going to take the stand? At this point I'm convinced his defense team wants him convicted as much as the prosecution does.
 
2012-06-18 09:01:41 PM
Goddamn I wish they would air this shiat on court tv.

Him being on the stand is going to be mindnumbingly bizarre and disturbing.
 
2012-06-18 09:02:44 PM
Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.
 
2012-06-18 09:04:19 PM

Sgt Oddball: And he's going to take the stand? At this point I'm convinced his defense team wants him convicted as much as the prosecution does.


Sandusky Defense Lead Counsel:

i232.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-18 09:04:31 PM

Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.


Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.
 
2012-06-18 09:05:08 PM

Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.


Fondling is still cool, right?
 
Skr
2012-06-18 09:05:50 PM
I'd offer him a shovel but it looks like he already has a

www.telovation.com

to dig his own hole with.
 
2012-06-18 09:06:02 PM
I don't find any of these "new" statements incriminating. Sandusky is simply a poor speaker.

He's going up the river none the less. The witnesses against him were pretty effective.
 
2012-06-18 09:07:56 PM

Timmy the Tumor: He's actually taking the stand in his own defense?

Oh man, that'll be amazing. This guy slips up more than Joe Biden, his own defense attorneys will be asking for the death penalty by the time he's done to minimize the damages.


He is a classic, textbook narcissist. He can not understand that he can't explain his way out of this. He doesn't get that the world will not fall in love with him as soon as he starts talking. He can not see how taking the stand is a bad thing. He has no concept of how badly he is going to lose this case.

His lawyer couldn't keep him off. And yes, it will be exactly that lulzy.
 
2012-06-18 09:08:03 PM

alwaysjaded: SilentStrider: This whole thing just makes me sick.
I hope this son of a biatch earns pounding in the ass in prison for every day of the rest of his miserable life.

I propose we spend the rest of the thread determining suitable creative punishment for this farking pond scum freak in hopes the judge reads the thread and is open to suggestions.

I'll start with sticking him in a veal box and providing blunt weapons and a hit of angel dust so we can see who will be the first to mash his skull into liquid.


FTW?

i1119.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-18 09:10:54 PM
witchesbrewonline.com

"Well, obviously we have a RAPIST here in State College."
 
2012-06-18 09:12:26 PM
Did anyone say WTF yet? Because srsly u guys. What. The. F*ck.

/srsly u guys
//u guys, srsly
 
2012-06-18 09:16:43 PM

Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.


"Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.
 
2012-06-18 09:16:48 PM
He has stinky pinkies.
Joe Paterno knew he had stinky pinkies.
The PSU campus police knew he had stinky pinkies.
The state Police. . . Are on the free ticket take.

/Let's go to the tape, Joe.
 
2012-06-18 09:17:26 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

Fondling is still cool, right?


You think you're cute and funny, but I still find this suspect and off-putting.

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child before the age of consent, whatever your State. In America, we should do ads I say above. That is all.
 
2012-06-18 09:17:30 PM
Corporation:

"Sure we cause some environmental damage, crash the economy now and again, maybe kill some people in third world countries; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Government:

"Sure, we make some mistakes, maybe bomb the wrong guy now and again, cause some civilian casualties and collateral damage; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Individual:

"Sure, I may have farked a few little boys, caused irreversible psychological and physical damage, but look at all the GOOD I do!"

"You gonna FRY, biatch."
 
2012-06-18 09:17:39 PM
Can't wait to hear O&A (well, not O if he's still sick) talking about this tomorrow.
 
2012-06-18 09:18:39 PM

ArcadianRefugee: "Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.


OK, then. We've heard from NAMLBA.
 
2012-06-18 09:18:46 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

"Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.


Please read below.
 
2012-06-18 09:19:23 PM

ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."


You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!
 
2012-06-18 09:20:34 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!


Well, we gotta draw the line SOMEWHERE.
 
2012-06-18 09:21:07 PM

Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.


Chemical? Hell surgical castration for this fellow.
 
2012-06-18 09:24:51 PM

vudukungfu: ArcadianRefugee: "Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.

OK, then. We've heard from NAMLBA.


images.wikia.com


He's not a member in good standing
 
2012-06-18 09:25:34 PM

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.


That's not a confession, it's the Herman Cain defense.
 
2012-06-18 09:25:39 PM
What the hell kind of a lawyer even let's a client dig himself in that deep?
 
2012-06-18 09:26:18 PM
They cut the part where Jerry invited lil' Bobby Costas to take a post-interview celebration shower with him.
 
2012-06-18 09:28:05 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!


The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really
 
2012-06-18 09:28:25 PM
Who would have thought he was guilty? When your lawyer puts people on the stand in his defense who say they too have showered with young boys you are clearly a fine upstanding citizen.
 
2012-06-18 09:28:59 PM
Sorry to be late to the party, but WTF? O_o ... That is not a super exculpatory interview. Maybe he will interview better on the stand? I have no idea how he agreed to that interview in the first place, but to take the stand too? Suicide wish?

*Ick*
 
2012-06-18 09:30:10 PM

thunderbird8804: The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.


It's only a seventeen hour drive... I'll probably stop on the way to get some bubble-gum wine coolers...
 
2012-06-18 09:30:47 PM

davidphogan: What the hell kind of a lawyer even let's a client dig himself in that deep?


I don't even want to fark with you about your use of apostrophes. The parallels between this very catholic of crimes and the very catholic Joe Paterno (whom I revered prior to this, btw) absolutely boggles the mind.It's as if they went by the numbers all the way in the Vatican cover-up playbook.
 
2012-06-18 09:31:00 PM
He's gonna get off either way.
Either on acquittal of charges, or on getting to be the boy this time in the prison shower.
 
2012-06-18 09:31:19 PM
And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."


Gonna be alot of confused people here when this guy gets a slap on the wrist. If he even serves time I would be amazed, he definately wont be "spending the rest of his life behind bars". You are the usual farking fools to believe he will. farking fools.

Acquitted.
Given treatment and released.
Or less than 2 years with under a year served for good behavior.

If you expect more, then you are not paying attention to how the world works.

/he's a national hero, i'm amazed they didnt pat him on the head and gift wrap him a small black baby boy with a bow.
 
2012-06-18 09:32:22 PM

vudukungfu: ArcadianRefugee: "Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.

OK, then. We've heard from NAMLBA.


Right, 'cos I'm wrong in any way you can argue with.

Indubitably: Please read below.


"Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s"

40s? Holy shiat.....
 
2012-06-18 09:33:19 PM

orclover: If you expect more, then you are not paying attention to how the world works.


You think he has enough money to get out of this?
 
2012-06-18 09:33:45 PM
I think there was a transcription error. The punctuation changes clearly show his innocence.

"And I didn't. Go around. Seeking out every young person for sexual needs? That I've helped? There are many. That I didn't! Have I hardly had any contact with who I have helped? In many, many ways."
 
2012-06-18 09:35:55 PM

thunderbird8804: The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!

The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really


Why do you think I'm arguing for leniency vs. pedophiles?

Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?
 
2012-06-18 09:37:21 PM
The thing that should really turn your stomach is the fact that for every crime someone is convicted of, there are undoubtedly several more that will slip under the radar.

These convictions will represent perhaps 1/10 of the true damage he's done throughout his life as a predator.
 
2012-06-18 09:37:33 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: He's gonna get off either way.
Either on acquittal of charges, or on getting to be the boy this time in the prison shower.


Remember: prison rape is A-ok!
 
2012-06-18 09:41:11 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You think he has enough money to get out of this?

He has something more powerful than money, fame. He will be farking more kids in 2 years or less. If reality was balanced then one of these grown up victims would have already put a bullet in his farking head. There is no loving god. There is no balance in the universe, no karma. Most of us will claw our way through this shiat pile day by day until we die whimpering for our mothers. This guy just makes it worse, there will be no justice.

And remember, Jesus loves him more than you.

