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2012-06-17 07:27:52 AM  
Just wait until the squirrels organize...
 
2012-06-17 07:28:41 AM  
If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.
 
2012-06-17 07:32:22 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Just wait until the squirrels organize...


Indeed. And their merciless revenge will gnaw at his soul forever.
 
2012-06-17 07:33:01 AM  
Squirrels are just rats with a PR budget.
 
2012-06-17 07:33:53 AM  
Squirrels believe they can "confuse" your car by darting and zig-zagging back and forth in the road instead of running straight across it quickly...

...which means the hunter and his prey have at least one thing in common.
 
2012-06-17 07:34:47 AM  
One year I stuck a stuffed-animal dog head on a stick an put it in my garden area. I knew dogs would not care, but I found that a lot fewer neighbours decided to let their dogs piss on my flowers.
 
2012-06-17 07:35:12 AM  
At first I was going to biatch about the neighbor not minding her own farking business until I saw the picture of dead squirrels draped across the privacy fence.
 
2012-06-17 07:35:28 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Just wait until the squirrels organize...


Organize?

God dammit, that's the last thing we need, squirrel unions constantly asking for more nuts, squirrel teamsters threatening to strike and impede honest squirrel businesses from competing in the squirrel marketplace. Squirrel politicians running for squirrel president on a platform of intolerance for squirresexuals, or deporting all the black squirrels back to Canada where they came from, squirrel senators living fat off the nuts that other squirrels collect, taking bribes to ensure their buddies get all the prime trees. Squirrel congresssquirrels legislating o'squirrel-care into being, taking choice of squirrel insurance away from the average squirrel on the street, squirrel supreme court legislating from the bench about squirbortions, SPOTUS declaring war on the marmots of central asia with only the red squirrels of england for backup....

I see what you mean, the future is a scary place.
 
2012-06-17 07:36:49 AM  

Gothnet: FirstNationalBastard: Just wait until the squirrels organize...

Organize?

God dammit, that's the last thing we need, squirrel unions constantly asking for more nuts, squirrel teamsters threatening to strike and impede honest squirrel businesses from competing in the squirrel marketplace. Squirrel politicians running for squirrel president on a platform of intolerance for squirresexuals, or deporting all the black squirrels back to Canada where they came from, squirrel senators living fat off the nuts that other squirrels collect, taking bribes to ensure their buddies get all the prime trees. Squirrel congresssquirrels legislating o'squirrel-care into being, taking choice of squirrel insurance away from the average squirrel on the street, squirrel supreme court legislating from the bench about squirbortions, SPOTUS declaring war on the marmots of central asia with only the red squirrels of england for backup....

I see what you mean, the future is a scary place.


idealab.fstudio.com
 
2012-06-17 07:40:09 AM  
This is a clear case of stupidity. If he really thinks the squirrels will see their fallen brethren and think twice about it, he is a complete idiot.

Had he just shot the squirrels and disposed of their bodies in a humane fashion, no one would have complained, and he would not be in any trouble.
 
2012-06-17 07:41:35 AM  

Old Man Winter: One year I stuck a stuffed-animal dog head on a stick an put it in my garden area. I knew dogs would not care, but I found that a lot fewer neighbours decided to let their dogs piss on my flowers.


LMAO!
 
2012-06-17 07:44:14 AM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


It's because Obama took his guns away.
 
2012-06-17 07:44:48 AM  
So ... the war has begun.
 
2012-06-17 07:45:28 AM  
styckx
At first I was going to biatch about the neighbor not minding her own farking business until I saw the picture of dead squirrels draped across the privacy fence.

i bet the shooter was pissed at the neighbor because the neighbor fed them or left food/garbage outside uncovered. stupid move on the shooters part and if someone is feeding them you never will get them out of the nearby yards.
 
2012-06-17 07:59:26 AM  

starlost:
i bet the shooter was pissed at the neighbor because the neighbor fed them or left food/garbage outside uncovered.


My neighbor feeds skunks. It's real nice to wake up to the smell of skunk spray coming in the bedroom window at least once a week.
 
2012-06-17 08:04:39 AM  
What? Not one comment about "he shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands" spoken by an authority figure? It's as if they are equating him popping a few squirrels with a pellet gun and him walking over to thesuspected neighborhood thief and shooting him while yelling "There! That'll teach you you fekkin bastard!"

It also begs the question, out of whos hands the matter was taken. The Police? Animal Control? The Local pest control company? Cops; A squirrel...GTFO. Animal Control; Hahaha, squirrel....noob! Local Pest Control Co. ; $500 upfront w/no guarantee.

As for the nosey neighboor...well he should have known about the crazy old coont living next door as there is almost a 100% certainty that shes the one feeding the little bastards and watching them all the time for enjoyment. As such he should have found a way to distract her...and also NOT hang them up for show.
 
