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2012-06-17 04:35:20 PM
Not everybody wants to put Grandma on the ice floe.
 
2012-06-17 04:40:52 PM
Because racism, anti-intellectualism, and xenophobia is JUST what a growing child needs.

/fark off, teabagging trash. Even kids are too smart for your little cult.
 
2012-06-17 04:43:15 PM

Dingfod: Not everybody wants to put Grandma on the ice floe.


That, and typically young people aren't interested in the socially regressive, environmentally irresponsible agenda of the Tea Party.
 
2012-06-17 04:45:54 PM
Yah...maybe the tea party should release a rap CD to appeal to young kids. You can have tracks called "Don't tax the rich" and "Throw momma off welfare" and "deport the brown people".

I'll bet it would be a real hit!
 
2012-06-17 04:55:42 PM
If young white rich Americans knew what was good for them (and only them), they would all be in the Tea Party.
 
2012-06-17 05:07:49 PM
Young poor minorities in this country aren't Real Americans anyway and probably need to be deported.
 
2012-06-17 05:09:54 PM

Confabulat: Young poor minorities in this country aren't Real Americans anyway and probably need to be deported.


"Probably"?
 
2012-06-17 05:14:47 PM
"If young Americans knew what was good for them, they would all be in the Tea Party" ... kicking some fat old butt.

Take a look at the demographics of the Tea Party versus the demographics of young Americans: already, in urban areas, there are schools with scarcely a white face among the pupils. In the next twenty or thirty years, that brown shadow is going to fall across the faces of the American majority.

It has won the cradle already and is moving through the toddlers.

More of these kids are poor. Poverty used to be for the elderly. Liberalism, trade unionism, social welfare, etc., solved that problem. High wages and high employment (as well as high taxes) helped a lot. But the high taxes are gone, the high employment is gone, the high wages and benefits are gone and the 1%, massively white, middle-aged and elderly have reaped the benefits--they are right back where they were ante-bellum (I mean before the War on Poverty).

The interests of young people are not congruent with the interests of the retired well-to-do. The Poujadists of the Tea Party have nothing in common with the youth of the Banlieux, the blackshirts of the Nationalists have nothing in common with the brown-skins of Asia and the West Indies, and the Tea Party is the Party of Old White Farts.

I'm not saying that they are all Rednecks, but they are all rednecks. Too much time on that lawn chair can burn you as badly as a long day's work in the hot, hot Sun.

Politicians encourage and exagerate divisions while talking about good sounding but non-forthcoming things like uniting and points of light and going to Mars. But in the real world, the reason that the Tea Party isn't embraced by anybody under the age of 60 is that it is the reaction of a dying breed. America has always belonged to the living, not the dead. In 2045, how many Tea Partiers will still be living seeing as many of them are in their 70s and life expectancy is less than 85 for children born today?

Will granny be voting at 100? Who's going to drive her? Who's going to have a car? If voting can be done online and with a reasonable degree of confidence that your vote will be tallied accurately and not washed out in anti-democratic fraud, who's going to care how she votes any way?

To survive a stampede, you must ride it, outrun it, or hide from it. Only the third option is a truly conservative option.
 
2012-06-17 06:01:48 PM
Maybe they mean it in that scared straight sense. Like the way they used to take kids to jails

As our economic difficulties have worsened, we voters have struggled to find the appropriate scapegoat.

Uh, Republicans have all kinds of scapegoats. Just not themselves and most certainly not Reagan, Bush 41 & 43 and tax cuts for the rich
 
2012-06-17 06:07:59 PM
Bah! Pointy-headed intemellectual. We don't care what no ivory tower pinhead says, right fellow 'baggers?
 
2012-06-17 06:15:25 PM
Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?
 
2012-06-17 06:19:26 PM
Their misguided idealism farks with their abilities to do basic math.
 
2012-06-17 06:34:55 PM

RobertBruce: Their misguided idealism farks with their abilities to do basic math.


actually, if people 'do the math' then they sure as hell won't vote tea party.
 
2012-06-17 06:45:48 PM

Weaver95: RobertBruce: Their misguided idealism farks with their abilities to do basic math.

actually, if people 'do the math' then they sure as hell won't vote tea party.



Numbers have a liberal bias.
 
2012-06-17 06:53:01 PM
Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.
 
2012-06-17 06:53:16 PM
I liked the Ascent of Money but Niall Ferguson is a total douche from what I've seen him say on news shows.
 
2012-06-17 06:55:03 PM

Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.


That's a good start, but needs more God and less gays.
 
2012-06-17 06:55:28 PM

Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.


and throw MORE people into jail cells! because hey, why not right?
 
2012-06-17 06:56:19 PM
That is the dumbest shiat I've read since the last right wing derp fest link.
 
2012-06-17 06:56:54 PM

St_Francis_P: Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.

That's a good start, but needs more God and less gays.


And the death penalty for anyone who says "vagina".
 
2012-06-17 06:57:15 PM
Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.
 
2012-06-17 06:57:19 PM

kmmontandon: Weaver95: RobertBruce: Their misguided idealism farks with their abilities to do basic math.

actually, if people 'do the math' then they sure as hell won't vote tea party.


Numbers have a liberal bias.


everything has a liberal bias when their political party goes from conservatism to absurdism.
 
2012-06-17 06:57:43 PM
Which part of the tea party's agenda should young people be excited about? The part where the tea party is undermining their education for the short term profit of wealthy charter school owners? Maybe the part where the tea party is cutting holes in our already weak infrastructure so they won't have safe roads and bridges. The part, perhaps, where the tea party is working to guarantee that over 99% of the country will be wage slaves to a few thousand super-wealthy individuals who control nearly all the wealth? Maybe the part where the tea party is actively working to ensure that health care will be affordable only to a wealthy few and those who haven't actually had to use their insurance yet, ensuring that those with more than one serious problem or less than exorbitant salaries die in pain and poverty and leave their families in debt for generations for nothing?

The only people who think the tea party is a good idea are the ones who can't think even five seconds into the future to foresee the consequences of their current actions. The tea party is one of the most anti-American things the world has ever seen and will do more to undermine the success of this country as a whole than every enemy we've had in the last sixty years combined was able to manage.
 
2012-06-17 06:57:44 PM

Vodka Zombie: Because racism, anti-intellectualism, and xenophobia is JUST what a growing child needs.

/fark off, teabagging trash. Even kids are too smart for your little cult.


THIS
 
2012-06-17 06:58:00 PM

brantgoose: More of these kids are poor. Poverty used to be for the elderly. Liberalism, trade unionism, social welfare, etc., solved that problem. High wages and high employment (as well as high taxes) helped a lot. But the high taxes are gone, the high employment is gone, the high wages and benefits are gone and the 1%, massively white, middle-aged and elderly have reaped the benefits--they are right back where they were ante-bellum (I mean before the War on Poverty).


The thing about the progressive racial equality in the 70's and 80s was that white people didn't suffer. Their incomes and lifestyle steadily improved at the same time racial minorities played catch-up at a faster rate. It's just they didn't see themselves as *as much* better off than the Rodriquez's, Chan's, and Washington's, so they thought they should be doing better than what they were.

Now they see many people of a different racial background as, if not more, economically successful than themselves, and they think "white people have fallen behind" not realizing how much white people have advanced economically from where they were in the 60's.
 
2012-06-17 06:58:12 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.


iPads!

*drink*
 
2012-06-17 06:59:09 PM
F*ck the Tea Party.
 
2012-06-17 06:59:19 PM

Weaver95: Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.

and throw MORE people into jail cells! because hey, why not right?


They can pay for themselves by working for pennies a day, especially since the alternative is slowly going insane while staring at the walls of your cell.
 
2012-06-17 07:00:49 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.


Yeah...people who don't agree with you are shallow and stupid!!
 
2012-06-17 07:00:52 PM

ox45tallboy: Weaver95: Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.

and throw MORE people into jail cells! because hey, why not right?

