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2012-06-17 04:14:09 PM
good. now he can go back on his crusade to put easy-turf on every lawn in san diego
 
2012-06-17 04:15:56 PM
Who will the Chargers get to sit on the bench late in playoff games now?
 
2012-06-17 04:18:54 PM
bostonbrat.net
 
2012-06-17 04:22:59 PM
For some reason, this makes me feel old ...
 
2012-06-17 04:24:42 PM
So basically him and Randy Moss will be headlining the HoF class in 2017. Not bad given some of the 'tweeners and make-ups they've been doing the past few years.
 
2012-06-17 04:24:51 PM
For a second, I thought Junior died again.

/Props to the second-best LT in NFL history!
 
2012-06-17 04:25:51 PM
One day contracts are a waste of time. Just enter the Hall as a Charger.
 
2012-06-17 04:27:41 PM

Person Of Interest: One day contracts are a waste of time. Just enter the Hall as a Charger.


You don't "enter" as anything as with Cooperstown. If that were the case, Marcus Allen would be a Chief ten times over before he thought of himself as a Raider.
 
2012-06-17 04:27:44 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: So basically him and Randy Moss will be headlining the HoF class in 2017.


LDT, Moss, Brian Dawkins... that's a solid core.
 
2012-06-17 04:28:26 PM
He had to retire because he ran out of leg calfs to tattoo his next team logo on.
 
2012-06-17 04:29:33 PM

HawgWild: For some reason, this makes me feel old ...


This, exactly.
 
2012-06-17 04:31:17 PM

Randyman: HawgWild: For some reason, this makes me feel old ...

This, exactly.


me too. my first year in fantasy football was his rookie season. I got him with the 3rd pick and he single-handedly won me 2 straight league victories. doesnt really seem that long ago. damn.
 
2012-06-17 04:41:14 PM
Read the headline and thought another had died.

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2012-06-17 04:45:05 PM

Randyman: HawgWild: For some reason, this makes me feel old ...

This, exactly.


Me too. He's one of the few players I've followed from college all the way through the NFL. He was at TCU about the same time I was in college & entered the "professional work force" about the same time I did, too. I know there's a lot of criticism pointed at him, but I always really enjoyed watching him play. I'd say he had a good career.
 
2012-06-17 04:46:22 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Cooperstown


It's Canton.
 
2012-06-17 04:47:03 PM
Been watching him since his TCU days, and like everyone else it's going to be weird to see all these 00s players retire.
 
2012-06-17 04:49:54 PM
Not a San Diego fan, but I have his jersey. It was fun to watch.
 
2012-06-17 04:50:16 PM

gtfan92: Ken VeryBigLiar: Cooperstown

It's Canton.


"as with Cooperstown"- as in when you go into the Baseball Hall of Fame you have a cap on your placard. In Canton, it's just a bust, no team affiliation.

/Reading Comprehension
//It's a great thing
 
2012-06-17 04:50:46 PM

Gonz: Ken VeryBigLiar: So basically him and Randy Moss will be headlining the HoF class in 2017.

LDT, Moss, Brian Dawkins... that's a solid core.


Moss isn't retired, so he won't be going into the Hall in 2017.
 
2012-06-17 04:53:07 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: Gonz: Ken VeryBigLiar: So basically him and Randy Moss will be headlining the HoF class in 2017.

LDT, Moss, Brian Dawkins... that's a solid core.

Moss isn't retired, so he won't be going into the Hall in 2017.


That would require him to make the 49ers squad; with his contract if Williams comes on and Manningham and Crabtree aren't total turds in camp he could very well be the odd man out. Even if he is "impressing" them, it would be really easy just to can him in week 7 when he biatches about not getting any throws.
 
2012-06-17 04:58:53 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: AdmirableSnackbar: Gonz: Ken VeryBigLiar: So basically him and Randy Moss will be headlining the HoF class in 2017.

LDT, Moss, Brian Dawkins... that's a solid core.

Moss isn't retired, so he won't be going into the Hall in 2017.

That would require him to make the 49ers squad; with his contract if Williams comes on and Manningham and Crabtree aren't total turds in camp he could very well be the odd man out. Even if he is "impressing" them, it would be really easy just to can him in week 7 when he biatches about not getting any throws.


He would still have to formally retire, and by that date I'm pretty sure he'd be ineligible in 2017. He's not going in that year.
 
2012-06-17 05:01:13 PM

gtfan92: Ken VeryBigLiar: Cooperstown

It's Canton.


The crappy one?
 
2012-06-17 05:17:41 PM
Looks like the Double EntenDres have their first-round pick ready.
 
2012-06-17 05:20:41 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: He would still have to formally retire, and by that date I'm pretty sure he'd be ineligible in 2017. He's not going in that year


Would it surprise anyone if he gets dropped in the last round of cuts and has a press conference where he does the whole "I can't hack it anymore so I'm outta here" bit? Which would put his last game played in the 2011-12 season thus putting him eligible in 2016.
 
