This kind of shiat is exactly why people hate gypsies.

ordinarysteve: HailRobonia: ordinarysteve: Dude you can apply that logic to any poor, marginalized people.

There are many poor, marginalized people in the world who don't believe that crime is their god-given right.

Really? I think you are full of shiat. You find high crime rates in any poor areas. It's because they are POOR, not because they were divinely inspired to jack car stereos. Go to Compton, West Virginia, Bangladesh and you will find high crime rates. But you're right, it must be in their DNA, not the fact that they are poor.

Eh, it's about more than just crime statistics though. It's the culture and attitude that really gets me. I was hardly even aware of what a gypsy was when I came to Europe. Hell, you can't even call me racist because I didn't even KNOW if it were a race or not. My first experience was reading an article about 'gypsies' and their plight in the IrishTimes.

The article was absolutely maddening. And it was written to be PRO-Gipsy-Rights!

The attitudes and statistics presented were horrific. They were complaining that Doctors didn't like to treat them because they had no money and would frequently NOT SHOW UP TO APPOINTMENTS because TIMEKEEPING is hard. I wasn't sure if I was reading some kind of twisted satire or not. They were seriously complaining that the school system (free, public school system that allows anyone to get an education) was cold and unaccepting towards their lifestyle. Teachers would FAIL students because they hadn't been to class in MONTHS while their family travelled. Some lady complained that an art teacher showed the children how to draw a 'house' and not a trailer! I mean, holy crap - this is the injustice they face? Not showing up to class for months is frowned upon? And that art teachers draw houses that reflect the culture norms of the dominate culture?

Look, if your poor and can't afford to take your kids to the doctor - that's horrible. I feel for you. That can happen in the US. Not here though. They could take their kids for free. But it's TOO HARD TO SHOW UP. And they complain that WHEN THEY DO, the doctors aren't happy to see them! They were also suggesting color-coded pictures and crap in the hospitals because they can't read. They can't read because their parents decided not to let them go to school - and then they biatch about teachers failing their kids because they won't let their kid finish a whole academic year without 'travelling' around the country?

I have a hell of a lot more respect for a poor teenager selling drugs than I do for these guys.

ordinarysteve: Dude you can apply that logic to any poor, marginalized people.

There are many poor, marginalized people in the world who don't believe that crime is their god-given right.

Oh please, it's the Daily Mail. If it's not something completely blown out of proportion then it's something they made up.

Seriously, why do we even greenlight anything from that blatantly racist rag?

Can someone explain why the Brits seem to be such inept pansies when it comes to dealing with gypsies? Is it because the bureaucracy is so inefficient that the gypsies are able to essentially operate at will while the various authorities point fingers at each other?

In England, this calls for a stern letter for the authorities.

In America, those Gypsies would be tasting tasers in their buttcheeks and pepper spray across the eyes. (Even if they had a permit!)

And this is why America won the revolutionary war.

Gypsies are the one minority group where EVERYTHING bad that is said about them is true.

lordaction: Dogfacedgod: FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: I actually agree with you. Liberals talk about how evolution is correct and then turn around and do everything they can to reverse it. Every notice how liberal cities are all 3rd world hell holes? They devolve

Yes because Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, Chicago, etc. are hell holes. Other than Detroit and Gary, IN, what liberal cities are hell holes? Then let's compare them all to southern/conservative/red state cities of comparable size.

FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.


Congratulations, you are an uncivilized savage and are worse than a nomadic group of petty thieves.

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Quit parroting someone else's words. Tell me how YOU think and I will respect you more. For argument's sake however, I see the abyss and frankly I embrace it. I see the befit of destruction and rebuilding something stronger from the ashes. That is the formula of evolution and life itself. How the fark do you think the universe got to this point? It sure as shiat wasn't thoughts of fluffy kittens and rainbows sing kumbaya. Annihilation and death is a required necessity for the universe to grow, or all this becomes stagnant and rots away. Love is not the answer, Hatred for the weak is.

FarkinHostile: Congratulations, you are an uncivilized savage and are worse than a nomadic group of petty thieves.

Calling Gypsies petty thieves is like calling vampires mosquitoes.

I love this thread. I like how the mods erased a comment by some dude calling Irish folks "micks" and yet the comment above me can compare an entire people to cockroaches. If you're gonna get offended by one racist remark than how about applying that butthurt to all racist remarks. Or none.