They can pay for themselves by working for pennies a day, especially since the alternative is slowly going insane while staring at the walls of your cell.


it still blows my mind that in this country you can be arrested for resisting arrest, and that's the ONLY charge. think about the logic behind that for a moment.
 
2012-06-17 07:00:54 PM

Splinshints: The tea party is one of the most anti-American things the world has ever seen and will do more to undermine the success of this country as a whole than every enemy we've had in the last sixty years combined was able to manage.


i.thestreet.com
 
2012-06-17 07:01:12 PM
A bunch of fat, loud, middle-age dimwits rolling around on medicare scooters in cheap, Chinese made American flag T-shirts holding poorly constructed, misspelled signs.

Why wouldn't young people think they're cool?

Just because someone gets older doesn't mean they're suddenly wise.
 
2012-06-17 07:02:24 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: F*ck the Tea Party.


No thanks. Have you SEEN those people?

*shivers*
 
2012-06-17 07:02:53 PM

Weaver95: Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.

and throw MORE people into jail cells! because hey, why not right?



More *PRIVATE PRISON* jail cells. Duh! (lol)
 
2012-06-17 07:03:08 PM
Young americans? I prefer Let's Dance.
 
2012-06-17 07:04:59 PM
We should not be responsible for the debts of our fathers.
 
2012-06-17 07:07:14 PM

theteacher: We should not be responsible for the debts of our fathers.


yeah, but if we don't put the slave collars on 'em when they're young then they'll fight back. And that's just inefficient.
 
2012-06-17 07:08:15 PM

Weaver95: ox45tallboy: Weaver95: Antimatter: Obviously the solution is to cut all social services, and increase tax cuts for the rich and DoD spending.

and throw MORE people into jail cells! because hey, why not right?

They can pay for themselves by working for pennies a day, especially since the alternative is slowly going insane while staring at the walls of your cell.

it still blows my mind that in this country you can be arrested for resisting arrest, and that's the ONLY charge. think about the logic behind that for a moment.


Why does that blow your mind?

Arrests can be made without eventually charging someone.

Also, does "resisting arrest" apply to resisting an investigative detention?
 
2012-06-17 07:10:12 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.


And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.
 
2012-06-17 07:13:03 PM

Tea party is a good name when you consider they're all mad as Hatters.

youngnotions.files.wordpress.com

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-17 07:14:21 PM
Perhaps if Prof. Ferguson had a background in economics rather than philosophy and history, two studies regarded by the tea party as worthless, he would be wise enough to know that austerity is a terrible policy during a recession and recovery. But let's do look for policy advice from a bunch of old racist revolutionary war cosplayers who value hillbilly common sense over empirical evidence and careful research and study.
 
2012-06-17 07:14:31 PM
Hear that, Young Americans?
The Tea Party thinks you're stupid.
 
2012-06-17 07:15:04 PM
If us young people knew what was good for us we'd invent a time machine, go back to a bunch of points in the past few decades, and tell a bunch of people to rein it in. It's too late.

/I'm 26. That's young enough, no?
 
2012-06-17 07:15:08 PM

ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.


He also drinks ass tears.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-17 07:17:34 PM

ox45tallboy: ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.

He also drinks ass tears.


Nice.
 
2012-06-17 07:18:35 PM
This is a standard issue rant by a right-winger from the U.K. who is apparently under the impression that the teabaggers have something to do with fiscal conservatism.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-17 07:18:37 PM

ox45tallboy: ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.

He also drinks ass tears.

[i.imgur.com image 600x480]


LOL, fekkin ewwwwww!
 
2012-06-17 07:18:39 PM

ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.


Ah, you hangin with the youth....doesn't your restraining order prevent that? Stop touching the youth bro.

ox45tallboy:
He also drinks ass tears.

Like you don't. Pfft.
 
2012-06-17 07:18:58 PM
IS THAT TEA BAGGER SURE HE HAS ENOUGH FLAGS ON HIS PANTS!!??

Oh my gods, he needs more flags on his pants!
 
2012-06-17 07:19:40 PM

ps69: Perhaps if Prof. Ferguson had a background in economics rather than philosophy and history, two studies regarded by the tea party as worthless, he would be wise enough to know that austerity is a terrible policy during a recession and recovery. But let's do look for policy advice from a bunch of old racist revolutionary war cosplayers who value hillbilly common sense over empirical evidence and careful research and study.


b-b-b-b-b-but gold standard! Tea Party knows economics!
 
2012-06-17 07:21:19 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: F*ck the Tea Party.


No thanks. I don't them remotely attractive.
 
2012-06-17 07:26:48 PM
If Americans of any age knew what was good for them they'd be standing with us in Occupy. fark the Tea Party.
 
2012-06-17 07:27:20 PM

NewportBarGuy: Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?


ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.


I think the Pasta boy missed your post Newport. He'd be VERY upset with you~!
 
2012-06-17 07:29:57 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Bah! Pointy-headed intemellectual. We don't care what no ivory tower pinhead says, right fellow 'baggers?


Woooooot!

/pass me a cold one, brother!
 
2012-06-17 07:36:01 PM
That pompous A-hole John Boehner single-handedly instigated a downgrade of the American credit rating over a debt ceiling debacle of his own creation. Somehow, this doesn't seem good for the young people in this country.
 
2012-06-17 07:37:04 PM
Kill all the old people, got it
 
2012-06-17 07:37:21 PM
This is partly why I'd like to see the Democrats get supermajorities in this country. They will have no more excuses for anything and the country will have 100% employment and cars that will run on unicorn farts instead of gasoline. At least that's what about 90% of fark believes.
 
2012-06-17 07:39:00 PM
I recall, shortly after Obama was elected, reading an article in which a tea party affiliated legislator put on a show in his legislative chamber. The show had a faux Obama whipping an elderly white woman who was saying "I'll get the money for the abortions massa, I'll get the money."

Then there are the signs that read something like "Tax payers are the jews in Obama's ovens."

I just can't understand why the tea party isn't more attractive to young voters.
 
2012-06-17 07:39:09 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-17 07:39:16 PM

NewportBarGuy: Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?


Hmm, I usually don't agree with your politics and your taste in New England based sports teams, but it's hard for me to argue with you on that point.
 
2012-06-17 07:39:23 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: NewportBarGuy: Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?

ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.

I think the Pasta boy missed your post Newport. He'd be VERY upset with you~!


It's amazing how people can unironically quote the generation that came before them.

/just replace iDevice with casette player, Xbox with Atari, Facebook/Twitter with whatever flash-in-the-pan social trend, and The Situation with ...let's say the Fonz.
 
2012-06-17 07:42:41 PM
So hatred to your country and most of the people in it?
 
2012-06-17 07:42:43 PM

Empty Matchbook: 3_Butt_Cheeks: NewportBarGuy: Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?

ThePastafarian: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Young Americans only care about their iDevice, Xbox, how many friends or followers they have on Facebook or Twitter, and how they can be more like the Situation.

And ButtGuy demonstrates how right-wingers are out of touch with the youth of the nation.

I think the Pasta boy missed your post Newport. He'd be VERY upset with you~!

It's amazing how people can unironically quote the generation that came before them.

/just replace iDevice with casette player, Xbox with Atari, Facebook/Twitter with whatever flash-in-the-pan social trend, and The Situation with ...let's say the Fonz.


It's just amazing. Really, I mean things are exactly the same.
 
2012-06-17 07:42:45 PM
Tea Parties are for little girls and mad hatters. And you don't much look like a hatter, son.
 
2012-06-17 07:43:25 PM

Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 640x480]


That almost makes me physically ill. The sign and his shirt.
 
2012-06-17 07:45:05 PM

mikemoto: This is partly why I'd like to see the Democrats get supermajorities in this country. They will have no more excuses for anything and the country will have 100% employment and cars that will run on unicorn farts instead of gasoline. At least that's what about 90% of fark believes.


www.gossipcop.com

"Ooooh, sorry, we stopped for tacos with Sheriff Joe."
 
