Max Awesome: Only the British could think cold mushed-up fish is the best thing ever.

Just eat a piece of grilled salmon.

What about the Japanese?

You have a lot of aggression towards the British there. You come across like an insecure little bully.
I often wonder why Americans are so aggressive towards the British. Why is that? Especially when the topic is food, "Only the British..." you sound like an old man recounting the time he caught his wife in bed with another man, why such bitterness?
Just so you know this aggression is really a one way thing. Most British people have no dislike towards America. In fact I'd go so far as to say we are pretty much indifferent to you, although you do provide us with some good movies, Diet Pepsi and you invented the XBox, which was nice, thanks for that!
Admittedly we are mildly irritated to how overly loud you always are and that whole "USA, USA, USA..."whoop- whooping , followed by high fives all round , thing you do is completely cringe worthy and we get embarrassed for you, but still, there's no real hate.
To us America is like the spoilt kid that lives down the block, noisy, attention seeking and causes a little too much trouble for comfort. You can't really do anything about is so you just ignore him and get on with it.

/I have been all over the world and all around America, next to Taiwan, at a modestly priced restaurant, America has hands down the worst food out there! I want a meal, not junk food.
// Pan fry that salmon, skin side down, do not turn. When the colour change reaches half way up the side of the fillet dress with red pesto and finish in the oven! Serve with rosemary and peppered potatoes and un-peeled roasted carrots.
/// Use Alaskan salmon for best results

oldtaku: Smackledorfer:
Citation please.


Sorry, it was pre-internet, therefore pre history. But I lived through those dark times. There were two competing tribes - eat carbs (avoiding meat) and eat protein (avoiding carbs). I vividly remember my mom feeding us pasta for this reason. Then later on, then Atkins diet, both for my Dad. They both had scientific backing if you read Prevention Magazine, because you can prove almost any single factor premise you care to, other than sucking down pure poison.

C'mon, you can still see this now. Is coffee healthy or not? Is alcohol healthy or not? Obviously, if you take a step back, the answer is 'in moderation, yes' but you wouldn't get that from the studies, which need some absolute pronouncement to get some publicity. I believe in science, in the long run, but individual scientists try to be way more fQ#4ing authoritative than they have any right to be.

Actually you would absolutely get the moderation answer from the studies themselves. You wouldn't get that answer from sensationalism in the media.

and I set you backed away from the pasta and cottage cheese diet claim altogether. Now it's two different diets.

Cottage cheese has too many carbs to be cottage cheese only according to a no carbs diet plan, and Atkins recommends veggies and variety.

but why am I not surprised that a child of fad dieters also has a penchant for exaggerating the hell out of facts? nonsensical reasoning runs in the family I suppose.

This is based on the marketing claims by British grocery stores about their prepared foods. Fail.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Salmon is a fresh water fish.

Kokanee salmon are exclusively freshwater; the others spend most of their time in the ocean.

The scientists also included their own sports drink creation which could genuinely claim to boost performance.

Bingo.

/red flags started flying when they went with "sugar free caramel" over honey. Or hell, even just freaking fruit it's for the freaking yogurt.

Sounds expensive.

I kept reading "health claims" as "health clams" and was wondering how anyone could eat 4,000 (or even 222) of them.

Health Clams: Food of the FUTURE!

What a healthy meal may look like.

I also remember the entire world dying in the 90s because of lack of food, all our resources running out in the 80s, global winter, peak oil, etc etc etc.

I do believe in science in the long run. it's cumulative. But any individual result is probably full of shiat, because individual scientists tend to stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la what confounding factors?' because it makes things complicated, and you'll never publish that way.

Which is why I'm ignoring this and just eating reasonably (and deliciously). I eat meat, I eat carbs, I drink wine, I drink beer, I eat veggies, I don't worry about real sugar. I'm middle aged and still incredibly healthy, and I half think it's because I just don't worry myself to death about it. This kind of article is for women who need to know what to eat next without fear - because The Daily Mail, like FOX, spends all its time trying to make sure they're pissing themselves in fear the rest of the time.

Smackledorfer:
Citation please.


Sorry, it was pre-internet, therefore pre history. But I lived through those dark times. There were two competing tribes - eat carbs (avoiding meat) and eat protein (avoiding carbs). I vividly remember my mom feeding us pasta for this reason. Then later on, then Atkins diet, both for my Dad. They both had scientific backing if you read Prevention Magazine, because you can prove almost any single factor premise you care to, other than sucking down pure poison.

