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2012-06-18 10:24:23 AM  

Sofa King Smart: Did you watch the video?
I saw the tapout kid and expected some evangelical levels of derp... but the other kid did most of the talking and was surprisingly well spoken for a 14 -15 year old teenager... but then they let him blather on and on and on... for about 9 minutes with his 'eyewitness account'... tapout kid didn't get to say 6 or 8 words.



Totally watched the video...of course tapout kid isn't going to say much. He's programmed to destroy in the octagon. When you're that much of a smashing machine, you let your fists and your foot do the talking.
 
2012-06-18 10:25:58 AM  

KimNorth: "She then ran inside her home, grabbed her pet pit bull and fell down the stairs again, injuring the dog as troopers arrived on scene, according to reports."

Why is always a winner like this who want's to own the most powerful and difficult to train properly dog you can get your hands on?


Pit Bulls are actually ridiculously easy to train. That's 1 of the main reasons they're used as dog fighters in the 1st place. They must, with every fiber in their being, please their owner.
 
2012-06-18 10:26:51 AM  
Legalize bath salts! This didn't have to happen!
 
2012-06-18 10:28:03 AM  

Happy Hours: doglover: Dr Drew was talking about it on Adam's podcast last week.

Why the fark do people listen to Dr. Drew?

All this talk about bath salts is making me think that maybe I should try some.

I ain't got shiat to do today. Okay, I'll probably avoid the bath salts and just get blind stinking drunk instead, but I really don't think I'd do anything crazy on bath salts - some people are just nuts to begin with.


i've been trying to find the salts for the longest time, no luck in my area. the way i feel today, i'd love to die via Tasering. there is nothing left and nothing to look forward to.
 
2012-06-18 10:28:44 AM  

vudukungfu: In before the "Syracuse is Upstate?" outrage.


According to my wife, born and bred in Syracuse, it is upstate.

/Wisconsinite, so don't flame me
 
2012-06-18 10:30:00 AM  

Honest Bender: mekkab: doglover: Actually bath salts are chemical that's a hallucinogen and amphetamine in the brain.

... so, like PCP, but legal?

Bath salts aren't legal.


Yes they are, you silly thing. They just are not called that. Try asking for glass cleaner. Or shoe deodorizer. Or all-purpose solution. State law varies as well.

Hey, guess what, people, just about every report on the substance has been inaccurate. One report said bath salts produce a high like LSD. Lolol wat
 
2012-06-18 10:32:10 AM  
Is this life imitating art? It's probably coincidental, but the upswing in zombie memes in the media (movies, TV, news, etc.) in the last few years is significant. Now we seem to be getting inundated with "bath salt" psychosis stories along with other farked cannibalistic behavior. I know, it's reaching. Still kinda creepy though.
 
2012-06-18 10:32:10 AM  

doglover: Hell, if we legalize EVERYTHING, no one would use PCP or meth. Too many safer highs.


LOL, right. The general populace will suddenly get smarter too. And Justin Beiber will be out of a job.
 
2012-06-18 10:32:52 AM  
Back in 1979 you could buy a nickle bag of weed and a six-pack - all for under $10. Get a good buzz, molest the cat, then wake up the next morning no worse for wear. Ah, the good ol' days.
 
2012-06-18 10:34:21 AM  

FreakinB: powhound: FreakinB: vudukungfu: In before the "Syracuse is Upstate?" outrage.

I'm an downstater who starts thinking "upstate" somewhere around the Harriman exit off the Thruway, so maybe you need to take this with a grain of salt. But if there's anyone out there who's going to argue that Syracuse isn't upstate, that's just ridiculous.

No, Syracuse is not upstate. Anything remotely close to the Finger Lakes is considered central NY. Anything west of the Catskills and east of Rochester is central. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

/I've lived in western, central and upstate NY

To me all of those parts make up a larger "upstate." Along with the Adirondacks, the Capital District, etc. Then again even the Catskills are upstate to me so...yeah. I've lived here my whole life, I can't help my perspective.