2012-06-17 07:47:01 PM

mikemoto: This is partly why I'd like to see the Democrats get supermajorities in this country. They will have no more excuses for anything and the country will have 100% employment and cars that will run on unicorn farts instead of gasoline. At least that's what about 90% of fark believes.


Democrats may be stupid, but at least they're not actively evil.
 
2012-06-17 07:47:10 PM

artifishy: So hatred to your country and most of the people in it?


encrypted-tbn0.google.com

What a proud America hater might look like.
 
2012-06-17 07:49:53 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: artifishy: So hatred to your country and most of the people in it?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 221x228]

What a proud America hater might look like.


What's the history on that pic?
 
2012-06-17 07:50:25 PM
citizenwells.files.wordpress.com



nimg.sulekha.com

www3.pictures.zimbio.com

/I know the Future, I am a wizard!


www4.pictures.zimbio.com

/sometimes, truth comes out!

www4.pictures.zimbio.com

/Smoking and bumper sticker politics to the MAX!!!
 
2012-06-17 07:51:25 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: artifishy: So hatred to your country and most of the people in it?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 221x228]

What a proud America hater might look like.


After you took the pic, did you gargle on his butt tears?
 
2012-06-17 07:53:14 PM
If young Americans..in fact any Americans knew what was good for them, we would all,abandon these two corrupt political parties that manipulate and divide us for their gain. Sad. Their power at our expense.
 
2012-06-17 07:53:56 PM
It's kind of sad and funny to remember back when the Tea Party styled themselves as being "libertarian". They certainly got over that phase in a hurry.
 
2012-06-17 07:57:06 PM
Obvious tag on vacation?

If young people knew what was best for them, they wouldn't be young people.
 
2012-06-17 07:57:40 PM
Why the hell would I support a platform that guarantees no cuts for any of the baby boomers but massive cuts for everyone younger than them? The rest of my cohort and I sure as fark didn't cause any of the problems that brought the country to its knees, so why should we be the only people who pay for all of the solutions?
 
2012-06-17 07:59:45 PM

Chimperror2: Obvious tag on vacation?

If young people knew what was best for them, they wouldn't be young people.


Should young people have the socialism beaten out of them too?
 
2012-06-17 08:00:47 PM

Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 640x480]

Christian
American
Heterosexual
Pro-Gun
Conservative
Any questions?


Probably none that you wouldn't need explained to you.
 
2012-06-17 08:05:41 PM

stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: artifishy: So hatred to your country and most of the people in it?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 221x228]

What a proud America hater might look like.

After you took the pic, did you gargle on his butt tears?


Well duh.
 
2012-06-17 08:05:45 PM
They should start a Tea Party Youth movement. They could wear brown shirts (the color of tea), maybe with some kind of cool symbol on the sleeve to look trendy.
 
2012-06-17 08:05:51 PM
What was Niall Ferguson writing about when Bush and Blair were in power?
Oh, yeah, I remember... war in Iraq is great, and the British empire was hunky dory.
 
2012-06-17 08:06:03 PM
When polled young people generally expect no social security when they are old enough AND oppose any cuts right now that would reduce what they are paying. Its almost as if there are reasons other than naked self interest to vote a certain way.
Whoda thunk.
 
2012-06-17 08:07:16 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: If Americans of any age knew what was good for them they'd be standing with us in Occupy. fark the Tea Party.


Well judging by the rates of Chlamydia spread, I think Occupy pretty much farked anyone.
 
2012-06-17 08:07:23 PM
As the child of a Hispanic, single-mother immigrant, I have seen people dismiss her, boss her around, and treat her cruelly simply because of her "funny accent" and her tanned skin. I have also seen the looks they give her when it becomes revealed that she was a single mother who immigrated to the USA.

As an American in debt due to college expenses, I know what the consequences of increasingly right-wing policies in the past few decades have done to this country, and do my best to responsibly pay off that loan. As an educated individual, I have seen the GOP dismiss my concerns for the others entering this cycle as greedy, communist, and evil.

As an unmarried female whose life was actually saved by cheap and affordable contraceptives, I have observed the GOP criminalize me and other women as people that want a free ride, people that have no morals, and people who are Satanic.

As someone who has a lesbian family member who means so much to me, and I wish one day to be her bridesmaid as she walks down the aisle with her wife, I have seen the state of North Carolina tear her dream to pieces via the vile lies of "family values" and religion that is supposed to be separated from government to the 1st farkin' Amendment.

The day you see my name on a ticket that endorses a Republican candidate is the day I'm literally dead and those motherfarkers are committing voter fraud. With everything that I have seen in my lifetime, it'll be a cold day in hell that I vote Republican. They should be terrified, because unfortunately I'm not the only young voter that has been affected by this-- and their voter base is dying of old age.
 
2012-06-17 08:10:39 PM

Serious Black: Why the hell would I support a platform that guarantees no cuts for any of the baby boomers but massive cuts for everyone younger than them? The rest of my cohort and I sure as fark didn't cause any of the problems that brought the country to its knees, so why should we be the only people who pay for all of the solutions?


Because we are outnumbered in the voting booths. Damnitall... why did the Boomers have to be the generation that stopped smoking and started getting Vaccinated for the flu?

/Not that I don't love my parents and all... but there's a circle of life thing. And them remaining IN the circle of life ensures that nobody my age or younger can afford to have kids...
 
2012-06-17 08:11:06 PM

Wyalt Derp: They should start a Tea Party Youth movement. They could wear brown shirts (the color of tea), maybe with some kind of cool symbol on the sleeve to look trendy.


I honestly think if you proposed this on free republic there would be a surprisingly large number of posters who would think this is a great idea.
 
2012-06-17 08:11:34 PM
Unless you're dressing up like Native Americans and destroying merchandise to protest taxation without representation, you aren't part of any real Tea Party and have no business claiming any such association.
 
2012-06-17 08:13:46 PM
s4.reutersmedia.net

/Dadis, how is babby?

cache.daylife.com

/I have no idea what to make of this but it SCREAMS Photoshop!



dkphotocoop.smugmug.com


4.bp.blogspot.com

One Chinese made T-Shirt at a time

1.bp.blogspot.com

Ouchhh

www.wnd.com

/miss Jackson, I am for real...

www.nashuatelegraph.com

media.salon.com

/no fear ma'am, they are spending Chinese money!
 
2012-06-17 08:14:30 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: If Americans of any age knew what was good for them they'd be standing with us in Occupy.


Most of us prefer to shiat indoors.
 
2012-06-17 08:16:22 PM
Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.
 
2012-06-17 08:17:27 PM
I am a young American, but not a fundamentalist christian...therefore I am a commie socialist who hates the freedoms.

/morans..gosh
 
2012-06-17 08:18:11 PM

MrEricSir: Unless you're dressing up like Native Americans and destroying merchandise to protest taxation without representation, you aren't part of any real Tea Party and have no business claiming any such association.


... and that taxation was to protect the great grand-daddy of multi-national corporations, the East India Company.
 
2012-06-17 08:20:03 PM

RevRaven: A Dark Evil Omen: If Americans of any age knew what was good for them they'd be standing with us in Occupy.

Most of us prefer to shiat indoors.


In a bullet riddled outhouse labeled "Obama Library."
 
2012-06-17 08:21:30 PM
Most young americans aren't that stupid or racist or bigoted.
 
2012-06-17 08:22:49 PM

Oxygen_Thief: I am a young American, but not a fundamentalist christian...therefore I am a commie socialist who hates the freedoms.

/morans..gosh


A christian called you a freedom hating socialist commie?

Nucleus: Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.


Ah. Well, please explain exactly how you would go about that.
 
2012-06-17 08:24:45 PM

Dingfod: Not everybody wants to put Grandma on the ice floe.


I actually have something relevant to this - for ten years, I made jokes about putting my mother on an ice floe when she got old. She thought I was joking, deep down I often felt serious. Actual acquisition of a St. Barnabas ice floe when the time came would be trickier, but.

