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2012-06-18 03:07:11 AM  

untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.


in which case surely no citation debunking is required?
 
2012-06-18 03:13:07 AM  

GAT_00: Did I really just hit superscript instead of strikethrough? Goddammit.


Don't get too worked up about it.... it is a FARK discussion forum, not a doctorates dissertation exam. meh. :-p
 
2012-06-18 03:17:09 AM  

gumpy: untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.

in which case surely no citation debunking is required?


There is no citation required for stating that one doesn't know what, if any, negative effects aspartame has, or that one doesn't believe it has negative effects. If, however, the assertion is made that the negative effects claimed by the OP have been debunked, a citation is needed. That's an assertion which requires hard data in order to be true - and thus, the data should be available to be cited.
 
2012-06-18 03:27:43 AM  
This just in: Scientists have no idea what the fark they're doing with food or drink.

Oh right, that's not just in, that's over 40 years old for you dumb bastards who believed them when they said eat nothing but pasta and cream cheese.
 
2012-06-18 03:29:22 AM  

oldtaku:
Oh right, that's not just in, that's over 40 years old for you dumb bastards who believed them when they said eat nothing but pasta and cream cheese.


Oop, cottage cheese. But it doesn't really matter, does it?
 
2012-06-18 03:30:36 AM  

12349876: You better watch out for the blancmange. Especially with Wimbledon only a week away!

[orangecow.org image 404x300]


Damnit.


NewportBarGuy: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-18 03:37:15 AM  

untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.


Science says it's okay, but some folks without substantiation claim that it's not okay and you want science to to prove one side or the other?

Sure, I'll google that for you.

ACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax


Study reaffirms safety of aspartame


Clinical Studies on the Side Effects of Aspartame

 
2012-06-18 03:39:26 AM  

hamfast gamgee: Gordinho: @Newportbarguy re: Full English Brekkie, now you're talking...

Seriously? I gag every time I see someone eating all that. Puts me right off my Coco Puffs.

Fark - not one bacon reference?

[www.mopo.ca image 480x360]


That bread is garbage, and I don't even think its toasted. You make me ashamed.
 
2012-06-18 03:46:03 AM  

oldtaku: oldtaku:
Oh right, that's not just in, that's over 40 years old for you dumb bastards who believed them when they said eat nothing but pasta and cream cheese.

Oop, cottage cheese. But it doesn't really matter, does it?


Citation please.

Otherwise all I read was "drrr, scientists don't know nothin cause 1. that one study I read as interpreted by a GED holding magazine writer was crazy and 2. They've updated their views over time, and I'm gonna make up even crazier shiat to prove my point"


Don't get me wrong, I'll give you the history of cholesterol. I'd also counter it with the fact that, regardless of where they fell on eggs and beef over the years, if you wanted to be healthy and followed the prevailing consensus of the time, you would have been pretty healthy.
 
2012-06-18 03:56:40 AM  

Philbb: untaken_name: Philbb: Completely debunked over two decades ago.

Do you have a link to the clinical trial where it was debunked? Or are you referring to the FDA "study"?
I haven't seen any actual double-blind trial data for either side of this argument.

Science says it's okay, but some folks without substantiation claim that it's not okay and you want science to to prove one side or the other?

Sure, I'll google that for you.

ACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax
Study reaffirms safety of aspartame
Clinical Studies on the Side Effects of Aspartame


Oh, look, another who thinks Google is a substitute for actual research. You'll note that the first link you posted is a debunking of the "turns into formaldehyde when heated" myth, which isn't referenced by the OP, #2 is a 4-month study of fewer than 100 people which didn't address any of the specific claims made by the OP, and was funded by the Nutra-Sweet Co, and #3 provides conflicting "summaries" for both sides but no actual data (including 3 references to the same person's work). Note that I am not claiming that aspartame is dangerous, just that you have not sufficiently proved your case that the negative effects listed have been "debunked". But thanks for googling useless links for me and making me waste my time reading them. That was awesome of you.
 
2012-06-18 04:01:46 AM  

untaken_name: Tyranicle: Raw liver is the Healthiest. Meal. Ever. Provides all the nutrients the body needs.

\why europeans became tall, healthy and long lived.

Why not eat your HEPA filter, too? Yummy, concentrated toxins!


The liver doesn't store toxins, it is packed with enzymes that convert toxins into harmless substances. The liver is where toxins have the least chance of survival. As a result, there is probably no place in your body with a lower concentration of toxins than your liver.
 