2012-06-17 08:18:50 AM  
and in Linden it is against the law to shoot squirrels

Is it also against the law to set rat traps? Squirrels and rats are rodents. Most places in this country, a person can shoot and kill a human who breaks into his house, but in NJ you can't kill a farking squirrel which has invaded your house? Maybe he should call Vexconwww.blogcdn.com

But I concur, if he hadn't hung them on the fence, we probably wouldn't have heard about this. Dick move.
 
2012-06-17 08:20:55 AM  
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2012-06-17 08:30:28 AM  

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When I see something like this, I can't help but wonder what possessed someone to stage the photo. Seriously, who sees a dead squirrell and thinks of this?

I know, welcome to fark...
 
2012-06-17 08:31:52 AM  
He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.
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/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.
 
2012-06-17 08:34:49 AM  
i must be some sort of monster to these people.

img42.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-17 08:36:37 AM  
I live in Jersey, and I had squirrel problems at a previous residence. This guy needs to get a lawyer ASAP, because the charges of animal cruelty are complete BS.

First, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL IN N.J. TO DESTROY FERAL SQUIRRELS. That's state law, the town has nothing to do with it. A feral squirrel is any squirrel that is damaging property, or is otherwise a threat to public health. This guy had every right to snuff the furry little bastards after they got into his house. It probably is some violation of local health ordinances to hang animal carrion in your backyard, however.

This guy's real problem is in the way he killed the squirrels. Under N.J. state law, BB guns are classified as firearms. I'm sure his town has laws against discharge of a firearm within city limits.

What he should have done is trapped the squirrels with a live trap, drowned them in a trashcan filled with water, and thrown them in the trash. Yeah, I know, kill traps work good on squirrels, but many N.J. towns forbid kill traps, and there is always the danger you'll kill someone's pet, and that would cost you a lot of money. No, you can't trap and release. IT IS ILLEGAL TO RELEASE A TRAPPED FERAL ANIMAL ON ANY PUBLIC LAND IN THE STATE OF N.J. You can trap a feral animal on private property and release it on PRIVATE property at another location that is owned by you or on property where you have the owner's permission. In reality, it's easier to exterminate them after they have been trapped. Pro exterminators in N.J. trap feral squirrels in live traps, take them back to their place of business, and gas them.

The cops seem to be making up charges because they either don't know what their are doing, or the old biatch next door has some pull down at the municipal building, or there is some history between the cops and this guy.

Like I said, he needs a lawyer ASAP.
 
2012-06-17 08:37:08 AM  
So.. he was Mexican ?
 
2012-06-17 08:42:27 AM  

Fissile: This guy's real problem is in the way he killed the squirrels. Under N.J. state law, BB guns are classified as firearms. I'm sure his town has laws against discharge of a firearm within city limits.


Umm, I'm no gun enthusiast, but to be a firearm, shouldn't a firearm produce fire of some kind?
Seeing that a BB gun has no firing cap or black powder of any kind, wouldn't classifying them as a firearm be an out and out lie?
 
2012-06-17 08:45:56 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Fissile: This guy's real problem is in the way he killed the squirrels. Under N.J. state law, BB guns are classified as firearms. I'm sure his town has laws against discharge of a firearm within city limits.

Umm, I'm no gun enthusiast, but to be a firearm, shouldn't a firearm produce fire of some kind?
Seeing that a BB gun has no firing cap or black powder of any kind, wouldn't classifying them as a firearm be an out and out lie?


================

Forget it, Jake, it's Linden-town.
 
2012-06-17 08:55:23 AM  
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'Amateur'
 
2012-06-17 08:56:15 AM  

jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.
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/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.


I need one of those in my yard.

But, I do have some small birds (parents protecting their nest) that attack the squirrels as they try and eat from their feeder. Pretty funny stuff.
 
2012-06-17 08:59:13 AM  
He should put a chipmunk's head in their bed.
 
2012-06-17 09:02:58 AM  
www.veryicon.com

Run.
 
2012-06-17 09:08:55 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: He should put a chipmunk's head in their bed.


Like.
 
2012-06-17 09:11:46 AM  
He can't use the "stand your ground" defense, because the squirrels weren't black
 
2012-06-17 09:11:50 AM  
A neighbor reportedly called the local board of health with an animal cruelty complaint.
If convicted, Baird, 49, could face up to $1,000 fine


Wow, what a good value
I think I'll kill my neighbour too!
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!
I'm gonna kill the guy next door
(kill the guy next door)
Won't call the cops anymore
I never liked him anyway
1,000 isn't much to pay!
 
2012-06-17 09:13:15 AM  

rkelley25: He can't use the "stand your ground" defense, because the squirrels weren't black


www.sugarbushsquirrel.com
 
2012-06-17 09:13:49 AM  

rkelley25: He can't use the "stand your ground" defense, because the squirrels weren't black


He should've sprinkled crack/Skittles on the corpses.
 
