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2012-06-18 03:39:46 PM
6 votes:
Rubio issued a statement Friday calling the announcement "welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer."

Aw, that was stupid Rubio! Rule #1 of Derp Club: Don't agree and/or compliment Obama EVER, under any circumstance.

Rubio went on, "there is broad support for the idea that we should figure out a way to help kids who are undocumented through no fault of their own."

Now you've got, Rubio! Rule #2 of Derp Club: any bill that displays any modicum of humanity toward minorities, and has broad support, should IMMEDIATELY be struck down by the GOP.

Of course, the bill was a joke that they never intended to pass. The Republican congress would've loaded it so full of dysfunctional anti-government derp that Democrats would've been forced to vote it down in the Senate and.... ta-daaaa! GOP is pro-Latino, Democrats are uncompassionate assholes. And Obama blew the whole thing up in his face.
2012-06-18 05:46:02 PM
5 votes:

Mikey1969: In conceding that his own push was likely dead for now, Mr. Rubio also expressed anger at how the White House made its announcement Friday without consulting him or other members of the Republican Party.

You have GOT to be shiatting me...

All the Repubs do is torpedo ANYTHING attached to Obama, and they can't figure out why nobody TELLS them any more when things are in play?

They really ARE as stupid as they appear to be, aren't they?


Obama has started to treat the GOP just like he does Pakistan. This is appropriate, and how you should deal with terrorists.
2012-06-18 06:36:31 PM
3 votes:

FrailChild: Rent Party: You can not unite with someone that does not wish to be with you. The GOP has made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in governing in any kind of bi-partisan manner.

Has Obama passed anything that isn't 100% liberal?



Obama hasn't passed a single thing that is 100% liberal. The libbiest lib that ever libbed is a farking figment of your fevered right wing imagination. The man is to the right of Reagan. He is what us real liberals would call a "moderate republican."


Honestly where do these deluded propagandists get the idea that Obama has bent over backwards to appeal to Republicans - it's so false it's funny.


Well, most of us start with him keeping those awesome liberal tax cuts in place, and then passing that awesome liberal Republican health care plan from the 90s, and his fantastic liberal bailouts for all his fat cat banker buddies, and then work our way out from there.
2012-06-18 05:51:15 PM
3 votes:

relcec: establishes precedent for assinating american citizens, abolishes habeas corpus, starts personal wars without the consent of congress, ignores clearly defined congressionally created immigration law and personally legalizes 800,000 illegal immigrants by presedential fiat.
it's the imperail president that you progressives have been worried about for decades.


Wow all those are lies:
establishes precedent for assinating american citizens - Wrong the "battlefield" rule was established during the Bush administration it didn't change at all under Obama. Also in past wars we would attack US citzens if they were fighting for the enemy and on the battlefield too.

abolishes habeas corpus
- HUH? have no clue what you are talking about here.

ignores clearly defined congressionally created immigration law and personally legalizes 800,000 illegal immigrants by presedential fiat. - not at all. NONE of these immigrants become "legal" they are just not going to be prosecuted. You are lying.
2012-06-18 04:39:05 PM
3 votes:
I feel like I should maybe be upset Obama is trolling the hell out of Republicans and just building up more and more examples and evidence that the GOP Congressional members have no interest in bipartisanship, but it's just so damn amusing to watch them predictably backtrack and attack Obama on supporting something they proposed.

It's like an Onion article come to life.
2012-06-18 06:06:48 PM
2 votes:

FrailChild: Rent Party: Obama has started to treat the GOP just like he does Pakistan. This is appropriate, and how you should deal with terrorists.

wow. Obama the great uniter...


You can not unite with someone that does not wish to be with you. The GOP has made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in governing in any kind of bi-partisan manner. They are perfectly happy to burn down our little village in order to save it, and if Obama ever said "burning villages is bad," a small army of idiots would come out in favor of it. So fark them.

That the President has started to treat them like the terrorists that they are is fantastic, and good news for the rest of America that isn't completely bat shiat crazy.
2012-06-18 05:35:54 PM
2 votes:
In conceding that his own push was likely dead for now, Mr. Rubio also expressed anger at how the White House made its announcement Friday without consulting him or other members of the Republican Party.

You have GOT to be shiatting me...

All the Repubs do is torpedo ANYTHING attached to Obama, and they can't figure out why nobody TELLS them any more when things are in play?

They really ARE as stupid as they appear to be, aren't they?
2012-06-18 03:41:18 PM
2 votes:
Marco Rubio didn't have a bill. He floated some proposals, but he never introduced, nor did he introduce any legislative language, related to his proposals.
2012-06-18 03:32:26 PM
2 votes:
Rubio scuttles his imaginary bill? Whatever will his fantasy supporters do?
2012-06-19 11:08:14 AM
1 votes:

Spaced Lion: Johnnyknox: One does not need a latino Senator when one is OBAMA.

That is very true. One does not need a latino senator when one is

One
Bad
Ass
Motherfarkin'
American


your obama worship is a bit creepy.
just sayin'
2012-06-19 04:13:15 AM
1 votes:

Johnnyknox: One does not need a latino Senator when one is OBAMA.


