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2012-06-17 10:05:10 PM
6 votes:
The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.

All this antibacterial shiat is just breeding supergerms that can't be killed with traditional methods.
2012-06-17 09:50:48 PM
5 votes:
I'm more concerned about bedbugs than some common bacteria hanging about on the bedspread or remote control.
2012-06-17 09:59:51 PM
4 votes:
I'd like to see a similar study done in hospitals.
2012-06-17 09:07:47 PM
4 votes:
I don't get people's germ-phobic panic about hotel bedspreads. Sure, they may not be that clean, but neither is pretty much any damn thing in the world. So just deal with it. And this particular kind of lazy "science" reporting is endemic amongst those people; yes, e-coli appears on pretty much everything in public. Oh no! And yet mysteriously most of us don't end up sick from e-coli picked up from the world at large; the vast majority of e-coli problems in the country are caused by contaminated food.

So no, I didn't think I could avoid body fluids and germs by not sitting on the bedspread. I just don't care about something that will almost certainly not hurt me. I do this thing I call "washing my hands." Revolutionary, I know, but it gets the job done.
2012-06-17 11:49:22 PM
3 votes:
Protip: never take the fitted sheet off of a hotel mattress. What you will see cannot be unseen.
2012-06-17 10:48:02 PM
3 votes:
The maid cart may be a villain...

Oh sure, blame it on the cleaning staph.
2012-06-17 08:49:34 PM
3 votes:
Same goes for just about any public area. Many of your fellow humans don't wash their hands after wiping their ass. They touch doorknobs, gasoline pump handles, railings, all the same things you touch when you're in a public space.
2012-06-18 11:12:35 AM
2 votes:
Rik01: '' -- or start carrying a few cans of Lysol spray.''

That last bit made me lol - reminded me of this post on snopes: (new window)

''...employees were told to keep Lysol with them at all times.
Theres a new disease brought in by foreigners that starts out
like small whiteheads on the skin. They were told to spray every John and
Motel room that they used or stayed in, to spray sheets and even carpets.''


Enjoyed reading some of those replies; many are also lol-worthy.
But just the idea of a totally Lysol-ed room makes me want to gag.


/and 'yes' the 'John' jokes are there
//Math: How many cans of Lysol do you need to bring to nuke everything on an average motel room carpet?
2012-06-18 06:55:31 AM
2 votes:
I wash in the bathroom taking a pee. In the stall this guy is taking a crap of the century. He moaned, blasted air, squirted, made splashing sounds, etc etc etc.... Then I hear the stall open soon followed by the door out. I was stunned and horrified. The guy was one of the computer techs who works on my computer from time to time.

Its bad enough when guys don't wash their hands after taking a piss. After taking a shait, not to wash your hands is just so unbelievable to me. Makes you wonder about going out to eat.

BTW, maybe my mother actually did her job, I do wash my hands what ever my business. Its a matter of respect. It not being an total ass hole.
2012-06-18 06:33:35 AM
2 votes:

doglover: But you know, you can not do your own research or anything.


True, in which case one would learn about the Hungarian doctor Ignaz Semmelweis, and the ridiculous amount of resistance he encountered in the mid-1800s when attempting to introduce the cutting-edge procedure of having the obstetricians wash their hands in an antiseptic solution prior to delivering babies. The "learned" medical men of the time thought it was ludicrous and insulting to be forced to wash their hands (even after working with cadavers), and as a result their mortality rates during childbirth were well in excess even of those where women had their children out on the street. Pretty sad that "modern" doctors of the time were killing people, given a provable means to prevent it, and chose to ignore it out of pride.
2012-06-18 03:12:51 AM
2 votes:
I learned about that years ago, which came as an unsettling surprise, being naïve enough to think hotels and motels virtually sterilized every room after use.

See, I was young and working in the local hospital, where hospital cleaning crews would often strip a room down to bed frames and mattresses, then fog it with a mist of a form of antiseptic acid. (I keep thinking boric acid.) The room would be sealed for a few hours, then opened and prepared for the next occupant.

They used the same process in the surgical theaters.

Much later I realized and learned that people are basically filthy pigs, many can't be bothered washing their hands after wiping their asses and hotel cleaning crews are underpaid, over worked and looking for shortcuts. Plus, the hotels themselves don't want too much expensive things washed -- like the bedspreads -- which would wear them out faster and require replacement.