2012-06-17 09:16:10 AM  
They are varmints if they are damaging property and he can legally kill them. He does need a lawyer, he was also charge with the wrong thing.
 
2012-06-17 09:22:21 AM  

bohab: i must be some sort of monster to these people.


Dam...that looks good.

Love me some squirrel.
 
2012-06-17 09:38:39 AM  
Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.
 
2012-06-17 09:46:13 AM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


It's New Jersey, I'm actually surprised he's not facing weapons charges.

/should have set up a blind on the second floor so nosy neighbors can't see you and use an air rifle
//collect the carcasses at night
 
2012-06-17 09:47:06 AM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


A high powered BB gun (ours is 850fps at 10 pumps, but we've found that 5 is more than enough) is usually a one shot insta-kill. We only shoot the ones that are eating through our bird feeders though.
 
2012-06-17 09:47:51 AM  
He could have hung them on the fence to make squirrel jerky.
 
2012-06-17 10:02:08 AM  
phenn [TotalFark] 2012-06-17 09:38:39 AM

Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats


I was in Washington D.C. I'd spent a lovely day at the Smithsonian American History Museum and I was enjoying lunch on a park bench. A squirrel walks up to me and begs for a cheese curl. I said no. The squirrel gets closer. This thing was pretty big and reminded me of Stitch.

I throw a few cheese curls a few feet away but he doesn't see this and he wants the ones in my hand. I get up and walk away. The squirrel follows me. I walk in another direction, the squirrel continues to follow me.

I try to shoo it with my roller bag. It won't leave me alone. I finally appeal to a group of strangers to help me and it takes me and a crowd of other people to shoo the squirrel away. It still continues to watch me through some bars and a man finally decides to wait with me at the bus stop. The squirrel does not walk away entirely until I get on the bus. I half expected to see the scary bastard at my next stop.

So I hate squirrels and I despise people who feed the nasty little buggers.

Please, don't feed the squirrels.
 
2012-06-17 10:03:40 AM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


I agree with you for the most part. I don't see a problem here unless he was a poor shot or the particular BB gun wasn't powerful enough for a single shot kill. I've killed them and rabbits that refused to leave house or garden alone using a pallet/BB gun. Effective and quiet.

/Don't understand or relate to hanging them up like cattle rustlers though.
 
2012-06-17 10:04:10 AM  
Good old dad converted a bug zapper to a squirrel zapper. Also works on other small rodents.
 
2012-06-17 10:05:34 AM  
I couldn't kill all the little tree rats around my house with a machine gun, but I understand that he didn't want them in the house. They can be very destructive. Around here we call them natures little speed bumps.
 
2012-06-17 10:07:35 AM  

Count Dyscalculia: What? Not one comment about "he shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands" spoken by an authority figure? It's as if they are equating him popping a few squirrels with a pellet gun and him walking over to thesuspected neighborhood thief and shooting him while yelling "There! That'll teach you you fekkin bastard!"

It also begs the question, out of whos hands the matter was taken. The Police? Animal Control? The Local pest control company? Cops; A squirrel...GTFO. Animal Control; Hahaha, squirrel....noob! Local Pest Control Co. ; $500 upfront w/no guarantee.

As for the nosey neighboor...well he should have known about the crazy old coont living next door as there is almost a 100% certainty that shes the one feeding the little bastards and watching them all the time for enjoyment. As such he should have found a way to distract her...and also NOT hang them up for show.


If I called animal control over some freakin' squirrels, I would fully expect within the next five minutes to see a monster truck pull up in my drive way, and a couple of beefy guys get out wearing flannel and tool belts, walk up to my front door and beat on it resoundingly until I answered, then grab me in a headlock and demand I turn in my man card on the spot.
 
2012-06-17 10:11:42 AM  

phenn: Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.


You've never had the farkers knaw their way into your house and set up shop in your attic, have you? It gets kind of hard to sleep when they're running trials for the 100m dash in preparation for the 2014 Squirrel Olympics six feet above your head.
 
2012-06-17 10:14:15 AM  
That tactic never works.

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2012-06-17 10:14:46 AM  

ox45tallboy: phenn: Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.

You've never had the farkers knaw their way into your house and set up shop in your attic, have you? It gets kind of hard to sleep when they're running trials for the 100m dash in preparation for the 2014 Squirrel Olympics six feet above your head.


I had a raccoon do that once.... I wanted to strangle him with my leather gloves on.
 
2012-06-17 10:21:46 AM  

Hermione_Granger: phenn [TotalFark] 2012-06-17 09:38:39 AM

Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats

I was in Washington D.C. I'd spent a lovely day at the Smithsonian American History Museum and I was enjoying lunch on a park bench. A squirrel walks up to me and begs for a cheese curl. I said no. The squirrel gets closer. This thing was pretty big and reminded me of Stitch.

