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2012-06-18 10:05:14 AM  
List still fails without Cordelia Vorkosigan.
 
2012-06-18 10:07:15 AM  
OK, how the hell did Kitiara Uth Matar not make either list?
 
2012-06-18 10:10:08 AM  
I was going to complain about Esme Weatherwax not making the list, but then I saw the original list. Number one spot on the original list? Now that's an appropriate fit.
 
2012-06-18 10:11:15 AM  
No Daenerys Targaryen?
 
2012-06-18 10:11:56 AM  
Maybe I didn't see the original list? :(
 
2012-06-18 10:12:41 AM  

Millennium: List still fails without Cordelia Vorkosigan.


The list is fantasy genre only, no sci fi. I was about to bemoan the lack of Honor Harrington until I re-read the introduction paragraph.
 
2012-06-18 10:14:00 AM  
List fails without Bella Everdeen.
 
2012-06-18 10:15:07 AM  
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2012-06-18 10:16:39 AM  
Just actually started reading the Raymond E. Feist books again, and read Daughter of the Empire last week.

/Getting a kick
 
2012-06-18 10:17:16 AM  

SithLord: No Daenerys Targaryen?


Book Spoiler

Wandering through the desert shiatting yourself isn't really all that badass

End Book Spoiler
 
2012-06-18 10:17:37 AM  

mikieb: Millennium: List still fails without Cordelia Vorkosigan.

The list is fantasy genre only, no sci fi. I was about to bemoan the lack of Honor Harrington until I re-read the introduction paragraph.


True, but bringing the heads of your husband's adversaries back in shopping bags and dumping them out on the battle planning table might be the definition of feminine badassedness.
 
2012-06-18 10:22:18 AM  
Yeah, Cordelia's Honor was a great novel. The whole Vorkosigan Saga series is good.
 
2012-06-18 10:27:08 AM  
List fails without Bella from Twilight.

/trololololol
//*runs*
 
2012-06-18 10:28:55 AM  

Hoboclown: SithLord: No Daenerys Targaryen?

Book Spoiler

Wandering through the desert shiatting yourself isn't really all that badass

End Book Spoiler


Yeah but her takeover of Astapor (I think that is where the unsullied are from) was pretty damn badass.
 
2012-06-18 10:33:00 AM  
I approve.
 
2012-06-18 10:38:58 AM  

Last Man on Earth: I was going to complain about Esme Weatherwax not making the list, but then I saw the original list. Number one spot on the original list? Now that's an appropriate fit.


Same here, but instead of Granny Weatherwax it was Polgara the Sorceress. She should have been tied for #1.
 
2012-06-18 10:46:21 AM  
Karrin Murphy, ex cop who comes to rule part of Chicago by threat alone.
 
2012-06-18 10:54:55 AM  
The list fails without Eowyn of Rohan. She killed the Lord of the Nazgûls with her sword. That sounds pretty badassed to me.
 
2012-06-18 10:55:24 AM  
I lost interest in the Sword of Truth series about halfway thru the third book, but i'm still fond of the Mord-Sith.
 
2012-06-18 10:59:11 AM  

Muta: The list fails without Eowyn of Rohan. She killed the Lord of the Nazgûls with her sword. That sounds pretty badassed to me.


Which is why she was included in the first list.
 
2012-06-18 11:05:14 AM  

Spaced Lion: Muta: The list fails without Eowyn of Rohan. She killed the Lord of the Nazgûls with her sword. That sounds pretty badassed to me.

Which is why she was included in the first list.


I thought Merry's stab to the back of the knee was what allowed that to happen. Now I'm gonna need to reread those books again.
 
2012-06-18 11:08:43 AM  
Grianne and Brin Ohmsford. Either one could destroy just by singing.
 
2012-06-18 11:15:42 AM  
Morainne was badass.
 
2012-06-18 11:24:29 AM  
I have to say, between this and the first list, they have a really solid group. I'm particularly fond of the Sabrial books.
 
2012-06-18 11:25:29 AM  
I'm pleased to see the inclusion of Granny Weatherwax, and the lack of Vorkosigans is explained by the genre - but I'm shocked that Monza Murcatto, of Best Served Cold didn't make the list.
 
2012-06-18 11:29:32 AM  

Hoboclown: SithLord: No Daenerys Targaryen?

Book Spoiler

Wandering through the desert shiatting yourself isn't really all that badass

End Book Spoiler


Depending on Book Six and Seven, she has badass potential with her dragons.
 
2012-06-18 11:29:52 AM  
List fails without Aenea
 
2012-06-18 11:49:44 AM  

Usurper4: Grianne and Brin Ohmsford. Either one could destroy just by singing.


So, you are saying they were just pop stars then?