Fareham Borough Council has been left to clear a huge amount of rubbish left by the travellers, including builders rubble and an old caravan.

Every time I read an article about Travellers in the Daily Fail, it seems like their entire culture is dedicated to being as dickish as possible: squatting wherever they can, including the homes of people on vacation, absoluting trashing the place and then moving on. I know the picture is horribly slanted, but I still get a WTF vibe off it. Seriously, even animals can figure out not to shiat where they live.

Ronin_S: What on earth were they trying to kidnap her for?

My guess? A lifetime of servitude and sexual abuse.

ordinarysteve: Fark_Guy_Rob: ordinarysteve: HailRobonia: ordinarysteve: I'm not saying that there aren't some messed up aspects of their culture but it's just that....their culture. This thread is full of people basking in the social acceptability of advocating hate against them. Do people think that they will help change that culture by reviling and loathing those lazy, shifty nomadic peoples? And for the record, agrarian people have always persecuted nomadic peoples and this whole "kill the gypsy" vibe smacks of that historical intolerance.

Yeah, it is their culture, we know it's their culture, their culture sucks, and it doesn't suck because people are mean to them.

/Agrarian culture, talk about over analyzing a problem

Anyone who has ever lived near a group of gypsies no they can't be trusted. I could tell stories about them all day long.

This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.

A spokeswoman for the force said: 'The issue was the highway there was blocked by all of the caravans.

'The only way to sort that out was to let them into the ground to turn around and let them out again.

'There were already caravans on the ground anyway so action will have to be taken to move on ones already there.

And we decided that one big pile of Gypsies was better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up we decided to throw ours down.

What in thell is a Gypsy?

Kind of remind me of Carnies without the merry go round.

How would the boys from Top Gear UK handle this?

"That's racist!"

People need to understand that gypsies/Irish travelers aren't just "white trash", they're like a seperate ethnic group with their own culture and code. Their culture includes travelling around in caravans, squatting on random pieces of land, making a huge mess of the place, scamming people, stealing anything that's not nailed down and not mixing with "outsiders". They teach their kids how to steal from a very young age and there is very little focus on education. Basically they contribute nothing to society, they just take everything they can. I don't know what American gypsies/pikeys are like but that's what they're like in the UK and Europe. Cry "discrimination!" all you want but you'd be a fool to trust a gypsy, hatred/distrust of them is pretty understandable, they only have themselves to blame.

A friend of my sister-in-law is a florist in Hampshire. She was hired to do the flowers for a gypsy wedding and they ordered thousands of pounds worth. When it came to the day she delivered the flowers and a pikey paid her - £500, 20% of what she was owed. He said, in full view of the glorious flowers, that they were wilted and dying and that they weren't going to pay. She argued and a few of them escorted her back to her van and told her that they could always take back the £500 if she didn't want it. She left and chalked it up to experience.

The florist has a part-time assistant who works weekends for her. As it turns out, the assistant works part-time as a barmaid in a local pikey watering hole and is friendly with them. Eventually it got back to the pikeys that someone they were friends with worked for the florist they'd ripped off. One day the florist got an envelope with £2k in cash put through her door. The pikeys viewed it as dishonourable to have ripped off someone they were even tenuously connected to. It's fine to rip off complete strangers though.

In short, fark pikeys.

Checked a few of those links at random, found plenty that didn't mention Romani in the persons actual article. The link for Jovan Damjanović was for a soccer player, not "the first Romani appointed as minister in a government anywhere in the world."

My only personal experience in dealing with gypsies was a trip to Europe my senior year. Our tour guide was amazed that we all made it through the entire trip with no one being pickpocketed.

PsiChick: Flakeloaf: JPSimonetti: So they're costing the city more by making a mess, than it would save the city to simply let it go and clean up after them? Seems like it's an awful lot of resources going into stopping these people from ... littering?

, camping illegally on public land, unlawfully keeping other people off of the land their taxes pay for, stealing water and electricity, running around the surrounding area making jerks of themselves, stinking, littering, attracting other vermin and causing a public health nuisance...

Making the city Council look like racists...

/No, wait, they're doing that on their own
//It really is not worth the bad PR.

