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(Slate)   The demise to one of the most hilarious TV stalwarts, the "doltish dad." Thank God we still have Modern Family's Phil Dunphy   (slate.com) divider line 82
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2012-06-18 10:57:20 AM

towatchoverme: Side note:

I tried to get my ultimate team to do a "Whoa Bundy" before a game the other week, and everyone under the age of 30 gave me that blank look that you see in horses, staring over a fence.

Gave me a sad.


As someone who is under 30, I'll give you a Whoa Bundy any day of the week, but the Bundy curse might kill me before then
 
2012-06-18 11:06:27 AM
came for a sofia vergara picture thread, leaving disappointed.
 
2012-06-18 11:09:32 AM
So, *one* movie where the Dad isn't an idiot. Truly a trend.
 
2012-06-18 11:22:48 AM
I'm almost a little sad that this was primed to be a "doltish dad" hate thread and became a hipster and mass appeal sitcom hate thread.

Paul Reiser, you live to see another day. But I'm (not) watching you, asshole.
 
2012-06-18 11:28:20 AM
I own and watch TV like the luddite I am, though mostly on DVR so that I can skip commercials. I really despise them, but when watching live television I watch them like everyone does and man it is that much worse.

Anyhow, I feel that commercials have the longest way to go with putting down men. The only way a man in a commercial will come away looking good is if he's the one embarrassing other men. If it is just a man with his family, sorry buddy someone has to take a beating to sell things.

The irony is that this is a long-term trend in reaction to the powerful and consistent condescension shown towards women in advertising over the years. Madison Avenue thinks that if they're mean enough to other people, housewives will forgive them. But why must someone be the heel? Putting men down doesn't elevate women. I cook, I change diapers, I feed children, I do laundry... no exploding appliances or pink laundry to be seen.
 
2012-06-18 11:31:44 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: I was okay with it until Ward Cleaver got knocked. WTF? Ward is the shiat! Sometimes he's a little hard on the Beaver but hell what man wouldn't be with a hottie like June who knows her place?


www.jimpoz.com
 
2012-06-18 11:49:03 AM

Coffee Snob: Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, Big Bang Theory, all terrible. Sitcoms are lowest common denominator. And yes, I do watch a good amount of TV, but I tend to lean towards Community and Parks and Rec. Also, Too Cute on Animal Planet.


As a comic book geek, I'm so disappointed at how bad The Big Bang Theory is. I've tried to give it 2 separate chances, and all I can do is cringe in embarrassment.
 
2012-06-18 12:35:15 PM

factoryconnection: I cook, I change diapers, I feed children, I do laundry... no exploding appliances or pink laundry to be seen.


Nothing will change until you start shopping.
 
2012-06-18 12:39:19 PM

SkylineRecords: As a comic book geek, I'm so disappointed at how bad The Big Bang Theory is. I've tried to give it 2 separate chances, and all I can do is cringe in embarrassment.


The best description of that show I've heard is: It's how really dumb people think really smart people act.
 
2012-06-18 12:50:44 PM

chimp_ninja: SkylineRecords: As a comic book geek, I'm so disappointed at how bad The Big Bang Theory is. I've tried to give it 2 separate chances, and all I can do is cringe in embarrassment.

The best description of that show I've heard is: It's how really dumb people think really smart people act.


I think of it along the lines of that show that Ricky Gervais 'starred in' throughout Extras. LCD appealing, stupid catch phrasing and all.
 
2012-06-18 12:50:45 PM

verbaltoxin: I'm still grinning over the fact that somebody actually thought Modern Family is marketed as "edgy." That couldn't be farther from the truth. It's probably the most plain oatmeal sitcom since Leave It to Beaver.


I don't know. Modern Family is actually funny.

PaisleyHunter: I like Modern Family, but I do not like Sophia Vegara. Her face is always scrunched up.


Wow. Speaking as a woman who's not typically into the whole living Goddess/trophy on a pedestal archetype, I have to say: Are you gay?
 
2012-06-18 12:52:10 PM

bhcompy: towatchoverme: Side note:

I tried to get my ultimate team to do a "Whoa Bundy" before a game the other week, and everyone under the age of 30 gave me that blank look that you see in horses, staring over a fence.

Gave me a sad.

As someone who is under 30, I'll give you a Whoa Bundy any day of the week, but the Bundy curse might kill me before then


But if we murder you in a small village in England, the curse will be lifted!
 
2012-06-18 12:56:37 PM

KatjaMouse: verbaltoxin: I'm still grinning over the fact that somebody actually thought Modern Family is marketed as "edgy." That couldn't be farther from the truth. It's probably the most plain oatmeal sitcom since Leave It to Beaver.