Yeah, I consider the Catskills to be upstate, as are the Adirondacks (or north country to some). All I know is this:

1. My wife's family is from NYC and I hate visiting there
2. People outside of NY need to understand that there is more to it than NYC
 
2012-06-18 10:34:44 AM  
Fake a back injury and get some percoset. Your house will be clean and you will think you are pretty.
 
2012-06-18 10:37:18 AM  

moonage daydream: I work at a head shop that sells this crap. Had an incident with a guy a few weeks back, we locked him out the shop because he was raving and screamig about a man with a gun in the parking lot. He was the only person there, and he ended up calling the cops in himself.


CSB time.

I worked at one of these places for a good 9 years or so...it's alarming when you have someone geeked out their mind coming in the store. When I started it was just pot heads and entrepreneurs buying scales and baggies with the occasional crack head asking for straight glass. As meth started to grow through the midwest, you could actually see some of these people decay over a period of time...gross. Later we were getting requests from customers and wholesalers to carry spice and K2. We wanted nothing to do with it - it brings more trouble than what it's worth. Dealing with someone who's baked and is there to buy more papers or a pinchie is no problem, people on this other synthetic garbage - yikes.

It's been about four years since I've worked there and from talking to those who still work there, people still ask for spice and K2, and there's actually a growing number of people asking for bath salts. Disturbing. I can't imagine dealing with customers that are that wacked out.
 
2012-06-18 10:37:37 AM  
wow... bath salts are right up there with heroin and cyanide... Who in their right mind, even if an ignorant dipshiat, would gamble with bath salts after hearing about just a few incidents like these?

I just hope these Darwin award contestants kill themselves with as little trauma inflicted on those around them as is possible.
 
2012-06-18 10:37:58 AM  

moonage daydream: Honest Bender: mekkab: doglover: Actually bath salts are chemical that's a hallucinogen and amphetamine in the brain.

... so, like PCP, but legal?

Bath salts aren't legal.

Yes they are, you silly thing. They just are not called that. Try asking for glass cleaner. Or shoe deodorizer. Or all-purpose solution. State law varies as well.

Hey, guess what, people, just about every report on the substance has been inaccurate. One report said bath salts produce a high like LSD. Lolol wat


Have you ever felt as if every day is like a repeat?

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it ~ George Santayana

Crackpot Ideas

"Even as news of the "epidemic" swept across America, a few of the country's most knowledgeable research scientists were beginning to doubt the phenomenon."
 
2012-06-18 10:39:14 AM  

PaisleyHunter: Fake a back injury and get some percoset. Your house will be clean and you will think you are pretty.


I have a real back injury and cannot get shiat for it. I know fakers walking around with nearly unlimited legal prescriptions. So I guess I'll do some bath salts.
 
2012-06-18 10:42:29 AM  

Andric: moonage daydream: I work at a head shop that sells this crap. Had an incident with a guy a few weeks back, we locked him out the shop because he was raving and screamig about a man with a gun in the parking lot. He was the only person there, and he ended up calling the cops in himself.

People buy the salts because they are already tweakers and bath salts are cheaper and easier to obtain than meth. Or they are on probation for meth/coke and stick to the legal.

Having tried them before, it is a painful burn followed by a sickening burst of jittery energy. Definitely not my cup of tea.

Pretty cute seeing a bunch of straight edge Farkers talk about drugs.

We can only fantasize about having as much junkie cred as you.


Sorry, it really is funny to see people parroting inaccurate news reports and drug descriptions as thouh they have any idea of what they are talking about. Ie, workig in a head shop and trying a drug once = JUNKIE

1) Bath salts have been out for at least two years. During these two years, legislation changes to ban chemicals, but analogues are constantly made to keep wihin legal boundaries.

2) Working where I work, keeps me from wanting to do anything harder than pot. Totally awesome seekg people go from looking normal and paying with cash to sickly, sniffling, bug-eyed shells that pay in change, and "$2 on this card, and uh, the rest on this... no... only five on this.."

3) I seriously can not wait for them to ban this shiat. Tweakers will have to get back on meth or Adderall and at least can get jail time for their stupidity.
 
2012-06-18 10:43:40 AM  

KimNorth: "She then ran inside her home, grabbed her pet pit bull and fell down the stairs again, injuring the dog as troopers arrived on scene, according to reports."