/The closest thing to justice in my lifetime is what happened to Dahmer, closest. But he could only die once.
 
2012-06-18 09:42:07 PM

orclover: The_Gallant_Gallstone: You think he has enough money to get out of this?
He has something more powerful than money, fame. He will be farking more kids in 2 years or less. If reality was balanced then one of these grown up victims would have already put a bullet in his farking head. There is no loving god. There is no balance in the universe, no karma. Most of us will claw our way through this shiat pile day by day until we die whimpering for our mothers. This guy just makes it worse, there will be no justice.

And remember, Jesus loves him more than you.


This.
 
2012-06-18 09:43:14 PM

Indubitably: AverageAmericanGuy: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

Fondling is still cool, right?

You think you're cute and funny, but I still find this suspect and off-putting.

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child before the age of consent, whatever your State. In America, we should do ads I say above. That is all.


People don't understand their own sexuality until they're in their 40s? That's going to come as news to 90% of people of child-bearing age.
 
2012-06-18 09:43:46 PM

ialdabaoth: Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?


If you say any phrase pertaining the age of consent and it doesn't contain "it should be higher" and "the only penalty should be summary execution," you're a kiddy-diddler. Don't you learn things?
 
2012-06-18 09:44:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: vudukungfu: ArcadianRefugee: "Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.

OK, then. We've heard from NAMLBA.

Right, 'cos I'm wrong in any way you can argue with.

Indubitably: Please read below.

"Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s"

40s? Holy shiat.....


That explains the Republican Party
 
2012-06-18 09:46:04 PM

RealAmericanHero: ialdabaoth: Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?

If you say any phrase pertaining the age of consent and it doesn't contain "it should be higher" and "the only penalty should be summary execution," you're a kiddy-diddler. Don't you learn things?


Actually, I remember the moment that this place blackened my heart. Someone was suggesting that summary execution was simply insufficient, and that the only punishment that could possibly bring justice was to have his own children raped in front of him - that way he could feel the pain that those childrens' parents felt.
 
2012-06-18 09:47:10 PM

ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!

The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really

Why do you think I'm arguing for leniency vs. pedophiles?

Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?


What your original post was saying was essentially, "Who are we to judge? We already do awful things to children, so why aren't we allowed to fark them too?" That might not have been your intent, but it is what you wrote.

/When you're trying to make a serious point, keep the snark toned down, it doesn't help
 
2012-06-18 09:47:42 PM
Guess what?

There is a Harvard professor (naturally) who thinks that pedophiles are no worse than alcoholics and needed to be deal with as such, i.e. no prison, just councelling(sp).

He also said that pedophiles were 'born this way' and shouldn't be treated or held in contempt by society for being the way Nature made them.

I know this because I saw him interviewed on PBS 7-8 years ago.
 
2012-06-18 09:49:05 PM

thunderbird8804: ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!

The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really

Why do you think I'm arguing for leniency vs. pedophiles?

Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?

What your original post was saying was essentially, "Who are we to judge? We already do awful things to children, so why aren't we allowed to fark them too?" That might not have been your intent, but it is what you wrote.

/When you're trying to make a serious point, keep the snark toned down, it doesn't help


I have nothing but snark left. This place has cut everything else out of me.
 
2012-06-18 09:51:05 PM
Why the hell is his lawyer letting him talk? Good gravy.
 
2012-06-18 09:51:19 PM

ialdabaoth: I have nothing but snark left. This place has cut everything else out of me.


Then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
2012-06-18 09:52:13 PM

Crewmannumber6: ialdabaoth: I have nothing but snark left. This place has cut everything else out of me.

Then don't let the door hit you on the way out.


Why leave? I can play your game.
 
2012-06-18 09:53:24 PM
I'll play!

www.fearnet.com
 
2012-06-18 09:54:10 PM

ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!

The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really

Why do you think I'm arguing for leniency vs. pedophiles?

Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?

What your original post was saying was essentially, "Who are we to judge? We already do awful things to children, so why aren't we allowed to fark them too?" That might not have been your intent, but it is what you wrote.

/When you're trying to make a serious point, keep the snark toned down, it doesn't help

I have nothing but snark left. This place has cut everything else out of me.


I know how you feel, I was a pretty embittered cynic for a long while, but I've been methodically shedding my cynicism a bit at a time for a while now and getting rid of it is such a relief.
 
2012-06-18 09:55:54 PM

themadtupper: Indubitably: AverageAmericanGuy: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

Fondling is still cool, right?

You think you're cute and funny, but I still find this suspect and off-putting.

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child before the age of consent, whatever your State. In America, we should do ads I say above. That is all.

People don't understand their own sexuality until they're in their 40s? That's going to come as news to 90% of people of child-bearing age.


Exactly.

This is actually a surprise to humans?

Pffft.

P.S. When you finally grow up, you'll understand my words...
 
2012-06-18 09:59:08 PM

Ringshadow: Why the hell is his lawyer letting him talk? Good gravy.


Insanity defense, they cant fight the evidence so they fight the verdict. Dont laugh, dont even farking blink. If we are just getting a small taste of the horror that the jury is they may agree with the defense and say he's too farked up to send to prison. I can think of one thing only that the defense is fighting that they may have them resulting to such drastic measures. its not the witnesses, its not the dozens of victims, none of that. I'm guessing the cops found tapes and pics, a farking mountain of it, probably so much that we will never learn just how farked up this guy was. But the jury is finding out. Lawyers are throwing a hail Mary. Think it cant land? Do you not pay attention to judicial circuses in this country?

Prepare to puke.

/I have responsibilities, somebody else has to balance this farking scale.
 
2012-06-18 10:00:33 PM

vudukungfu: ArcadianRefugee: "Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.

OK, then. We've heard from NAMLBA.


or someone from parts of the middle east or africa...

/yes, there are middle easter countrieswhere it is okay and accepted to fark little boys.
 
2012-06-18 10:01:14 PM

ialdabaoth: Actually, I remember the moment that this place blackened my heart. Someone was suggesting that summary execution was simply insufficient, and that the only punishment that could possibly bring justice was to have his own children raped in front of him - that way he could feel the pain that those childrens' parents felt.


I've got a good one from back when I was on TF. The subject was penalty of sex offenders, and many people suggested 100% execution. I pointed out (and this isn't my idea that I'm taking credit for, it's just good common sense) that if the penalty is equivalent or greater than the penalty for murder, kiddy-diddlers (or other sorts of diddlers, for that matter) have no reason to leave their victims alive to talk because the penalty is the same.

This was met by some TFer arguing with me for two hours, and extremely seriously, that it didn't matter because all children that are molested are better off dead anyway. They literally argued for hours that it was actually better that the kids die.

And it wasn't a troll. I weep for humanity.
 
2012-06-18 10:01:16 PM

thunderbird8804: ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: ialdabaoth: thunderbird8804: The_Gallant_Gallstone: ialdabaoth: "You gonna FRY, biatch."

You can put kids in forced labor workshops, deny them medical care, and disintegrate them with drone strikes, but YOU DO NOT put your weiner in them!

The kids you two chat with online are TOTALLY not FBI agents. You should definitely go to the address they provide for some mind blowing kiddy diddling.

/Really

Why do you think I'm arguing for leniency vs. pedophiles?

Are you so completely okay with forced labor workshops, denying children medical care, and bombing them that the only interpretation you can conceive of from my posts is that I'm pro kiddy-diddling? Is kiddy-diddling actually a PREFERRABLE place for your mind to go, rather than dismantling the system that's devouring childrens' futures?

What your original post was saying was essentially, "Who are we to judge? We already do awful things to children, so why aren't we allowed to fark them too?" That might not have been your intent, but it is what you wrote.

/When you're trying to make a serious point, keep the snark toned down, it doesn't help

I have nothing but snark left. This place has cut everything else out of me.

I know how you feel, I was a pretty embittered cynic for a long while, but I've been methodically shedding my cynicism a bit at a time for a while now and getting rid of it is such a relief.