Want some fun? Buy a standard sized black light -- one about a foot long that fits in a standard fluorescent light base. Next time you stop in a hotel, at night, turn off all the lights, turn on the black light and walk around the room and see what glows.

You'll be able to tell naturally glowing things -- like certain color threads in the curtains and bed spread, even the carpet, maybe even in paints on pictures. You'll also find things scattered about which are obviously from bodily fluids.

I still haven't figured out how sperm manages to get above the headboard in some places.

The light will illuminate blood, urine and sperm. It will also illuminate rat and mouse urine. Rats leave these trails of urine behind them to mark their path. Sometimes, you might have to get within a foot of the stain before the light is strong enough to set it aglow.

Pillow covers are rarely changed, though the pillow cases are. To conserve money, many places do not provide their cleaning crews with enough disposable rags, so the rag that cleaned the toilet might be rinsed out, doused with some antiseptic cleaning fluid and used to clean the phone.

Like many places, it hasn't sunk in that low level staff, over worked and underpaid are NOT going to do as great a job as you expect.

I've spotted grocery stores and other places offering hand cleaner stations so you can wipe your hands down after shopping and touching goods that other folks have done nearly everything with but shove up their arses. Some are offering antiseptic towels to wipe down the handles of your shopping carts before using them.

You might want to take some alcohol wipes with you during your next hotel stay to wipe down the phone before you use it and the TV remote. The switches on the bedside lamps also.

Now, surprisingly, many little mom and pop motels are the cleanest since they're family run and the owners take pride in them. They might be old and not exactly glamorous, but the majority will be comfortable and clean. However, if you find a lot of peeling paint, you might want to find another place.

If the hallway to your room smells like feet, you also might want to consider another place -- or start carrying a few cans of Lysol spray.
2012-06-18 02:49:28 AM
2 votes:
Maybe people should start washing their hands after using the toilet? Just a thought.
2012-06-17 11:56:38 PM
2 votes:
Can't avoid it.. Most I do is dump my luggage in the tub and check for bedbugs.. After that staying at a hotel really isn't any worse than going to any other public place and in many places probably cleaner.
2012-06-17 11:51:32 PM
2 votes:

austin_millbarge: FirstNationalBastard: The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.

Wanting everything you touch to be not slathered in poo isn't the same as wanting everything to be sterile.


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Let me tell you a true story about immunization ok. When I was a little boy in New York city in the nineteen-forties, we swam in the Hudson river. And it was filled with raw sewage! OK? We swam in raw sewage, you know, to cool off. And at that time the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids died from polio every year. But you know something? In my neighborhood no one ever got polio. No one! EVER! You know why? Cause WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE! It strengthened our immune system, the polio never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw shiat!

So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it! Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT!


My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully automatic military assault rifles, with night vision and laser scopes. And we have recently acquired phosphorous grenades, cluster bombs and anti personnel fragmentation mines.
2012-06-17 11:41:55 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, it's almost as if we evolved an immune system for a good reason or something.
2012-06-17 10:50:04 PM
2 votes:
You guys have NO idea just how much poop is on your toothbrush.
2012-06-18 11:27:03 AM
1 votes:

austin_millbarge: Wanting everything you touch to be not slathered in poo isn't the same as wanting everything to be sterile.


Just because it has the word "fecal" in it, doesn't mean it's poo. It's bacteria.

It's also farking everywhere, and on every single surface you touch.

Miraculously, you don't get sick from it because you have an immune system which has spent your entire life kicking this bacterias ass.

As long as you don't go full 2 girls 1 cup, you're pretty safe from the bacteria you encounter in everday life. It's (usually) when things that your immune system isn't used to dealing with that you get sick. Otherwise it's specific bacteria that's easily avoidable by not being a disgusting person or living in a 3rd world hellhole.
2012-06-18 07:49:39 AM
1 votes:
If you're worried about the t.v. remote in hotel rooms, you can slip a sandwich bag over it.
2012-06-18 07:39:41 AM
1 votes:
cgremlin: BronyMedic: Oh, oh! Are you going to tell us that Semmelweis is the reason why all modern medical studies should be ignored, and the one true cure for disease is x vitamin or mineral in copious amounts, preferably through your mail order delivery service?

No - I said nothing of the sort, nor did I attempt to imply it. The previous poster had said that many aspects of modern medicine weren't so modern, and I was pointing out that even some of the common-sense ideas that we now take for granted (such as the health benefit of washing one's hands) are actually quite new. I'm quite aware that Pasteur's ideas would not come about for some time after, and have known that since.