2012-06-17 05:21:15 PM
Well, that sucks... :-(
 
2012-06-17 05:38:53 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: AdmirableSnackbar: He would still have to formally retire, and by that date I'm pretty sure he'd be ineligible in 2017. He's not going in that year

Would it surprise anyone if he gets dropped in the last round of cuts and has a press conference where he does the whole "I can't hack it anymore so I'm outta here" bit? Which would put his last game played in the 2011-12 season thus putting him eligible in 2016.


Actually, yes that would surprise me. The 49ers have no other deep threats, and if Moss is running as well as his teammates are saying the team will be depending on him to fill that void. It makes no sense for them to cut him, and if he can run as reported then someone else will sign him. It's not like he's T.O.
 
2012-06-17 05:48:23 PM
FTFA: LaDainian Tomlinson's brilliant NFL career will officially end when he ceremoniously rejoins the San Diego Chargers for a day.

Pretty sure they mean "ceremonially"

/Pet peeve
 
2012-06-17 06:04:50 PM

HawgWild: For some reason, this makes me feel old ...


Again, THIS. I remember watching him at TCU. Bloody hell I'm old.
 
2012-06-17 06:11:16 PM

animesucks: good. now he can go back on his crusade to put easy-turf on every lawn in san diego


At the end of the day, he can relax in his Calderas Spa.
 
2012-06-17 06:25:01 PM
Consistently won more fantasty football leagues over a 5-6 year period than any other player should be a Hall of Fame accolade to consider.

Thanks, LDT.
 
2012-06-17 06:47:40 PM
One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.
 
2012-06-17 06:49:55 PM

PunchDrunkPanda: Consistently won more fantasty football leagues over a 5-6 year period than any other player should be a Hall of Fame accolade to consider.

Thanks, LDT.


Unanimous first ballot shoe in for the Dungeons and Deagons football hall of nerds
 
2012-06-17 06:58:30 PM

Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.


And it's been said for me, props to you good sir
 
2012-06-17 07:13:38 PM
He started playing for the Chargers right about when I moved there, and got me to watch football again. (Go fark yourself, Ralph Wilson.) I'm glad that AJ Smith is willing to do this, it'd be a terrible PR move not to.
 
2012-06-17 08:49:57 PM

Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.


What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.

The Smails Kid: Who will the Chargers get to sit on the bench late in playoff games now?


Rivers may be a man among children for playing with torn knee ligaments, but a jump cut running back just can't no matter who he is
 
2012-06-17 09:33:03 PM

davidphogan: He started playing for the Chargers right about when I moved there, and got me to watch football again. (Go fark yourself, Ralph Wilson.) I'm glad that AJ Smith is willing to do this, it'd be a terrible PR move not to.


It's the first smart personnel move Smith's made in about five years.

bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.

The Smails Kid: Who will the Chargers get to sit on the bench late in playoff games now?

Rivers may be a man among children for playing with torn knee ligaments, but a jump cut running back just can't no matter who he is


Yeah, I don't get idiots that knock on LT. It looked bad, yes, but it's kind of nice to have a knee to walk on later in life.
 
2012-06-17 10:01:26 PM

bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.


Hobbs doing the Lights Out dance on the SD field.

Link
 
2012-06-17 10:07:19 PM

overfienduglar: bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.


Hobbs doing the Lights Out dance on the SD field.

Link


And? Defending your dignity on your home turf after a bad playoff loss is crying? It was a classless thing to do by Hobbs.
 
2012-06-17 10:07:51 PM

UNC_Samurai: davidphogan: He started playing for the Chargers right about when I moved there, and got me to watch football again. (Go fark yourself, Ralph Wilson.) I'm glad that AJ Smith is willing to do this, it'd be a terrible PR move not to.

It's the first smart personnel move Smith's made in about five years.

bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.

The Smails Kid: Who will the Chargers get to sit on the bench late in playoff games now?

Rivers may be a man among children for playing with torn knee ligaments, but a jump cut running back just can't no matter who he is

Yeah, I don't get idiots that knock on LT. It looked bad, yes, but it's kind of nice to have a knee to walk on later in life.


I think he did some great moves this year. We'll see how it works out, but AJ was quite aggressive this year. He also (I think) was smart to get Matthews, but again, we'll see about that.

As for LT, I can't fault him. If they had won they'd have been screwed by breaking him for the rest of the playoffs.
 
2012-06-17 11:00:48 PM
I didn't, until just now, realize that LdT played with any other teams besides San Diego. And I'm an NFL fan...a Bronco fan, to be particular. Holy crap, how did I miss this? I gotta spend less time with my wife and kids, and more time watching football. This is unacceptable.
 
2012-06-17 11:07:44 PM
You had an amazing career. Now, your football career might be over but your life isn't. Save your money, don't go broke in 5 years, and don't kill yourself. Take some time off, then put your passion for football into something new.
 
2012-06-17 11:38:49 PM

bhcompy: overfienduglar: bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.


Hobbs doing the Lights Out dance on the SD field.

Link

And? Defending your dignity on your home turf after a bad playoff loss is crying? It was a classless thing to do by Hobbs.


