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(Huffington Post)   Five misconceptions about alien life. "The idea that they've come for breeding purposes is more akin to wishful thinking by members of the audience who don't have good social lives"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 29
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2012-06-17 01:13:06 PM
6 votes:
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2012-06-17 12:15:04 PM
2 votes:
The biggest misconception is that the aliens will be on a par with us in size. They will be in the range of 4ft to 10ft in height, so our popular press seems to think Pffft, they don't even know what a foot is. The most likely alien we will first encounter will be sized less than a an inch, more likely a germ. We've already met them, I'm sure. They died before we recognized them. the whole space fleet, bent on destruction and annihilation of our species, was swallowed by a small dog

/RIP Doug Adams
//we need to go there, first
///
2012-06-17 11:58:23 AM
2 votes:
So, the guys waiting for Xev Bellringer are a bunch of Stanley Tweedles?

Makes sense.
2012-06-17 11:46:24 AM
2 votes:

GAT_00: MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: They won't come in peace

Yeah, this is one of those that you have to think through. As I figure, any species powerful to get here, since best as we can tell that is very expensive, difficult and time consuming, is doing it with a specific purpose: they want what is here.

Which assumes they'd be as stupid, shortsighted, and greedy as we are

/if that were the case, they'd never get here
//just like we'll never get off of this planet

If they were a decaying remnant of their civilization escaping with the last resources they might.


Ya know... that might make a good plot for a SyFy channel movie

/or maybe even a summer blockbuster with the right star
//I wonder what Adam Sandler is up to?
2012-06-17 11:11:07 AM
2 votes:
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2012-06-19 09:21:27 AM
1 votes:
There is probably a special beacon somewhere just outside our Solar System telling galactic passer-bys:

"Roll up your windows, lock your doors, and don't pick up any hitch-hikers for the next 2 parsecs."
2012-06-17 01:49:00 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: They won't come in peace

Yeah, this is one of those that you have to think through. As I figure, any species powerful to get here, since best as we can tell that is very expensive, difficult and time consuming, is doing it with a specific purpose: they want what is here.


Bath salts. They planted them here as an experiment.
2012-06-17 01:37:44 PM
1 votes:
Chances are that if an alien race were to drop in and say hi, I'd like to think it'd be because finding an intelligent species is rare in the known universe.

POINT: Don't expect them to think like us.

In recorded history, we've run into that with our own species. Even today there are communication difficulties between countries because we tend to think differently.

I watched a video from China where this guy pulled into a parking area with lots of people walking around. He plowed over a little girl of about three. The wheel of his van went right over her. He stopped and as folks looked on, backed up, running her over again and drove off. No one stopped him. No one checked on the little girl who was bleeding out. No one called the cops or rescue. Several minutes went by with the girl laying there before a lady checked, then got the girl's mom, who scooped her up and took her to the hospital. The last report I had was that the girl was in critical condition but alive.

The mass reaction of a group of possibly 50 people doing their daily business to a crushed kid bleeding out was essentially 'not my problem'. I studied the crowd. Many would look, note the girl and keep on walking.

China, after centuries of suppression and turmoil, does NOT think like us.
Various areas of the Middle East, even the oil rich areas, have no problem with stoning a criminal to death or beheading one. Their version of beheading is not what you think. (A big blade, kneeling prisoner and a chopping block.) No. The prisoner is heavily tranquilized, bound up and the executioner removes his head with a knife, like butchering a pig, taking time to slice the tendons, letting him bleed out, then digging around in the neck, cutting through cartilage and bone until the head comes off.

We'd find this horrifying. They don't.

In some nations, various social classes are treated like animals with no hope of change since they were born into the caste. The population accepts this. Our own global history shows that ALL RACES in the past had no problems with forcing others into slavery and had a history of being slaves themselves.

Recently, our own government changed the laws concerning eminent dominion, meaning confiscating land for the good of the nation. Now, land can be confiscated for the good of the developer -- and very few seem to have a problem with this.

We have a legacy of being lied to by businesses. Even today in advertising. We accept that. In some places, this would not be accepted. If you brag about how your product is the number one in the land, you'd better have actual proof of this.

We tend to consider aliens as being like ourselves, which is probably a good reason for them to stay away. Our morals and values shift along national boundaries. Our 'civilized condition' changes depending on amounts of available needed resources. Our 'rights' fluxuate depending on our national economies.

It's hard to grasp the concept of an alien intelligence not thinking like us. After all, we've had super smart people who had no problem with abandoning ethics to further their research or to enrich themselves at the cost of many lives.

I'd like to figure that aliens are friendly and helpful, like in so many science fiction books I've read, but the hard fact is, their version of friendly might not be ours.

Like when Columbus landed on a small island, found it populated and the people very friendly, gentle and kind. He admired their technology, their society and their beauty. At the same time, he was making notes about how valuable they would be as SLAVES and how much money could be made off them.

He had no problem with this.

Trying to grasp the thinking of a species nothing like our own is nearly impossible -- and, somewhat scary.

We mainly rely on our own historical experiences. Even with our advanced civilization today, you must be cautious when dealing with members of your own kind. New technologies also tend to bring along a whole new set of abuses and criminal activities.