Oh, drat. I thought you were going to turn out to be one of these guys. WHY HAVE YOU DISSAPOINTED ME!?

https://skepfeeds.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/galileo-semmelweis-and-you /

doglover: BronyMedic: cgremlin: doglover: But you know, you can not do your own research or anything.

True, in which case one would learn about the Hungarian doctor Ignaz Semmelweis, and the ridiculous amount of resistance he encountered in the mid-1800s when attempting to introduce the cutting-edge procedure of having the obstetricians wash their hands in an antiseptic solution prior to delivering babies. The "learned" medical men of the time thought it was ludicrous and insulting to be forced to wash their hands (even after working with cadavers), and as a result their mortality rates during childbirth were well in excess even of those where women had their children out on the street. Pretty sad that "modern" doctors of the time were killing people, given a provable means to prevent it, and chose to ignore it out of pride.

Oh, oh! Are you going to tell us that Semmelweis is the reason why all modern medical studies should be ignored, and the one true cure for disease is x vitamin or mineral in copious amounts, preferably through your mail order delivery service?

/Helpful Protip: The Doctors of Semmelweis' time knew nothing about the germ theory of disease, or bacterial infection. It was all a glimmer in Pasteur's eye.
//Helpful Protip 2: The Galileo Gambit doesn't make you right.

Protip 3: The 1800's is pretty modern. They were smarter thoughout most of history.


Most of the top 10 causes of death in the United States prior to the 1920s were infectious diseases.
2012-06-18 06:41:27 AM
1 votes:

cgremlin: doglover: But you know, you can not do your own research or anything.

True, in which case one would learn about the Hungarian doctor Ignaz Semmelweis, and the ridiculous amount of resistance he encountered in the mid-1800s when attempting to introduce the cutting-edge procedure of having the obstetricians wash their hands in an antiseptic solution prior to delivering babies. The "learned" medical men of the time thought it was ludicrous and insulting to be forced to wash their hands (even after working with cadavers), and as a result their mortality rates during childbirth were well in excess even of those where women had their children out on the street. Pretty sad that "modern" doctors of the time were killing people, given a provable means to prevent it, and chose to ignore it out of pride.


"A gentleman's hands are always clean."
2012-06-18 06:24:40 AM
1 votes:
One Bad Apple:
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Hey guys what's going on in this thread ?

Stay away from the ceiling too


He went to my high school, no lie. I think he is its only famous graduate. Though all I ever saw on the ceilings were spitballs (or were they?)
2012-06-18 03:36:31 AM
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: cptjeff: Depends on how you measure it.

Tell me how it was for 50k years before modern medicine and "hand sanitizers?"


As described in my post. You make it past 10, you live a long time.

The measurement is a statisical bit. When people quote that 36 figure or whatever it is, it conceals a whole hell of a lot. Adults were not dropping dead. Lots of kids were, and lots of elderly people were. It's the same reason most researchers these days use life expectancy past age one as the number- infant mortality isn't all that closely linked with the rest of your life, and including it skews the results.

Most people have in their minds some impression that living to 50 was rare. That's simply false. Mid to late 60's was absolutely normal. If you kept busy and stayed strong and healthy in your old age, 70's or 80's wasn't out of the question. And this is in an era where people threw shiat in the streets. And the only people dying from it were those with immune systems that weren't yet built up or were compromised in some ways. And now we have ways of making those immune systems more powerful earlier, and helping them out.

Not to mention modern plumbing. You have festering piles of human excrement in your house? No? Then you're fine. Dispense with the crap about how dirty your house is and stop creating superbugs that our immune systems CAN'T handle. If germs were as scary as you seem to think they are, you would die from touching dirt. Squirrels shiat in that stuff, you know.
2012-06-18 03:18:34 AM
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: cptjeff: Depends on how you measure it.

Tell me how it was for 50k years before modern medicine and "hand sanitizers?"


What do you define as modern medicine?

Because things like surgery predate the English language and white people people in the Americas. Back, WAY BACK, in the day people used moldy bread to treat infections. (sound familiar?) And the Romans had surgical staples in the form of silver pins. Not to mention anyone used to be able to buy opium, so it's not like anything hurt MORE back then.

But you know, you can not do your own research or anything.