1999 Bosnia incident
In the late 1990s, according to whistleblower Ben Johnston, a former aircraft mechanic who worked for the company in Bosnia and Herzegovina, DynCorp employees and supervisors engaged in sex with 12 to 15 year old children, and sold them to each other as slaves.[71] Ben Johnston was fired, and later forced into protective custody. According to Johnston, none of the girls were from Bosnia and Herzegovina itself, but were kidnapped by DynCorp employees from Russia, Romania and other places.

On June 2, 2000, members of the 48th Military Police Detachment conducted a sting on the DynCorp hangar at Comanche Base Camp, one of two U.S. bases in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and all DynCorp personnel were detained for questioning. CID spent several weeks working the investigation and the results appear to support Johnston's allegations. For example, according to DynCorp employee Kevin Werner's sworn statement to CID, "during my last six months I have come to know a man we call 'Debeli,' which is Croatian for fat boy. He is the operator of a nightclub by the name of Harley's that offers prostitution. Women are sold hourly, nightly or permanently."[72]
Johnston is not the only DynCorp employee to blow the whistle and sue the billion-dollar government contractor. Kathryn Bolkovac, a U.N. International Police Force monitor hired by the U.S. company on another U.N.-related contract, filed a lawsuit in Great Britain against DynCorp for unfair dismissal due to a protected disclosure (whistleblowing), and on 2 August 2002 the tribunal unanimously found in her favor.[73] DynCorp had a $15 million contract to hire and train police officers for duty in Bosnia and Herzegovina at the time she reported such officers were paying for prostitutes and participating in sex-trafficking.[74] Many of these were forced to resign under suspicion of illegal activity, but none have been prosecuted, as they also enjoy immunity from prosecution in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Bolkovac's story was made into a film, The Whistleblower, in 2010, starring Oscar-winner Rachel Weisz and Vanessa Redgrave. She has also co-authored a 2011 book with Cari Lynn titled The Whistleblower: Sex Trafficking, Military Contractors And One Woman's Fight For Justice.

DynCorp has admitted it fired five employees for similar illegal activities prior to Johnston's charges.[75] In the summer of 2005, the United States Defense department drafted a proposal to prohibit defense contractor involvement in human trafficking for forced prostitution and labor. Several defense contractors, among others DynCorp, stalled the establishment of a final proposal that would formally prohibit defense contractor involvement in these activities.[76]

"Dancing boys" incident
One of the US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks[77][78][79] said that DynCorp workers who were employed to train Afghan policemen took drugs and paid for young "dancing boys" (child prostitutes) to entertain them in Kunduz. The cable stated that the Afghan interior minister at the time, Hanif Atmar asked the assistant US ambassador to try to "quash" both the story and release of video from the incident. The story was eventually published by The Washington Post in July 2009[80] and downplayed the incident, calling it a "questionable management oversight" when it was in fact being discussed at the highest levels of the Afghan government. According to The Guardian, the incident was influential in causing the Afghans to demand that private security companies were more strictly controlled by governments,[81] although the leaked diplomatic cable states that "placing military officers to oversee contractor operations at RTCs [i.e., DynCorp Regional Training Centers] is not legally possible under the current DynCorp contract."

At the time of the leaked cable's writing, an investigation was on-going and disciplinary actions had been taken against DynCorp leaders in Afghanistan. An investigation by Afghanistan's Ministry of Interior (MOI) resulted in the arrest of two Afghan police and nine other Afghans for the crime of "purchasing a service from a child." The United States' Assistant Ambassador to Afghanistan cautioned that an overreaction by the Afghan government would "only increase chances for the greater publicity the MOI is trying to forestall."[77]

According to employees who spoke anonymously for fear of retribution, four senior managers were sacked as a result of this and other incidents in Afghanistan.[80] The State Department was reportedly investigating whether DynCorp had ignored signs of drug abuse among employees in Afghanistan. According to the State Department Inspector General, a "substantially completed" review specifically pertaining to the dancing boy incident had uncovered no criminal activity. Following government investigations into its programs in Afghanistan and other conflict zones, DynCorp was reported to be strengthening its ethics practices, and had created a chief compliance officer position whose focus included ethics, business conduct, and regulatory compliance.
 
2012-06-18 10:07:57 PM
I thought "Tickle Monster" was just another sick Farkism for this creep.

Turns out Sandusky actually used this nickname for himself. Good old fashioned nightmare fuel, there.

*shudder*
 
2012-06-18 10:10:08 PM
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2012-06-18 10:18:01 PM
All I got is WTF. I hope he gets convicted.
 
2012-06-18 10:19:35 PM
I personally am more upset that everyone who covered up for Sandusky is not currently in jail or out on bond at this moment. It's not good enough to focus solely on the perpetrators of crimes; their enablers must be dealt with as well.
 
2012-06-18 10:21:06 PM

Crewmannumber6: davidphogan: What the hell kind of a lawyer even let's a client dig himself in that deep?

I don't even want to fark with you about your use of apostrophes. The parallels between this very catholic of crimes and the very catholic Joe Paterno (whom I revered prior to this, btw) absolutely boggles the mind.It's as if they went by the numbers all the way in the Vatican cover-up playbook.


Holy crap. The bigger news here is that my phone has decided to autocorrect to let's. Holy shiat, I'd never have noticed that.
 
2012-06-18 10:23:01 PM
I don't often swear, but "WTF" is all I could think while reading TFA...
 
2012-06-18 10:23:09 PM
Sandusky was done when Costas asked if he was sexually attracted to boys and his answer wasn't an immediate "FARK NO!"
 
2012-06-18 10:25:31 PM
Maybe someone will do to sandusky what that father did to the karate instructor
 
2012-06-18 10:25:59 PM
Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.
 
2012-06-18 10:26:27 PM

Ringshadow: Why the hell is his lawyer letting him talk? Good gravy.


The basic rule of criminal defense is that the lawyer is completely in charge of how to conduct the case except for three decisions that the Defendant gets to make: (1) Whether or not to plead guilty, (2) Whether or not to choose a bench trial or a jury trial, and (3) Whether or not he wants to testify on his on behalf. His lawyer's (despite what must have been their vehement objections otherwise) can't stop Sandusky from talking even if they wanted to, and are at this point just billing as many hours as they can from his retainer.
 
2012-06-18 10:28:32 PM

AbbeySomeone: TeddyBallGame: AbbeySomeone: I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.

This one is baffling to me. How do these women sit by and watch this? First it was that monster from Syracuse and now this horror show.

Nobody is that obtuse. A spouse can hide a few things from anyone but they were married for many years and these kids were in her own house, in a separate room in the basement. There is no way she didn't have some sense of what was up.
My guess is that she had the life she wanted and didn't want to give it up. This may have kept him entertained, kept him away from her and also given her some leverage or a bargaining tool.
Listen to the interview, he isn't a real smooth operator.


Hmmm, that could be his defense. "my wife encouraged me for her own personal gain"
 
2012-06-18 10:31:06 PM

CornerPocket: If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student?


Sandusky should receive probation for each 13 year old student that bragged about having sex with him afterwards; 30 lashes for each student who did not brag afterwards.
 
2012-06-18 10:36:31 PM

douchebag/hater: Guess what?

There is a Harvard professor (naturally) who thinks that pedophiles are no worse than alcoholics and needed to be deal with as such, i.e. no prison, just councelling(sp).

He also said that pedophiles were 'born this way' and shouldn't be treated or held in contempt by society for being the way Nature made them.

I know this because I saw him interviewed on PBS 7-8 years ago.


I have a feeling that he's right on that point, but horribly wrong on his broader view. Even if they're born the way that they are, it doesn't really matter. Psychopaths are born the way that they are too, and the behavior caused by their abnormal brain structure and chemical composition is so destructive, and the treatment for their condition so absent, that you can't do anything but put them away for as long as you can. Same with pedophiles, they annihilate the lives of the most vulnerable people, and unfortunately there is just no cure save for the stone and iron of jail, or the chill of the grave.