/Pop music could be used as a weapon.
//Cruel and inhuman though.
 
2012-06-18 11:51:04 AM  
List needs Vin from mistborne.

Although I am glad they did not try to inlcude Katniss. She turned into such a whinwy coont in the 2nd and 3rd books.
 
2012-06-18 12:01:26 PM  
List fails by including a (semi) Feist book, even though it's from back before he sucked and whored himself out for money.
 
2012-06-18 12:15:32 PM  

texdent: Morainne was badass.


Egewene (how the hell do you spell or say that name?) was pretty badass too. The scene where she was defending the white tower from seanchan was pretty awesome.
 
2012-06-18 12:17:20 PM  
Song of ice and Fire spoilers alert...


Aria Stark is turning into a badass too, her assassination of the merchant with a poisoned coin was pretty cool.
 
2012-06-18 01:40:26 PM  
No Karrin Murphy from the Dresden Files?

Come on, Lt. Murphy is as close as a mere mortal person can get to being a Vampire-hunting Valkyrie. I think Dresden even says that at one point.
 
2012-06-18 01:47:26 PM  

IronJelly: No Karrin Murphy from the Dresden Files?

Come on, Lt. Murphy is as close as a mere mortal person can get to being a Vampire-hunting Valkyrie. I think Dresden even says that at one point.


prjindigo: Karrin Murphy, ex cop who comes to rule part of Chicago by threat alone.


I completely agree, but I'm assuming the author was limiting it to more-or-less "traditional" fantasy settings, not modern or urban fantasy settings. That or he hasn't read Dresden Files. Otherwise she'd absolutely top the list.
 
2012-06-18 02:02:07 PM  
HeartBurnKid : OK, how the hell did Kitiara Uth Matar not make either list?

I didn't even look at the list, but had a feeling that she wouldn't be on it, and that someone in the thread would mention it.

Now I feel like a damned psychic.
 
2012-06-18 02:06:35 PM  
How about the lady from Prometheus who gives herself an abortion then immediately runs around and kicks some space alien's butts?
 
2012-06-18 02:19:45 PM  

Last Man on Earth: IronJelly: No Karrin Murphy from the Dresden Files?

Come on, Lt. Murphy is as close as a mere mortal person can get to being a Vampire-hunting Valkyrie. I think Dresden even says that at one point.

prjindigo: Karrin Murphy, ex cop who comes to rule part of Chicago by threat alone.

I completely agree, but I'm assuming the author was limiting it to more-or-less "traditional" fantasy settings, not modern or urban fantasy settings. That or he hasn't read Dresden Files. Otherwise she'd absolutely top the list.


Betting its the "no guns" limit on the genre. Which is dumb since we've had them for more than two thousand years.
 
2012-06-18 02:20:31 PM  
Arilyn Moonblade - sneaks into enemy building only to challenge her target in a duel.... not kill them in their sleep, which is what most assassins would do.


I'd put Danica the Monk from R.A. Salvatore's Cleric Quintet... but I don't think being a Mary Sue qualifies as badass...
 
2012-06-18 02:25:23 PM  
Love me some strong women in fantasy lit.

Still, it bugs me that most of them are women who take on traditionally male roles and behavior, and the women who don't do so are frequently portrayed as silly, foolish, and irrational, especially once they have kids. Catelyn Stark seems strong at first, but is as silly as Sansa once her kids are threatened... and she's one of the stronger fantasy mothers out there.

I don't want to read about someone who stays home and cares for the manor and kids all the time, male or female. I'd just like to see more secondary characters who manage to be both strong and feminine. There's no need for a woman to "act like a man" to be strong.
 
2012-06-18 02:31:03 PM  
I was going to say the list fails without Paks, but then saw she was #1.

/now I have more books to read
 
2012-06-18 04:21:25 PM  

wingedkat: Love me some strong women in fantasy lit.

Still, it bugs me that most of them are women who take on traditionally male roles and behavior, and the women who don't do so are frequently portrayed as silly, foolish, and irrational, especially once they have kids... I'd just like to see more secondary characters who manage to be both strong and feminine. There's no need for a woman to "act like a man" to be strong.


Have you read any of the Kushiel's Legacy books? Phedre sounds like she'd be right up your alley (as it were).
 
2012-06-18 05:43:55 PM  

Shedim: wingedkat: Love me some strong women in fantasy lit.

Still, it bugs me that most of them are women who take on traditionally male roles and behavior, and the women who don't do so are frequently portrayed as silly, foolish, and irrational, especially once they have kids... I'd just like to see more secondary characters who manage to be both strong and feminine. There's no need for a woman to "act like a man" to be strong.