Perditax: Ah, the thread where people think it's perfectly acceptable to hate people based on their race. Because all Romani are criminals. Anyone here with Hungarian ancestry? If so, your odds of having Romani blood are pretty decent. But I'm sure there's no one at all with any Romani ancestry posting on FARK. They're probably all out committing crimes, yes?

When a good portion of a given population are participating in behaviors that confirm and reinforce negative stereotypes about that population, it makes it easier to accept. Someone who says all black people are lazy, uneducated criminals can be proven wrong with examples like Neil Degrasse Tyson or Obama. I would love to be proven wrong, but I have never met or heard of a gypsy who has contributed anything to the world.

Perditax: Anyone here with Hungarian ancestry? If so, your odds of having Romani criminal blood are pretty decent.

ordinarysteve: I am a very un-PC person but you'd think a newspaper would call them Romani or something. They have faced tons of persecution in the past for being "gypsies". Not that they aren't being arseholes but the press should hold themselves to higher standards

You're assuming the Mail is a newspaper. It isn't; it's a propaganda vehicle with the sole purpose of generating outrage among repressed older WASPs, mainly middle-class Britons and Americans, to push the agendas of the ultra-rich. It succeeds marvelously, too.

LegacyDL: Isn't "gypsy" a derogatory term?

Yes, and its not nearly harsh enough.

Can you rocker Romany? Can you fake a bosh?




/fargin' Pikeys

pug306: My two cents about cases I'm familiar with:

Gaze upon the might of the mess caused by two (2) Gypsy families that were given land by the municipality right beside a shooting range in my neck of the woods. (Jump to 1:00)

Link

Long story short, the range was there first, the Gypsies don't like it so they vandalized it for years and then ended up burning it down. The city installed surveillance cameras and then just took them down after a couple of weeks because it's not as it it was a mystery who was doing the damage, but no one wants the grief of doing anything about it.

How much grief? Well, a year or two back, some gypsy ran a police roadblock in a stolen car and got himself shot. The gypsies went nuts and sacked several villages, smashing up shops, burning down buildings and cutting down trees. Video or it didn't happen? Okay.

Link

Oh, and they burned down a police station, too.

Link

Charming folks.

If that's France, why hasn't the country just treated them like terrorists? I believe that country has a certain group of people who are allowed to be armed and able to take these kinds of criminals out.

Mouser: Magorn: Dogfacedgod: This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.

you get a hard-in writing that? A pity you were born about 80 years too late. A guy named Himmler would have had a dream job for you

Well, to be fair, Germany doesn't have a serious Gypsy problem these days...

Hitler had alot of Bad Ideas, but killing Gypsies wasn't one of them.

You know what's more unpleasant than Hitler? Having to acknowledge that Hitler was right about something besides public works projects, and wishing that he had put forth more gusto in the matter.

And this from a Jew (by conversion, not ethnicity).

sethstorm: Nightsweat: This is why the US doesn't have Gypsy problems.

We just have illegal problems. But the same thing can be applied to both.

:Data show immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than
the native-born, a pattern confirmed by a
2008 study of data from California:

Coelacanth: shtychkn: Not that I should join in. but aside from poverty and DNA, there is also culture to look at. Ones culture influences their actions.

It might be DNA in the case of Irish Travelers. Half of the men don't live past forty. That's an indicator of something.

Stab wounds are not a genetic condition.

My two cents about cases I'm familiar with:

Gaze upon the might of the mess caused by two (2) Gypsy families that were given land by the municipality right beside a shooting range in my neck of the woods. (Jump to 1:00)

Link

Long story short, the range was there first, the Gypsies don't like it so they vandalized it for years and then ended up burning it down. The city installed surveillance cameras and then just took them down after a couple of weeks because it's not as it it was a mystery who was doing the damage, but no one wants the grief of doing anything about it.

How much grief? Well, a year or two back, some gypsy ran a police roadblock in a stolen car and got himself shot. The gypsies went nuts and sacked several villages, smashing up shops, burning down buildings and cutting down trees. Video or it didn't happen? Okay.

Link

Oh, and they burned down a police station, too.

Link

Charming folks.

FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: Quit parroting someone else's words. Tell me how YOU think and I will respect you more.

Hey idiot, did you miss:

"Congratulations, you are an uncivilized savage and are worse than a nomadic group of petty thieves."