Nonetheless, out of some mad survival instinct, when she and my father went to finalize a copy of their will, they specifically put in a clause. No ice floes, lest I forfeit my inheritance.

Well, damn.

There's nothing in there about volcano sacrifice, however. I still have options!

/they are teapartiers.
 
2012-06-17 08:24:58 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Oxygen_Thief: I am a young American, but not a fundamentalist christian...therefore I am a commie socialist who hates the freedoms.

/morans..gosh

A christian called you a freedom hating socialist commie?

Nucleus: Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.

Ah. Well, please explain exactly how you would go about that.


I said fundamentalist christian..to be fair.
 
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2012-06-17 08:25:29 PM

St_Francis_P: It's kind of sad and funny to remember back when the Tea Party styled themselves as being "libertarian". They certainly got over that phase in a hurry.


The original founders were pushed out and the Tea Party was usurped by the GOP. Then it all went down hill from there...
 
2012-06-17 08:26:52 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks:
Nucleus: Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.

Ah. Well, please explain exactly how you would go about that.


actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.
 
2012-06-17 08:26:59 PM
it is only fair, the young need to see their taxes hiked to pay for all the tax cuts the boomers voted for themselves over the last 40 years.
 
2012-06-17 08:27:10 PM

St_Francis_P: Confabulat: Young poor minorities in this country aren't Real Americans anyway and probably need to be deported.

"Probably"?


Well, a few of them might be fit and healthy enough to work in labor camps prisons.
 
2012-06-17 08:28:30 PM

Oxygen_Thief: I said fundamentalist christian..to be fair.


Indeed...mea culpa.
 
2012-06-17 08:28:54 PM
Let's have compulsory military service and be done with it. To be honest, it's the only way to keep these endless wars going. You've got to replace the one soldier a day that is committing suicide.

The Tea Party can be recruiters.
 
2012-06-17 08:28:59 PM

kmmontandon: Weaver95: RobertBruce: Their misguided idealism farks with their abilities to do basic math.

actually, if people 'do the math' then they sure as hell won't vote tea party.


Numbers have a liberal bias.


So does reality in general.
 
2012-06-17 08:29:04 PM
markc1.typepad.com

BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?
 
2012-06-17 08:29:10 PM
Maybe the young voters could form the Tea Party into something actually libertarian and not a club for guys with oversized belt buckles who if given the opportunity will corner you and explain for half an hour how Hillary had Vince Foster beamed up by a UFO.
 
2012-06-17 08:30:02 PM

Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks:
Nucleus: Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.

Ah. Well, please explain exactly how you would go about that.

actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.


ahh while I agree with the sentiment it is not that easy. The whole thing on citizens united is that money talks...therefore it is a form of speech...therefore congress "shall make no law" etc etc.

That said I tend to be a Kennedy fan but I hate how this case was framed in the opinion, the worst parts of it were in dicta.
 
2012-06-17 08:31:29 PM
Governments should be more honest about the size of their debts and young voters would be wise to get politicians to pay them off as soon as possible, says economic historian Niall Ferguson in the first of his BBC

Really because back in 2000 when the US was running a budget surplus there was worry about paying of the national debt.



Link
 
2012-06-17 08:32:23 PM

Weaver95: actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.


Firstly, that would not 'dismantle' the SCOTUS as the other poster suggested.

Also, that piece of legislation you mentioned has been deemed legally appropriate by SCOTUS, so they did write laws that are perfectly legal. As with most things with SCOTUS, we want to get rid of them when they don't vote a certain way, and believe they are just and wise when they do vote in favor of something you do like.
 
2012-06-17 08:33:58 PM
What bothers me most about the Tea Party isn't really their stated political views (not to say I agree with all of them of course), it's how they tend to romanticize the idea of a violent overthrow of the government.

Revolutions are bloody and brutal things. Sometime to be engaged in only reluctantly, when all other avenues have been completely sealed shut. If we were to have a full-scale civil war in a country as large and well-armed as the United States, we could easily be looking at millions of casualties. Not to mention economic turmoil lasting for decades after the fact, and a potentially permanent fracturing of the country. If there are any long-term benefits at all, it will probably be over a generation before they begin to outweigh the problems.

May it one day become inevitable? With the extreme polarization we are experiencing that may very well be true. But we should be trying to pull ourselves back from that abyss, not push outsides over.
 
2012-06-17 08:34:12 PM

Gulper Eel: Maybe the young voters could form the Tea Party into something actually libertarian and not a club for guys with oversized belt buckles who if given the opportunity will corner you and explain for half an hour how Hillary had Vince Foster beamed up by a UFO.


That could never happen. Jonah Goldberg has insisted that we're too stupid to vote and should be beaten until we agree with our elders.
 
2012-06-17 08:34:29 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?


Has anyone found a single founding father who knows what today's government and political realities are to make an informed decision about anything not based on 18th century knowledge and philosophy?
 
2012-06-17 08:34:37 PM
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The Teahaddists stand no chance against the Anti-Romney tide!

/these people of pallor will not be ignored!
//Give 'em hell Brad Woodhouse!
 
2012-06-17 08:37:02 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Weaver95: actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.

Firstly, that would not 'dismantle' the SCOTUS as the other poster suggested.

Also, that piece of legislation you mentioned has been deemed legally appropriate by SCOTUS, so they did write laws that are perfectly legal. As with most things with SCOTUS, we want to get rid of them when they don't vote a certain way, and believe they are just and wise when they do vote in favor of something you do like.


oh I don't care about SCOTUS. they'll eventually die off on their own. Congress is the regulatory agency - it's THEIR job to define what a corporation can and cannot do. SCOTUS merely makes up excuses to shoot down their laws.
 
2012-06-17 08:38:03 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Has anyone found a single founding father who knows what today's government and political realities are to make an informed decision about anything not based on 18th century knowledge and philosophy?


Justice Scalia tries a lot.
 
2012-06-17 08:39:42 PM

Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Weaver95: actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.

Firstly, that would not 'dismantle' the SCOTUS as the other poster suggested.

Also, that piece of legislation you mentioned has been deemed legally appropriate by SCOTUS, so they did write laws that are perfectly legal. As with most things with SCOTUS, we want to get rid of them when they don't vote a certain way, and believe they are just and wise when they do vote in favor of something you do like.

oh I don't care about SCOTUS. they'll eventually die off on their own. Congress is the regulatory agency - it's THEIR job to define what a corporation can and cannot do. SCOTUS merely makes up excuses to shoot down their laws.


Nobody likes Congress. There are plenty of good congrescritters, but they act like pre-school children given a six pack of Jolt and a staple gun when in large groups.
 
2012-06-17 08:41:04 PM

Oxygen_Thief: 3_Butt_Cheeks: WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Has anyone found a single founding father who knows what today's government and political realities are to make an informed decision about anything not based on 18th century knowledge and philosophy?

Justice Scalia tries a lot.


I was going Ginsburg, but good lulz.
 
2012-06-17 08:41:37 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks:
Nobody likes Congress. There are plenty of good congrescritters, but they act like pre-school children given a six pack of Jolt and a staple gun when in large groups.


We keep voting out the Republican (and the tea party keeps knocking out Republicans with seniority) we've got a chance.
 
2012-06-17 08:43:09 PM

Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks:
Nobody likes Congress. There are plenty of good congrescritters, but they act like pre-school children given a six pack of Jolt and a staple gun when in large groups.

We keep voting out the Republican (and the tea party keeps knocking out Republicans with seniority) we've got a chance.


I'm sure that is reasonable from your perspective.
 
2012-06-17 08:43:15 PM
Professor Ferguson,

Sorry, I am not joining a racist, anti-intellectual party. This is not "good for me" or anyone else. I believe the BNP also broadly supports austerity measures, so why don't you join them? You first.