Hand sanitizers are a pleasant commodity that's slowly incubating a second genocide by germs. Last time it was 100 million people. I wonder what it will be this time around.
2012-06-18 02:37:17 AM
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: Poison Appleseeds: just like every other human being for the last fifty thousand years.


Tell me how long life expectancy was in that golden age compared to now when so-called snowflakes are all over?


Depends on how you measure it. Past childhood, life expectancy was in the 60's, even in say, middle ages germany. If you had a healthy, adult immune system, you would be fine. The reason you see those numbers about life expectancy in the late 30s is because a shiatload of people died as kids, because they didn't have fully tempered immune systems. Those who survived past 10 or so could be expected to live long, healthy lives. Generally. Plagues would occasionally hit (not just the black one) which affected a ton of people because nobody had immunity. And the elderly and young were still much harder hit.

Your immune systems work pretty dang well, especially when we can train exactly how you're initially exposed to the more virulent stuff. That's called a vaccine, by the way.

Get over it. You know why your instinct is to eat the booger after picking your nose is to eat it? That's because we evolved to do that. The germs get caught by the mucus when you inhale, you take the mucus and put those things in your body at a controlled level. Ta da! Natural immune training.


jeaux65: When I first moved in with my husband back before we were engaged, I thought his hygiene habits were disgusting. Well, mainly one. He rarely washed his hands after going to the bathroom. Granted, he takes showers once a day and washes when his hands get dirty, but he rarely washes his hands after going to the bathroom unless he somehow gets poo on them.

I bugged him about it for years until it dawned on me one day that neither one of us ever really gets sick. Ever. And then we started having kids. And I watched him give our kids their pacifiers after them having fallen on the floor without washing them..I watched as he sat back and let our kids eat food that had fallen on the floor, ground, etc. Amazingly, our kids are rarely sick.

We do our best to make sure no food is left out, garbage taken care of, etc, but our house is rarely an immaculate, germ-free place.

I think our good health is partially due to allowing germs to be a regular part of our lives.
(I still wash my hands after every trip to the bathroom, out of habit.)

Yes. He's quoted Carlin to me on numerous occasions regarding this issue. At this point in our marriage with so much stacked against my germophobe point of view, I can't really argue on this issue anymore.


The germophobe approach also causes allergies. The best way to ensure your kid doesn't develop an allergy in cats is to have one around for the kid to try and bite while crawling around. Note that this approach is also recommended for creating amusing home videos to embarrass your child with later.
2012-06-18 02:14:41 AM
1 votes:
When I first moved in with my husband back before we were engaged, I thought his hygiene habits were disgusting. Well, mainly one. He rarely washed his hands after going to the bathroom. Granted, he takes showers once a day and washes when his hands get dirty, but he rarely washes his hands after going to the bathroom unless he somehow gets poo on them.

I bugged him about it for years until it dawned on me one day that neither one of us ever really gets sick. Ever. And then we started having kids. And I watched him give our kids their pacifiers after them having fallen on the floor without washing them..I watched as he sat back and let our kids eat food that had fallen on the floor, ground, etc. Amazingly, our kids are rarely sick.

We do our best to make sure no food is left out, garbage taken care of, etc, but our house is rarely an immaculate, germ-free place.

I think our good health is partially due to allowing germs to be a regular part of our lives.
(I still wash my hands after every trip to the bathroom, out of habit.)

Yes. He's quoted Carlin to me on numerous occasions regarding this issue. At this point in our marriage with so much stacked against my germophobe point of view, I can't really argue on this issue anymore.
2012-06-18 01:56:36 AM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Who gives a shiat? Just sleep on it, don't think about the trucker jizz or hooker sweat radioactive poon juice, and move on with your life.

2012-06-18 01:38:52 AM
1 votes:
Perhaps at some point in your life as a precious snowflake your going to have to come to the realization that you may have to come in contact with a few germs or viruses, and if you haven't depleted your bodies natural defense systems with high-octane hand lotion and antibacterial wipes you're gonna be just fine; just like every other human being for the last fifty thousand years. Or you can live with your mommy who'll wipe your hiney for you and give you a popsicle.
2012-06-18 01:17:01 AM
1 votes:

ty stick: How many different vaginas have most men buried their face in?
And your worried about a hotel room?


Seriously.

Get over it.