Did bolding and enlarging it help? THAT is what I think of your post. The Nietzsche quote is one of my favorites and perfectly sums up my philosophy when shiatheads like you come in and start telling your Genocide/murder/rape fantasies.

Let me guess; you get all hot and bothered when you think about child molesters getting raped in prison, right?

FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: Annihilation and death is a required necessity for the universe to grow, or all this becomes stagnant and rots away.


Does your mom know you are using the computer, BTW?

Ah yes, logical fallacies is the only weapon the witless use in a battle of wits. Name calling aside, I see that you are incapable of engaging in any sort of rational dialog, but I will part with you some words of wisdom I think would behoove you to think about. While my thoughts may seem frightening, "sick" and on the fringe of today's societal norms, if you truly take a honest look at the history of mankind, Nature, including the universe, you will see weak links like these gypsies (and other aforementioned trash), slow/injured gazelle, a dying star are considered in this universe and reality expendable and obsolete. And "nature takes it's course". Somehow in the last 100 years we lost that about ourselves. Yes, maybe Hitler (or the Jew's continual victimization of the holocaust) did ruin our "killer insect" and our true nature - the nature that made us kings, conquers, TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN (let that resonate in you for a bit). Hell, and this may be a hard truth to accept, maybe we plateaued as a species and the universe and mother earth needs to eliminate us like it did the dinosaurs.

I will tell you one thing though, this shiat we have going on now is destined to fail. We need to trim the fat so to speak, and the only logical solution is unfortunately (for the weak) to eliminate indiscriminately the weak link. Accepting the weak into the fold was the beginning of the end and our only chance for survival in this harsh reality is to re-discover our killer insect and cut away the rotting flesh and heal as a species so we can grow and evolve. We don't, we deserve our fate. Extinction.

Death is a good thing because it is the ultimate problem solver. However, It's time to put an end to the weak thinking and weak thinkers and make the choice whether or not we want to survive as a species.

Wow, holy shiat..I've been here for years and never realized Fark was home to so many complete badasses.

The More You Know ----=======>*

PillsHere: I'm wondering if it's the same community. It really wouldn't surprise me because they seemed like jerks.

Some of them are worst than jerks.

Irish Traveller to die behind bars after one scam too many Link

Irish Travelers could be running Gaston County scams Link

Police in Ohio city warn of Irish Travelers invasion Link

Harry Freakstorm: Wessoman
In England, this calls for a stern letter for the authorities.

In America, those Gypsies would be tasting tasers in their buttcheeks and pepper spray across the eyes. (Even if they had a permit!)

And this is why America won the revolutionary war.

They would be arrested and locked up. probably on a Friday night so they could spend the weekend in jail. Their money would be seized because they have a lot of it and it has drug residue on it. Shame. Monday morning, they would begin moving through the court system. Oh noes! You have warrants from other states. Let's hold you for a week until the other state decides not to extradite.

Their vehicles would be impounded in one lot. Their campers would be impounded in another lot. Lot A would charge $600 for towing the cars and $100 a night storage fee. The tires and decent parts would be stripped from the cars the very first night at impound.

The campers would be stored at Lot B for $500 a night and substantial damage would occur to them.

By the time they got out, their legal fees and expenses would make it impossible for them to bail their vehicles or campers out. The impound lots would seize the assets for the unpaid storage fees.

Of course, they would be no-shows for their court dates and there would be more warrants put out.

Oh but you're mistaken. We DO have Irish Travelers in America.

They don't do the same kind of squatting as they do in Europe and UK. Here in Texas, we have White Settlement, a town which serves as winter home of a group of Texas Travelers who emigrated from Ireland. They generally reside legally.

They still make money running driveway and roofing scams. When you hear on the news about some old lady being told she needs "fireproofing" to protect her roof, or "sealant" on her driveway, spray USED MOTOR OIL on it (this is standard procedure for these guys), then tell her she misunderstood and they're owed 5x more than what she thought was the original "price" from the first guy she talked with and badger the nice, easily confused old lady till she cries and hands over all the money she has, THAT is Traveler work right there, almost nobody else runs that scam. They drive all over doing this, looking for a vulnerable mark.

But the news won't SAY it. The public's not aware of it and basically they'd be accused of a) making stuff up- blaming the "gypsies"? Really? and/or b) making slanderous accusations against the Irish. Because the Travelers are Irish. So you can't say anything bad about them.