Signed,

A Former Student of Yours
 
2012-06-17 08:43:32 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com

dekerivers.files.wordpress.com

/ok....

www.cottonrohrscheib.com
 
2012-06-17 08:44:40 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Has anyone found a single founding father who knows what today's government and political realities are to make an informed decision about anything not based on 18th century knowledge and philosophy?


Well the Tea Party people sure seem to think they would have the support of the founding fathers. Also that 18th century philosophy when it comes to government still works very well. Indeed we're to a good degree governed by it.

Oxygen_Thief: Justice Scalia tries a lot.


Actually he doesn't. Scalia's decisions are born of thinking that's not even as old as he is.
 
2012-06-17 08:45:53 PM
It's funny how austerity measure never involve cuts to defense spending. Wait, funny isn't the word. It's predictable.
 
2012-06-17 08:47:05 PM

relcec: it is only fair, the young need to see their taxes hiked to pay for all the tax cuts the boomers republicans voted for themselves over the last 40 years.


please be accurate.
 
2012-06-17 08:49:13 PM
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Yup, Fox News, firin' its guns
and ringin its bells to warn the British!

Yoooouuuuuuuu betcha!

::thoroughly obnoxious wink::


/off in the distance:
HAR HAR HAR HAR
HAR HAR HAR HAR
HAR HAR HAR HAR
HAR HAR HAR HAR
 
2012-06-17 08:49:26 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks:
Nobody likes Congress. There are plenty of good congrescritters, but they act like pre-school children given a six pack of Jolt and a staple gun when in large groups.

We keep voting out the Republican (and the tea party keeps knocking out Republicans with seniority) we've got a chance.

I'm sure that is reasonable from your perspective.


I, for one, fully support Tea party efforts to weaken and destroy the GOP from within. Keep going after incumbents and making 'em lose primary races! that's just amazingly awesome!
 
2012-06-17 08:50:04 PM

JAYoung: MrEricSir: Unless you're dressing up like Native Americans and destroying merchandise to protest taxation without representation, you aren't part of any real Tea Party and have no business claiming any such association.

... and that taxation was to protect the great grand-daddy of multi-national corporations, the East India Company.


The taxation was because someone had to pay for the French Indian war, which the colonist wanted, but not England.
 
2012-06-17 08:50:58 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Weaver95: actually, that's the easiest part - just have Congress start writing laws that say 'corporations are not people' and nailing down the limits, rights and privileges of corporations. the GOP will scream bloody murder, of course....but meh.

Firstly, that would not 'dismantle' the SCOTUS as the other poster suggested.

Also, that piece of legislation you mentioned has been deemed legally appropriate by SCOTUS, so they did write laws that are perfectly legal. As with most things with SCOTUS, we want to get rid of them when they don't vote a certain way, and believe they are just and wise when they do vote in favor of something you do like.

oh I don't care about SCOTUS. they'll eventually die off on their own. Congress is the regulatory agency - it's THEIR job to define what a corporation can and cannot do. SCOTUS merely makes up excuses to shoot down their laws.

Nobody likes Congress. There are plenty of good congrescritters, but they act like pre-school children given a six pack of Jolt and a staple gun when in large groups.


You really only dislike them if they have (d) next to their name. farking lying Fark Independents(tm).
 
2012-06-17 08:51:02 PM
Oh, man, fark Niall Ferguson. I read one of his 'history' books once, and it was amazing. It started out as straight history, but the closer to today it got, the derpier it got. By the time it got around to covering living right-wing tools, you could practically see their cum dribbling down his chin.

The Beeb and PBS have both decided that airing his oh-so-sensible-sounding clap-trap is somehow a good idea. Keeps the mouth-breathers happy, I guess. Shame on them both.
 
2012-06-17 08:51:03 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Has anyone found a single founding father who knows what today's government and political realities are to make an informed decision about anything not based on 18th century knowledge and philosophy?


Benjamin Franklin

He had a habit of thinking about things in a decidedly 20th century point of view. The man invented the lightning rod, the concept of a fire department, and insurance. He devised that a postal system would be required to interconnect all of the disparate parts of our country, and had that concept enshrined in the responsibilities of congress. He urged Jefferson to use the term "We hold these truths to be self evident", instead of "as given by God" in the Declaration of independence. He was "blogging" before we had the concept of blogs.

And one of these days, I expect to run into his ass at a Cafe after he explains that he also invented the Time Machine.
 
2012-06-17 08:51:12 PM

WhyteRaven74: [markc1.typepad.com image 580x377]

BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?


Does Benedict Arnold count as a Founding Father?
 
2012-06-17 08:53:08 PM
So i guess we've run out of true blue Americans to feed us this crap that now we have to find Brits to lecture us on this tired conservative BS.
 
2012-06-17 08:53:42 PM

gimmegimme: WhyteRaven74: [markc1.typepad.com image 580x377]

BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Does Benedict Arnold count as a Founding Father?


Given teabagger desire for an hereditary monarchy, I'm sure they'll get to rehabilitating him as soon as they're done having Reagan declared an Official State God, like Augustus.
 
2012-06-17 08:53:49 PM

gimmegimme: Does Benedict Arnold count as a Founding Father?


Niiiiice :)
 
2012-06-17 08:53:53 PM

Darth_Lukecash: JAYoung: MrEricSir: Unless you're dressing up like Native Americans and destroying merchandise to protest taxation without representation, you aren't part of any real Tea Party and have no business claiming any such association.

... and that taxation was to protect the great grand-daddy of multi-national corporations, the East India Company.

The taxation was because someone had to pay for the French Indian war, which the colonist wanted, but not England.


Wasn't the French and Indian war just the North American portion of the seven years war?
 
2012-06-17 08:55:16 PM
The Tea Party represents my interests about as well as Darkseid does.
 
2012-06-17 08:55:44 PM

gimmegimme: WhyteRaven74: [markc1.typepad.com image 580x377]

BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Does Benedict Arnold count as a Founding Father?


Very much so. Sure, he sold us out in the end. But without him, it was doubtful we would have won the Battle of Saratoga. Without that victory at Saratoga, we wouldn't have been able to garner support from the French. The French Navy kept the British from either reinforcing or evacuating Yorktown, leading to the surrender of Cornwallis and the end to the Revolutionary War.

/Fun fact, "West Point" was originally going to be named "Fort Arnold."
 
2012-06-17 09:00:14 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: the surrender of Cornwallis


In 1772 Cornwallis, who at that point had never been to the colonies, gave a speech in Parliament that if how the colonies were being handled didn't change and fast there would be big problems down the road. Funny how history works out.
 
2012-06-17 09:03:17 PM
Really? The Tea Party? The same people who voted to try to stop the government from paying their debts and wanted absolutely no revenue increases in any form? Those are the politicians who will "pay them off as soon as possible"?
 
2012-06-17 09:06:48 PM

WhyteRaven74: Evil Twin Skippy: the surrender of Cornwallis

In 1772 Cornwallis, who at that point had never been to the colonies, gave a speech in Parliament that if how the colonies were being handled didn't change and fast there would be big problems down the road. Funny how history works out.


My understanding that he even gave pro-colonial speeches in parliament. I can't remember were I saw that.
 
2012-06-17 09:08:45 PM
Just prior apparently.
 
2012-06-17 09:10:11 PM
The fact that anyone could be so stupid to desire higher taxes is beyond comprehension. If you want a level plying field then you want less regulation. Opportunity is the problem not wealth redistribution.
 
2012-06-17 09:11:16 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?


Probably not, but I absolutely promise you they wouldn't support the big government social programs that liberal politicians use to keep people dependent on government.

Precisely because they know it keeps people dependent on government.

That's what makes this effort by liberals to rename themselves "progressives", because progress is somehow tied to going back to total government control of everything... Which was precisely the idea this country was founded against... Government control is not progress. Freedom from government is progress.
 
2012-06-17 09:14:11 PM

randomjsa: WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Probably not, but I absolutely promise you they wouldn't support the big government social programs that liberal politicians use to keep people dependent on government.