I throw a few cheese curls a few feet away but he doesn't see this and he wants the ones in my hand. I get up and walk away. The squirrel follows me. I walk in another direction, the squirrel continues to follow me.

I try to shoo it with my roller bag. It won't leave me alone. I finally appeal to a group of strangers to help me and it takes me and a crowd of other people to shoo the squirrel away. It still continues to watch me through some bars and a man finally decides to wait with me at the bus stop. The squirrel does not walk away entirely until I get on the bus. I half expected to see the scary bastard at my next stop.

So I hate squirrels and I despise people who feed the nasty little buggers.

Please, don't feed the squirrels.


i391.photobucket.com

DC Squirrel past the Vietnam Wall. You'll be happy to know I did not feed it, but he looked like he wanted to mug me for that Chex Mix. Also I love the 'For ME?' look in this picture :D
 
2012-06-17 10:34:47 AM  

ox45tallboy: phenn: Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.

You've never had the farkers knaw their way into your house and set up shop in your attic, have you? It gets kind of hard to sleep when they're running trials for the 100m dash in preparation for the 2014 Squirrel Olympics six feet above your head.


Nope. Never even heard of such a thing happening around here. Maybe they are different from region to region.
 
2012-06-17 10:36:18 AM  
I actually quite like squirrels. I think they are cute. I don't even mind when they attack my bird feeders.
What I don't like are crows. Great big noisy, flying, friggin scavenger rats, is what those things are. There are times in the winter when they attack every garbage can in the neighborhood and just make a huge mess of things.
I've actually walked up to a group of them in my garbage can, and got literally 6 inches away before they finally flew off.

In related news: I once got punched by a pigeon. It was in Philadelphia after all. I shouldn't have been surprised.
 
2012-06-17 10:37:27 AM  

ox45tallboy: phenn: Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.

You've never had the farkers knaw their way into your house and set up shop in your attic, have you? It gets kind of hard to sleep when they're running trials for the 100m dash in preparation for the 2014 Squirrel Olympics six feet above your head.


============

THIS

Or have squirrels destroy your garden, or destroy every single apple on your apple tree. If any of the above happened to you ,you'd realize what furry little terrorists squirrels really are, and you'd set up a blind in your backyard, and sit there all week with a scoped rifle until you exterminated every last one of the little farkers.
 
2012-06-17 10:37:39 AM  
Organized Squirrel's you say?
i5.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-17 10:39:05 AM  

durbnpoisn: This is a clear case of stupidity. If he really thinks the squirrels will see their fallen brethren and think twice about it, he is a complete idiot.

Had he just shot the squirrels and disposed of their bodies in a humane fashion, no one would have complained, and he would not be in any trouble.


If he had crushed the squirrels with a brick and disposed of their bodies discreetly, no one would have complained.
 
2012-06-17 10:39:55 AM  

Fissile: I live in Jersey, and I had squirrel problems at a previous residence. This guy needs to get a lawyer ASAP, because the charges of animal cruelty are complete BS.

First, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL IN N.J. TO DESTROY FERAL SQUIRRELS. That's state law, the town has nothing to do with it. A feral squirrel is any squirrel that is damaging property, or is otherwise a threat to public health. This guy had every right to snuff the furry little bastards after they got into his house. It probably is some violation of local health ordinances to hang animal carrion in your backyard, however.

This guy's real problem is in the way he killed the squirrels. Under N.J. state law, BB guns are classified as firearms. I'm sure his town has laws against discharge of a firearm within city limits.

What he should have done is trapped the squirrels with a live trap, drowned them in a trashcan filled with water, and thrown them in the trash. Yeah, I know, kill traps work good on squirrels, but many N.J. towns forbid kill traps, and there is always the danger you'll kill someone's pet, and that would cost you a lot of money. No, you can't trap and release. IT IS ILLEGAL TO RELEASE A TRAPPED FERAL ANIMAL ON ANY PUBLIC LAND IN THE STATE OF N.J. You can trap a feral animal on private property and release it on PRIVATE property at another location that is owned by you or on property where you have the owner's permission. In reality, it's easier to exterminate them after they have been trapped. Pro exterminators in N.J. trap feral squirrels in live traps, take them back to their place of business, and gas them.

The cops seem to be making up charges because they either don't know what their are doing, or the old biatch next door has some pull down at the municipal building, or there is some history between the cops and this guy.

Like I said, he needs a lawyer ASAP.


Since when are there feral squirrels?

/I like squirrels, but I was with this guy until he used peanut butter as bait
//whether it's legal or not I just don't feel like baiting animals to kill them is fair
 
2012-06-17 10:41:49 AM  

phenn: ox45tallboy: phenn: Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats.

You've never had the farkers knaw their way into your house and set up shop in your attic, have you? It gets kind of hard to sleep when they're running trials for the 100m dash in preparation for the 2014 Squirrel Olympics six feet above your head.

Nope. Never even heard of such a thing happening around here. Maybe they are different from region to region.