C'mon, you can still see this now. Is coffee healthy or not? Is alcohol healthy or not? Obviously, if you take a step back, the answer is 'in moderation, yes' but you wouldn't get that from the studies, which need some absolute pronouncement to get some publicity. I believe in science, in the long run, but individual scientists try to be way more fQ#4ing authoritative than they have any right to be.

untaken_name: Tyranicle: Raw liver is the Healthiest. Meal. Ever. Provides all the nutrients the body needs.

\why europeans became tall, healthy and long lived.

Why not eat your HEPA filter, too? Yummy, concentrated toxins!

The liver doesn't store toxins, it is packed with enzymes that convert toxins into harmless substances. The liver is where toxins have the least chance of survival. As a result, there is probably no place in your body with a lower concentration of toxins than your liver.

Philbb: untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.

Science says it's okay, but some folks without substantiation claim that it's not okay and you want science to to prove one side or the other?

Sure, I'll google that for you.

ACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax
Study reaffirms safety of aspartame
Clinical Studies on the Side Effects of Aspartame

Oh, look, another who thinks Google is a substitute for actual research. You'll note that the first link you posted is a debunking of the "turns into formaldehyde when heated" myth, which isn't referenced by the OP, #2 is a 4-month study of fewer than 100 people which didn't address any of the specific claims made by the OP, and was funded by the Nutra-Sweet Co, and #3 provides conflicting "summaries" for both sides but no actual data (including 3 references to the same person's work). Note that I am not claiming that aspartame is dangerous, just that you have not sufficiently proved your case that the negative effects listed have been "debunked". But thanks for googling useless links for me and making me waste my time reading them. That was awesome of you.

oldtaku: oldtaku:
Oh right, that's not just in, that's over 40 years old for you dumb bastards who believed them when they said eat nothing but pasta and cream cheese.

Oop, cottage cheese. But it doesn't really matter, does it?

Citation please.

Otherwise all I read was "drrr, scientists don't know nothin cause 1. that one study I read as interpreted by a GED holding magazine writer was crazy and 2. They've updated their views over time, and I'm gonna make up even crazier shiat to prove my point"


Don't get me wrong, I'll give you the history of cholesterol. I'd also counter it with the fact that, regardless of where they fell on eggs and beef over the years, if you wanted to be healthy and followed the prevailing consensus of the time, you would have been pretty healthy.

This just in: Scientists have no idea what the fark they're doing with food or drink.

Oh right, that's not just in, that's over 40 years old for you dumb bastards who believed them when they said eat nothing but pasta and cream cheese.

gumpy: untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.

in which case surely no citation debunking is required?

There is no citation required for stating that one doesn't know what, if any, negative effects aspartame has, or that one doesn't believe it has negative effects. If, however, the assertion is made that the negative effects claimed by the OP have been debunked, a citation is needed. That's an assertion which requires hard data in order to be true - and thus, the data should be available to be cited.

Ah, the English. Advice from the culture that once conqured half of this planet but still warms their beers and chills their baths and never did figure out forced air furnaces or cable television.

Pass.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom : Ooh, is that labia stew?

I pity the foo who don't know pho.

Delicious and nutritious.

Not perfect. Nothing is. something something different chemistries.

Eat Mor Chikin.
If you're in California, and can't Eat Mor Chikin, just Eat Mor Avocado. And Pesto. And Garlic. And In 'N Out.

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What he said.

What NBG and FA's atherosclerotic aortic arteries look like.
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You know...that actually looks farking tasty!

/Not fat.

Well Armed Sheep: I hear Sweet Potatoes are good for you.

Sweet potatoes are good for you. Unfortunately, they taste like excrement.

\never actually tasted excrement, had a bad experience eating sweet potatoes at the age of four. Will never eat it again.

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What he said.

What NBG and FA's atherosclerotic aortic arteries look like.
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I think I've eaten lasagna or a reasonably similar italian dish that looked a lot like that. It looks delicious.

Salad is not food. Salad is what food eats.

Only the British could think cold mushed-up fish is the best thing ever.

Just eat a piece of grilled salmon.

I hear Sweet Potatoes are good for you.

Bread roll = loaded with gluten

As to chicken



And of course, there's the sugar free horror of ...



Other than all that, this advice is busy body suckage. STFU and go have a BBQ.

Activated charcoal tablets? Seriously?!?!

Healthiest meal ever: After editing thousands of claims, scientists serve up a superdish


Yeah, I misread it as reading "eating thousands of clams, scientists serve up superfish'.

Just ask this scientician!