Precisely because they know it keeps people dependent on government.

That's what makes this effort by liberals to rename themselves "progressives", because progress is somehow tied to going back to total government control of everything... Which was precisely the idea this country was founded against... Government control is not progress. Freedom from government is progress.


why is that only the people who use the word progressive or secular-humanist are righty right Mcrightsts, who do not understand how government works.
 
2012-06-17 09:17:09 PM

bigsteve3OOO: The fact that anyone could be so stupid to desire higher taxes is beyond comprehension. If you want a level plying field then you want less regulation. Opportunity is the problem not wealth redistribution.


It's called being realistic. The various programs and projects the U.S. is involved in, including the wars, cost more than the government is taking in through tax revenues.

Cutting taxes and then deciding to start a war in Iraq made absolutely no sense. That was like someone quitting their job, taking a job that paid less, and then deciding to buy a more expensive house.
 
2012-06-17 09:18:10 PM

bigsteve3OOO: The fact that anyone could be so stupid to desire higher taxes is beyond comprehension. If you want a level plying field then you want less regulation. Opportunity is the problem not wealth redistribution.


If stupid was people this post would be China.
 
2012-06-17 09:20:06 PM

randomjsa: WhyteRaven74: BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Probably not, but I absolutely promise you they wouldn't support the big government social programs that liberal politicians use to keep people dependent on government.

Precisely because they know it keeps people dependent on government.

That's what makes this effort by liberals to rename themselves "progressives", because progress is somehow tied to going back to total government control of everything... Which was precisely the idea this country was founded against... Government control is not progress. Freedom from government is progress.


Care to explain why the Whisky Rebellion was quashed by Washington himself, then?

I won't hold my breath.
 
2012-06-17 09:24:02 PM

Oxygen_Thief: My understanding that he even gave pro-colonial speeches in parliament. I can't remember were I saw that.


He did. And it's shown up in any number of history books, a couple Cracked lists, a few tv programs about the American Revolution etc. Even a college level US History survey course will mention it most likely.
 
2012-06-17 09:30:11 PM

bigsteve3OOO: The fact that anyone could be so stupid to desire higher taxes is beyond comprehension. If you want a level plying field then you want less regulation. Opportunity is the problem not wealth redistribution.


I'll put it to you this way. You have two potential suppliers for services.

One supplier has a monopoly and ubiquitously supplies to all, and charges according to what they can pay. The level of service provided and fees charged are kept in check by the fact that the stakeholder get to vote their representatives in or out of management, and they also control who is the CEO.

The other supplier has a monopoly. But they have no mandate to supply to all. In fact, they only provide services where they can economically derive the most benefit. Their fees are kept in check by virtue of if they charge too much people learn to live without. Management answers only to people who stand to profit from their operations.

And for the record, no. There is no free market in any industry for which there is a natural monopoly. Utilities, Health Care, Energy. All of these economies are zero sum games where the physics of nature and logistics dictate that there can be only one. No "startup" can afford to build a delivery network from scratch. Nobody can bootstrap a hospital from a neighbor's borrowed shed. The next great source of power isn't going to come from a lab in New Jersey. All of these things work on macroscopic economies of scale.

There is no natural transition from a lemonade stand to a fortune 500 company. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something. And it sure ain't lemonade.
 
2012-06-17 09:32:29 PM

stoli n coke: bigsteve3OOO: The fact that anyone could be so stupid to desire higher taxes is beyond comprehension. If you want a level plying field then you want less regulation. Opportunity is the problem not wealth redistribution.

It's called being realistic. The various programs and projects the U.S. is involved in, including the wars, cost more than the government is taking in through tax revenues.

Cutting taxes and then deciding to start a war in Iraq made absolutely no sense. That was like someone quitting their job, taking a job that paid less, and then deciding to buy a more expensive house.


While telling his kids (as he polished the new BMW) that he couldn't possibly help them with this month's tuition because they needed to pay as they go. Oh... and co-sign on the loan for this sweet, sweet ride.
 
2012-06-17 09:36:24 PM
CTRL+F: "defense"

No matches found.

Hmm...unless you guys are willing to put defense on the table, why should I take any of these clowns (Tea Party) seriously?
 
2012-06-17 09:39:21 PM

Mrtraveler01: CTRL+F: "defense"

No matches found.

Hmm...unless you guys are willing to put defense on the table, why should I take any of these clowns (Tea Party) seriously?


You know the Democrats are also not serious about defense cuts. Singling out the "tea party" which isn't actually a political party at all doesn't focus on the problem that neither major party will run nationally on "cutting defense".
 
2012-06-17 09:45:12 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Mrtraveler01: CTRL+F: "defense"

No matches found.

Hmm...unless you guys are willing to put defense on the table, why should I take any of these clowns (Tea Party) seriously?

You know the Democrats are also not serious about defense cuts. Singling out the "tea party" which isn't actually a political party at all doesn't focus on the problem that neither major party will run nationally on "cutting defense".


The Tea Party is a political party. They are Republicans who had to figure out a way to dust off the old "tax and spend Democrat" attack without acknowledging that they cheerled the enormous financial clusterfarkery of the last administration. It was GOP rebranding and nothing more.

November of 2008 saw a lot of born again "fiscal conservatives."
 
2012-06-17 09:46:19 PM

stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Mrtraveler01: CTRL+F: "defense"

No matches found.

Hmm...unless you guys are willing to put defense on the table, why should I take any of these clowns (Tea Party) seriously?

You know the Democrats are also not serious about defense cuts. Singling out the "tea party" which isn't actually a political party at all doesn't focus on the problem that neither major party will run nationally on "cutting defense".

The Tea Party is a political party. They are Republicans who had to figure out a way to dust off the old "tax and spend Democrat" attack without acknowledging that they cheerled the enormous financial clusterfarkery of the last administration. It was GOP rebranding and nothing more.

November of 2008 saw a lot of born again "fiscal conservatives."


Infected with Fundies.
 
2012-06-17 09:48:16 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: You know the Democrats are also not serious about defense cuts. Singling out the "tea party" which isn't actually a political party at all doesn't focus on the problem that neither major party will run nationally on "cutting defense".


Oh I know, I have no argument here concerning that.

But they will spend hours biatching about how much Medicare and Medicaid are draining our government but fight tooth and nail to defend the DoD spending even though it's a large chunk of our budget as well.

That's why I can never take the Tea Party seriously when they talk about cutting spending. Because what they really mean is that they don't want to spend money just on the things they don't want to.

I'd be more than willing to actually take them seriously if they start talking about cutting defense like they want to cut Medicare/Medicaid.
 
2012-06-17 09:53:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: 3_Butt_Cheeks: You know the Democrats are also not serious about defense cuts. Singling out the "tea party" which isn't actually a political party at all doesn't focus on the problem that neither major party will run nationally on "cutting defense".

Oh I know, I have no argument here concerning that.

But they will spend hours biatching about how much Medicare and Medicaid are draining our government but fight tooth and nail to defend the DoD spending even though it's a large chunk of our budget as well.

That's why I can never take the Tea Party seriously when they talk about cutting spending. Because what they really mean is that they don't want to spend money just on the things they don't want to.

I'd be more than willing to actually take them seriously if they start talking about cutting defense like they want to cut Medicare/Medicaid.


Exactly besides if the Tea party was serious they would move to cut the entiltlment programs that fund their mostly old, white and dying off electorate. Which cost far more to subsidize then are current defense budget..which will shrink it has too anyway.
 
2012-06-17 09:58:42 PM

stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.


No, they aren't. They are a political movement.



Mrtraveler01: But they will spend hours biatching about how much Medicare and Medicaid are draining our government but fight tooth and nail to defend the DoD spending even though it's a large chunk of our budget as well.


Democrats biatch and moan about paying for all the things they want, and also ignore Defense money.

Mrtraveler01: That's why I can never take the Tea Party seriously when they talk about cutting spending. Because what they really mean is that they don't want to spend money just on the things they don't want to.