/And as farked up as it is, even chemical castration isn't 100% effective
 
2012-06-18 10:41:44 PM

CornerPocket: Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.


How many 25 year old female teachers have been charged with 51 counts of being a sick fark with, what, 9 different victims? You're not even comparing apples and oranges, you're comparing apples and ostriches.
 
2012-06-18 10:42:27 PM
Does anyone else think that Sandusky is trying for a mistrial? Could he be intentionally setting his legal counsel for failure?
 
2012-06-18 10:43:58 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I don't find any of these "new" statements incriminating. Sandusky is simply a poor speaker.



I disagree, but I want to hear this, rather than read it:

"And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."


The first sentence carries some implication. And it appears to me like he was syllables away from saying "there are many that I didn't have sex with!" and he caught himself.
 
2012-06-18 10:44:50 PM

malaktaus: CornerPocket: Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.

How many 25 year old female teachers have been charged with 51 counts of being a sick fark with, what, 9 different victims? You're not even comparing apples and oranges, you're comparing apples and ostriches.


There is also a huge difference between consensual sex and forced rape.

www.portlandmercury.com
 
2012-06-18 10:46:21 PM
Brilliant. Put that quote in the MSN, get it out there, let every read it and talk about it...

Yup. Mistrial.
 
2012-06-18 10:47:26 PM

great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.

How many 25 year old female teachers have been charged with 51 counts of being a sick fark with, what, 9 different victims? You're not even comparing apples and oranges, you're comparing apples and ostriches.

There is also a huge difference between consensual sex and forced rape.

[www.portlandmercury.com image 500x330]


Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!
 
2012-06-18 10:48:42 PM

great_tigers: Does anyone else think that Sandusky is trying for a mistrial? Could he be intentionally setting his legal counsel for failure?


Guess we cross posted, otherwise I'd simply have selected "Smart" as the closest thing to "Yes, I agree with you."
 
2012-06-18 10:49:58 PM

ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.

How many 25 year old female teachers have been charged with 51 counts of being a sick fark with, what, 9 different victims? You're not even comparing apples and oranges, you're comparing apples and ostriches.

There is also a huge difference between consensual sex and forced rape.

[www.portlandmercury.com image 500x330]

Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!


You wanna know how I know I won't listen to your shat ever again, nor engage you if I can help it, perp?

;)
 
2012-06-18 11:02:08 PM

ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: \
Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!


No, what I am suggesting is that I believe that all of these victims were forced, they didn't consent to Sandusky. A big difference between statutory rape and rape of a minor without consent.
 
2012-06-18 11:03:54 PM

great_tigers: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: \
Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!

No, what I am suggesting is that I believe that all of these victims were forced, they didn't consent to Sandusky. A big difference between statutory rape and rape of a minor without consent.


Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.
 
2012-06-18 11:04:37 PM

great_tigers: Does anyone else think that Sandusky is trying for a mistrial? Could he be intentionally setting his legal counsel for failure?


That would be a big mistake, since mistrials don't work that way.
 
2012-06-18 11:05:09 PM

WhoGAS: great_tigers: Does anyone else think that Sandusky is trying for a mistrial? Could he be intentionally setting his legal counsel for failure?

Guess we cross posted, otherwise I'd simply have selected "Smart" as the closest thing to "Yes, I agree with you."


I guess bored minds think alike.
 
2012-06-18 11:07:48 PM

ialdabaoth: great_tigers: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: \
Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!

No, what I am suggesting is that I believe that all of these victims were forced, they didn't consent to Sandusky. A big difference between statutory rape and rape of a minor without consent.

Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.


I just read your profile, liar.

How does it feel to be a liar?

In the face of "your God?"

Good luck, liar.

For the joke, no?

;)
 
2012-06-18 11:08:55 PM

Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired? Costas is clearly trying to get Sandusky to admit to something, and he does (inadvertently) and it doesn't get aired??

WTF?


It might be evidence. Well, it might HAVE been evidence. Now it's going to be inadmissible as unfairly prejudicial since so many people know about it.

Costas is a fool, or Sandusky is crazy like a fox.
 
2012-06-18 11:09:12 PM

ialdabaoth: Corporation:

"Sure we cause some environmental damage, crash the economy now and again, maybe kill some people in third world countries; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Government:

"Sure, we make some mistakes, maybe bomb the wrong guy now and again, cause some civilian casualties and collateral damage; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Individual:

"Sure, I may have farked a few little boys, caused irreversible psychological and physical damage, but look at all the GOOD I do!"

"You gonna FRY, biatch."


Wow. Thou hath spake the truth, verily. Sounds like the human race has a dilemma on its hands ...
 
2012-06-18 11:09:40 PM
I just read your profile, liar.

How does it feel to be a liar?

In the face of "your God?"

Good luck, liar.

For the joke, no?

;)

P.S. Cosmic time, indeed. You may learn, you may knot, either way, you will be cosmic bits eventually only...
 
2012-06-18 11:12:19 PM

Indubitably: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: \
Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!

No, what I am suggesting is that I believe that all of these victims were forced, they didn't consent to Sandusky. A big difference between statutory rape and rape of a minor without consent.

Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.

I just read your profile, liar.

How does it feel to be a liar?

In the face of "your God?"

Good luck, liar.

For the joke, no?

;)


"Truth" is a funny thing.
 
2012-06-18 11:13:06 PM

ialdabaoth: Indubitably: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: ialdabaoth: great_tigers: malaktaus: CornerPocket: \
Are you suggesting that people under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59.999 seconds are capable of "consent"?

PEDOPHILE!!!

No, what I am suggesting is that I believe that all of these victims were forced, they didn't consent to Sandusky. A big difference between statutory rape and rape of a minor without consent.

Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.

I just read your profile, liar.

How does it feel to be a liar?

In the face of "your God?"

Good luck, liar.

For the joke, no?

;)

"Truth" is a funny thing.


Not really.
 
2012-06-18 11:13:16 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: ialdabaoth: Corporation:

"Sure we cause some environmental damage, crash the economy now and again, maybe kill some people in third world countries; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Government:

"Sure, we make some mistakes, maybe bomb the wrong guy now and again, cause some civilian casualties and collateral damage; but look at all the GOOD we do!"

"Oh. Okay then."

Individual:

"Sure, I may have farked a few little boys, caused irreversible psychological and physical damage, but look at all the GOOD I do!"

"You gonna FRY, biatch."

Wow. Thou hath spake the truth, verily. Sounds like the human race has a dilemma on its hands ...


Luckily, no one cares.
 
2012-06-18 11:13:45 PM

Indubitably:

;)


Stop it.

And don't respond with a goddamned smiley, asshole. I use them occasionally, but you're a hypocrite.
 
2012-06-18 11:15:01 PM

MadAzza: Indubitably:

;)

Stop it.

And don't respond with a goddamned smiley, asshole. I use them occasionally, but you're a hypocrite.


Yeah, as we all are, stone-thrower...
 
2012-06-18 11:16:15 PM

Indubitably: MadAzza: Indubitably:

;)

Stop it.

And don't respond with a goddamned smiley, asshole. I use them occasionally, but you're a hypocrite.

Yeah, as we all are, stone-thrower...


Psst... no one cares.
 
2012-06-18 11:22:52 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Not sure who was the defence witness they had today, but the news report I was listening to quoted him as saying something like "I saw him take young boys into the shower, but I didn't see anything unusual". I'm not quite sure how he managed to reconcile the first part of the statement with the second point.


Because it happened so often it became "usual."
 
2012-06-18 11:23:53 PM
Costas was going to air it, but he had to go call his father first and they decided not to do anything
 
2012-06-18 11:27:52 PM

ialdabaoth:

Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.