I'm guessing that you must live in a relatively temperate zone, with lots of trees forming natural hollowed-out-areas for the bushy-tailed rats to build their homes, so they don't go looking for any way possible into your nice warm attic. If not, you probably have a well-built house that keeps them out.
 
2012-06-17 10:44:14 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: He should put a chipmunk's head in their bed.


Win
 
2012-06-17 10:45:41 AM  
Used to hate squirrels. I taught my collie the word and would sic her on them in the backyard. Then I saw that she wasn't killing them, and had in fact befriended a couple of them. She would chase them a little, then do a play-bow when she got close, and then the squirrels would chase her back. I can't explain it, but I could tell the squirrels weren't upset and they were playing too. They would only go about one foot up a tree when they were "running." They lost all fear of her. It was quite endearing.
 
2012-06-17 10:45:41 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: durbnpoisn: This is a clear case of stupidity. If he really thinks the squirrels will see their fallen brethren and think twice about it, he is a complete idiot.

Had he just shot the squirrels and disposed of their bodies in a humane fashion, no one would have complained, and he would not be in any trouble.

If he had crushed the squirrels with a brick and disposed of their bodies discreetly, no one would have complained.


Squirrels are rodents, like rats. Are we still allowed to set rat traps now? Because those things aren't exactly humane. Half the time the trap springs in such a way it catches them in places other than the neck, so they are in agonizing pain until someone puts them out of their misery. Not exactly humane.

Seriously, is there a list somewhere of what nuisance animals we are allowed to kill on our own property?
 
2012-06-17 10:49:31 AM  

Chinchillazilla: Used to hate squirrels. I taught my collie the word and would sic her on them in the backyard. Then I saw that she wasn't killing them, and had in fact befriended a couple of them. She would chase them a little, then do a play-bow when she got close, and then the squirrels would chase her back. I can't explain it, but I could tell the squirrels weren't upset and they were playing too. They would only go about one foot up a tree when they were "running." They lost all fear of her. It was quite endearing.


www.domonation.com

"SQUIRREL!"

 
2012-06-17 10:54:18 AM  

ox45tallboy: Count Dyscalculia: What? Not one comment about "he shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands" spoken by an authority figure? It's as if they are equating him popping a few squirrels with a pellet gun and him walking over to thesuspected neighborhood thief and shooting him while yelling "There! That'll teach you you fekkin bastard!"

It also begs the question, out of whos hands the matter was taken. The Police? Animal Control? The Local pest control company? Cops; A squirrel...GTFO. Animal Control; Hahaha, squirrel....noob! Local Pest Control Co. ; $500 upfront w/no guarantee.

As for the nosey neighboor...well he should have known about the crazy old coont living next door as there is almost a 100% certainty that shes the one feeding the little bastards and watching them all the time for enjoyment. As such he should have found a way to distract her...and also NOT hang them up for show.

If I called animal control over some freakin' squirrels, I would fully expect within the next five minutes to see a monster truck pull up in my drive way, and a couple of beefy guys get out wearing flannel and tool belts, walk up to my front door and beat on it resoundingly until I answered, then grab me in a headlock and demand I turn in my man card on the spot.


yeah, i was sorta scratching my head at that. i imagine if i called animal control over some damn squirrels i'd get a "sure buddy, we'll get right on that" said between bouts of stifled laughter.
meanwhile, killing pests that are invading your home is "taking matters into your own hands" in a bad way, according to city officials.
squirrel are rats. fark squirrels.
 
2012-06-17 10:56:55 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Just wait until the squirrels organize...


i283.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-17 11:01:38 AM  
If he wants to intimidate the squirrels, he should take a look at the drug cartels.
 
2012-06-17 11:15:06 AM  

Lurk sober post drunk: squirrel are rats. fark squirrels.


Yeah, but they're cute. It's kind of like why we're not allowed to eat dog or horse in the US, but cows and pigs are okay. It's kind of arbitrary.

/and yes, I'm aware that legislation regarding horse processing for domestic consumption has recently loosened up a bit
 
2012-06-17 11:24:05 AM  

jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.
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/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.


Please tell me you have a video of this in action...
 
2012-06-17 11:25:11 AM  

jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.

/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.


Oh please tell me there is a video that goes with this picture.
 
2012-06-17 11:26:53 AM  

ladyfortuna: [i391.photobucket.com image 400x267]

DC Squirrel past the Vietnam Wall. You'll be happy to know I did not feed it, but he looked like he wanted to mug me for that Chex Mix. Also I love the 'For ME?' look in this picture :D


That's great haha.
 
2012-06-17 11:32:09 AM  

StrangeQ: jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.

Please tell me you have a video of this in action...


Squirrel catapult
 
2012-06-17 11:34:52 AM  

StrangeQ: jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.

Please tell me you have a video of this in action...


