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(Huffington Post)   The record set by Michael Jackson with Thriller may get broken by someone named David Guetta   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 21
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2012-06-18 03:43:49 AM
2 votes:
Once the internet started providing legit ways to d/load music, all previous chart record history should have been frozen, then new charts installed in their place.

Being able to just click, pay and download in no way compares to how we previously purchased music. These sales contribute to chart sales, along with walking into a store.

Half the prestige of high sales is knowing just how many people put time aside to buy "Thriller" vs how many were actually produced.

I find the article hard to believe anyway. When MJ died his sales went through the roof, again. Yeah, heaps of downloads, but if we're counting everything now....

New rules.

/Long-time industry employee.
2012-06-17 11:55:48 PM
2 votes:
Wow, that POS song is going to dethrone Thriller?

Sad.
2012-06-17 11:31:13 PM
2 votes:
That slideshow must be huge. Wouldn't load in seconds. Don't care enough to check it.

Pop music records are all bullshiat. With inflation and population increases, it's a lot easier to sell more records than Sinatra or to make more dollars than him. That doesn't mean you're a Sinatra, or even worthy to use the same toilets he did in the day. It just means there's more people and more dollars out there.
2012-06-18 01:22:20 PM
1 votes:
I actually listen to house/club/techno/trance/whatever music. I realize I'm going to date myself, but I used to have to go to the "foreign" tape and CD section of stores to find good "underground" club music (well, underground by US standards).

It is very weird for me to hear very similar beats on the pop billboards. But I guess I somehow knew that was going to happen at some point once I heard "Zombie Nation" at a basketball game, lol.

My husband isn't much of a dance music person, but even he can understand the appeal of David Guetta's music. I don't think David Guetta is a particularly amazing DJ, but he can produce pretty good hooks.
2012-06-18 12:11:33 PM
1 votes:
If you think we don't like that just because we are old farkers, there is no help for you.
2012-06-18 10:32:02 AM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: Probably because a cover band is perceived as actually using musical talent,
whereas sampling at its worst (P-Diddy's "Missing You" comes immediately to
mind) it is basically using the original track and replacing the lyrics.

In the hands of someone with actual musical talent, sampling becomes just
another instrument (Terminator X from PUBLIC ENEMY was/is a master at
this), but far too often it is a crutch by people's whose only talent is to know
what beats/licks/riffs to steal for their stuff.


It's reckoned that It Takes A Nation Of Millions couldn't be made today.

Back in the 80s, artists like Public Enemy approached record companies about getting samples cleared and the record companies were like "yeah, whatever" and let them sample stuff for pretty much nothing. So the likes of PE, make these records and make a load of money, and the record companies are like "fark, we should have charged more"

So, next time people start asking for clearance to use a song, the record companies up the price. That's why rap artists use one song now. They can't afford the 6 samples that say, Bring the Noise used.
2012-06-18 10:18:34 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Huh, I just heard Titanium on the radio the other day. Pretty good for a house song.


Which really is a pretty low bar now. Honestly, I don't know what people get from this stuff. There's just nothing there. Just a load of beats and some woman with a helium-infused voice singing something pointless. It doesn't grab you like I Feel For You, Groove Is In the Heart, Le Freak or something by Daft Punk or the Chemical Brothers. Actually, I get that people might dance to it, but who the fark wants to buy it to actually listen to?
2012-06-18 10:10:48 AM
1 votes:

for good or for awesome: DjangoStonereaver: Probably because a cover band is perceived as actually using musical talent,
whereas sampling at its worst (P-Diddy's "Missing You" comes immediately to
mind) it is basically using the original track and replacing the lyrics.

I could not believe how blatant a rip off that song was.


I heard Sting was extremely outraged by this blatant thievery
2012-06-18 09:36:53 AM
1 votes:
"With tracks featuring Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Usher, Fergie, LMFAO and more"

Not enough DO NOT WANT in the universe.
2012-06-18 08:59:34 AM
1 votes:

kroonermanblack: Something that has confused me since this guy 'arrived', is why does he get credit on air with (or instead of) the singer or vocalist? No other mixer or whatever he is gets air credit for songs, just the band/vocalist(s).