That is very true. One does not need a latino senator when one is

One
Bad
Ass
Motherfarkin'
American
2012-06-18 09:08:21 PM
1 votes:

Pincy: God it must just suck to be a Republican.


Why so? If they've achieved that much self-delusion, then they can probably delude themselves into being happy.

I imagine that it must be wonderful to be absolutely convinced that God Himself loves you more than anyone else on earth.
2012-06-18 07:47:44 PM
1 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: Yup, you are correct, I was way off base. It seems the true # is large but no one can put an exact figure on it.


You'd think after all this time someone could, you know, do that if there were a large number of bureaucracies and government takeovers?
2012-06-18 07:27:07 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: Rent Party: Clinton vs. Obama for example... if you can even tell the difference?

Also both conservatives

haha! Clearly you expect less from a conservative than I do! :)


I just recognize them when I see them. Your insistence they are liberals is backed up by no facts other than the ones you create out of whole cloth. Both are center right presidents.
2012-06-18 07:18:16 PM
1 votes:
Too many trolls.

homepage.mac.com
2012-06-18 07:00:29 PM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Wtf does this even mean?


Attention whore.
2012-06-18 06:57:02 PM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Corvus: FrailChild: coco ebert: Um, his most successful legislative accomplishment- the Affordable Care Act, was originally a REPUBLICAN plan.

bull

Ummm yes it was:

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Why are you arguing with people who will never, ever listen to a word you say?

Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if the Conservatives plan is to introduce a bunch of herpy derpy crazy right wingers, to have a moderate Conservative win over America?


A moderate conservative is in the Whitehouse right now. If that was their plan, it's worked perfectly.
2012-06-18 06:56:53 PM
1 votes:
obama should start saying" after consulting with the Republicans in the Congress, i've decided to..." , before he does anything.

let the baggers primary all of them
2012-06-18 06:55:51 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: Rent Party: No, not bull. The individual mandate was originally proposed by the super duper liberal Heritage Foundation think tank.

Haha!

Ok so out of 2700 pages of Obamacare, one item (individual mandate) was originally part of a Republican plan. But put that now in the context of a sprawling government-run and regulated healthcare system with layer after layer of government controlled bureaucracy & you have taken away any resemblance to the original idea. Not to mention how they slipped in government rationing healthcare, immunity to price fixing, government access to all personal healthcare data, and a host of other power grabs...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a6_1249202017

This has nothing to do with being conservative.


In which universe does the United States have a government run healthcare system? A government run healthcare system would be a really good, liberal idea, but what Obama gave us was the GOP fantasy world of forced enrollment into the privately run program we have always had.

That is the heart of the legislation, all 2000 pages of it. Everything else in that bill is predicated on that one, Heritage Foundation sourced, really bad, conservative idea.
2012-06-18 06:45:30 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: coco ebert: Um, his most successful legislative accomplishment- the Affordable Care Act, was originally a REPUBLICAN plan.

bull


The whole idea of healthcare mandates were created and pushed by Republicans, including Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney up to the time Obama supported it.
2012-06-18 06:40:16 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: coco ebert: Um, his most successful legislative accomplishment- the Affordable Care Act, was originally a REPUBLICAN plan.

bull


No, not bull. The individual mandate was originally proposed by the super duper liberal Heritage Foundation think tank.
2012-06-18 06:31:35 PM
1 votes:
Obama telling Republicans what he was going to do would have been exactly like telling the Pakistanis what he was going to do.

In both cases, Obama wanted the mission to be successful.
2012-06-18 06:31:12 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: Rent Party: You can not unite with someone that does not wish to be with you. The GOP has made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in governing in any kind of bi-partisan manner.

Has Obama passed anything that isn't 100% liberal? I mean I watch the things he does and I cannot think of one thing I've agreed with. It's like a nonstop parade of horrible decisions.

Honestly where do these deluded propagandists get the idea that Obama has bent over backwards to appeal to Republicans - it's so false it's funny.


Um, his most successful legislative accomplishment- the Affordable Care Act, was originally a REPUBLICAN plan.
2012-06-18 06:30:20 PM
1 votes:

FrailChild: Has Obama passed anything that isn't 100% liberal?


Wtf does this even mean?
2012-06-18 06:13:23 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: I applaud Obama's action. It sets the precedent that the President can just ignore whatever laws he doesn't like, so when Romney is elected he can just stop enforcing Dodd-Frank, ignore the laws establishing the Education Department, dump the National Endowment for the Arts, and any of the other crap that people thought they had to have bipartisan support to change.

Thanks, Obama Imperium!


The two time Bush voter and supporter doesn't like executive orders or signing statements? What has changed?

Oh...
2012-06-18 06:11:38 PM
1 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: For one, now this type of 'temporary amnesty' plan has been shot all to hell. Any revamping or rewording is moot. If the idea was to frame legislation around Dream Act type of action, the President took it off the table. Another would be the distrust for the President after choosing to do this without consulting or even notifying Congress. Trying to pass a sweeping reform in immigration after a stunt like this will be even more difficult than before. Coming up with ideas which will pass with enough votes is going to be harder.