Uncivil Engineer: jmadisonbiii: He should've used a squirrel catapult to launch them back into the neighbor's yard. Probably still would've gotten arrested, though.

/Where is Eddie? He usually eats these goddam things.

Oh please tell me there is a video that goes with this picture.


Here you go., complete with Jane's Addiction soundtrack.
 
2012-06-17 11:40:35 AM  

Chinchillazilla:

/I like squirrels, but I was with this guy until he used peanut butter as ...


What good is a cheese-less mouse trap?
 
2012-06-17 11:59:07 AM  

Richard Saunders: Chinchillazilla:

/I like squirrels, but I was with this guy until he used peanut butter as ...

What good is a cheese-less mouse trap?


My Dad got some glue traps that smell like artificial-butter-flavored microwave popcorn.

However, they didn't work.
 
2012-06-17 12:15:27 PM  
This is called hunting in Kentucky and requires a license. To bad he didn't know how to skin em and cook these rather tasty critters.
 
2012-06-17 12:21:04 PM  

ladyfortuna: Hermione_Granger: phenn [TotalFark] 2012-06-17 09:38:39 AM

Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats

I was in Washington D.C. I'd spent a lovely day at the Smithsonian American History Museum and I was enjoying lunch on a park bench. A squirrel walks up to me and begs for a cheese curl. I said no. The squirrel gets closer. This thing was pretty big and reminded me of Stitch.

I throw a few cheese curls a few feet away but he doesn't see this and he wants the ones in my hand. I get up and walk away. The squirrel follows me. I walk in another direction, the squirrel continues to follow me.

I try to shoo it with my roller bag. It won't leave me alone. I finally appeal to a group of strangers to help me and it takes me and a crowd of other people to shoo the squirrel away. It still continues to watch me through some bars and a man finally decides to wait with me at the bus stop. The squirrel does not walk away entirely until I get on the bus. I half expected to see the scary bastard at my next stop.

So I hate squirrels and I despise people who feed the nasty little buggers.

Please, don't feed the squirrels.

[i391.photobucket.com image 400x267]

DC Squirrel past the Vietnam Wall. You'll be happy to know I did not feed it, but he looked like he wanted to mug me for that Chex Mix. Also I love the 'For ME?' look in this picture :D


What utter cruelty. Your conscience must haunt you.
 
2012-06-17 01:01:35 PM  
Supersonic pellet gun has been known to dispatch quite a few chipmunks in my yard. You're fine until you invade my crawlspace. At that point, you must die. Pellet gun makes no noise outside if I fire it from inside the house. I've considered building a small blind at my backdoor but, it turns out that I don't need one because the chipmunks aren't afraid of me and don't seem to grasp what's about to come out of the end of the barrel until it's too late.
 
2012-06-17 01:06:06 PM  
Rudolph Steiner getötet und bis Kaninchen verbrannten in einem deutschen Dorf von Kaninchen, die zerrissen wurden Kleingärten, verschlingt das Dorf Nahrungsmittelversorgung überrannt. Umgerechnet die Asche in eine flüssige Spray homöopathischen. Spritzbeton dies rund um die entlegenen Ecken des Dorfes.

Sie haben noch nie, bis zum heutigen Tag, hatten eine einzige Kaninchen innerhalb des Dorfes da.

Rudolph Steiner killed and burned up rabbits in a German village overrun by rabbits that were tearing up garden plots, devouring the village food supply. Converted the ash into a liquid spray homeopathic. Sprayed this all around the outlying edges of the village.

They have never, to this day, had a a single rabbit inside the village since.

---------------

Squirrels on the other hand would just come gunning for you.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-17 01:35:26 PM  

ox45tallboy: Lurk sober post drunk: squirrel are rats. fark squirrels.

Yeah, but they're cute. It's kind of like why we're not allowed to eat dog or horse in the US, but cows and pigs are okay. It's kind of arbitrary.

/and yes, I'm aware that legislation regarding horse processing for domestic consumption has recently loosened up a bit


What are you talking about? There is even have a hunting season for them if you like the taste (I do), but out of season wrecking of the garden, or chewing their way into the house earns them a pellet with their name on it.
 
2012-06-17 02:04:40 PM  

CasperImproved: What are you talking about? There is even have a hunting season for them if you like the taste (I do), but out of season wrecking of the garden, or chewing their way into the house earns them a pellet with their name on it.


I've killed and eaten squirrel a few times myself. I'm not partial to it because I think it's a lot of work skinning and cleaning the things for a tiny amount of meat. I was referring to the neighbor who complained about the mean guy shooting all the poor widdle squirrels - the neighbor wouldn't have complained if it had been a not-so-cute animal.
 
2012-06-17 02:24:18 PM  

ox45tallboy: CasperImproved: What are you talking about? There is even have a hunting season for them if you like the taste (I do), but out of season wrecking of the garden, or chewing their way into the house earns them a pellet with their name on it.