Nobody does. GOP don't want a shiat ton of the left's 'social policies' either. The Democrats don't like the GOP bills, and can't make a budget. This is not something the OWS morons or Tea people are responsible for. We point and laugh at them, but they really aren't what's wrong.

Mrtraveler01: I'd be more than willing to actually take them seriously if they start talking about cutting defense like they want to cut Medicare/Medicaid.


I don't take Congress seriously. Nothing gets done for the most part, and when it DOES get done, it seems to get done half-assed or just totally farking wrong.
 
2012-06-17 10:09:33 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.


Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.
 
2012-06-17 10:14:58 PM

stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.


Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.
 
2012-06-17 10:16:55 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.

Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.


They're not a political party. They're just a pep rally and a fan club for the Republicans.

Better now?
 
2012-06-17 10:18:28 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Oxygen_Thief: I am a young American, but not a fundamentalist christian...therefore I am a commie socialist who hates the freedoms.

/morans..gosh

A christian called you a freedom hating socialist commie?

Nucleus: Corporations are NOT people. The Roberts court must be dismantled.

Ah. Well, please explain exactly how you would go about that.


There's three little Torx fasteners under the rim of the casing.
 
2012-06-17 10:19:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.

Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.

They're not a political party. They're just a pep rally and a fan club for the Republicans.

Better now?


There are self identified "Tea Party" Republicans sitting in office some of whom ousted other Republicans to get elected. It's definitely a political party. It's just overlaps to a great degree with "normal" Republicans.
 
2012-06-17 10:22:29 PM

Mrtraveler01: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.

Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.

They're not a political party. They're just a pep rally and a fan club for the Republicans.

Better now?


Better before really, not like it was an issue. You felt the need to join in? I'm sure you just as easily could have corrected him.
 
2012-06-17 10:23:42 PM
The intellectual wattage is blinding.

www.idiotsholdingsigns.com

www.idiotsholdingsigns.com

www.idiotsholdingsigns.com

www.idiotsholdingsigns.com
 
2012-06-17 10:29:55 PM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Mrtraveler01: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.

Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.

They're not a political party. They're just a pep rally and a fan club for the Republicans.

Better now?

Better before really, not like it was an issue. You felt the need to join in? I'm sure you just as easily could have corrected him.


I'm sorry then. What is the correct answer then?
 
2012-06-17 10:33:02 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: If Americans of any age knew what was good for them they'd be standing with us in Occupy. fark the Tea Party.


Most people have Shiat To Do so they can you know pay bills.

That said I work for not that much pay to try to make things better and the next time a douchebag AARP member tells me I am totally wrong and stupid because I'm under 30 I might snap. Especially since this usually arises about issues where I've done a TON of research, unbiased sources and from both sides, am comfortable with working my ass off for a solution and they, well, are usually talking out of their ass.

I've had some great agree to disagree dialogues with some older folks, but not a single one of those decent people labeled themselves as a Tea Bagger. I'd say the most common label they self apply is just "frustrated", which I understand.
 
2012-06-17 10:35:39 PM

Mrtraveler01: I'm sorry then. What is the correct answer then?


www.hoax-slayer.com

I can tell you what it's not.
 
2012-06-17 10:42:53 PM
Subby is apparently using the word "good" referencing an is-ought ordering basis with which I'm... probably familiar, but currently consider incoherent.

As for the content of TFA, I suspect there's an error in current economic theory, about what the actual value is for a promise to repay a debt, propagated from a pretty foundational level, and probably also tied to the time-value-of-money concept... which renders TFA based in bullshiat.

2.bp.blogspot.com


However, my opinion together with $5 US can get you a img.fark.net subscription.
 
2012-06-17 11:10:58 PM

TheOmni: If young white rich Americans knew what was good for them (and only them), they would all be in the Tea Party.


Well those without a conscience anyway. Not all wealthy people are sociopaths.
 
2012-06-17 11:12:58 PM

NewportBarGuy: Since when do young Americans know any f*cking thing at all?


Since when do tea baggers know any farking thing at all. It's the party of the loud and the ignorant.
 
2012-06-17 11:24:11 PM

kg2095: Since when do tea baggers know any farking thing at all. It's the party of the loud and the ignorant.


Yes, but they yell louder and that means they love America more and Jesus can hear them.
 
2012-06-17 11:36:15 PM

Serious Black: Chimperror2: Obvious tag on vacation?

If young people knew what was best for them, they wouldn't be young people.

Should young people have the socialism beaten out of them too?


No, just the stupidity. But it's the same the thing.
 
2012-06-17 11:40:41 PM

NewportBarGuy: kg2095: Since when do tea baggers know any farking thing at all. It's the party of the loud and the ignorant.

Yes, but they yell louder and that means they love America more and Jesus can hear them.


It must suck for Jesus. Because of the holes, he can't even cover his ears and have it do any good.
 
2012-06-17 11:41:13 PM
I agree! It'd probably be easier to destroy from within.
 
2012-06-17 11:56:00 PM

Gato Blanco: The day you see my name on a ticket that endorses a Republican candidate is the day I'm literally dead and those motherfarkers are committing voter fraud.


↑↑↑↑↑
THIS
 
2012-06-18 12:03:58 AM

Chimperror2: Serious Black: Chimperror2: Obvious tag on vacation?

If young people knew what was best for them, they wouldn't be young people.

Should young people have the socialism beaten out of them too?

No, just the stupidity. But it's the same the thing.


I trust that the Republican Beating Commission will send one of their assault panels to my house soon?
 
2012-06-18 12:20:38 AM

randomjsa: That's what makes this effort by liberals to rename themselves "progressives", because progress is somehow tied to going back to total government control of everything...


"total government control of everything" ??? When did this happen?

Oh, right, I forgot about George II's universal health care plan that nearly bankrupted the Royal Chancellor.

Where do you get this stuff?
 
2012-06-18 12:22:24 AM

NFA: St_Francis_P: It's kind of sad and funny to remember back when the Tea Party styled themselves as being "libertarian". They certainly got over that phase in a hurry.

The original founders were pushed out and the Tea Party was usurped by the GOP. Then it all went down hill from there...


Bullshiat. It started at the bottom of the hill and immediately started digging a latrine.

The original founders of the Tea Party were inspired by some astroturf motherfarker who was incensed that some of the economic bailout might actually reach the middle class, i.e. the people who were hurt at the "oh shiat where do we live now" level by Wall Street. It's been ignorant, retarded, and yes, blatantly racist pond scum, led by the nose by disingenuous GOP corporate whores, from start to finish. The most generous way I can describe it is as a successful internal GOP coup by Grover Norquist and people like him.
 
2012-06-18 12:39:00 AM

3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: 3_Butt_Cheeks: stoli n coke: The Tea Party is a political party.

No, they aren't. They are a political movement.

Who just happen to agree with any ideas Republican congresscritters come up with and vote exclusively Republican.

Keep telling yourself they're not just rebranded Republicans. Maybe you'll actually start believing that yourself.

Your claim of them being a political party was wrong. Don't get all upset about it.


Dude, a lot of people spent a lot of money to reshape the brand identity perception of the Republican Party in a number of demographic groups. You have to respect the Tea Party. Just like you have to respect Coca-Cola for taking the New Coke debacle and turning it into Classic Coke.
 
2012-06-18 12:44:56 AM

ghare: gimmegimme: WhyteRaven74: [markc1.typepad.com image 580x377]

BTW has anyone found a single founding father who would support the Tea Party?

Does Benedict Arnold count as a Founding Father?

Given teabagger desire for an hereditary monarchy, I'm sure they'll get to rehabilitating him as soon as they're done having Reagan declared an Official State God, like Augustus.


I've heard of the "Imperial Presidency", but that's going too far :-)
 
2012-06-18 12:56:04 AM

Serious Black: Why the hell would I support a platform that guarantees no cuts for any of the baby boomers but massive cuts for everyone younger than them? The rest of my cohort and I sure as fark didn't cause any of the problems that brought the country to its knees, so why should we be the only people who pay for all of the solutions?