Nope, if you read the thread, anyone who has sex with someone under the age of 40 is an inveterate pederast:

Indubitably:

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child


/What a strange conversation
 
2012-06-18 11:33:15 PM
this guy makes Tobias Funke look like Shakespeare

nerdbastards.com

/hot as Hell
//Where Sandusky will be headed
///not soon enough
 
2012-06-18 11:33:46 PM

themadtupper: ialdabaoth:

Remember that these are prepubescent children, not merely 'minors'. I'm not sure that any 'consent' they might give would have agency, let alone legal standing.

Nope, if you read the thread, anyone who has sex with someone under the age of 40 is an inveterate pederast:

Indubitably:

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child

/What a strange conversation


I'm not sure anyone actually cares, though.
 
2012-06-18 11:34:53 PM

MadAzza: Indubitably:

;)

Stop it.

And don't respond with a goddamned smiley, asshole. I use them occasionally, but you're a hypocrite.


He's not a hypocrite or an asshole.

But he sure got up yours, didn't he?

/Hi, doobie!
 
2012-06-18 11:36:40 PM
"Sandusky: The most unluckiest and persecuted man we've ever heard about".
 
2012-06-18 11:38:41 PM

SirEattonHogg: "Sandusky: The most unluckiest and persecuted man we've ever heard about".


www.nndb.com
 
2012-06-18 11:41:26 PM

thunderbird8804: douchebag/hater: Guess what?

There is a Harvard professor (naturally) who thinks that pedophiles are no worse than alcoholics and needed to be deal with as such, i.e. no prison, just councelling(sp).

He also said that pedophiles were 'born this way' and shouldn't be treated or held in contempt by society for being the way Nature made them.

I know this because I saw him interviewed on PBS 7-8 years ago.

I have a feeling that he's right on that point, but horribly wrong on his broader view.


This.

Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing. It's acting on those impulses, however, that is an issue; if someone were a *phile and never touched a child it would be one thing.

In this, it differs from alcoholism greatly. Alcoholics don't go to prison for being alcoholics, they go to prison for doing illegal shiat (while drunk). Similarly, if these guys wanna sit around all day and think about underagers, go for it; touch one, though, and get ready for the slammer.
 
2012-06-18 11:46:17 PM

ArcadianRefugee: thunderbird8804: douchebag/hater: Guess what?

There is a Harvard professor (naturally) who thinks that pedophiles are no worse than alcoholics and needed to be deal with as such, i.e. no prison, just councelling(sp).

He also said that pedophiles were 'born this way' and shouldn't be treated or held in contempt by society for being the way Nature made them.

I know this because I saw him interviewed on PBS 7-8 years ago.

I have a feeling that he's right on that point, but horribly wrong on his broader view.

This.

Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing. It's acting on those impulses, however, that is an issue; if someone were a *phile and never touched a child it would be one thing.

In this, it differs from alcoholism greatly. Alcoholics don't go to prison for being alcoholics, they go to prison for doing illegal shiat (while drunk). Similarly, if these guys wanna sit around all day and think about underagers, go for it; touch one, though, and get ready for the slammer.


Sadly, the ones who know it are the ones who limit their *philia to porn, thinking it's not "really" being a child molester. Which it isn't, for them, but for the poor kids who got used for the porn, it's just as bad.
 
2012-06-18 11:49:13 PM
i've said since i first heard this interview ... if you're asked "are you sexually attracted to young boys?" and the first words out of your mouth aren't "no farkin way" ... you've blown it.
 
2012-06-18 11:50:07 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing. It's acting on those impulses, however, that is an issue; if someone were a *phile and never touched a child it would be one thing.


Fun fact: wikipedia includes ages 18 and 19 in the age-range for ephebophile. Genuine disorder, or convenient number system because it's less than 20?
 
2012-06-18 11:51:09 PM
wtf is wrong with this guys lawyer? does he really not realize how creepy this dude comes off when speaking?
 
2012-06-18 11:51:40 PM

Gyrfalcon: Sadly, the ones who know it are the ones who limit their *philia to porn, thinking it's not "really" being a child molester. Which it isn't, for them, but for the poor kids who got used for the porn, it's just as bad.


Agreed. Purely (if not pure) thoughts are one thing; anything that requires any sort of (forgive me for saying this) "hands on" approach at any stage is right out.
 
2012-06-18 11:55:45 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Gyrfalcon: Sadly, the ones who know it are the ones who limit their *philia to porn, thinking it's not "really" being a child molester. Which it isn't, for them, but for the poor kids who got used for the porn, it's just as bad.

Agreed. Purely (if not pure) thoughts are one thing; anything that requires any sort of (forgive me for saying this) "hands on" approach at any stage is right out.


Objection: creepy 'lolicon' manga drawings do not require any "hands on" approach, but are still rightfully illegal for enflaming the lusts of impressionable men who might go on to become pedophiles.
 
2012-06-19 12:09:11 AM

RealAmericanHero: Fun fact: wikipedia includes ages 18 and 19 in the age-range for ephebophile. Genuine disorder, or convenient number system because it's less than 20?


People like "nice round" numbers for some reason. 10th anniversary; 100,000 miles on the odometer; "new millennium".... Curious.....

ialdabaoth: Objection: creepy 'lolicon' manga drawings do not require any "hands on" approach, but are still rightfully illegal for enflaming the lusts of impressionable men who might go on to become pedophileschild molesters.


FTFM.

Anyway, on that point, I'm not sure I agree. a) it doesn't actually involve children and (b) the "might/could" argument has always been lame.

It's cutting, perhaps, a very fine line, but I don't see drawing an image of that sort of sex any different than drawing an image of someone being murdered.

We (Americans) are a bit more inured to violence than aberrant sex, though.
 
2012-06-19 12:11:00 AM

ArcadianRefugee: RealAmericanHero: Fun fact: wikipedia includes ages 18 and 19 in the age-range for ephebophile. Genuine disorder, or convenient number system because it's less than 20?

People like "nice round" numbers for some reason. 10th anniversary; 100,000 miles on the odometer; "new millennium".... Curious.....

ialdabaoth: Objection: creepy 'lolicon' manga drawings do not require any "hands on" approach, but are still rightfully illegal for enflaming the lusts of impressionable men who might go on to become pedophileschild molesters.

FTFM.


... you're trying to imply that "pedophile" isn't synonymous with "child molester"?

So, how many precious babies do YOU rape each day?
 
2012-06-19 12:12:27 AM

Indubitably: Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s,


After this came out of your head, did you think it might be construed as hyperbole? Or, er, hyperbolishy? Yeah, that's the word.
 
2012-06-19 12:14:03 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing.


Thank you for finally admitting that.
 
2012-06-19 12:16:20 AM

trappedspirit: ArcadianRefugee: Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing.

Thank you for finally admitting that.


Yeah, but no one cares.
 
2012-06-19 12:25:07 AM

ialdabaoth: ... you're trying to imply that "pedophile" isn't synonymous with "child molester"?

So, how many precious babies do YOU rape each day?


I'm not implying; I'm stating flatly.

Pedophilia is a clinical term with a very specific meaning that has been co-opted by the laity for use as a catch-all.

Pedophilia: sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children.
Hebephilia: sexual attraction to pubescent children.
Ephebophilia: sexual attraction to post-pubescent children.
Teleiophilia: sexual attraction to adults (you know, "normal").

Child molester: one who sexually assaults children.

See the difference? One is a attitude, the other is an action.

You may not like it, but I like to speak clearly, so I make the differentiation between belief and behavior.
 
2012-06-19 12:28:18 AM

ialdabaoth: trappedspirit: ArcadianRefugee: Strictly speaking, being a pedophile/hebephile/ephebophile is just a "thought crime" thing.

Thank you for finally admitting that.

Yeah, but no one cares.


Huh. Apparently had trappedspirit on my ignore list without comment. At least not I can note him as "farking idiot".