I've killed and eaten squirrel a few times myself. I'm not partial to it because I think it's a lot of work skinning and cleaning the things for a tiny amount of meat. I was referring to the neighbor who complained about the mean guy shooting all the poor widdle squirrels - the neighbor wouldn't have complained if it had been a not-so-cute animal.


I gotcha now.

And the cleaning them is not so bad... only takes me about 2.5 minutes. A deer or larger? Now that's work. I just wouldn't eat squirrel or rabbit out of season as they carry too many parasites. The cold kills the parasites or the weakened animals.
 
2012-06-17 02:31:04 PM  
Came for picture of Neil Flynn, will just have to do it my damn self.

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2012-06-17 02:37:03 PM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


What would you suggest? A .50 cal automatic or maybe a cruise missile? Maybe a small tactical nuclear weapon?

Linden, NJ? I doubt very much that he has acres of land, so one can probably safely assume that there was no great distance from him to the squirrels, therefore I doubt the squirrels lived that long.

/good for him. he should be given the key to the city. the only thing he did wrong was to hang the bodies in the tree.
//95 dead tree rats
 
2012-06-17 02:39:57 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Fissile: This guy's real problem is in the way he killed the squirrels. Under N.J. state law, BB guns are classified as firearms. I'm sure his town has laws against discharge of a firearm within city limits.

Umm, I'm no gun enthusiast, but to be a firearm, shouldn't a firearm produce fire of some kind?
Seeing that a BB gun has no firing cap or black powder of any kind, wouldn't classifying them as a firearm be an out and out lie?


The authorities seem to classify bb guns as firearms all over the place, including here in Omaha, Nebraska.
 
2012-06-17 02:48:57 PM  
I dont see the problem. He was ridding his own property of a rodent infestation. No cruelty involved. The rodents were being killed quickly. As for the idea of calling animal control for something like this: wtf are they going to do? Tell him to hire an exterminator, that is about it. Plus they would spend taxpayer money telling him that. I see the property owner as doing what any good property owner would do without wasting tax money.
 
2012-06-17 02:51:53 PM  

durbnpoisn: I actually quite like squirrels. I think they are cute. I don't even mind when they attack my bird feeders.
What I don't like are crows. Great big noisy, flying, friggin scavenger rats, is what those things are. There are times in the winter when they attack every garbage can in the neighborhood and just make a huge mess of things.
I've actually walked up to a group of them in my garbage can, and got literally 6 inches away before they finally flew off.

In related news: I once got punched by a pigeon. It was in Philadelphia after all. I shouldn't have been surprised.


Crows are incredibly intelligent and have a really good memory - so if you kill a crow, hang it off your back fence or off a pole, the rest won't come around for months..

/just sayin
 
2012-06-17 02:53:09 PM  
We have a woodchuck situation under our barn.
 
2012-06-17 02:55:56 PM  

Hermione_Granger: phenn [TotalFark] 2012-06-17 09:38:39 AM

Not sure I understand the squirrel hate. Around here, they really don't cause any dramas. Just hang out in the oak trees and scold the neighborhood cats

I was in Washington D.C. I'd spent a lovely day at the Smithsonian American History Museum and I was enjoying lunch on a park bench. A squirrel walks up to me and begs for a cheese curl. I said no. The squirrel gets closer. This thing was pretty big and reminded me of Stitch.

I throw a few cheese curls a few feet away but he doesn't see this and he wants the ones in my hand. I get up and walk away. The squirrel follows me. I walk in another direction, the squirrel continues to follow me.

I try to shoo it with my roller bag. It won't leave me alone. I finally appeal to a group of strangers to help me and it takes me and a crowd of other people to shoo the squirrel away. It still continues to watch me through some bars and a man finally decides to wait with me at the bus stop. The squirrel does not walk away entirely until I get on the bus. I half expected to see the scary bastard at my next stop.

So I hate squirrels and I despise people who feed the nasty little buggers.

Please, don't feed the squirrels.


It's fault of smokers who toss away cigarette butts. Urban squirrels will pick them up and munch on the filters. Pretty soon they get hooked on the nicotine absorbed in them, and will go out of their way to score a fix. Trust me, there's nothing more manic or depraved than a squirrel in the depths of a nicotine jones.
 
2012-06-17 02:59:26 PM  
 
2012-06-17 03:46:06 PM  
The mayor noted calling animal control is a better option.

Hardly.
 
2012-06-17 04:05:49 PM  

Ed Finnerty: rkelley25: He can't use the "stand your ground" defense, because the squirrels weren't black

He should've sprinkled crack/Skittles on the corpses.


Justice for Squirrelvon!
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2012-06-17 04:08:07 PM  
In my neighborhood (rural Central Texas, lots of steak ranches), hanging a coyote corpse across the fence is a common folk remedy for "pest control." Not sure how well it works, because there are still plenty of coyotes around. They'll sing back to you if you howl at them just right.