PillsHere: lordaction: Dogfacedgod: FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: I actually agree with you. Liberals talk about how evolution is correct and then turn around and do everything they can to reverse it. Every notice how liberal cities are all 3rd world hell holes? They devolve

Yes because Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, Chicago, etc. are hell holes. Other than Detroit and Gary, IN, what liberal cities are hell holes? Then let's compare them all to southern/conservative/red state cities of comparable size.

Well because SF has so many social progams to pay for we can't afford basic services without borrowing money. So yes we are slowly becoming a third world sanctuary city.

PillsHere: lordaction: Dogfacedgod: FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: I actually agree with you. Liberals talk about how evolution is correct and then turn around and do everything they can to reverse it. Every notice how liberal cities are all 3rd world hell holes? They devolve

Yes because Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, Chicago, etc. are hell holes. Other than Detroit and Gary, IN, what liberal cities are hell holes? Then let's compare them all to southern/conservative/red state cities of comparable size.

Hell, everyone you listed. Are you really being serious?

Fark_Guy_Rob: ordinarysteve: HailRobonia: ordinarysteve: Dude you can apply that logic to any poor, marginalized people.

There are many poor, marginalized people in the world who don't believe that crime is their god-given right.

Really? I think you are full of shiat. You find high crime rates in any poor areas. It's because they are POOR, not because they were divinely inspired to jack car stereos. Go to Compton, West Virginia, Bangladesh and you will find high crime rates. But you're right, it must be in their DNA, not the fact that they are poor.

Eh, it's about more than just crime statistics though. It's the culture and attitude that really gets me. I was hardly even aware of what a gypsy was when I came to Europe. Hell, you can't even call me racist because I didn't even KNOW if it were a race or not. My first experience was reading an article about 'gypsies' and their plight in the IrishTimes.

The article was absolutely maddening. And it was written to be PRO-Gipsy-Rights!

The attitudes and statistics presented were horrific. They were complaining that Doctors didn't like to treat them because they had no money and would frequently NOT SHOW UP TO APPOINTMENTS because TIMEKEEPING is hard. I wasn't sure if I was reading some kind of twisted satire or not. They were seriously complaining that the school system (free, public school system that allows anyone to get an education) was cold and unaccepting towards their lifestyle. Teachers would FAIL students because they hadn't been to class in MONTHS while their family travelled. Some lady complained that an art teacher showed the children how to draw a 'house' and not a trailer! I mean, holy crap - this is the injustice they face? Not showing up to class for months is frowned upon? And that art teachers draw houses that reflect the culture norms of the dominate culture?

Look, if your poor and can't afford to take your kids to the doctor - that's horrible. I feel for you. That can happen in the US. Not here ...

I'm not saying that there aren't some messed up aspects of their culture but it's just that....their culture. This thread is full of people basking in the social acceptability of advocating hate against them. Do people think that they will help change that culture by reviling and loathing those lazy, shifty nomadic peoples? And for the record, agrarian people have always persecuted nomadic peoples and this whole "kill the gypsy" vibe smacks of that historical intolerance.

Coelacanth: Dude, defending Gypsies is like defending the Manson Family.

I am NOT defending gypsies.

Dogfacedgod: FarkinHostile: Dogfacedgod: This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.


Congratulations, you are an uncivilized savage and are worse than a nomadic group of petty thieves.

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Quit parroting someone else's words. Tell me how YOU think and I will respect you more. For argument's sake however, I see the abyss and frankly I embrace it. I see the befit of destruction and rebuilding something stronger from the ashes. That is the formula of evolution and life itself. How the fark do you think the universe got to this point? It sure as shiat wasn't thoughts of fluffy kittens and rainbows sing kumbaya. Annihilation and death is a required necessity for the universe to grow, or all this becomes stagnant and rots away. Love is not the answer, Hatred for the weak is.

I actually agree with you. Liberals talk about how evolution is correct and then turn around and do everything they can to reverse it. Every notice how liberal cities are all 3rd world hell holes? They devolve.

Repeat from 1971

FarkinHostile: Perhaps, but I don't see any of them fantasizing about torture and genocide.

They don't have time to fantasize about anything. They're too busy kidnapping children and ripping off senior citizens. Dude, defending Gypsies is like defending the Manson Family.

ordinarysteve: But you're right, it must be in their DNA, not the fact that they are poor.