But I'll bite for the moment: "finally"? I've said this all along, and ye olde DSM agrees. Not my fault if reactionary 'tards like you don't get the distinction between thoughts and behaviors, you farking halfwit.
 
2012-06-19 12:29:10 AM

ArcadianRefugee: ialdabaoth: ... you're trying to imply that "pedophile" isn't synonymous with "child molester"?

So, how many precious babies do YOU rape each day?

I'm not implying; I'm stating flatly.

Pedophilia is a clinical term with a very specific meaning that has been co-opted by the laity for use as a catch-all.

Pedophilia: sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children.
Hebephilia: sexual attraction to pubescent children.
Ephebophilia: sexual attraction to post-pubescent children.
Teleiophilia: sexual attraction to adults (you know, "normal").

Child molester: one who sexually assaults children.

See the difference? One is a attitude, the other is an action.

You may not like it, but I like to speak clearly, so I make the differentiation between belief and behavior.


The problem with speaking clearly, is the assumption that people care about 'facts' or 'reality'.

Since you care about speaking clearly, I will attempt to speak as clearly as I can to you in this post.

People do not care about speaking clearly. They do not care about facts. They do not care about reality.

They care about how they feel, and they care about how they want to feel.

Believing that all pedophiles are child molesters allows them to feel violent and superior. People like feeling violent and superior.

They like to believe that anyone who would question their violent superiority deserves their violence. Thus, they believe that anyone who would question our preconceptions about pedophilia is themselves a pedophile, and therefore a child molester.

It's a closed system. It allows no discourse.

It allows no discourse because people do not care about discourse. Not on this. Not on anything.

People want to win. They want to hurt people that they think are different than themselves, while people that they think are like themselves are watching.

No one cares.
 
2012-06-19 12:31:50 AM

Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.


Especially predatory kiddie diddlers like this sicko. Should get castration on top of whatever other sentence he gets.
 
2012-06-19 12:34:38 AM

ialdabaoth: People do not care about speaking clearly. They do not care about facts. They do not care about reality.


I know. And it may be banging my head against the wall, but to do otherwise would be to not be me. And at this point in my life, it would actually take more effort for me to do otherwise.

So we'll call it a good/bad habit.
 
2012-06-19 12:34:41 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: They cut the part where Jerry invited lil' Bobby Costas to take a post-interview celebration shower with him.


That comment + your handle = priceless

:-D
 
2012-06-19 12:36:16 AM

ArcadianRefugee: ialdabaoth: People do not care about speaking clearly. They do not care about facts. They do not care about reality.

I know. And it may be banging my head against the wall, but to do otherwise would be to not be me. And at this point in my life, it would actually take more effort for me to do otherwise.

So we'll call it a good/bad habit.


Give it time. I was unable to give up on speaking clearly and explaining things, and eventually it led to a full-blown mental disability.
 
2012-06-19 12:37:13 AM

Indubitably: MadAzza: Indubitably:

;)

Stop it.

And don't respond with a goddamned smiley, asshole. I use them occasionally, but you're a hypocrite.

Yeah, as we all are, stone-thrower...


That's true. Anyway, this is what I was reacting to:

You wanna know how I know I won't listen to your shat ever again, nor engage you if I can help it, perp?

;)


I don't understand why you put a smiley there, but I no longer care; it was a minor, transient irritant. I'm sorry I called you an asshole. I hate when I do that. I'm going to fix some dinner. Hunger is making me ... cranky.
 
2012-06-19 12:52:29 AM

SilentStrider: This whole thing just makes me sick.
I hope this son of a biatch earns pounding in the ass in prison for every day of the rest of his miserable life.


Woah, wait. So you're saying you want him to enjoy prison?
 
2012-06-19 01:16:52 AM
Some weird farkers in this thread
 
2012-06-19 01:16:57 AM

ialdabaoth: ArcadianRefugee: ialdabaoth: People do not care about speaking clearly. They do not care about facts. They do not care about reality.

I know. And it may be banging my head against the wall, but to do otherwise would be to not be me. And at this point in my life, it would actually take more effort for me to do otherwise.

So we'll call it a good/bad habit.

Give it time. I was unable to give up on speaking clearly and explaining things, and eventually it led to a full-blown mental disability.


You haven't realized that anyone who can speak and think clearly in this day & age IS mental?

[welcometofark.jpg]

Plus, you're invited to join my Smart People's Party to overthrow the world, if you're so inclined.
 
2012-06-19 01:17:09 AM
COSTAS: Innocent? Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?

JERRY SANDUSKY: Well I could say that, you know, I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I - I have showered after workouts. I - I have hugged them and I - I have touched their leg. Without intent of sexual contact. But - so if - if you look at it that way - there are things that - that - wouldn't - you know, would be accurate.


Yes, this man should testify in his own defense.
 
2012-06-19 01:19:39 AM

malaktaus: CornerPocket: Question:
If found guilty, should Mr. Sandusky's punishment be any more or less severe than that administered to a 25 year old female school teacher who had an affair with a 13 year old male student? Please show your work, and confine discussion and opinion to the criminal, rather than civil, parameters of the alleged crime.

How many 25 year old female teachers have been charged with 51 counts of being a sick fark with, what, 9 different victims? You're not even comparing apples and oranges, you're comparing apples and ostriches.


Ostrich is gonna win that fight, obviously.
 
2012-06-19 01:53:32 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: His attorney HAS to be going for "the conviction will be overturned on appeal based on 'massive, staggering, mind-boggling, earth-shattering levels of attorney incompetence.'"

Either that, or Sandusky's statements will be used for an insanity defense. "Seriously, your honor. This guy thought 'Well, I didn't fark ALL of the kids I helped out' was a winning strategy."


Actually I heard on the radio today that one of his attorneys claimed he has a "personality disorder" and they have expert testimony they will provide to that.

So yeah they're totally going to play the "crazy card".
 
2012-06-19 01:56:47 AM
Pedo say what?

What are the odds that this sick mofo walks out of the court room a free man?
 
2012-06-19 02:01:18 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Ambivalence: How did that NOT get aired? Costas is clearly trying to get Sandusky to admit to something, and he does (inadvertently) and it doesn't get aired??

WTF?

Costas doesn't want THAT kind of publicity. After all, it IS a family show. And it's not like Costas is a journalist.


Also, the minute he does, he's tainted every jury pool in State College, and Sandusky would never be able to get a fair trial.

/Not like he was getting one anyway, one way or another, but at least Costas wouldn't be a main reason why.
 
2012-06-19 02:05:55 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

"Child," of course, still being determined by local cultural whim.


Eh, might as well put 'em to death. I mean, no one who's ever been put to death has later been exonerated, right?

/Yes, of course I'm defending Sandusky and am a Penn State loving pedophile for the above. You don't have to say it anymore.
 
2012-06-19 02:08:03 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-19 02:18:01 AM
is his lawyer some sort of real life amalgam of Lionel Hutz and the chicken from Futurama?
 
2012-06-19 02:24:02 AM

Indubitably:
Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s


I used to have a deeply sexual relationship with fifteen year old. It was great. But I guess I didn't understand.
 
2012-06-19 02:25:42 AM
Ok, let me try my turn as defense lawyer.

"And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. "

Your honor, what my client was saying was that he didn't seek out the people he has helped for sexual reasons.

"There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

So, what my client said was that there are many children he has helped out that he had no personal contact with at all. My client just likes to help children and is not, despite these baseless accusations by the prosecution and a few greedy individuals, helping children to facilitate illegal sexual relationships.

These are clearly harmless comments quickly utterred on the spot; a lack of clarity, stuttering or awkward phrasing and doesn't change the inherent truth behind these statements--my client didnt have contact with every child he helped, and he didnt seek out contact with any children for sexual reasons.
 
2012-06-19 03:06:31 AM
There's not going to be any Casey Anthony surprise at the end of this thing. Hell he's lucky the jury doesn't string him up right there in the courtroom.
 