Why is always a winner like this who want's to own the most powerful and difficult to train properly dog you can get your hands on?


Pit bulls are hard to train? No, you must be thinking of a Jack Russell. Pits are really great dogs.
 
2012-06-18 10:44:04 AM  

doglover: AbbeySomeone: Whoever is in charge of drug busts needs to raid every ghetto mart in the nation that carries this sh*t, immediately. Leave the pot smokers alone and concentrate on this and the meth people.

Abbey, it's legal. 100 percent.

First lawmakers need to get up ons. But the problem isn't the chemical. It's the "war on drugs" we're waging. If shrooms, acid, and pot were legal no one would be going to head shops to find synthetic chemicals that haven't been illegalized yet. Hell, if we legalize EVERYTHING, no one would use PCP or meth. Too many safer highs.


Why do you people keep trying to make this argument?

Alcohol is a legal high, but it isn't the one you want.

If weed was a legal high, it might not be the one someone else wants.

You can make everything except meth legal and people will still go to meth because a) it's the high they want. And b) if it's illegal it must be awesome! If this wasn't the case, there wouldn't be a new drug craze every 3yrs.

Don't get me wrong, I've smoked pot. It wasn't my thing. I'll take a jack and coke. I think as far as drugs go pot is about as harmless as they come, but I don't buy the argument.
 
2012-06-18 10:46:18 AM  

powhound:

1. My wife's family is from NYC and I hate visiting there
2. People outside of NY need to understand that there is more to it than NYC


I was in Rochester for several months due to work, and from the people I met there, your sentiments do hit the spot.

/most have never even visited NYC and resent having to pay the high taxes to support it
//a lot of NASCAR fans, too
 
2012-06-18 10:46:57 AM  
I'm actually starting to wonder about the people that purchased these and took a bath with them.

Are they at least decent bath salts?
 
2012-06-18 10:48:41 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: PaisleyHunter: Fake a back injury and get some percoset. Your house will be clean and you will think you are pretty.

I have a real back injury and cannot get shiat for it. I know fakers walking around with nearly unlimited legal prescriptions. So I guess I'll do some bath salts.


Have you tried crying? When I cry, my dr just gives me what I want so Ill leave. Honestly, I feel bad for you. SWITCH DOCTORS! Or have I become to good at this game?
 
2012-06-18 10:48:43 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Upside: bath salts make me rock hard and ready to fark for hours. Down side: I was hallucinating so bad I had sex with a toaster.


2.bp.blogspot.com

29.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-06-18 10:50:49 AM  
Tasers are safe!!!
 
2012-06-18 10:51:36 AM  
Bath Salts - the 10's answer to the 70's Angel Dust.
 
2012-06-18 10:54:52 AM  

King Something: FreakinB: vudukungfu: In before the "Syracuse is Upstate?" outrage.

I'm an downstater who starts thinking "upstate" somewhere around the Harriman exit off the Thruway, so maybe you need to take this with a grain of salt. But if there's anyone out there who's going to argue that Syracuse isn't upstate, that's just ridiculous.

You're an upstater. Upstate begins where the Bronx ends.


I am getting a kick out of watching these small staters argue about where upstate and downstate is... Here in Texas we have regions... Like west, north, east, south, central and south-central. and we don't get our panties in a bunch about where one ends and the other begins.
 
2012-06-18 10:55:48 AM  

Mugato: Is this really some epidemic or is the media pushing this? Cause I never heard of the stuff before the face eating incident. Granted I let my subscription to "Illicit Drugs Digest" run out so I'm not very informed.


I think both. People hear the stories surrounding this drug on the news and think, "It can't be that bad if it's really legal." Go to their local shop that carries it, try it and then do the things like in the story. Then their story becomes part of the news where someone else hears that story and thinks, "It can't be that bad if it's really legal," rinse and repeat.

It's really the craziness that the drug is causing. Stories of superhuman strength, cannibalism, taking bullets and still walking and such sound like they are straight out of fantasy novel.

To me, bath salts sound like demon possession in drug form. Like you would shoot the person who is psychotically high on them and then douse them with a good splash of holy water afterward just to be safe.
 