I said no such thing. I was stating that poverty does not magically turn you into a criminal.

Spiralmonkey: This is the law as it applies to Romany and Irish travellers FindLawUK. It all seems very reasonable, and allows for the Human Rights Act, but the problem is that the travellers are rarely reasonable. Or law-abiding. They have been allowed to behave appallingly because every time one of them is arrested they claim they are being victimised based on race - not, apparently, based on the truckload of stolen goods they are driving (without tax or insurance).

ALL OF THIS

I'm sure that somewhere there are romany and Irish travellers that turn up, park their vehicles, crime doesn't go up and they leave without making a mess, but I've never yet seen or heard of them. Live and let live, I say. If people want to live a nomadic lifestyle then be my guest. Just don't be a coont about it.

In one case, they parked right on a green hill. It then rained, they were evicted, so drove off, damaging the grass (the residents ended up going up there to flatten it out). Oh, and of course, they left all their rubbish. The other case, when they left, so did a load of new trees.

We heard a rumour that some gypsies had been checking out a field near us. We basically organised a watch on it with 3 people at a time guarding the field. If they tried to go in there, they'd have to drive over people and be filmed doing so. We were not going to have them anywhere near us. We then clubbed together and got a metal fence put behind the wooden one. Drive in the field now, but your vehicles are going to be in a pretty bad state if you do.

ordinarysteve: El Brujo: ordinarysteve: I love this thread. I like how the mods erased a comment by some dude calling Irish folks "micks" and yet the comment above me can compare an entire people to cockroaches. If you're gonna get offended by one racist remark than how about applying that butthurt to all racist remarks. Or none.

I suppose that was a bit racist. In context though, if you find yourself in a Spanish city plaza, while crowded, watch the gypsy kids doing the pickpocketing. You'll soon realize that the whole plaza is surrounded with gypsies. And if you are going to fight with one, you will likely have a fight with many.

In Spain racism toward the Roma (Gitanos, Gypsies) is very much alive and public. As an American who knew nothing about them, what I perceived about their culture in Southern Spain is that 1) they do not work 2) they exist on the literal fringe of society 3) they take what they can, whether it is rightly theirs or not...thievery is a large part of their "trade" if you will.

Dude you can apply that logic to any poor, marginalized people. When you look at the people and not the socio-economic factors, then you might be a racist.

Yes but socio-economic factors do not steal your wallet then slash you with a blade or broken bottle when you try to get it back. People do. Painting with a wide brush and all of that...you spend some time in Andalucia and then assess what your experience with this culture / people is.

meanmutton: Silly Jesus: I love it when someone is speaking about prejudices and at some point during their diatribe they say something about "getting gyped" or "paddy wagon" without even realizing it. I've heard it on more than one occasion.

"_______s have been gyped out of their rights by the prejudiced members of society. The prejudiced think the only solution is to throw every ________ into the paddy wagon, and hide them away....."

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Dogfacedgod: This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.

thank god you didn't say MICK PADDY TAIG POGUE or your comment may have gotten deleted.

Dogfacedgod: This may sound bad, but I would totally sign up as a hunter\killer to help eradicate the earth of these scummy types of "humans". They are a drain on our resources and a detriment to the welfare of our species - completely worthless. Gypsies, gang bangers, trashy types and other SPECIFIC ethnic groups need to be hunted down and shot dead like rabid animals. Honestly think about it for second, how fun and satisfying would it be able to watch these roaches scatter as you come gunning in wasting these low lifes Terminator style? The terror within their screams as they watch their people get exterminated methodically would fuel me like nothing else in life. Oh, and especially with the ones you capture; the kind of torture you could bring down upon them before you end their miserable existence would be so glorious. Truthfully, this world really needs this type of brutality to get us as a society to progress forward by eliminating these cancers unmercifully.

I dream and I visualize this one day happening. I just hope one day I can see this coming into fruition.


Congratulations, you are an uncivilized savage and are worse than a nomadic group of petty thieves.

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Gypsies: they're like Jews without the money, intelligence, charm, or abilities.

Kari Wuhrer as a Gypsy in Thinner


Even better scene involving Kari Wuhrer from Thinner PNSFW (new window)

Snakeophelia: I'm completely mindboggled every time I hear of something like this. Can't wrap my head around the idea that someone stepping foot, or staying put, on land that isn't theirs is NOT a criminal offense. If it isn't, then what exactly does it mean to "own" land? Or for land to be "public" property?