I don't know. Modern Family is actually funny.

PaisleyHunter: I like Modern Family, but I do not like Sophia Vegara. Her face is always scrunched up.

Wow. Speaking as a woman who's not typically into the whole living Goddess/trophy on a pedestal archetype, I have to say: Are you gay?


MF isn't trying to be edgy - it's got both broad and subtle humor that hits the mark most of the time. It's not the best comedy of all time, but it's a solid show overall.

As for Mrs. Vegara - I'm a gay dude, and if you don't think she is hot, then you're gayer than I am.
 
2012-06-18 01:08:45 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: KatjaMouse: verbaltoxin: I'm still grinning over the fact that somebody actually thought Modern Family is marketed as "edgy." That couldn't be farther from the truth. It's probably the most plain oatmeal sitcom since Leave It to Beaver.

I don't know. Modern Family is actually funny.

PaisleyHunter: I like Modern Family, but I do not like Sophia Vegara. Her face is always scrunched up.

Wow. Speaking as a woman who's not typically into the whole living Goddess/trophy on a pedestal archetype, I have to say: Are you gay?

MF isn't trying to be edgy - it's got both broad and subtle humor that hits the mark most of the time. It's not the best comedy of all time, but it's a solid show overall.

As for Mrs. Vegara - I'm a gay dude, and if you don't think she is hot, then you're gayer than I am.


I like the cut of your Jib, be it Gay or not, good Sir
 
2012-06-18 01:48:39 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Nothing will change until you start shopping.


To be fair, we don't buy a whole lot of stuff that is advertised on TV. We keep our cleaning products fairly basic, we don't eat much processed food, make our own baby food, we switched to cloth diapers, and hell even our vacuum cleaner was factory reconditioned.

/I have a connection there.
 
2012-06-18 02:09:51 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Paul Reiser, you live to see another day. But I'm (not) watching you, asshole.


i23.photobucket.com


Tax Boy: came for a sofia vergara picture thread, leaving disappointed.


i23.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-18 02:19:57 PM

KatjaMouse: verbaltoxin: I'm still grinning over the fact that somebody actually thought Modern Family is marketed as "edgy." That couldn't be farther from the truth. It's probably the most plain oatmeal sitcom since Leave It to Beaver.

I don't know. Modern Family is actually funny.

PaisleyHunter: I like Modern Family, but I do not like Sophia Vegara. Her face is always scrunched up.

Wow. Speaking as a woman who's not typically into the whole living Goddess/trophy on a pedestal archetype, I have to say: Are you gay?


Im a straight female and i like looking at pretty women, but sofia does not do it for me. Im more of a christina hendricks type of girl. Her face is beautiful and not scrunchy.
 
2012-06-18 03:12:08 PM

verbaltoxin: FriarReb98: I prefer Mike Heck to Phil Dunphy any day of the week, but that's more because I think Neil Flynn is great.

I don't watch The Middle often, but Mike Heck is how I picture myself when I am a father: constantly confused about what's happening in my house, and just wanting peace and quiet.


Neil Flynn is great but the actress that plays the irrepressible dork daughter Sue completely owns that show. The rest of the actors are just in supporting roles.
 
2012-06-18 03:12:12 PM

verbaltoxin: FriarReb98: I prefer Mike Heck to Phil Dunphy any day of the week, but that's more because I think Neil Flynn is great.

I don't watch The Middle often, but Mike Heck is how I picture myself when I am a father: constantly confused about what's happening in my house, and just wanting peace and quiet.


The Middle is great. I fell in love with that family the first time I saw the show. It's the only family-centric sitcom I watch. That's not a judgement, I'm just not interested in them but this show has something about it.
 
2012-06-18 03:20:37 PM
It is good to see some fathers in a more positive competent light. But movies and shows are usually just trying to be funny...and making fun of white men is super safe...like Loius CK says...so they go after us. No big deal.

And I like Modern Family, but I have unbelievably sh*tty taste in television shows so just feel a tad superior.
 
2012-06-18 07:59:30 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: MF isn't trying to be edgy - it's got both broad and subtle humor that hits the mark most of the time. It's not the best comedy of all time, but it's a solid show overall.


pretty much my thoughts as well. The only thing I dislike is when an episode is centered around the kids (excluding Sarah Hyland. The rest can't act for shiat.).
 
2012-06-18 08:03:39 PM
"No kids 'Blind Side' was the black running back"
"Offensive Line."
"The African-American running back."
 
2012-06-18 08:33:51 PM

FeedTheCollapse: The only thing I dislike is when an episode is centered around the kids (excluding Sarah Hyland. The rest can't act for shiat.).