2012-06-18 10:56:40 AM  

Keigh: is there a notthisshiatagain.gif?

cuz that's about all i've got to say.

also Its' pretty clear to me that bath salts have changed formula since they came out 2 years ago. then, they made you tweaky. now, they make you eat-fleshy. hmmm yeah something has defintely changed.


This. Bath salts is the new pink slime.
 
2012-06-18 10:58:48 AM  

Mugato: Is this really some epidemic or is the media pushing this? Cause I never heard of the stuff before the face eating incident. Granted I let my subscription to "Illicit Drugs Digest" run out so I'm not very informed.


It's been around for quite a while, actually, around the same time as "Spice" made it's appearance. Both are really, REALLY bad.

/paramedic
//seen too many of these the last couple years
 
2012-06-18 11:01:18 AM  
apparently teh bath salts give you teh munchies
 
2012-06-18 11:01:29 AM  

Nuclear Pancake: Honest Bender: mekkab: doglover: Actually bath salts are chemical that's a hallucinogen and amphetamine in the brain.

... so, like PCP, but legal?

Bath salts aren't legal.

Really genius then why the hell can I buy them down the street IN A STORE?


On Oct 21, 2011, the DEA emergency scheduled MDPV, 4-Methylmethcathinone, and Methylone. At the end of 12 months, the DEA will very likely permanently add them to Schedule I. See Federal Register Volume 76, Number 204 and DEA Background Data and Analysis for Emergency Scheduling of MDPV, 4-MethylMethcathinone, and Methylone.

MDPV is currently in Schedule I in the United States. This means it is illegal to manufacture, buy, possess, or distribute (sell, trade or give) without a DEA license.
 
2012-06-18 11:02:09 AM  
It's funny how all of these stories (including that of the face eater) only ALLEGE that bath salts were being used. No toxicology studies had been done at the time the face eater story came out - it was just some cop speculating that bath salts may have been used. Same here, it's all conjecture. May have been bath salts, could have been something different.

This is how "drug hysteria" gets started.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never touch bath salts myself (as one with a heart condition, a heavy stimulant is probably the last thing I'd take, either that or jimsonweed), but getting the public worked up into a frenzy over something that hasn't definitively been proven to cause the supposed effects is counterproductive and destructive.

If bath salts ARE as bad as alleged, we have only the drug war to blame. If simpler, less harmful (relatively) substances were legal, we wouldn't have these weird designer drugs whose potency and effects are largely unknown. Not saying we should start selling prefilled heroin syringes at corner liquor stores, but reason should prevail over hysteria.
 
2012-06-18 11:03:04 AM  

Maul555: wow... bath salts are right up there with heroin and cyanide... Who in their right mind, even if an ignorant dipshiat, would gamble with bath salts after hearing about just a few incidents like these?


She just couldn't hold her bath salts. Now me, on the other hand...
 
2012-06-18 11:04:07 AM  

doglover:
First lawmakers need to get up ons. But the problem isn't the chemical. It's the "war on drugs" we're waging. If shrooms, acid, and pot were legal no one would be going to head shops to find synthetic chemicals that haven't been illegalized yet. Hell, if we legalize EVERYTHING, no one would use PCP or meth. Too many safer highs.


Now this makes entirely too much sense to ever work. What we need to do instead is increase the jail terms for first time offenders. Especially those carrying an amount less than what would be considered sales. Oooh, and if they're non-violent too, they should definitely get prison time.
 
2012-06-18 11:06:42 AM  

LL316: KimNorth: "She then ran inside her home, grabbed her pet pit bull and fell down the stairs again, injuring the dog as troopers arrived on scene, according to reports."

Why is always a winner like this who want's to own the most powerful and difficult to train properly dog you can get your hands on?

Pit Bulls are actually ridiculously easy to train. That's 1 of the main reasons they're used as dog fighters in the 1st place. They must, with every fiber in their being, please their owner.


I don't want to get in a tit 4 tat but they are used not because they are easy to train they are used because of their power and the trait they have of not stopping/going for the kill.
This is why they never bite and back off and once started in an assault on an animal or human their owners are not able to get them to stop and have to resort to beating the animal with that often not working.
 