You've got to remember the origin of it. By the time the U.S. got to setting up it's property laws private property was more of an established thing than when the Brits were doing it. Originally the commons were where anyone could graze. Your land was wherever you set up a house, as long as someone else wasn't there first. The history of the modern state has been how public, un-owned land has been fenced in and turned into private property.

If you really think about it, in a world where there wasn't a concept of private property it took a really big set of balls to say, 'Hey guys, I know we've always shared, but now this piece of land over here, you can't use it.' Even when it was a group of people making a decision to divide the land up (it was frequently one person with a bunch of thugs), what, fundamentally, gave them the right, without the consent of everyone, everywhere?

We still have laws that date back to this. If you build upriver from someone you can't take water from the river unless you make sure there is still enough for them to draw as much water as they have historically used. Mineral rights can be sold separately from land rights. It's possible to own the right to build a house on a piece of land, and for someone else to have the right to set up a pipe to suck the oil reserves out from under you if you only own some of the rights.

I tend to agree that the British need to reform their squatters rights, but at the same time, we rent mineral rights, grazing rights, water rights, etc. on public land, land owned by the people of the country collectively, for a fraction of their value to people who pay off the right politician, so we could use some reform too.

Welfare Xmas: Never trust a Gypsy, Romany, or Tinker.

The Tinkers are ok. They follow the Way of the Leaf.

As Holocaust victims, these poor wandering Gypsies really need a Homeland.

Surely there must be room to share for a few folks with their trailers.

No?

Silly Jesus: It's not necessarily because of who they are. Trespass is a civil matter, not a criminal one, in Britain. Different processes for handling it than there are here.

...so if I can't find a parking space in the UK, I can just park in a lawn (for at least for as long as it would take to file a lawsuit)?

accelerus: I'm guessing this is Europe's closest approximation to the white trailer trash we have here in the US?

You mean squatters? I don't think there is anything quite like it in the US (or at least as common) -- because here it would get you arrested and your vehicles impounded/sold very quickly.

silverjets: Why do they need to start court proceedings to get them removed?

Just farking tow them.

If some idiot parked their car in the same field, would the council start court proceedings? No, they'd have the idiot towed. No difference.

It's not necessarily because of who they are. Trespass is a civil matter, not a criminal one, in Britain. Different processes for handling it than there are here.

tl;dr The British are pansy morans.

I really wouldn't mind seeing a return to the days when if you did stupid crap like this they just send in an armored squad of guys to beat the living shiat out of everyone there. You could probably spare the women and children (as long as they didn't get violent themselves)

I'm guessing this is Europe's closest approximation to the white trailer trash we have here in the US?

This article combined with the others I've seen about bands of gypsies taking over and squatting in already owned homes - it's amazing to me how little property laws over there mean. the problem is there hasn't been a single example set. Just one or two times of going over and seriously kicking all their asses and tossing them into the street and squatters and gypsies everywhere would think twice about doing it.

My friend's father who is in the Spanish Guardia Civil warned us not to punch a gypsy in the mouth lest you cut your knuckle and contract a blood pathogen.

/doesn't like the Gypsy.
//did not punch one. Like a roach, where there is one there are thirty.
///they get stabby, too.

Silly Jesus: optional: Silly Jesus: I love it when someone is speaking about prejudices and at some point during their diatribe they say something about "getting gyped" or "paddy wagon" without even realizing it. I've heard it on more than one occasion.

"_______s have been gyped out of their rights by the prejudiced members of society. The prejudiced think the only solution is to throw every ________ into the paddy wagon, and hide them away....."

Ric Romero reporting in to say that the meaning of words can change.

So they are no longer offensive? I'd missed that memo.


To most people, no, they are not. If you choose to be offended, that's your business of course. You could choose to be offended by the word "paper" -- but don't be surprised if most people find it strange.

In Italy they would have just bulldozed the campsite

redmid17: Cyclometh: redmid17: Great Janitor: Cyclometh: So, why not get a few people with a halfway decent stereo system in their car to play really loud, obnoxious music all day and night?

I'm sure Fark can come up with a suitable playlist.

