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(Huffington Post)   In the battle against cancer, GOP Senate Candidate Richard Mourdock is on the side of cancer   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 307
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2012-06-18 03:34:02 PM
When the GOP nominated this guy I moved IN from safe red state to tossup and this is exactly why.
 
2012-06-18 03:38:54 PM
"GOP: The pro-cancer party."

That's gonna go over well.
 
2012-06-18 03:39:10 PM
You know, the best arguments in favour of a universal single-payer system are made by Republicans on an almost daily basis.
 
2012-06-18 03:40:02 PM
I think this is also his plan for taking care of the Social Security crisis
 
2012-06-18 03:41:02 PM
Death panels
 
2012-06-18 03:53:02 PM
Now I'm trying to give him cancer with my mind.
 
2012-06-18 03:56:26 PM
THIS is why we need single payer.
 
2012-06-18 03:58:18 PM
Sometimes I think the GOP thinks their crazy base will buy whatever lunacy they're selling. So every now and again they say something so out there, that even their crazy base things it's a step too far. I'm just hoping he doubles down on this derp.

Keep up the good work guys.
 
2012-06-18 03:59:01 PM
In the GOPs reality, employees can shop around endlessly and choose the right employer for them - which is why an employer should be able to ala carte healthcare coverage costs. People just need to get used to reading several volumes of medical legalese of what a prospective employer offers in the way of medical care in order to compare pros vs cons.
 
2012-06-18 04:01:34 PM

NowhereMon: When the GOP nominated this guy I moved IN from safe red state to tossup and this is exactly why.


I have a lot of moderate republican buddies my age here in the city. Every single one of them hates Mourdock. Even though I thought the rural and small-town vote would carry whomever the GOP nominated, this jackass alienates himself further into the tea party corner with each interview and press conference. Donnelly doesnt have much name recognition in most of the state, but he may well win big if he gets some campaign money flowing... and Mourdoch keeps talking.
 
2012-06-18 04:04:44 PM
"Does that employer have the right to do it?" Mourdock told the News and Tribune, covering southern Indiana. "I would say yes they do if they want to keep their health care costs down but it also means it's less likely you're going to want to work here. If that employer wants to get the best employees coming in the door he's going to offer the best insurance possible."

Ah, he's using the very successful argument Rand Paul used for why the Civil Rights Act was a mistake.
 
2012-06-18 04:06:58 PM

Ambivalence: So every now and again they say something so out there, that even their crazy base things it's a step too far. I'm just hoping he doubles down on this derp.


All they have to do is boil it down to a McCarthyesque platitude.
"Why do you hate business? Do you want America to fail?"
"Job-destroying Cancer Coverage is eroding the core of America's industrial backbone."

That will be all the brain trust that is the average republican voter needs to hear. After that they'll back the guy 100%.
 
2012-06-18 04:08:57 PM
Mourdock has been endorsed by several conservative interest groups, including the Club for Growth, FreedomWorks, Citizens United and the Tea Party Express

Well there you go.
 
2012-06-18 04:13:52 PM
Spoken like a man who has good health insurance and hasn't seen a member of his family go bankrupt because of medical bills.
 
2012-06-18 04:15:11 PM
With every news story...just pick one...Republicans just come off more and more as Bond villains. I'm not even talking about Goldfinger or 006. I mean like the evil but inept villains from the Roger Moore era. Like the jackasses who wanted to built bases on the moon and underwater.
 
2012-06-18 04:15:27 PM

unlikely: All they have to do is boil it down to a McCarthyesque platitude.
"Why do you hate business? Do you want America to fail?"
"Job-destroying Cancer Coverage is eroding the core of America's industrial backbone."

That will be all the brain trust that is the average republican voter needs to hear. After that they'll back the guy 100%.


There is a point too far. Why are the lives of jobs more sacred than the lives of Americans? Having a job is important. Being able to fight cancer is MORE important.
 
2012-06-18 04:18:24 PM

Mugato: With every news story...just pick one...Republicans just come off more and more as Bond villains. I'm not even talking about Goldfinger or 006. I mean like the evil but inept villains from the Roger Moore era. Like the jackasses who wanted to built bases on the moon and underwater.


www.verbicidemagazine.com
 
2012-06-18 04:22:01 PM

Ambivalence: unlikely: All they have to do is boil it down to a McCarthyesque platitude.
"Why do you hate business? Do you want America to fail?"
"Job-destroying Cancer Coverage is eroding the core of America's industrial backbone."

That will be all the brain trust that is the average republican voter needs to hear. After that they'll back the guy 100%.

There is a point too far. Why are the lives of jobs more sacred than the lives of Americans? Having a job is important. Being able to fight cancer is MORE important.


Fewer Americans means more available jobs
 
2012-06-18 04:23:02 PM
I hope he gets cancer of the poop chute.
 
2012-06-18 04:23:45 PM

pisceandreamer: Spoken like a man who has good health insurance and hasn't seen a member of his family go bankrupt because of medical bills.


He worked his way up through big oil and coal companies. He was also a perennial candidate and/or office-holder in state and local government. So yeah, he always had cadillac insurance.
 