2012-06-18 04:04:27 AM  

Smackledorfer:
Citation please.


Sorry, it was pre-internet, therefore pre history. But I lived through those dark times. There were two competing tribes - eat carbs (avoiding meat) and eat protein (avoiding carbs). I vividly remember my mom feeding us pasta for this reason. Then later on, then Atkins diet, both for my Dad. They both had scientific backing if you read Prevention Magazine, because you can prove almost any single factor premise you care to, other than sucking down pure poison.

C'mon, you can still see this now. Is coffee healthy or not? Is alcohol healthy or not? Obviously, if you take a step back, the answer is 'in moderation, yes' but you wouldn't get that from the studies, which need some absolute pronouncement to get some publicity. I believe in science, in the long run, but individual scientists try to be way more fQ#4ing authoritative than they have any right to be.
 
2012-06-18 04:13:11 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Salmon is a fresh water fish.


Salmon is a saltwater fish. Of course whether it is saline or estuarine is irrelevant. All fish are contaminated with mercury and the higher up the food chain the more concentrated it is.


//only freshwater when it spawns.

GAT_00: cretinbob: NewportBarGuy: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]

That plate looks like garbage British

But that's really the same thing.


Yeah, I was referring to something like this:

farm4.static.flickr.com

known as a garbage plate, and then realized what I was looking at afterwards.
 
2012-06-18 04:19:28 AM  

oldtaku: Smackledorfer:
Citation please.


Sorry, it was pre-internet, therefore pre history. But I lived through those dark times. There were two competing tribes - eat carbs (avoiding meat) and eat protein (avoiding carbs). I vividly remember my mom feeding us pasta for this reason. Then later on, then Atkins diet, both for my Dad. They both had scientific backing if you read Prevention Magazine, because you can prove almost any single factor premise you care to, other than sucking down pure poison.

C'mon, you can still see this now. Is coffee healthy or not? Is alcohol healthy or not? Obviously, if you take a step back, the answer is 'in moderation, yes' but you wouldn't get that from the studies, which need some absolute pronouncement to get some publicity. I believe in science, in the long run, but individual scientists try to be way more fQ#4ing authoritative than they have any right to be.


Actually you would absolutely get the moderation answer from the studies themselves. You wouldn't get that answer from sensationalism in the media.

and I set you backed away from the pasta and cottage cheese diet claim altogether. Now it's two different diets.

Cottage cheese has too many carbs to be cottage cheese only according to a no carbs diet plan, and Atkins recommends veggies and variety.

but why am I not surprised that a child of fad dieters also has a penchant for exaggerating the hell out of facts? nonsensical reasoning runs in the family I suppose.
 
2012-06-18 04:24:38 AM  
I also remember the entire world dying in the 90s because of lack of food, all our resources running out in the 80s, global winter, peak oil, etc etc etc.

I do believe in science in the long run. it's cumulative. But any individual result is probably full of shiat, because individual scientists tend to stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la what confounding factors?' because it makes things complicated, and you'll never publish that way.

Which is why I'm ignoring this and just eating reasonably (and deliciously). I eat meat, I eat carbs, I drink wine, I drink beer, I eat veggies, I don't worry about real sugar. I'm middle aged and still incredibly healthy, and I half think it's because I just don't worry myself to death about it. This kind of article is for women who need to know what to eat next without fear - because The Daily Mail, like FOX, spends all its time trying to make sure they're pissing themselves in fear the rest of the time.
 
2012-06-18 04:27:32 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Barbecue Bob: Delicious and nutritious.

Not perfect. Nothing is. something something different chemistries.

Ooh, is that labia stew?


I laughed at this so hard I think I woke my neighbor up.
 
2012-06-18 04:28:06 AM  

birdistasty: Activated charcoal tablets? Seriously?!?!


Good for reducing fartage after eating lots of roughage.
 
2012-06-18 04:29:36 AM  

Smackledorfer: Cottage cheese has too many carbs to be cottage cheese only according to a no carbs diet plan,


Hmm, no, you can have cottage cheese on Atkins. I lived it;. You're just kind of flailing here, kid. CITATION PLZ is http://www.atkins.com/Program/Phase-2/What-You-Can-Eat-in-this-Phase.a spx

nonsensical reasoning runs in the family I suppose.

Yeeeees, that must be it.
 
2012-06-18 04:44:33 AM  

Cyno01: 12349876: You better watch out for the blancmange. Especially with Wimbledon only a week away!

[orangecow.org image 404x300]

Damnit.