So your answer is that it doesn't actually make it harder to come up with ideas, it only makes it harder to come up with ideas the president doesn't like so you can attack him for not being tough or serious about X. Gotcha.

I would ask you about this, but the troll factor is too high.

Actually, quite frankly, that's exactly what I was saying. I want Obama to openly troll Republicans just to see them squirm. Granted, I was saying it tongue-in-cheek because I think the president should be doing things to benefit the people and not just to underscore how batsh*t insane Republicans are being, but it would be very funny if Obama just out and out trolled the very same people who said their number one priority, as a political party, is to make Obama a one-term president.
2012-06-18 06:09:31 PM
1 votes:
obligatory

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2012-06-18 06:04:43 PM
1 votes:

Dog Welder: It'd be even better if Obama endorsed Mitt Romney in the upcoming election.


BRILLIANT.

thebellhop.tripod.com
2012-06-18 06:00:21 PM
1 votes:

Kome: 3_Butt_Cheeks: See above. "Ideas" are easy. Try Congress

You wanna answer the question I actually posed to you, instead of whichever question you decided to answer?

How does the president doing anything make it more difficult to come up with ideas for how to solve problems, as you quoted Rubio saying and agreeing with.


Because if the President supports it, it makes it hard to justify supporting it as well. If only he had waited, then folks could claim that they forced the President to comply by dint of their wild populist support.

HOW DARE HE STEAL THE THUNDER?

Obama is just trolling Congress at this point...
2012-06-18 05:57:23 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: ignores clearly defined congressionally created immigration law and personally legalizes 800,000 illegal immigrants by presedential fiat. - not at all. NONE of these immigrants become "legal" they are just not going to be prosecuted. You are lying.


Unless, of course, they do something that would push them out of the "don't bother prosecuting" category. Like committing a felony or serious misdemeanor. So we're not wasting our resources hunting down the ones that are well integrated and well behaved, just the troublemakers.

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2012-06-18 05:56:57 PM
1 votes:

Kome: I almost want Obama to start coming out in open support of some Republican sponsored legislation, just to see the reaction by Republican politicians and Republican-media as they figure out how to respond to it. Either they pull support for their own ideas or they risk publicly agreeing with Obama after having spent his entire term as president denouncing everything he does and believes as absolutely and unequivocally wrong. I think that'd be funny to watch.


It'd be even better if Obama endorsed Mitt Romney in the upcoming election.
2012-06-18 05:52:55 PM
1 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: "The president's unilateral declaration on Friday, Sen. Rubio said, "sets back our efforts to arrive at a balanced and responsible approach to this issue. It poisons the well. It leads to mistrust. It makes it harder to come up with a long-term solution."

Pretty much this.


How does this "poison the well?" Who is mistrusting who as a result of this temporary stay in deportation for a subset of illegal immigrants? Congress can still pass any immigration law it wants.
2012-06-18 05:46:00 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: 3_Butt_Cheeks: "The president's unilateral declaration on Friday, Sen. Rubio said, "sets back our efforts to arrive at a balanced and responsible approach to this issue. It poisons the well. It leads to mistrust. It makes it harder to come up with a long-term solution."

Pretty much this.

Then why doesn't Mitt Romney come on out and say he would change this order if he was president? If it's so horrible like you say why is it OK for Romney to say he would keep it in effect?


Except he hasn't done that either. He's simply waffling because saying he would repeal the order would piss off the greasy Beaner Mexicans but saying he would keep it in place would piss off the white trash Cracker Rednecks.
2012-06-18 05:42:14 PM
1 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: "The president's unilateral declaration on Friday, Sen. Rubio said, "sets back our efforts to arrive at a balanced and responsible approach to this issue. It poisons the well. It leads to mistrust. It makes it harder to come up with a long-term solution."

Pretty much this.


So put pen back to paper and propose an alternative. The wounded act isn't fooling anyone. And nothing Obama did will prohibit others from submitting legislation.

"Mistrust" is the new "uncertainty." The GOP has nothing but vagueries to offer.
2012-06-18 05:41:29 PM
1 votes:
President Obama has recruited Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., to play the part of Mitt Romney in mock debates ahead of the three presidential debates in October, the Obama campaign has confirmed to CBS News.

The Washington Weeners reported the news. David Axelrod, Mr. Obama's chief strategist, told the Post that Kerry was an "obvious choice."


Obama just trolls Republicans full time now.
2012-06-18 05:37:51 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: In conceding that his own push was likely dead for now, Mr. Rubio also expressed anger at how the White House made its announcement Friday without consulting him or other members of the Republican Party.

You have GOT to be shiatting me...

All the Repubs do is torpedo ANYTHING attached to Obama, and they can't figure out why nobody TELLS them any more when things are in play?

They really ARE as stupid as they appear to be, aren't they?


Nah, they know exactly why Obama didn't tell them. Doesn't mean they won't complain about it, though.
 
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