2012-06-18 04:25:46 PM
Yeah. i'm shocked. Really I am.
 
2012-06-18 04:26:37 PM

poonesfarm: I hope he gets cancer of the poop chute.


No biggy...he has excellent health care...through work...paid for by our taxes...
 
2012-06-18 04:26:38 PM
The Democratic Party's platform should be: "We're not insane, but trying to give you a good idea of what our opponents stand for makes us sound like it."

They're:
Anti-woman,
Pro-cancer,
Pro-war (& sometimes pro-violence,)
Anti-deficit but also anti-taxes,
Anti-infrastructure,
Anti-union, public and private,
Anti-environment,
and they're against religious freedom when it isn't their denomination.

And yet, when most Republicans hear the Democrats say that, their response is "the Dems are all lying about us again!"
 
2012-06-18 04:27:35 PM
You simply walked in to that one, Mourdock.
 
2012-06-18 04:31:12 PM

Calmamity: You simply walked in to that one, Mourdock.



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I ain't gettin on no plane, Mourdock.
 
2012-06-18 04:32:51 PM
If we had a single payer, universal coverage model, then employees could be freed from burden of providing healthcare entirely.

There was a time when Republicans supported that idea.
 
2012-06-18 04:33:31 PM

Marcus Aurelius: THIS is why we need single payer.


Nuts.
 
2012-06-18 04:34:35 PM

SphericalTime: The Democratic Party's platform should be: "We're not insane, but trying to give you a good idea of what our opponents stand for makes us sound like it."

They're:
Anti-woman,
Pro-cancer,
Pro-war (& sometimes pro-violence,)
Anti-deficit but also anti-taxes,
Anti-infrastructure,
Anti-union, public and private,
Anti-environment,
and they're against religious freedom when it isn't their denomination.

And yet, when most Republicans hear the Democrats say that, their response is "the Dems are all lying about us again!"


Actually, they'll say, "Cry some more, libs. We're going to fark this country in the ass and they will let us and ask for seconds because we have them believing that racists, people we made scared of more terrorism and the mathematically impaired aren't voting against their interests by voting with us!". And they will come very close to winning because of it.
 
2012-06-18 04:37:51 PM

Diogenes: If we had a single payer, universal coverage model, then employees could be freed from burden of providing healthcare entirely.

There was a time when Republicans supported that idea.


Even with obamacare, the lack of single payer is going to absolutely kill our ability to compete in the global market within 2 decades.

I'm just gobsmacked that industry as a whole (but particularly exporters) has not moved heaven and earth to be freed from the burden of providing health insurance.
 
2012-06-18 04:39:25 PM
I'm getting ready to travel cross country at the moment; just bought a new suit. I'm preparing for the funeral of a very close, much loved member of my immediate family. He's 2 years younger than me. The cancer we thought had been in remission seems to have metastasized into his brain. But, without adequate health care coverage, it went untreated.

Mourdock deserves brain cancer more than he does.
 
2012-06-18 04:43:36 PM
From the Rubio thread:

Rule #1 of Derp Club: Don't agree and/or compliment Obama EVER, under any circumstance.

Rule #2 of Derp Club: any bill that displays any modicum of humanity toward minorities anyone, and has broad support, should IMMEDIATELY be struck down by the GOP.

FTFM

/more rules welcomed!
 
2012-06-18 04:44:48 PM

Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: If we had a single payer, universal coverage model, then employees could be freed from burden of providing healthcare entirely.

There was a time when Republicans supported that idea.

Even with obamacare, the lack of single payer is going to absolutely kill our ability to compete in the global market within 2 decades.

I'm just gobsmacked that industry as a whole (but particularly exporters) has not moved heaven and earth to be freed from the burden of providing health insurance.


We may have another opening depending on how SCOTUS rules.
 
2012-06-18 04:47:40 PM

FloydA: "GOP: The pro-cancer party."

That's gonna go over well.


Candidate Romeny: do you argree or disagree with this asshole?
Romeny: um, well, you see, if, something, oooooo look over there SHINEY!!!!!
 
2012-06-18 04:50:31 PM

Mugato: With every news story...just pick one...Republicans just come off more and more as Bond villains. I'm not even talking about Goldfinger or 006. I mean like the evil but inept villains from the Roger Moore era. Like the jackasses who wanted to built bases on the moon and underwater.


They've decided to be completely, 100% against Obama at every turn. The more compassionate he his, the more he tries helping minorities, improve education, provide healthcare, etc., and the more the GOP is against those basic, compassionate things.

It's all too formulaic at this point.
 
2012-06-18 04:55:31 PM
honestly - its like the GOP is trying to lose....
 
2012-06-18 04:55:47 PM

DeltaPunch: It's all too formulaic at this point.


But there has to be some breaking point. One after which even the most addicted of Kool-Aid drinkers start asking if the punch tastes funny.

I really need that to be true.
 
2012-06-18 05:20:03 PM

Ambivalence: There is a point too far.


I believe Wisconsin recently disproved your hypothesis.
 