NewportBarGuy: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]

[i.imgur.com image 500x846]


Bottom picture needs moar beer.
 
2012-06-18 04:46:18 AM  

untaken_name: You'll note that the first link you posted is a debunking of the "turns into formaldehyde when heated" myth, which isn't referenced by the OP, #2 is a 4-month study of fewer than 100 people which didn't address any of the specific claims made by the OP, and was funded by the Nutra-Sweet Co, and #3 provides conflicting "summaries" for both sides but no actual data (including 3 references to the same person's work). Note that I am not claiming that aspartame is dangerous, just that you have not sufficiently proved your case that the negative effects listed have been "debunked". But thanks for googling useless links for me and making me waste my time reading them. That was awesome of you.


The OP was referencing claims by the FDA which the FDA disputed way back when in the "study" that you dismissed. Perhaps I should have just dismissed your concerns as baseless as well.

Both the US FDA and the UK FSA have determined that aspartame is safe for consumption in certain amounts. FDA approves an ADI of 50 mg/kg body weight/day and the FSA approves an ADI of 40 mg/kg bw/d.

Source
 
2012-06-18 04:56:15 AM  
Healthy, no doubt. But it makes you kind of ready to accept a little unhealthiness.

I feel sorry for the British. Lots of fat Americans, lots of fat British. If an American is fat it's because they eat too much deep dish pizza, hostess cupcakes, Lucky Charms, nachos....not really worth being fat for, but at least they taste good. If an Englishman is fat it's from blood pudding, trifle, those crazy fry-up breakfasts, maybe a little cheese if he's lucky....ewwww. No wonder they established colonies on every continent. Must have been looking for something to eat with a little flavor and consistency!
 
2012-06-18 04:57:16 AM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I thought they already did this, and the healthiest food ever was a type of nut paste. Maybe that was cheapest food ever.

My nut paste is remarkably healthy.


when you say nut paste do you really mean peanut butter?
 
2012-06-18 05:08:31 AM  

charro: The Pho at Pho Central in Vancouver is pretty good

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Now I'm hungry


That's just down the street from me. I'll try it for lunch tomorrow. Thanks for the reccomendation!

/um, it's not chicken-feet soup, is it? 'Cause that's what it kinda looks like.
 
2012-06-18 05:39:21 AM  

titwrench: 404 page not found: lordargent: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom : Ooh, is that labia stew?

I pity the foo who don't know pho.

Ever been to OB Noodle House?

The Pho place on Clairmont Mesa and Kearny Villa is really good to. I can't remember the name of it though.


Tajimas
 
2012-06-18 05:42:45 AM  

oldtaku: I do believe in science in the long run. it's cumulative. But any individual result is probably full of shiat, because individual scientists tend to stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la what confounding factors?' because it makes things complicated, and you'll never publish that way.


i1184.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-18 05:44:05 AM  

oldtaku: Smackledorfer:
Citation please.


Sorry, it was pre-internet, therefore pre history. But I lived through those dark times. There were two competing tribes - eat carbs (avoiding meat) and eat protein (avoiding carbs). I vividly remember my mom feeding us pasta for this reason. Then later on, then Atkins diet, both for my Dad. They both had scientific backing if you read Prevention Magazine, because you can prove almost any single factor premise you care to, other than sucking down pure poison.

C'mon, you can still see this now. Is coffee healthy or not? Is alcohol healthy or not? Obviously, if you take a step back, the answer is 'in moderation, yes' but you wouldn't get that from the studies, which need some absolute pronouncement to get some publicity. I believe in science, in the long run, but individual scientists try to be way more fQ#4ing authoritative than they have any right to be.


So true.

I had the food fad following parent and saw how different foods yo-yoed from being the only thing to eat three times a day to something that should never be eaten ever. Okay, I exaggerated that, but not by a lot. Ignore the scientists and maybe over ten years you can consume a sensible amount of eggs, listen to scientists and you spend five years on an egg free diet and then the next five years eating all those eggs you missed in the first five years and then some.

I can't be bothered looking for citations, but I watched my mother as she followed each and every latest food trend, what was considered to be good food or bad food, and yes they did change until they were completely opposite. Meat was good and potatoes were bad, then potatoes were good and meat was bad. Dammit just eat some of each and you've got it covered.

Seriously it is not hard. Eat different foods, doesn't really matter what sort, as long as it is in moderation.