2012-06-18 11:06:44 AM  

King Something: You're an upstater. Upstate begins where the Bronx ends.


Anything north of Yonkers.
White Plains if you really want to push it.
 
2012-06-18 11:10:16 AM  

Ass Exploder: I think I might like to try me some of those them bath salts.


sorry, pet peeve
 
2012-06-18 11:13:38 AM  

stewbert: KimNorth: "She then ran inside her home, grabbed her pet pit bull and fell down the stairs again, injuring the dog as troopers arrived on scene, according to reports."

Why is always a winner like this who want's to own the most powerful and difficult to train properly dog you can get your hands on?

Pit bulls are hard to train? No, you must be thinking of a Jack Russell. Pits are really great dogs.


Hey! I have a Jack Russell best dog ever! Will go and get my slippers and lives to please.

I had a pit who was good to the family but would kill anyone or thing that came near and nothing worked to change this. Luck of the draw I just would rather deal with a kitten than a bobcat I guess.
 
2012-06-18 11:16:27 AM  
And here I am smoking a natural plant and surfing the internet for hours before I go in to work, without eating anyone's face. Like a sucker.
 
2012-06-18 11:17:00 AM  

Honest Bender: Nuclear Pancake: Honest Bender: mekkab: doglover: Actually bath salts are chemical that's a hallucinogen and amphetamine in the brain.

... so, like PCP, but legal?

Bath salts aren't legal.

Really genius then why the hell can I buy them down the street IN A STORE?

On Oct 21, 2011, the DEA emergency scheduled MDPV, 4-Methylmethcathinone, and Methylone. At the end of 12 months, the DEA will very likely permanently add them to Schedule I. See Federal Register Volume 76, Number 204 and DEA Background Data and Analysis for Emergency Scheduling of MDPV, 4-MethylMethcathinone, and Methylone.

MDPV is currently in Schedule I in the United States. This means it is illegal to manufacture, buy, possess, or distribute (sell, trade or give) without a DEA license.


The thing is that all the bath salt makers have to do is tweak the formula so it is no longer the banned formula. Then it's back on the shelf with a snazzy "new and improved formula!" sticker on it.
 
2012-06-18 11:21:43 AM  

doglover: AbbeySomeone: Whoever is in charge of drug busts needs to raid every ghetto mart in the nation that carries this sh*t, immediately. Leave the pot smokers alone and concentrate on this and the meth people.

Abbey, it's legal. 100 percent.

First lawmakers need to get up ons. But the problem isn't the chemical. It's the "war on drugs" we're waging. If shrooms, acid, and pot were legal no one would be going to head shops to find synthetic chemicals that haven't been illegalized yet. Hell, if we legalize EVERYTHING, no one would use PCP or meth. Too many safer highs.


On paper that sounds like a great argument. But let's face it, people who really want to get high are not going to be the world's best decision-makers. Even if pot was legal, a lot of people would seek out other highs and end up doing the bad shiat.
 
2012-06-18 11:23:43 AM  

Ass Exploder: I think I might like to try me some of those bath salts.


Please be kidding. I know in the past things have been blown out of proportion, what with "Reefer Madness" and all the DARE-like programs that inflate the risk beyond believability. I myself have never smoked anything, tobacco or pot, but think it should be legal.

But as a paramedic who has seen his share of shiat, please don't do bath salts. Might as well just go snort battery acid for how good it is for you, and from what I've heard and witnessed it doesn't appear to be a pleasant high at all.
 
2012-06-18 11:24:18 AM  

KimNorth: stewbert: KimNorth: "She then ran inside her home, grabbed her pet pit bull and fell down the stairs again, injuring the dog as troopers arrived on scene, according to reports."

Why is always a winner like this who want's to own the most powerful and difficult to train properly dog you can get your hands on?

Pit bulls are hard to train? No, you must be thinking of a Jack Russell. Pits are really great dogs.

Hey! I have a Jack Russell best dog ever! Will go and get my slippers and lives to please.

I had a pit who was good to the family but would kill anyone or thing that came near and nothing worked to change this. Luck of the draw I just would rather deal with a kitten than a bobcat I guess.