2012-06-19 04:13:24 AM
Indubitably: themadtupper: Indubitably: AverageAmericanGuy: Indubitably: Indubitably: Um,

Chemical castration is advised for ALL celebrities who've abused their power and farked a child.

NOW.

Let me rephrase that: chemical castration is advised for ALL who've farked a child.

PERIOD.

Fondling is still cool, right?

You think you're cute and funny, but I still find this suspect and off-putting.

Let me reiterate: children don't understand sexuality until maybe in their 40s, and they should NEVER sexualize a child before the age of consent, whatever your State. In America, we should do ads I say above. That is all.

People don't understand their own sexuality until they're in their 40s? That's going to come as news to 90% of people of child-bearing age.

Exactly.

This is actually a surprise to humans?

Pffft.

P.S. When you finally grow up, you'll understand my words...


Dude. I farking hate pedophiles. They destroy lives, and leave people like my coworkers and myself to pick up the pieces.

I think they deserve summary execution after conviction.

That said, I also think you're acting like a bloody idiot in this thread.
 
2012-06-19 04:47:50 AM

BronyMedic:
That said, I also think you're acting like a bloody idiot in this thread.


Luckily, no one actually cares.
 
2012-06-19 05:19:06 AM
I'm in my 40s and I've understood my own sexuality just fine since I was 16 or so. Am I going to learn something new soon? Always like to keep an open mind about things.
 
2012-06-19 05:20:18 AM
ialdabaoth: BronyMedic:
That said, I also think you're acting like a bloody idiot in this thread.

Luckily, no one actually cares.


That's the brilliant thing.

No one has to. It's an internet forum. I can say what I want. On the other hand, the only thing you can do in retort is rage.

It's win-win.
 
2012-06-19 05:23:28 AM
Confabulat: I'm in my 40s and I've understood my own sexuality just fine since I was 16 or so. Am I going to learn something new soon? Always like to keep an open mind about things.

Well. You have to understand. The thought of teenagers acting sexual towards eachother, consentually, makes certain people, like the person who made that claim, feel uneasy. Hot. Bothered. Sweaty. Dirty. The only way they can reconcile that belief with the reality they live in is to lump and portray anyone who believes differently as a pedophile.

Here. I'll let this video explain more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzosjD5O5M

/GATTICA. GATTICA.
 
2012-06-19 05:35:41 AM

BronyMedic: ialdabaoth: BronyMedic:
That said, I also think you're acting like a bloody idiot in this thread.

Luckily, no one actually cares.

That's the brilliant thing.

No one has to. It's an internet forum. I can say what I want. On the other hand, the only thing you can do in retort is rage.

It's win-win.


Exactly. The purpose of the Internet is to spread misery, helplessness, rage and despair - and to train us to want to inflict as much as possible on each other.

It's quite breathtaking.
 
2012-06-19 06:46:52 AM
d14.zedo.com

What. The. F*ck.
 
2012-06-19 07:15:47 AM

douchebag/hater: Guess what?

There is a Harvard professor (naturally) who thinks that pedophiles are no worse than alcoholics and needed to be deal with as such, i.e. no prison, just councelling(sp).

He also said that pedophiles were 'born this way' and shouldn't be treated or held in contempt by society for being the way Nature made them.

I know this because I saw him interviewed on PBS 7-8 years ago.


As my mentally ill brother has been taught all his adult life and lives by: Mental illness is not an excuse for bad behavior.

So, to have the urges? Mental illness. Treatment. To act on them? Crime. Jail.

Just as when the alchoholic crosses the line from drunk behavior to criminal behavior while drunk (ie drunk drives and kills a family), they go from needing rehab to needing jail.

Of course you have those who are so insane and divorced from reality that they can't tell right from wrong (Andrea Yates) but that is not this guy. Although I would be okay with him spending the rest of his life in a secure facility for the criminally insane, as is Ms Yates.
 
2012-06-19 07:33:25 AM

Void_Beavis: Mr. Coffee Nerves: His attorney HAS to be going for "the conviction will be overturned on appeal based on 'massive, staggering, mind-boggling, earth-shattering levels of attorney incompetence.'"

Either that, or Sandusky's statements will be used for an insanity defense. "Seriously, your honor. This guy thought 'Well, I didn't fark ALL of the kids I helped out' was a winning strategy."

Actually I heard on the radio today that one of his attorneys claimed he has a "personality disorder" and they have expert testimony they will provide to that.

So yeah they're totally going to play the "crazy card".


It won't get him off. Wow, that's an unfortunate choice of words... It won't keep him from being convicted. The legal definition of insane is hard to meet, and being found not guilty by reason of insanity is rare.

Jerry is able to follow society's rules just fine (except the part about keep your junk away from the kids) so he is not legally insane. And even if he was, it doesn't mean he goes home. It means he goes to a locked hospital instead of prison. Which would be okay, too.
 
2012-06-19 07:38:00 AM

ialdabaoth: BronyMedic: ialdabaoth: BronyMedic:
That said, I also think you're acting like a bloody idiot in this thread.

Luckily, no one actually cares.

That's the brilliant thing.

No one has to. It's an internet forum. I can say what I want. On the other hand, the only thing you can do in retort is rage.

It's win-win.

Exactly. The purpose of the Internet is to spread misery, helplessness, rage and despair - and to train us to want to inflict as much as possible on each other.

It's quite breathtaking.


www.wiichat.com
 
2012-06-19 08:01:41 AM
Joe Paterno knew.
They all knew.
And as long as mouth breathing neanderfarks worship football, this sort of thing will continue.

When this trial is over, I imagine the civil suits will begin.
 
2012-06-19 08:10:10 AM

vudukungfu: Joe Paterno knew.
They all knew.
And as long as mouth breathing neanderfarks worship football, this sort of thing will continue.

When this trial is over, I imagine the civil suits will begin.


That's the great thing about Capitalism, though, isn't it?

As long as mouth breathing neanderfarks still worship football, they'll pour millions of dollars of revenue into those coffers, with which those agencies can easily pay out the civil suits.

Everyone wins, and all it takes is a few 8-year-olds getting raped!
 
2012-06-19 08:27:20 AM

AbbeySomeone: vernonFL: On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.

Send in the clowns.

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.

Yeah, it's almost sad; almost.
I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.


I'll go a step further. Sandusky is sick. Whether it's biological or psychological (or a combination of the two), he has serious problems and an uncontrollable urge that cannot be cured.

Dottie Sandusky, however, can't say that. According to the grand jury report and the testimony at the trial, she was upstairs in their house while one of the victims (#4 I think) was SCREAMING for her to help, and she did nothing. She also walked in on Jerry with a kid at a hotel, and she turned a blind eye.

Whatever Jerry gets, she deserves to do serious jail time as well.
 
2012-06-19 09:07:43 AM
Reporters just asked the defense attorney if Sandusky will testify and he said people would have to wait and see and said "the trial is like a soap opera."

I'm no legaltician, but I think if one's client is on trial for raping little boys in the shower it's smart to avoid using the word "soap" in any context.
 
2012-06-19 09:12:09 AM

Orgasmatron138: AbbeySomeone: vernonFL: On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.

Send in the clowns.

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.

Yeah, it's almost sad; almost.
I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.

I'll go a step further. Sandusky is sick. Whether it's biological or psychological (or a combination of the two), he has serious problems and an uncontrollable urge that cannot be cured.

Dottie Sandusky, however, can't say that. According to the grand jury report and the testimony at the trial, she was upstairs in their house while one of the victims (#4 I think) was SCREAMING for her to help, and she did nothing. She also walked in on Jerry with a kid at a hotel, and she turned a blind eye.

Whatever Jerry gets, she deserves to do serious jail time as well.


I think it's important to remember that everyone in this town takes football very seriously, and if people looked the other way because the alternative was believing that a cherished pillar of the community was doing something unimaginable, well, we can understand the horrible difficulty they all went through.