Even if you do go nuts like those crazy folk that make the papers who will only eat chips and jam sandwiches, you still wont die from it. According to the scientists these people should be on a marble slab because they haven't had five vegetable servings a day etc etc. But they aren't dead, they are alive and well, go figure.
 
2012-06-18 06:12:48 AM  
You know that advice you always get, to drink 8 8-oz glasses of water per day (aka 2 "litres" in TFA)? That's based on no science whatsoever.Stop acting like you're going to keel over and die if you get a little thirsty.
 
2012-06-18 06:18:25 AM  
Some British tv program on twins I saw once,showed a delightful tale of two identical twins who were living rather different lives. One had moved to New Zealand, was fit and active in various sporting activities, was particular about eating a very healthy balanced diet etc. The other twin had remained in England, ran a pub, lived on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes and fried food, and couldn't be bothered with anything resembling exercise. One day he suffers some horrendous heart issues requiring some emergency surgery to save his life. When they learn he has an identical twin brother, the hospital staff insist on contacting him to tell him to see his doctor to get his heart checked.

The New Zealand twin thinks they are fussing over nothing, he is going to be fine, after all he is fit, he eats only healthy food, he doesn't smoke, not like his brother who totally had it coming. Next thing he knows he is rushed off to get the same type of surgery his brother had.

Pretty much what is going to kill you has already been decided by your genes before you were born, and there is really bugger all you can do about it. But it sure makes some people feel better to think that their diet is somehow going to buy them some extra years of life, and that they have some control of things that are really not in their control at all, but that is probably just human nature.
 
2012-06-18 06:32:04 AM  

mbillips: You know that advice you always get, to drink 8 8-oz glasses of water per day (aka 2 "litres" in TFA)? That's based on no science whatsoever.Stop acting like you're going to keel over and die if you get a little thirsty.


Very true. I bet the same is going to be the case when it come to all their ideas of what food we are "supposed" to eat.
 
2012-06-18 06:37:08 AM  
hamfast gamgee:
Ok. All my Splenda just got thrown out...

Aspartame is Equal(tm), Splenda(tm) is Sucralose, a different sugar. Much less nasty. Doesn't turn into formaldehyde when you bake it, for one.
 
2012-06-18 06:48:34 AM  

Philbb: Both the US FDA and the UK FSA have determined that aspartame is safe for consumption in certain amounts. FDA approves an ADI of 50 mg/kg body weight/day and the FSA approves an ADI of 40 mg/kg bw/d.


That's very special of you to quote studies. I still don't care. One piece of aspartame chewing gum results in my mouth going numb. Half a diet drink makes my hands shake and I can't grasp things. I don't really give a rip what your studies claim, nothing else has ever given me side effects like this. So to hell with aspartame. When I shop for gum its almost impossible to find one without it now. Dentyn Fire is about it. Or kids gums. Once upon a time it was safe to gargle with radon. The low doses didn't give most people problems, right? I invite you to drink up and hearty. Guzzle away!
 
2012-06-18 07:02:33 AM  

Nidiot: mbillips: You know that advice you always get, to drink 8 8-oz glasses of water per day (aka 2 "litres" in TFA)? That's based on no science whatsoever.Stop acting like you're going to keel over and die if you get a little thirsty.

Very true. I bet the same is going to be the case when it come to all their ideas of what food we are "supposed" to eat.


Just because one bit of conventional wisdom has no scientific basis doesn't mean that all health science is junk. I know that when I eat more veg and salad, and less fried stuff and booze, I feel better. And there's no end of actual research that backs that up.

Worrying about phantom "toxins," though, is the conspiracy-theory evil twin of health science. Gluten isn't bad for you unless you have a genetic defect. Salmon are one of the lowest-mercury fish. Liver can be bad for you, not because it metabolizes toxins, but because it contains too much Vitamin A.
 
2012-06-18 07:03:40 AM  
Bah Humbug! This is a scam trying to suck people into spending more money on fancy, so-called 'healthy' foods.
Notice the health claims are almost all "...helps to... " ? This is a euphemism for either 'placebo' or 'unproven' or 'no different from anything else you might eat instead'.
Notice this supposedly "healthy" diet calls for 'extra virgin' olive oil? Show us the data proving superiority of 'extra' virgin vs. less expensive regular virginity in Olive's oil...

True health and diet mantra:

Balance- Variety- Moderation

Balance
(food groups) ensures you get sufficient nutrients: vitamins, minerals, protein, fats/oils/ carbs, micro, etc.