It's hard to imagine a civilization that wouldn't do that.
2012-06-17 01:31:46 PM
1 votes:
Ack ack ack.
2012-06-17 01:23:41 PM
1 votes:
Reminds me of a Private Eye cartoon: two aliens meet on the street with their mates, one of whom is a walrus and the other is a dumpy woman.

Caption: "That's the way it is here. Either they're good-looking or they can cook."

I think the cartoonists have a much better grip on reality than scientists or escapist literature writers.

Support your cartoonists! They are the way forward for mankind.
2012-06-17 12:54:27 PM
1 votes:
Okay, let's tackle these two right quick.

3. They're immune to Earth's bacteria
4. They won't eat us

Lets go back to Stanley Miller's experiment, wherein he showed both that hydrocarbons exposed to electric discharges generate essential amino acids and that those amino acids would be common to such formation events.

If such amino acids are common, then bacteria will be an issue both ways. There's a whole complexity of what's a poison and what's a treat, but at the amino level it's a bacterial feast. And given a few days of selective pressures I'm sure they'd be a problem, since I doubt the bacteriophages would make as big a leap.

As far as them eating us, well... Adult humans are full of crap, they'd want to eat the babies. Just a modest proposal.
2012-06-17 12:52:28 PM
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: You can't have a misconception about something not yet proven to exist. Until they are, all theories are equally valid. Logic is a biatch.


/hope they're green and horny.


Not at all. A theory based on (for example) what we know of exoplanets and what could evolve on them is more solid than "maybe they'll be made out of butter and fart happiness!".
2012-06-17 12:41:10 PM
1 votes:
3 tits? That's awesome.

4.bp.blogspot.com

/hot
2012-06-17 12:32:01 PM
1 votes:
Other galactic races are working overtime to make sure we don't get past the Van Allen belts.

They don't want a bipedal intelligent race of beings loose in their area who are bred for and are superb at war, breed like rats, able to adapt to any environment, thrive and make war in it.

The whole alien-thing is them trying to keep us bottled up. Our own government's unrelenting drive to ruin our hopes and dreams and make us subservient is proof that elites consider you and me dangerous.

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2012-06-17 12:31:46 PM
1 votes:
Anthropological curiosity. It's less popular than it is now, but people used to go visit obscure tribes in unindustrialized countries just to say that they did.

/Imagine some of the stories they would bring back to their people.
//"Humans think their dead can smell. We know because they bring flowers to their death rituals."
2012-06-17 12:15:12 PM
1 votes:
"Think about how well we breed with other species on Earth, and they have DNA. It would be like trying to breed with an oak tree."

Well, I have been accused of having a stick up my ass...
2012-06-17 12:09:00 PM
1 votes:
We don't have any resources that couldn't be found elsewhere by a spacefaring race. Really the only reason that aliens would go to the trouble to come here would be evangelism...

They'll show up very nicely if conservatively dressed, and ask "Have you heard the Good News about Qzretyu?"

Either that or a xenophobic pogrom.
2012-06-17 12:08:40 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I doubt seriously they'd come to mate with us, but some of the others seem like pretty broad assumptions


Speak for yourself.

I'm dead sexy.
2012-06-17 12:01:34 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: They won't come in peace

Yeah, this is one of those that you have to think through. As I figure, any species powerful to get here, since best as we can tell that is very expensive, difficult and time consuming, is doing it with a specific purpose: they want what is here.

Which assumes they'd be as stupid, shortsighted, and greedy as we are

/if that were the case, they'd never get here
//just like we'll never get off of this planet


Or, they come here to WAAAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!
2012-06-17 12:01:06 PM
1 votes:
One might even say them speaking in such absolutes when they supposedly have no evidence of anything is sloppy science.
2012-06-17 11:56:58 AM
1 votes:
Unlike the common beliefs, aliens are not attracted to the sexy women, but instead find overweight unkemp men very sexy and abduct them all from Earth. Take that, lonely overweight unsexed guys!
2012-06-17 11:56:08 AM
1 votes:
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2012-06-17 11:55:48 AM
1 votes:

Psycoholic_Slag: Molavian: More likely they'd want to hire us as cheap foreign labor.

We'll make great pets.


the alien lib-o-rats will try to stop them from enslaving us, but then they'll be stupid enough to give us voting rights and we'll vote for the alien republicans dooming us all
2012-06-17 11:55:22 AM
1 votes:
Fark you, Subby. It's the only way I'm gonna get some. Let me dream!

:-p
2012-06-17 11:52:44 AM
1 votes:
So no tentacle pron for reals?
2012-06-17 11:51:01 AM
1 votes:
More likely they'd want to hire us as cheap foreign labor.
2012-06-17 11:50:12 AM
1 votes:
5 things they desperately don't want you to believe about alien life.
2012-06-17 11:18:48 AM
1 votes:

GAT_00: They won't come in peace

Yeah, this is one of those that you have to think through. As I figure, any species powerful to get here, since best as we can tell that is very expensive, difficult and time consuming, is doing it with a specific purpose: they want what is here.


Which assumes they'd be as stupid, shortsighted, and greedy as we are

/if that were the case, they'd never get here
//just like we'll never get off of this planet
2012-06-17 10:53:30 AM
1 votes:
Speculating about what hypothetical aliens might hypothetically do if they land here in some unknown future based on no knowledge of them whatsoever? At least at the end of a real life circle jerk, the participants have a little something to show for it.
 
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