Used to couldn't stand the boys but they grew on me this season. The rest of the cast is great. Only other network sitcoms I'll watch are Community, 30 Rock and New Girl(but that's just to see my girlfriend.)
 
2012-06-18 08:47:49 PM

steve_wmn: verbaltoxin: FriarReb98: I prefer Mike Heck to Phil Dunphy any day of the week, but that's more because I think Neil Flynn is great.

I don't watch The Middle often, but Mike Heck is how I picture myself when I am a father: constantly confused about what's happening in my house, and just wanting peace and quiet.

Neil Flynn is great but the actress that plays the irrepressible dork daughter Sue completely owns that show. The rest of the actors are just in supporting roles.


(whisper) Supporting roles. (/whisper)
 
2012-06-18 08:56:05 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: FeedTheCollapse: The only thing I dislike is when an episode is centered around the kids (excluding Sarah Hyland. The rest can't act for shiat.).

Used to couldn't stand the boys but they grew on me this season. The rest of the cast is great. Only other network sitcoms I'll watch are Community, 30 Rock and New Girl(but that's just to see my girlfriend.)


now that I think of it, it's mostly the characters than the actors playing the kids:

Luke is a bit hit or miss. He can be funny, but it kind of feels like they don't know what to do with him.

I never really liked Manny; he's a bit too contrived.

Alex is too smarmy to really like. I think they're going for "Smart person surrounded by dumb people" Lisa Simpson, but it kind of feels like Generic Grammar Nazi smarminess.

Lily isn't really present enough for me to really care about, though I'm not keen on the new adoption idea as it feels like New Baby Syndrome for TV shows. It also feels like an almost forgotten subplot, so it's just kind of weird when they mention their plans to adopt.
 
2012-06-18 09:19:41 PM
I dig Modern Family, and The Middle. I don't watch a lot of family sitcoms, but I like it when the family actually seems to give a damn about each other, and the characters are likable at best, tolerable at worst. It's the reason I got turned off by Everybody Loves Raymond. It had it's funny moments, but I could never understand how that family could stand to be around each other so much, because they were all pretty terrible people, especially to each other.
 
2012-06-18 10:57:17 PM

pjlawrence81: It's the reason I got turned off by Everybody Loves Raymond. It had it's funny moments, but I could never understand how that family could stand to be around each other so much, because they were all pretty terrible people, especially to each other.


You obviously aren't Italian. Raymond's family dynamics could easily be a doppleganger for my own.
 
2012-06-19 07:53:44 AM

towatchoverme: As a dad who got up at 5 am to have a run, came back and walked the dog, fed the fish, made lunch for the kid (including a muffin I baked yesterday), made breakfast, got the kid to the bus, brought the SO tea in bed and then hauled my ass out the door for my AM commute to the office, I'm not only getting a kick out of these replies, and this article, I'm also getting a strong urge to punch Sarah Jessica "I don't know how she does it" Parker right in the flank.

/Not actually mad
//It's called being an adult, a surprising # of people have mastered it
///Except Hollywood, which thrives on stale tropes


You fed the fish?!? However did you manage? Did it take you three seconds or ten because you stopped to say good morning to the guppies?

/jk, just thought it was funny that you included that as part of your busy morning.
//also, to all, modern family is extremely funny and enjoyable
 
2012-06-19 10:08:54 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: You fed the fish?!? However did you manage? Did it take you three seconds or ten because you stopped to say good morning to the guppies?


I've got it down to a routine now :)

img.metro.co.uk

(yeah ... probably should have mentioned i have several aquariums ... )
 
2012-06-19 12:26:55 PM

Mugato:
Do I have to report to some indoctrination center if I watched 3 episodes of the first season and hated it?


At least you watched more than one episode.

Your average FARKer will watch one episode, or typically a few minutes of one and then declare that "it sucks".
A lot of FARKers don't even bother to watch at all and will say something sucks based on the opinion written of the above FARKer-type.

/enjoys Modern Family but agrees the third season was a bit weak
//WTF is a "scrunchy face"?
 
2012-06-19 02:09:13 PM
Not sure what is with the Modern Family hate from people like December and
Lipspinach.
I agree with peterhx-the first few seasons were better than the current one, but so what? Ed O'Neil and Ty Burrell are worth the price of admission.
 
2012-06-19 07:08:25 PM

peterthx: //WTF is a "scrunchy face"?


I don't watch the show but I'll be damned if I will allow Sofia Vergara's name to be besmirched. I watched her on the spanish channel before you all saw her. Is that a hipster thing to say? Anyway she spoke spanish so she didn't have an annoying accent. Well she had an accent but it was appropriate.
 
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