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(Medical Xpress)   Freud's theory of unconscious conflict now linked to anxiety symptoms (phobias) in new research, also your mom (penis)   (medicalxpress.com) divider line 14
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2012-06-17 11:51:29 AM  
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You just sheeple read this in his gargantuan penis voice.
 
2012-06-17 12:08:59 PM  
The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.

From these interviews the psychoanalysts inferred what underlying unconscious conflict might be causing the person's anxiety disorder.

Last I checked, the scientific method doesn't count inference.

And people wonder why so many of us think psychology is not a science:
 
2012-06-17 01:40:38 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.



And where's the control group?
 
2012-06-17 02:18:44 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.


And where's the control group?


I'm not sure what they would even control for. see if people without anxiety disorders get the same response from the psychoanalyst?
 
2012-06-17 02:27:39 PM  
My brain only experiences unconscious conflict after a few too many Black Labels.
 
2012-06-17 03:04:38 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.

From these interviews the psychoanalysts inferred what underlying unconscious conflict might be causing the person's anxiety disorder.

Last I checked, the scientific method doesn't count inference.

And people wonder why so many of us think psychology is not a science:


Let's not confuse psychoanalysis with psychology. It would be like someone treating a patient for an imbalance in their humors and and using it an example of all medical procedures.
 
2012-06-17 03:16:07 PM  

Glenford: Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.

From these interviews the psychoanalysts inferred what underlying unconscious conflict might be causing the person's anxiety disorder.

Last I checked, the scientific method doesn't count inference.

And people wonder why so many of us think psychology is not a science:

Let's not confuse psychoanalysis with psychology. It would be like someone treating a patient for an imbalance in their humors and and using it an example of all medical procedures.


Sorry, chum. All of psychology is like treating a patient for an imbalance in humors and calling it a medical procedure.
 
2012-06-17 04:27:18 PM  

falkone32: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.


And where's the control group?

I'm not sure what they would even control for. see if people without anxiety disorders get the same response from the psychoanalyst?


Well, yeah. Otherwise how can we be sure the psychoanalyst isn't just using these people as fodder for his imagination?

"They have an anxiety disorder because they're seeing a psychiatrist" is just begging the question.

What about people who don't have anxiety disorders? How would they respond to the same analysis?
 
2012-06-17 05:35:36 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Glenford: Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.

From these interviews the psychoanalysts inferred what underlying unconscious conflict might be causing the person's anxiety disorder.

Last I checked, the scientific method doesn't count inference.

And people wonder why so many of us think psychology is not a science:

Let's not confuse psychoanalysis with psychology. It would be like someone treating a patient for an imbalance in their humors and and using it an example of all medical procedures.

Sorry, chum. All of psychology is like treating a patient for an imbalance in humors and calling it a medical procedure.


I agreed with your initial post in this thread, but the above is pretty ignorant.
 
2012-06-17 06:09:37 PM  
My take on unconscious conflict leading to anxiety is based on Leigh McCollough Vaillant's work, which is pretty down-to-earth and has excellent empirical support: When we have an activating emotion (say, love, caring, or another emotion that naturally leads towards action) going on at the same time as an inhibiting emotion (say, fear or shame over showing that love or caring), anxiety very often results.
 
2012-06-17 06:26:15 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Benevolent Misanthrope: The research involved 11 people with anxiety disorders who each received a series of psychoanalytically oriented diagnostic sessions conducted by a psychoanalyst.

Helluva sample size there, doc.


And where's the control group?


Not necessary. It's a within-sample design, so the participants act as the control group for themselves. That is, they compared the effect with the therapist-identified words (experimental condition) to the effect with the control words (control condition). Repeated measures design is, in many ways, better than using separate samples.

That said, this sample size of 11 is crap.
 
2012-06-17 06:30:47 PM  
And they were tested subconciously...DO WHAT?
 
2012-06-17 06:47:23 PM  
Titty sprinkles.
 
2012-06-18 01:02:49 AM  
fark Freud. He was an impulsive, albeit insightful narcissist with a coke-headed clarity that made half of his work nearly laughable. Jung was a brilliant, though somewhat anti-scientific mystic; however William James was just plain brilliant, especially if you consider his insights pre-dated modern neuroscience and were pretty much spot-on.

/fark Freud
//He'd think that was pretty deep and telling, I'm sure
 
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