Hell, let's give the elder folks MOAR money!
 
2012-06-18 01:11:55 AM
The only kind of tea party I would join:

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-06-18 01:17:56 AM
Actually, I think it'd be more probable that they'd all be in Occupy.

...and now that I think of it, that's one of the big reasons Occupy was ridiculed in the first place.
 
2012-06-18 01:23:12 AM
Nah. Young Americans are too lazy to be Teabaggers.

/and blushing at all the Afro Sheeners
 
2012-06-18 02:17:55 AM
If young people knew what was good for them they would be idiots? Um, ok...
 
2012-06-18 02:26:24 AM

Strix occidentalis: The only kind of tea party I would join:

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


looks lovely
 
2012-06-18 03:03:05 AM
Imagine, we decided to give up and split into two nations:

Corporate Jesusland - The 1%, Conservatives, Christian Fundamentalists, Randians

The Free People Of America - Libertarians, Liberals, all non-white former Americans

Q: Who would be around in 100 years?

A: Corporate Jesusland. They would quickly consume all their resources, blame everyone else, and use their military to conquer TFPOA and enslave its inhabitants in Jesus's name.
 
2012-06-18 03:59:54 AM
"Austerity" sounds an awful lot like cutting down on public infrastructure, public healthcare, and public education. In short, choking off the future of the nation. A government should instead focus on collecting taxes, raising them if necessary, and investing in the future.
 
2012-06-18 04:20:03 AM
HaHaHaHaHaHa times 3 billion.
 
2012-06-18 06:20:29 AM
The heart of the matter is the way public debt allows the current generation of voters to live at the expense of those as yet too young to vote or as yet unborn.

In other words, The Tytler cycle.
 
2012-06-18 06:37:36 AM

lunogled: What was Niall Ferguson writing about when Bush and Blair were in power?
Oh, yeah, I remember... war in Iraq is great, and the British empire was hunky dory.


Niall Ferguson is one of those people, if I want a quick "rule of thumb" of whether something is good or bad, I find out his view and take the opposite stance. It isn't 100%, but near enough to be useful.
 
2012-06-18 06:37:36 AM

Gato Blanco: As the child of a Hispanic, single-mother immigrant, I have seen people dismiss her, boss her around, and treat her cruelly simply because of her "funny accent" and her tanned skin. I have also seen the looks they give her when it becomes revealed that she was a single mother who immigrated to the USA.

As an American in debt due to college expenses, I know what the consequences of increasingly right-wing policies in the past few decades have done to this country, and do my best to responsibly pay off that loan. As an educated individual, I have seen the GOP dismiss my concerns for the others entering this cycle as greedy, communist, and evil.

As an unmarried female whose life was actually saved by cheap and affordable contraceptives, I have observed the GOP criminalize me and other women as people that want a free ride, people that have no morals, and people who are Satanic.

As someone who has a lesbian family member who means so much to me, and I wish one day to be her bridesmaid as she walks down the aisle with her wife, I have seen the state of North Carolina tear her dream to pieces via the vile lies of "family values" and religion that is supposed to be separated from government to the 1st farkin' Amendment.

The day you see my name on a ticket that endorses a Republican candidate is the day I'm literally dead and those motherfarkers are committing voter fraud. With everything that I have seen in my lifetime, it'll be a cold day in hell that I vote Republican. They should be terrified, because unfortunately I'm not the only young voter that has been affected by this-- and their voter base is dying of old age.


Actually, the student loan bubble caused by the ever-present and near unlimited availability of college loans to anyone and everyone with a pulse has raised tuition at a rate 2-4x inflation and the cost of other goods with no explanation from the statists as to why. With advancements in technology, whatever school you go to should require less staff per student than it did 20 years ago and should be able to provide a better education.

The right-wing didn't force you into a mountain of debt. You made a conscious choice to take on the debt and now your head is on a swivel looking for some politician who will promise to tax some 1%er so you can get what you think is yours.

And contraceptives? Medicaid offers them. If you're poor, take them. if you can afford it, you should pay it like the rest of us.
 
2012-06-18 07:13:09 AM
says economic historian Niall Ferguson

nick.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-06-18 07:36:06 AM
It scares the hell out of me that a British person is advocating a far-right wing, xenophobic, hyper-jingoistic, "We're right and everybody else is evil" upstart party that's angling to gain total control after a massive economic crash. For a historian, he seems to have no idea what a history book is.
 
2012-06-18 08:09:59 AM
cosmiquemuffin:
www.idiotsholdingsigns.com

Why did that horrible woman use an anus as her 'o' in "Don't"?

And why did she end a quote she didn't start?

/ and whar did she get pudding? WHAR?
 
2012-06-18 08:11:49 AM

spongeboob: Governments should be more honest about the size of their debts and young voters would be wise to get politicians to pay them off as soon as possible, says economic historian Niall Ferguson in the first of his BBC

Really because back in 2000 when the US was running a budget surplus there was worry about paying of the national debt.



Link


Woa, that was a good read.
 
2012-06-18 08:42:07 AM
don't drink the tea.
 
2012-06-18 09:14:32 AM
Niall Ferguson, proof that a British accent will fool some Americans into believing you're smart.
 
2012-06-18 10:42:53 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Hear that, Young Americans?
The Tea Party thinks you're stupid.


No they don't engage in that activity, that is the problem.
 
2012-06-18 11:11:00 AM
let's not discuss the fiscal time-bomb that is the debt, let us use this opportunity do dust off our tea-bagger outrage a la 2010.
 
2012-06-18 11:15:21 AM
Those "welfare schemes" aren't the reason why our country is in the hole. Clinton definitively proved it in the 90's. If we could get the reckless spending of the Republicans under control by putting an end to their unfunded tax cuts, corporate giveaways, and useless pork projects forced on the Pentagon we'd be doing a hell of a lot better than we are now.

The Dems aren't completely in the clear on the issue either but its been under the watch of the Repubs that has seen the largest jumps in debt and deficit. Right now here in Kansas new Governor Brownback was elected to curb government spending. But for all that hollering about the deficit, Brownback is now poised to absolutely explode the deficit wide open by passing a massive tax cut to businesses. The annual deficit will grow to over $2.5 BILLION a year. Current total debt is $28 billion. His tax cut alone will grow the state debt by nearly 9% every year.

So massive tax breaks for the wealthy. But they are attempting to offset them...with tax increases for everyone else. Sales tax is going up and a lot of tax credits people get are being cut. Namely the state's earned income credit. Keep in mind that the hole in the budge I mentioned before is projected after these budget increases on the backs of the working man are taken into consideration.

So they're raising our deficit, raising our debt, and for most of us raising our taxes. Meanwhile our schools, state jobs, environmental programs, etc. are being defended.

Under Republicans the message is always clear: we pay more for less.
 
2012-06-18 11:54:12 AM

Splinshints: cosmiquemuffin:


Why did that horrible woman use an anus as her 'o' in "Don't"?

And why did she end a quote she didn't start?

/ and whar did she get pudding? WHAR?


If you look closely, it says 'we the people' with the paraphrase mark on both sides.

/you just made me defend a teabagger
 
2012-06-18 12:11:31 PM

Vodka Zombie: Because racism, anti-intellectualism, and xenophobia is JUST what a growing child needs.

/fark off, teabagging trash. Even kids are too smart for your little cult.


Came here to say this. To my generation, the Tea Party is disgusting, because we honestly believe all people are equal.

Hmm, sounds like that whole 'one nation under God' bit...now where could we have heard that from...must've been those damn librul gay elites.
 
2012-06-18 12:28:10 PM

Splinshints: Why did that horrible woman use an anus as her 'o' in "Don't"?


Well, that ropey length of poop that squiggles down the side had to come from somewhere.

/Yes, I know it's supposed to be a snake.
//Doesn't look like any snake that I've ever seen.
 
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