We need to focus all that rage on the true perpetrators: the filthy little brats that seduced our cherished football coach, and their filthy money-grubbing parents who ruined the honor of an upstanding senior and philanthropist.
 
2012-06-19 09:19:22 AM

ialdabaoth: Orgasmatron138: AbbeySomeone: vernonFL: On a scale of 1 to John Wayne Gacy, this guy is an 8.

Send in the clowns.

Walker: "And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

B*tch is so f*cked up he didn't realize he just confessed. Lock him up. Throw away the key.

Yeah, it's almost sad; almost.
I still say his wife shares some of the guilt.

I'll go a step further. Sandusky is sick. Whether it's biological or psychological (or a combination of the two), he has serious problems and an uncontrollable urge that cannot be cured.

Dottie Sandusky, however, can't say that. According to the grand jury report and the testimony at the trial, she was upstairs in their house while one of the victims (#4 I think) was SCREAMING for her to help, and she did nothing. She also walked in on Jerry with a kid at a hotel, and she turned a blind eye.

Whatever Jerry gets, she deserves to do serious jail time as well.

I think it's important to remember that everyone in this town takes football very seriously, and if people looked the other way because the alternative was believing that a cherished pillar of the community was doing something unimaginable, well, we can understand the horrible difficulty they all went through.

We need to focus all that rage on the true perpetrators: the filthy little brats that seduced our cherished football coach, and their filthy money-grubbing parents who ruined the honor of an upstanding senior and philanthropist.


Sarcasm aside, there are people who are willfully being ignorant on the subject, especially when it comes to their beloved JoePa.
 
2012-06-19 09:20:06 AM
The things Sandusky has said since the beginning of these allegations are mindblowing, could this be evidence of some sort of insanity? Like MJ, he really seems to have no idea his behaviour was out of line, morally wrong and illegal.
 
2012-06-19 09:35:04 AM
I'm sorry, Sandusky's lawyer didn't just say it was "like a soap." He said "like a soap...like ALL MY CHILDREN"
 
2012-06-19 09:47:55 AM

ialdabaoth: People want to win. They want to hurt people that they think are different than themselves, while people that they think are like themselves are watching.


Something about battling monsters....
 
2012-06-19 10:34:36 AM

I should be in the kitchen: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: They cut the part where Jerry invited lil' Bobby Costas to take a post-interview celebration shower with him.

That comment + your handle = priceless

:-D


I was cringing as I wrote it. That's how I knew it had humor potential. :)
 
2012-06-19 11:04:26 AM

Orgasmatron138: Sarcasm aside, there are people who are willfully being ignorant on the subject, especially when it comes to their beloved JoePa.


Yes, because only Penn State fans and pedo lovers can defend JoePa on this. Everyone else must believe that he's burning in hell for his actions up here.

/Go Bucks.
//You already got your witch.
 
2012-06-19 11:14:45 AM

IlGreven: Orgasmatron138: Sarcasm aside, there are people who are willfully being ignorant on the subject, especially when it comes to their beloved JoePa.

Yes, because only Penn State fans and pedo lovers can defend JoePa on this. Everyone else must believe that he's burning in hell for his actions up here.

/Go Bucks.
//You already got your witch.


I read what you wrote 3 times, and I cannot figure out what you're saying.
 
2012-06-19 11:20:21 AM

thamike: [d14.zedo.com image 300x250]

What. The. F*ck.


Oh he's all about the weird tricks, that scoundrel is.
 
2012-06-19 02:54:57 PM

HiFiGuy: I_Am_Weasel: Not sure who was the defence witness they had today, but the news report I was listening to quoted him as saying something like "I saw him take young boys into the shower, but I didn't see anything unusual". I'm not quite sure how he managed to reconcile the first part of the statement with the second point.

Because it happened so often it became "usual."


From 5th grade on to the 12th grade I was always in some combination of football, basketball, track or cross-country. If a coach of mine *ever* went into the locker room when changing was going on, it was to deliver/collect towels or jock-straps or to deliver a chewing-out for something. In all those years and at different schools I have *never* had a coach who stripped down and hopped into the shower with the kids. Never.
 
2012-06-19 03:17:55 PM

RatOmeter: HiFiGuy: I_Am_Weasel: Not sure who was the defence witness they had today, but the news report I was listening to quoted him as saying something like "I saw him take young boys into the shower, but I didn't see anything unusual". I'm not quite sure how he managed to reconcile the first part of the statement with the second point.

Because it happened so often it became "usual."

From 5th grade on to the 12th grade I was always in some combination of football, basketball, track or cross-country. If a coach of mine *ever* went into the locker room when changing was going on, it was to deliver/collect towels or jock-straps or to deliver a chewing-out for something. In all those years and at different schools I have *never* had a coach who stripped down and hopped into the shower with the kids. Never.


THIS. Showering in a common locker room at the Y while ignoring eachother is fine. Other than that, there is no farking reason at all for an adult to shower with an unrelated child. Certainly no coach should ever shower with youth players. If for no other reason than it looks bad.
 
2012-06-19 04:03:41 PM
My nickname for him is Tickle-Me-ChiMo......
 
2012-06-19 04:21:48 PM

namegoeshere: He is a classic, textbook narcissist. He can not understand that he can't explain his way out of this. He doesn't get that the world will not fall in love with him as soon as he starts talking. He can not see how taking the stand is a bad thing. He has no concept of how badly he is going to lose this case.


THIS ^^

I think there's also a big element of thinking what he did really wasn't wrong. He thinks he was helping those kids so much that anything he did to them for his own pleasure was just fine.

His attorney isn't incompetent, he just has a horrible client.
 
2012-06-19 04:26:39 PM

TeddyBallGame:
W...T...F!?


Ambivalence:
WTF?


Confabulat: WTF


vartian: I've been sitting here for two minutes. I can't think of anything add other then another round of WTF?


scottydoesntknow: WTF! FTW


thadkomorowski.files.wordpress.com

/can't believe I'm first with this...
 
2012-06-19 04:27:47 PM

JustGetItRight: namegoeshere: He is a classic, textbook narcissist. He can not understand that he can't explain his way out of this. He doesn't get that the world will not fall in love with him as soon as he starts talking. He can not see how taking the stand is a bad thing. He has no concept of how badly he is going to lose this case.

THIS ^^

I think there's also a big element of thinking what he did really wasn't wrong. He thinks he was helping those kids so much that anything he did to them for his own pleasure was just fine.

His attorney isn't incompetent, he just has a horrible client.


Yes, which is why I really really really want him to take the stand.

Plz oh plz oh plz...
 
Ral
2012-06-19 10:45:54 PM

orclover: Gonna be alot of confused people here when this guy gets a slap on the wrist. If he even serves time I would be amazed, he definately wont be "spending the rest of his life behind bars". You are the usual farking fools to believe he will. farking fools.



You may be correct about this. However, I predict that if he is acquitted, or receives a light sentence (such as probation), someone will kill him.
 
2012-06-20 12:32:11 AM

aenemated: i've said since i first heard this interview ... if you're asked "are you sexually attracted to young boys?" and the first words out of your mouth aren't "no farkin way" ... you've blown it.


Blown it?
1. Those weren't words.
2. That wasn't his mouth.
 
2012-06-20 08:15:10 AM

Ral: You may be correct about this. However, I predict that if he is acquitted, or receives a light sentence (such as probation), someone will kill him.


You have far more faith in humanity than I do. By and large we are a race of lazy cowards.
 
2012-06-20 09:25:06 PM
I stand by what I said: we learn truly of our sexuality late in life, methinks, what it really means, not what it momentarily fulfills...

The number was a deep joke.

Y'all fell for it.

*bow*

P.S. Thank you; I love you too. ;)
 
2012-06-21 06:07:34 PM

Indubitably: methinks


*SLAP*
 
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