They have to be socialized early, which is true of any large, powerful breed that is protective of its pack. Pits, rotties, german shepherds, some mastiffs, hounds, etc. You also have to actively discourage the guarding behavior in family pets. It's just a matter of training.
 
2012-06-18 11:25:06 AM  
 
2012-06-18 11:25:28 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Eaty flesh insanity is the new, upgraded version.


Don't really know how the new stuff differs from a year or two ago, but keep in mind that their popularity has increased. That means a bigger group of people using them, which means a higher probability of people wigging out.
 
2012-06-18 11:25:32 AM  
it's monday and I may be crazy and my google fu is off but i recall a quote from a movie that went something like this. Kid is asked into school admin office and the principal says something to the tune of:

"Is it drugs son? I took acid once. It was at Led Zepplin concert and the music was f-flo- flowing at me and it was red and electric and then I got scared and hid in the corner for two hours cuz I thought I was a toaster"

If anyone knows that movie I would appreciate it.
 
2012-06-18 11:34:39 AM  

PaisleyHunter: Fake a back injury and get some percoset. Your house will be clean and you will think you are pretty.



Hm. As someone who had surgery a little over 2 weeks back and got 2 scripts for Oxycodone (generic for Percocet), I have to now wonder at those who are even able to get high on that crap. My sis-in-law pops pills like a maniac and would likely chew her own arm off to get her hands on the two bottles whose contents I found to be entirely underwhelming. Took two 10mg Oxy's for pain the day after surgery they did nearly nothing for me. Ended up taking a grand total of 5 of them...the last 3 each night before bed so I could roll over onto one side and not wake myself up if I rolled onto a staple. After that, it was such a waste of time I just quit taking them.

Mind you, I have a ridiculously high pain tolerance and need extra high doses of anesthetics for things like routine dental work and such...but I was rather amazed that people could actually get high off this stuff. I downed the pair of Oxy and my wife looked at me like I'd lost my mind. Three hours later she's asking me "how do you feel" expecting me to be all groggy or whatnot. I'm like "pissed...these effing pills are total bullshiat".

So, clean house and pretty...not for me anyway.
 
2012-06-18 11:35:35 AM  
I know some crazy renecks that will try just about anything, and when asked about bath salts they all reply 'Oh fark no.'
 
2012-06-18 11:39:06 AM  

Ahkam: [media.syracuse.com image 296x423]

The decedent.

/whoa


Do not want to see that naked.
 
2012-06-18 11:39:54 AM  

Ashtrey: I know some crazy renecks that will try just about anything, and when asked about bath salts they all reply 'Oh fark no.'


*Rednecks, and yes I learned to spell in the same school system they did.
 
2012-06-18 11:41:07 AM  

WhiskeySticks: moonage daydream: I work at a head shop that sells this crap. Had an incident with a guy a few weeks back, we locked him out the shop because he was raving and screamig about a man with a gun in the parking lot. He was the only person there, and he ended up calling the cops in himself.

CSB time.

I worked at one of these places for a good 9 years or so...it's alarming when you have someone geeked out their mind coming in the store. When I started it was just pot heads and entrepreneurs buying scales and baggies with the occasional crack head asking for straight glass. As meth started to grow through the midwest, you could actually see some of these people decay over a period of time...gross. Later we were getting requests from customers and wholesalers to carry spice and K2. We wanted nothing to do with it - it brings more trouble than what it's worth. Dealing with someone who's baked and is there to buy more papers or a pinchie is no problem, people on this other synthetic garbage - yikes.

It's been about four years since I've worked there and from talking to those who still work there, people still ask for spice and K2, and there's actually a growing number of people asking for bath salts. Disturbing. I can't imagine dealing with customers that are that wacked out.


I stop in a local shop now and then, they've got some neat stuff in there...and root beer incense. More than once I've seen a guy mosey in, half baked, and try to barter with the workers. One guy tried to trade an open soda and a half eaten candy bar. I'm not sure what he thought he would get for it, but it was pretty funny watching the girl behind the counter try to turn him down. She eventually told him she would call the cops if he didn't leave and had to call up the manager.
 
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