/Like licking ass too if she's cute enough.
2012-06-18 12:49:11 AM
1 votes:

Delay: manitobamadman: Anytime we stay in a hotel, me and the kids do a "dead hooker check", lift the matress and make sure there isn't one in the box spring, and we laugh .

We check the bath room for Whitney Houston and the closet for David Carradine.


We check the pool for Rodney King
2012-06-18 12:38:49 AM
1 votes:

manitobamadman: Anytime we stay in a hotel, me and the kids do a "dead hooker check", lift the matress and make sure there isn't one in the box spring, and we laugh .


What if there's not one there? Do you go cruising for streetwalkers or just browse Backpage?
2012-06-18 12:23:03 AM
1 votes:
As a former casino & hotel employee, I could tell you horror stories all day long about GRAs who just don't give a shiat about their jobs.
2012-06-18 12:18:10 AM
1 votes:

404 page not found: BronyMedic: Ghastly: Well I always make it my mission when I'm in a hotel to spooge in some place where people would not expect it.

Knowing you, darling, I would not be suprised.

intelligent comment below: FirstNationalBastard: The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.

All this antibacterial shiat is just breeding supergerms that can't be killed with traditional methods.


No, what's creating supergerms is everyone rushing to take medicine every time they get a little sick. The overuse of antibiotics for conditions that are not bacterial in nature, such as viral upper respiratory infections without symptoms of bacterial superinfection, and the idiots out there who DO have an appropriately prescribed antibiotic, but save the medicine after they start "feeling better".

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Always thought FARKers looked like this too from that vid:

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//yield
2012-06-18 12:16:05 AM
1 votes:

optikeye: I'm more concerned about bedbugs than some common bacteria hanging about on the bedspread or remote control.


This. Oh yeah,, BEDBUGS!
2012-06-18 12:10:15 AM
1 votes:
I'm not reading this, because I don't frickin' want to know what fresh (or not so fresh) hell is waiting for us at our hotel room. I'll just keep getting the best hotel/room we can, and stripping the beds immediately upon arrival, to make sure there are no bed bugs along the seams of the mattress. Ta da!

/Away from the elevator.
//On the top floor (no noisy upstairs neighbors.)
///Side opposite the main street.
////Away from bright lights.
//Bring a noise maker.
//Bring a little fan.
//Bring ear plugs.
2012-06-18 12:08:08 AM
1 votes:
How many different vaginas have most men buried their face in?
And your worried about a hotel room?
2012-06-18 12:06:27 AM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Ghastly: Well I always make it my mission when I'm in a hotel to spooge in some place where people would not expect it.

Knowing you, darling, I would not be suprised.

intelligent comment below: FirstNationalBastard: The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.

All this antibacterial shiat is just breeding supergerms that can't be killed with traditional methods.


No, what's creating supergerms is everyone rushing to take medicine every time they get a little sick. The overuse of antibiotics for conditions that are not bacterial in nature, such as viral upper respiratory infections without symptoms of bacterial superinfection, and the idiots out there who DO have an appropriately prescribed antibiotic, but save the medicine after they start "feeling better".

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Evolution, baby!



Fixed for accuracy, simplicity.
2012-06-17 11:59:46 PM
1 votes:
I wash my hands and don't lick remote controls or doorknobs, so this isn't much of a concern to me.
2012-06-17 11:49:11 PM
1 votes:
Whenever I go to hotels it's almost expressly for the purpose of spreading around my own bodily fluids.
2012-06-17 11:44:46 PM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.

All this antibacterial shiat is just breeding supergerms that can't be killed with traditional methods.



No, what's creating supergerms is everyone rushing to take medicine every time they get a little sick.
2012-06-17 11:44:41 PM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: The obsession with everything being sterile and clean is doing us more harm than good.


Wanting everything you touch to be not slathered in poo isn't the same as wanting everything to be sterile.
2012-06-17 11:41:59 PM
1 votes:
This is why I sleep under overpasses and in alleyways.
2012-06-17 10:09:59 PM
1 votes:
I shoot gamma rays at everything in a hotel room. Problem solved.

/Sucks to be you in 35 years, random person next door.
2012-06-17 09:51:19 PM
1 votes:
Did you think that you couldn't do something that you do every day? Ha ha, think again!

(Stop being a 5 year old worrying about cooties, subby.)
2012-06-17 09:49:45 PM
1 votes:
you mean I'm not supposed to teabag the hotel alarm clock to press snooze?
 
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