Why a playlist when we could reinact that episode of the Drew Carey show with repeated plays of the song 'Panama'?

They could just show re-runs of Family Guy

Just blast their version of "Bird is the Word" all night.

I never even thought a show could make me stop watching based on one plot point. Family Guy proved me wrong.

I, somehow, made it through that episode, and stopped maybe half way through the Brian and Stewie locked in the bank vault episode and never went back. Brian eating Stewie's poo was it for me.

Gosh I guess they're just stuck there unless someone INVENTS THE farkING TOW TRUCK.

Cyclometh: redmid17: Great Janitor: Cyclometh: So, why not get a few people with a halfway decent stereo system in their car to play really loud, obnoxious music all day and night?

I'm sure Fark can come up with a suitable playlist.

Why a playlist when we could reinact that episode of the Drew Carey show with repeated plays of the song 'Panama'?

They could just show re-runs of Family Guy

Just blast their version of "Bird is the Word" all night.

What you are describing violates the Geneva Convention.

/but this isn't a war, so I'm thinking it's a good idea

optional: Silly Jesus: I love it when someone is speaking about prejudices and at some point during their diatribe they say something about "getting gyped" or "paddy wagon" without even realizing it. I've heard it on more than one occasion.

"_______s have been gyped out of their rights by the prejudiced members of society. The prejudiced think the only solution is to throw every ________ into the paddy wagon, and hide them away....."

Ric Romero reporting in to say that the meaning of words can change.

Except that they haven't and they're still racial slurs.

Why do they need to start court proceedings to get them removed?

Just farking tow them.

If some idiot parked their car in the same field, would the council start court proceedings? No, they'd have the idiot towed. No difference.

cretinbob: I'm sorry, I found this to be much more amusing

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Is that so you don't lose your shoes when...wait, what???

I stayed in Sevilla for a while for school. There are loads of Gypsies down there...real ones (Romani) who trace their race back from India as it crisscrossed it's way through central Europe and down into Spain. They are not white.

Do the Travellers in the UK have any real ties to the Romani? Or are they gypsies in the sense that many 70's rockers were gypsies.

/white trash?

demonfaerie: [img.poptower.com image 450x338]

What an American gypsy looks like.

Also there is a good chance they are underage, but that's ok in their culture for an older man to marry a 15 year old.

Yep, in college I was a fhm at this crappy diner. All the servers were hs students, and one was straight up gypsy.(she looked like the one in front) She told me her mom could read cards, and she had the hots for me and she was like 16. Always hugging me and asking for rides home after work. Absofarkinglutly not.

Irish travelers or Romani, doesn't matter, they're all scum. Let 'em rot.

Never trust a Gypsy, Romany, or Tinker.

I am a very un-PC person but you'd think a newspaper would call them Romani or something. They have faced tons of persecution in the past for being "gypsies". Not that they aren't being arseholes but the press should hold themselves to higher standards

Wangiss: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 450x338]

What an American gypsy looks like.

Also there is a good chance they are underage, but that's ok in their culture for an older man to marry a 15 year old.

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/Bricktop

Hated that movie.

You are a bad person and should feel bad.

Flakeloaf: , camping illegally on public land, unlawfully keeping other people off of the land their taxes pay for, stealing water and electricity, running around the surrounding area making jerks of themselves, stinking, littering, attracting other vermin and causing a public health nuisance...

See, those ARE criminal offenses though. Well, some of them. They can be easily proven. Why haven't they just gone in and tossed them all in jail unless they actually aren't doing anything other than the equivalent of American squatting (which is what it sounds like)? If they were actually breaking laws, ... well ... you know. American squatters have this down to an art.

I don't get this whole Gypsie thing. The wife watched that gypsie wedding show, though, and I agree that the young chicks are hot. That's what's important.

Directly disobeying a police officer to commit a crime is no type of crime itself there?

Approves.

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Nothing a few well placed molotovs wouldn't fix.

This. How difficult would it be for the neighbors to declare a localized Exterminatus on the whole field.

I just watched that My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding show yesterday for the first time. I didn't know much about gypsies before that other than the old stereotypes, but I must say, while they are completely weird and crazy, their women are for the most part fairly hot - at least a lot of the ones on the show are. Of course they're all jail bait.

Trespass is a civil matter? Morans.

thinnnnerrrrrr

Fer me mum.