Variety means try different members of the group. No one food is 'perfect', regardless of marketing claims. You like grapefruit? Great. Alternate with apples, bananas and other fruit. Same goes for other food groups. It also allows you the occasional cheeseburger or salmon, as whatever antinutrients might be consumed will be diluted to insignificance.

Moderation Don't go overboard on any kind of food, or in total diet. Don't consume more calories than you burn.

BVM is also the easiest, cheapest and most enjoyable diet to achieve/maintain good physical and mental health.

/no, I'm not selling nuthin'. Except common sense. Free.
 
2012-06-18 07:04:18 AM  
Wait, I thought kale chips were supposed to be the ne plus ultra of healthy food.

/can't keep up with the trends
 
2012-06-18 07:11:38 AM  
eh, the healthiest meals are the ones with variety and more raw ingredients... veggies, beans, rice, meat, fruit, whatever as long as the whole plate isn't just one item and it isn't cooked in pure bacon fat or covered in sugar or anything, you should be okay

of course if you're looking to lose weight - the simplest thing is just to burn far more calories than you consume regardless of whether you're eating steamed veggies or a happy meal

people who eat unhealthy and live unhealthy deserve to be unhealthy, that's just the way it is
 
2012-06-18 07:41:42 AM  
On this topic, I really enjoyed reading Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food. Seems like he employs some good sense oward dietary habit and he's a good writer.
 
2012-06-18 07:53:48 AM  

Max Awesome: Only the British could think cold mushed-up fish is the best thing ever.

Just eat a piece of grilled salmon.


What about the Japanese?

You have a lot of aggression towards the British there. You come across like an insecure little bully.
I often wonder why Americans are so aggressive towards the British. Why is that? Especially when the topic is food, "Only the British..." you sound like an old man recounting the time he caught his wife in bed with another man, why such bitterness?
Just so you know this aggression is really a one way thing. Most British people have no dislike towards America. In fact I'd go so far as to say we are pretty much indifferent to you, although you do provide us with some good movies, Diet Pepsi and you invented the XBox, which was nice, thanks for that!
Admittedly we are mildly irritated to how overly loud you always are and that whole "USA, USA, USA..."whoop- whooping , followed by high fives all round , thing you do is completely cringe worthy and we get embarrassed for you, but still, there's no real hate.
To us America is like the spoilt kid that lives down the block, noisy, attention seeking and causes a little too much trouble for comfort. You can't really do anything about is so you just ignore him and get on with it.

/I have been all over the world and all around America, next to Taiwan, at a modestly priced restaurant, America has hands down the worst food out there! I want a meal, not junk food.
// Pan fry that salmon, skin side down, do not turn. When the colour change reaches half way up the side of the fillet dress with red pesto and finish in the oven! Serve with rosemary and peppered potatoes and un-peeled roasted carrots.
/// Use Alaskan salmon for best results
 
2012-06-18 08:02:49 AM  

fusillade762: More image macros from the "Women smiling at food" collection:


She wasn't smiling at my food, she was smiling at my "food" if you know what I mean and I think you do
 
2012-06-18 08:37:20 AM  
Healthy, Yeah, maybe. Whatever.
Delicious? NAO !
 
2012-06-18 08:39:33 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I thought they already did this, and the healthiest food ever was a type of nut paste. Maybe that was cheapest food ever.


Plumpy'nut? It's very healthy for people with malnutrition or starvation. Most Westerners should avoid it unless they need to gain weight. Very high in calories.

But it's cheap and effective for people that are starving. It keeps and stores well. It's a great aid to help the famine-stricken countries.
 
2012-06-18 08:43:53 AM  

gmoney101: Max Awesome: Only the British could think cold mushed-up fish is the best thing ever.

Just eat a piece of grilled salmon.

What about the Japanese?

You have a lot of aggression towards the British there....

... you invented the XBox, which was nice, thanks for that!



British kids on XBL are why I personally have aggression towards the British. You kids are by far the worst little shiats in the world. I'd rather listen to some 12 year old American white kid scream "n----r n----r n----r" all damn day then to the farking annoying as hell antics of your godforsaken spawn. British kids can't speak English for all that the language was invented by their ancestors, they enjoy singing, they are constantly hyper, their voices are about two octaves higher than kids the same age from other parts of the world and the basically make me want to exterminate the human race, or mute them, either is good.
 
2012-06-18 08:55:18 AM  

Egoy3k: gmoney101: Max Awesome: Only the British could think cold mushed-up fish is the best thing ever.

Just eat a piece of grilled salmon.