2012-06-18 05:21:39 PM
We cover two things: work related injuries and Viagra. Anything else, you'd best go for Obamacare...

To be fair, this is the sort of thing that could actually finally get us a single payer system.
 
2012-06-18 05:22:25 PM

Diogenes: DeltaPunch: It's all too formulaic at this point.

But there has to be some breaking point. One after which even the most addicted of Kool-Aid drinkers start asking if the punch tastes funny.

I really need that to be true.


Several already have. And they were blasted by the party they once served as "RINOs". You either tow the line or get thrown under the bus as a traitor. Regardless of whether people believe in what they're advocating, no one wnats to be thrown under the bus.
 
2012-06-18 05:25:20 PM

Elzar: In the GOPs reality, employees can shop around endlessly and choose the right employer for them - which is why an employer should be able to ala carte healthcare coverage costs. People just need to get used to reading several volumes of medical legalese of what a prospective employer offers in the way of medical care in order to compare pros vs cons.


And then hope that the employer never changes their insurance plan.

But I guess if that happens, the employee can just go find another employer. Easy!
 
2012-06-18 05:28:19 PM

unlikely: Ambivalence: There is a point too far.

I believe Wisconsin recently disproved your hypothesis.


All Wisconsin proved is that Walker hadn't reached that point. Not that it doesn't exist.
 
2012-06-18 05:31:43 PM

Elzar: In the GOPs reality, employees can shop around endlessly and choose the right employer for them - which is why an employer should be able to ala carte healthcare coverage costs. People just need to get used to reading several volumes of medical legalese of what a prospective employer offers in the way of medical care in order to compare pros vs cons.


In the GOPs reality, employees ARE the cancer - to be disposed of as quickly and as painlessly (for the owner) as possible.
 
2012-06-18 06:07:01 PM

Ambivalence: unlikely: Ambivalence: There is a point too far.

I believe Wisconsin recently disproved your hypothesis.

All Wisconsin proved is that Walker hadn't reached that point. Not that it doesn't exist.


Fair. But I don't think this will go farther than Walker did.
 
2012-06-18 06:09:23 PM

Sliding Carp: Elzar: In the GOPs reality, employees can shop around endlessly and choose the right employer for them - which is why an employer should be able to ala carte healthcare coverage costs. People just need to get used to reading several volumes of medical legalese of what a prospective employer offers in the way of medical care in order to compare pros vs cons.

In the GOPs reality, employees ARE the cancer - to be disposed of as quickly and as painlessly (for the owner) as possible.


Won't it be awesome when all Americans are entrepreneurs? When the last poor person starts their own company and makes a billion dollars without the need for workers, that will be the realization of the Republican dream.
 
2012-06-18 06:12:23 PM

Diogenes: If we had a single payer, universal coverage model, then employees could be freed from burden of providing healthcare entirely.

There was a time when Republicans supported that idea.


Honest question - aside from the ZOMG SOCIALISM "argument," what is the actual argument against moving to single payer? And who is opposing it? Doctors, insurance companies, pharma..?

This is one area that I'm sorry to say I'm not as well read on as I should be, and I know i could ask the googles, but I'd rather just have you explain it to me.
 
2012-06-18 06:13:52 PM

Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: THIS is why we need single payer.

Nuts.


Answering the question on how squirrels manage their universal health care. Though I think that's how they pay for a lot of things.
 
2012-06-18 06:19:20 PM
When I think of malignant growths slowly destroying something that was once healthy, I think "GOP".
 
2012-06-18 06:29:34 PM
FTFA: "Does that employer have the right to do it?" Mourdock told the News and Tribune, covering southern Indiana. "I would say yes they do if they want to keep their health care costs down but it also means it's less likely you're going to want to work here. If that employer wants to get the best employees coming in the door he's going to offer the best insurance possible."

Well technically, he's right, but that's what you get for pushing a capitalist health care system. People are money and not actual... people. I did have a conversation with one of my conservative pals over this. He said he thinks most things can be solved with capitalism. I brought up a hypothetical scenario in which a patient got cancer & was dropped by their insurance company for being too expensive. He then immediately got offended because his mother died of cancer & they had to halt treatments because they reached some sort of lifetime maximum. So he lived the nightmare, but still couldn't step outside his own politics to understand WHY the system was broken. He still hates Obama & everything he does.

A healthy society benefits us all. I just really can't imagine being against that. More "I got mine, fark you" short-sightedness.


propasaurus: Mourdock deserves brain cancer more than he does.


I am so sorry for your loss. What a kick in the gut. :(
 
2012-06-18 06:31:16 PM
what I still don't understand is how someone can claim to be a christian and then turn around and basically say 'f*ck the poor and the sick, I got mine the rest of you can piss off'. And then have all the 'good christians' line up to keep them in office. that is mind blowing. How in the hell do you get all the christians to LINE THE F*CK UP to reward you for being a heretical bastard? 'cause I want that job!
 
2012-06-18 06:31:36 PM
You know what: We wouldn't be having this conversation if health care weren't run as a for profit business. Or that they could form HMO with series of hospitals/doctors/medical facilities under their thumb
 
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