This is actually the common thing now. These guys are more like producers and there are quite a few of them. Tiesto and avicii come to mind (Tiesto Escape me is a pretty good song and a lot of my generation can't get enough of avicii's levels). It all seems to be based on the popularity of the artists involved. If it's skrillex and Korn, it is going to be Korn feat Skrillex. If it's Guetta and Sia it's going to be Guetta feat Sia, even though Sia's voice is more talented than Guetta IMO.
2012-06-18 08:55:12 AM
1 votes:

Skarekrough: You gotta raise the kids right. Sometimes it means just having the iPod going all day with Bird or BB or Leonard Cohen or Monk. These kids learn the stuff at home.


Take it from me, my dad was a jazz musician who pushed jazz on me when I was a kid. There's no easier way to make a kid hate a form of music more than to push it on him as a parent. Let the kid listen to what he wants.
2012-06-18 08:50:29 AM
1 votes:
Something that has confused me since this guy 'arrived', is why does he get credit on air with (or instead of) the singer or vocalist? No other mixer or whatever he is gets air credit for songs, just the band/vocalist(s).
2012-06-18 08:00:06 AM
1 votes:

SavvyLemur: people actually listen to what basically equates to the ramen noodles of music.


You get sick of Filet mignon every single night. Sometimes you just want a Big Mac.
2012-06-18 07:58:15 AM
1 votes:
i've come to realize that top 40 music pisses me off not so much because of the quality of the genre, but the fact that people actually listen to what basically equates to the ramen noodles of music.
2012-06-18 07:07:27 AM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: doglover: Pop music records are all bullshiat.

And yet Michael Jackson's record for Thriller has lasted almost 30 years. Also this is the record for longest charting dance song, which is actually kind of impressive given how quickly dance music goes in and out of favor.


That may have more to do with the constant change of formats people listened to music on.

When Thriller came out, people bought the record to listen to at home. Then, many of them bought the tape to hear in their car. And then, when CDs became dominant, they bought it again.

That's why most of the top 20 all time sellers came out in the 80s or earlier. Lots of people bought the same album up to 3 times.
2012-06-18 04:30:06 AM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: I know the song, and I think the video is a rather nice 80s throw back.


That's just it. It's a nice video. It's no Thriller.

It's just we've finally got enough people that a minority of them is more than a majority 30 years ago.
2012-06-18 02:35:21 AM
1 votes:

dogDNRTFAlover: That slideshow must be huge. Wouldn't load in seconds. Don't care enough to check it.

Pop music records are all bullshiat. With inflation and population increases, it's a lot easier to sell more records than Sinatra or to make more dollars than him. That doesn't mean you're a Sinatra, or even worthy to use the same toilets he did in the day. It just means there's more people and more dollars out there.


"The Hot Dance Club Songs chart[1] (also known as Club Play Singles, and formerly known as Hot Dance Club Play and Hot Dance/Disco) is a weekly national survey of the songs that are most popular in U.S. dance clubs. It is compiled by Billboard exclusively from playlists submitted by nightclub disc jockeys who must apply and meet certain criteria to become "Billboard-reporting DJs."
2012-06-18 02:02:05 AM
1 votes:
Oh, Elvis left these pretenders to the throne in the dust a long time ago. Who's kidding who? He's been dead for 35 years and his estate is still still makng money.
2012-06-18 02:00:19 AM
1 votes:
I mean really. Everybody knows who MJ is. I doubt anyone outside the scene even knows who this guy is. That sort of fame and recognition counts for a lot.
2012-06-18 01:10:42 AM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: And yet Michael Jackson's record for Thriller has lasted almost 30 years.


Which means that if it's not broken BIG TIME, and I mean doubled or more, it's not really broken yet, now is it?

Did you click my link? Have you heard Titanium? Have you seen the video? It's shiat that won't even be played on a Clear Channel station by next year. Thriller will still have that bass line.
2012-06-17 11:05:04 PM
1 votes:
It's a pretty good song. I've really gotten into the house/pop whatever the f*ck it is. BPM is a great station to drive to.
 
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