What about the Japanese?

You have a lot of aggression towards the British there....

... you invented the XBox, which was nice, thanks for that!


British kids on XBL are why I personally have aggression towards the British. You kids are by far the worst little shiats in the world. I'd rather listen to some 12 year old American white kid scream "n----r n----r n----r" all damn day then to the farking annoying as hell antics of your godforsaken spawn. British kids can't speak English for all that the language was invented by their ancestors, they enjoy singing, they are constantly hyper, their voices are about two octaves higher than kids the same age from other parts of the world and the basically make me want to exterminate the human race, or mute them, either is good.


Heh...
 
2012-06-18 09:08:38 AM  
i46.tinypic.com

Is dissapoint.
 
2012-06-18 09:12:20 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: J. Frank Parnell: Except that salmon has mercury in it, and who knows what else.

Salmon is a fresh water fish.

They spawn in fresh water then migrate to the ocean to spend 5+ years before returning to spawn.


Plus, a lot of salmon people buy is farmed which has even more mercury in it. And freshwater fish have lots of mercury, too, sometimes even more than saltwater fish. Stay away from any fish caught near a runoff or in an urban area (fresh or salt water), and any older species (orange roughy, chilean sea bass, albacore tuna) or top of the food chain species (shark, swordfish, marlin). Sardines, herring, wild alaskan salmon, anchovies and farmed shell fish are your best bet. Mercury poisoning is no joke
 
2012-06-18 09:13:39 AM  

DamnYankees: Why does TFA hate America?


You should check out the comments in that article. The biatching is right up there with American's excuses for not eating healthy dusted with the whine from the special dietary needs peeps as to why the menu didn't take into account those with celiacs and lactose intolerance as if special dietary needs should infiltrate every prescription for healthy living. American's no longer corner the market on biatching about wanting to eat unhealthy or have special concessions made to cater to their issues.
 
2012-06-18 09:13:57 AM  
Their supermeal needs more beans and brown rice.
 
2012-06-18 09:17:20 AM  

gmoney101: Heh...


Damn it. I'd like to point out that my pre-coffee rantings without proofreading are not indicative of my ability to speak English but I can't really argue with that.
 
2012-06-18 09:19:19 AM  
Like someone else said, I RTFA and it all sounds quite expensive.

My cholesterol, glucose, etc were all exactly where they need to be, and I don't eat expensive health food.
I just don't eat crap, like McDonald's, or Hungry Man meals, or Ice Cream every other day, or Cheetos, or Eggs consistently, etc.

I do eat chicken, multi-grain anything (chips, crackers, etc), salads (with special low-sodium poppyseed dressing, it's very cheap), plenty of water, sometimes I have pork, depends on how it's prepared. I save bacon for special occasions, same for hamburger or steak. Try to limit how much dairy I eat, and I rarely drink milk. I love all kinds of veggies, and try to eat as much as I can / can afford.

It's hard with two kids, but I have them and the wife eating the above. My kids aren't allowed sodas. Once or twice a week they can have sugar-free Kool-Aid. They're not allowed gum or candy. They drink plenty of water, and milk in the morning with breakfast. Their portions are controlled, too.

The main reason I'm hard on my kids is because despite all this, I'm still about 50lbs overweight (300lbs at 6'3"), and I was never taught healthy eating habits when I was younger because we were poor and dinner was whatever Mom could damn well scrape up, and she deep-fried everything. It's been a learned thing for me, and it's taken about 8 years now, but I'm on the program. I just need to excercise more. I know if I start the kids off with the idea of "this is how we eat, etc", it will stick with them.
 
2012-06-18 09:20:10 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: All well and good until you die of mercury poisoning from the fish.


Beats uranus poisoning.
 
2012-06-18 09:20:53 AM  
Eat a varied diet. Concentrating on only a few foods is not what we're built for. We're not pure carnivores. We're not pure vegetarians. Eat a variety of stuff, fat included, and try to avoid too much of one thing. Superfoods is a neat idea, but in the end, we're not specialists. We need a varied diet to keep healthy. Meat on occasion. Nuts and fruits. Greens. Breads and grains were a nice way of filling up and getting some other things. Rice on occasion. Fish on occasion. Best way to stay healthy is to eat a variety.

Some foods better for you in the long run? Certainly. Eating nothing but McDonald's isn't really good for you, but a big ass burger with bacon and cheese on occasion isn't going to wreck you. Heck, your body likes the fat and salt. We crave things that our bodies need, the question is not going overboard.
 
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