Have you read any of the Kushiel's Legacy books? Phedre sounds like she'd be right up your alley (as it were).


I was just about to make the same complaint, and recommend the same set of books. Props to you both.

In Adult fantasy: Rachel from Sharon Shinn's Archangel
In YA fantasy: Nita and Dairine Callahan, of Diane Duane's Young Wizards series; Cassie Blake, of L.J. Smith's Secret Circle series.
 
2012-06-18 06:15:06 PM  

TheKillingJoke: Arilyn Moonblade - sneaks into enemy building only to challenge her target in a duel.... not kill them in their sleep, which is what most assassins would do.


I'd put Danica the Monk from R.A. Salvatore's Cleric Quintet... but I don't think being a Mary Sue qualifies as badass...


So all of the Seven Sisters are out as well.

/Along with pretty much any female lead in the Harpers series?
 
2012-06-18 09:11:26 PM  
I'll just leave this here.
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2012-06-18 11:15:18 PM  

TommyDeuce: TheKillingJoke: Arilyn Moonblade - sneaks into enemy building only to challenge her target in a duel.... not kill them in their sleep, which is what most assassins would do.


I'd put Danica the Monk from R.A. Salvatore's Cleric Quintet... but I don't think being a Mary Sue qualifies as badass...

So all of the Seven Sisters are out as well.

/Along with pretty much any female lead in the Harpers series?


I know that D&D Monks are awesome, but Danica seems to keep getting abilities that I don't remember being available to Monks. Sure, I could get her being able to headbutt a stone in half, pushing poison out of her system is a bit of stretch but faking death to resist being transformed into a vampire?

Bronwyn (not really badass, she's more clever and cool) and Arilyn do have weaknesses and have been beat before. Despite having a ultra-mega cool artifact, Arilyn's Moonblade doesn't go overboard with the abilities, except for that one time they brought all the former users souls out to fight...

Either that or I just really think Elaine Cunningham writes waaay better than R.A. "Mary Sues, Deux Ex Machina up the wazoo and long overdrawn fights" Salvatore
 
2012-06-19 12:19:27 AM  
Where is Tika Majere? Brienne the Beauty?

If I ever finish my damn book, there will be a couple more to add to the list.
 
2012-06-19 06:20:35 AM  
Forgot to add any major female role written by Mary Gentle, ever, but especially Ash , who gets style points for largely acting like a normal human being, rather than a plot device, power-box, or reader fantasy.
 
2012-06-19 11:20:08 AM  

Shedim: Have you read any of the Kushiel's Legacy books? Phedre sounds like she'd be right up your alley (as it were).


Oh yes, and Phedre is a good one. Talia in Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series is a more domestic example, as well as Fawn in Lois McMaster Bujold's Sharing knife novels and Ista in Paladin of Souls.

Don't misunderstand, I was raised on books featuring ladies who leave their "expected" positions to take up swords and battle, and I love them. Lately though, I've realized that when someone says a woman is "strong" they frequently seem to mean "masculine", and its started to bug me.
 
2012-06-19 11:21:13 AM  

supageil: I was just about to make the same complaint, and recommend the same set of books. Props to you both.

In Adult fantasy: Rachel from Sharon Shinn's Archangel
In YA fantasy: Nita and Dairine Callahan, of Diane Duane's Young Wizards series; Cassie Blake, of L.J. Smith's Secret Circle series.


Oooh, good. Haven't read those!
 
2012-06-19 11:46:13 AM  

TheKillingJoke: TommyDeuce: TheKillingJoke: Arilyn Moonblade - sneaks into enemy building only to challenge her target in a duel.... not kill them in their sleep, which is what most assassins would do.


I'd put Danica the Monk from R.A. Salvatore's Cleric Quintet... but I don't think being a Mary Sue qualifies as badass...

So all of the Seven Sisters are out as well.

/Along with pretty much any female lead in the Harpers series?

I know that D&D Monks are awesome, but Danica seems to keep getting abilities that I don't remember being available to Monks. Sure, I could get her being able to headbutt a stone in half, pushing poison out of her system is a bit of stretch but faking death to resist being transformed into a vampire?

Bronwyn (not really badass, she's more clever and cool) and Arilyn do have weaknesses and have been beat before. Despite having a ultra-mega cool artifact, Arilyn's Moonblade doesn't go overboard with the abilities, except for that one time they brought all the former users souls out to fight...

Either that or I just really think Elaine Cunningham writes waaay better than R.A. "Mary Sues, Deux Ex Machina up the wazoo and long overdrawn fights" Salvatore


Which reminds me I left out the Forgotten Realms cute little walking weapon of mass destruction Shandril Shessair.

/Possibly the highest kill count in the Realms setting for a (humanoid) teenager
 
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