Funny, I don't recall LT ever mentioning that Merriman doing the lights out dance on an opponents field during playoff games was disrespectful to the other team.

People in glass houses etc. etc.
 
2012-06-17 11:43:29 PM

Le Bomb Suprize: bhcompy: overfienduglar: bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.


Hobbs doing the Lights Out dance on the SD field.

Link

And? Defending your dignity on your home turf after a bad playoff loss is crying? It was a classless thing to do by Hobbs.

Funny, I don't recall LT ever mentioning that Merriman doing the lights out dance on an opponents field during playoff games was disrespectful to the other team.

People in glass houses etc. etc.


Not exactly the same scenario. It would be more like him doing the Dirty Bird in Atlanta or saluting on the star in Dallas.
 
2012-06-17 11:54:27 PM
"Most massive stars?"
 
2012-06-18 12:06:11 AM

bhcompy: Le Bomb Suprize: bhcompy: overfienduglar: bhcompy: Patronick313: One of the all time biggest cry babies hangs them up.

Good.

What, exactly, did he cry about? If anything, he was criticized for being too quiet and reserved.


Hobbs doing the Lights Out dance on the SD field.

Link

And? Defending your dignity on your home turf after a bad playoff loss is crying? It was a classless thing to do by Hobbs.

Funny, I don't recall LT ever mentioning that Merriman doing the lights out dance on an opponents field during playoff games was disrespectful to the other team.

People in glass houses etc. etc.

Not exactly the same scenario. It would be more like him doing the Dirty Bird in Atlanta or saluting on the star in Dallas.


You're right in that LT doing the dirty bird or something on an opponents field would be disrespectful. Him whining about another player showing "disrespect" by imitating a disrespectful move means he is a crybaby. Or are you saying that Merriman doing his Lights Out over a qb he just sacked is just good natured celebration?

My point is that I never heard LT state that perhaps the Lights Out move was a bit disrespectful and that Merriman should show a little more class. LT was great at dishing it out but he was not so great at taking his medicine.
 
rka
2012-06-18 12:25:37 AM
Can we take a moment here and contemplate the how much the Chargers screwed the pooch by not winning it all the last 5-6 years? They basically had a lock on their division and arguably the most talent in the AFC if not the NFL. And what did that get them?

Nothing. A metric ton of nothing.

That's a fark up of epic proportions right there. Blame it on MartyBall, blame it on Norval, blame it on the GM or ownership. Hell, blame them all. The whole franchise reeks of failure when you look back on what they had and what they squandered.
 
2012-06-18 12:50:57 AM

gtfan92: Ken VeryBigLiar: Cooperstown

It's Canton.


Somewhere, Rotsky is smiling.
 
2012-06-18 01:58:57 AM

rka: Can we take a moment here and contemplate the how much the Chargers screwed the pooch by not winning it all the last 5-6 years? They basically had a lock on their division and arguably the most talent in the AFC if not the NFL. And what did that get them?

Nothing. A metric ton of nothing.

That's a fark up of epic proportions right there. Blame it on MartyBall, blame it on Norval, blame it on the GM or ownership. Hell, blame them all. The whole franchise reeks of failure when you look back on what they had and what they squandered.


rka: Can we take a moment here and contemplate the how much the Chargers screwed the pooch by not winning it all the last 5-6 years? They basically had a lock on their division and arguably the most talent in the AFC if not the NFL. And what did that get them?

Nothing. A metric ton of nothing.

That's a fark up of epic proportions right there. Blame it on MartyBall, blame it on Norval, blame it on the GM or ownership. Hell, blame them all. The whole franchise reeks of failure when you look back on what they had and what they squandered.


This is what happens when you fire a coach who went 14-2. 8 points from 16-0. I know he Martied the playoffs to the Patriots, but Jesus.

14-2!
 
2012-06-18 04:03:13 AM
Riothamus
This is what happens when you fire a coach who went 14-2. 8 points from 16-0. I know he Martied the playoffs to the Patriots, but Jesus.

14-2!


People blame Marty for that loss but it wasn't his fault IMHO. The Chargers were well onto winning that game after the first half when they seemed to realize that fact and then a whole of fail followed. Eric Parker muffing, then fumbling away a punt was not Marty Schottenheimier's fault. Drayton Florence headbutting a guy and incurring a fifteen yard penalty was not Marty Schottenheimer's fault. Marlon McCree fumbling away the game winning interception was not Marty Schottenheimer's fault.

Even if the Chargers somehow win a Super Bowl it will not be the same without Marty on the sidelines and LT in the backfield. Both were greats in the game and both deserved to taste the ultimate victory the sport had to offer. Sad to see you go LT.

sandiegobloggers.com
 
2012-06-18 09:59:34 AM
So, he retires as the NFL's 5th all-time leading rusher in terms of yardage. The sportsyak guys on ESPNRadio this weekend were arguing where he should rank all time as RB, with the consensus being lower end of the top 10. Farkers, is that consensus right?

I mean he's definitely below (IMO) Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Emmet Smith & Marshall Faulk but what other RB's all-time are better? Dickerson? Sweetness?
 
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