/Decided not to post a pic because some of you might be eating lunch
 
2012-06-17 05:08:54 PM  

Gothnet: FirstNationalBastard: Just wait until the squirrels organize...

Organize?

God dammit, that's the last thing we need, squirrel unions constantly asking for more nuts, squirrel teamsters threatening to strike and impede honest squirrel businesses from competing in the squirrel marketplace. Squirrel politicians running for squirrel president on a platform of intolerance for squirresexuals, or deporting all the black squirrels back to Canada where they came from, squirrel senators living fat off the nuts that other squirrels collect, taking bribes to ensure their buddies get all the prime trees. Squirrel congresssquirrels legislating o'squirrel-care into being, taking choice of squirrel insurance away from the average squirrel on the street, squirrel supreme court legislating from the bench about squirbortions, SPOTUS declaring war on the marmots of central asia with only the red squirrels of england for backup....

I see what you mean, the future is a scary place.


Why all the hate against squirrelocracy? Are you speciesist or something?

.
 
2012-06-17 05:37:44 PM  
MY folks ran into a similar problem after a woodpecker bore holes into their house. A water pipe froze one winter when they were out of town and flooded their entire house. After ripping open walls to dry them out, one squirrel quickly realized he had access to the warm living areas from the attic.

At first their dogs were all "SQUIRREL!!!" and would chase the little bastid. Then the dogs were like, "This squirrel has been in our house for three days. Did you adopt it?" After SEVEN DAYS, the dogs were like, "Where's our new playmate? He always hides!"

After figuring out the flight pattern, my dad caught the squirrel in a trap. When the squirrel realized, "IT'S A TRAP!" he went nuts, so my dad started beating the squirrel's paws before throwing the cage on the back patio. The animal control officer said he would relocate the squirrel two BLOCKS away. My dad wanted to go drown the bastid. Overall, squirrels have done more than $10,000 in damage to wiring and other things in and around the house. Our contractor ripped apart several walls and found nests of dead squirrels.

Since then, my dad bought BB guns and often goes out on shooting sprees. After sending this article, he was like, "Crap! I just bought a bigger BB gun!! Should I not have done that??"

Damn you squirrels. Damn you to Heck.
 
2012-06-17 06:21:13 PM  
The guy needs my neighbor! My dogs kills rabbits and squirrels pretty regularly. In fact, the one shakes them so hard the head flies off. The neighbor wanted me to the heads on spikes around our properties as a warning. I said no.

Here's my favorite squirrel story: Why the Cops Won't Patrol Brice Street
 
2012-06-17 06:35:02 PM  

Richard Saunders: Chinchillazilla:

/I like squirrels, but I was with this guy until he used peanut butter as ...

What good is a cheese-less mouse trap?


My cat has no cheese and his very presence seems to deter all but the stupidest mice.
 
2012-06-17 08:25:25 PM  
As someone who lives in the woods and has first-hand experience keeping squirrels off his birdfeeders, I can verify that they can be taught to stay out of an area by killing some of them. Displaying the bodies is needless excess, but if you shoot every one that comes in to an area the rest of them will learn quickly and teach their young to avoid the area completely. Two generations later, they will all avoid the area and teach their young to avoid the area without even knowing why. Rodents are generally very trainable, and squirrels are quite intelligent. I don't think I had to shoot more than a dozen all told. Three years later and I haven't shot a single one since, and they never go in the area I designated as a squirrel-free zone.

For the record, I eat them rather than display them. Squirrels are yummy.
 
2012-06-17 08:53:59 PM  

Balchinian: As someone who lives in the woods and has first-hand experience keeping squirrels off his birdfeeders, I can verify that they can be taught to stay out of an area by killing some of them. Displaying the bodies is needless excess, but if you shoot every one that comes in to an area the rest of them will learn quickly and teach their young to avoid the area completely. Two generations later, they will all avoid the area and teach their young to avoid the area without even knowing why. Rodents are generally very trainable, and squirrels are quite intelligent. I don't think I had to shoot more than a dozen all told. Three years later and I haven't shot a single one since, and they never go in the area I designated as a squirrel-free zone.

For the record, I eat them rather than display them. Squirrels are yummy.


==============

Squirrels are territorial. When you kill all the squirrels that roam over a certain area, it takes some time from the squirrel in adjacent territories to fill in the voids.
 
2012-06-17 10:45:43 PM  

Shirley Ujest: We have a woodchuck situation under our barn.


May sound stupid.... but try mothballs. Dump a box of them in the entrance, add a couple shovels of dirt to close, and you may never hear from Mr. Woodchuck again.

/Worked for me
//Mine dug a home out under my chimney (I live in the boonies)
///Three years later, and still gone
 
2012-06-17 11:00:07 PM  
I had squirrel problems with them chewing through my siding where knotholes had fallen out and they would nest in my walls. Try waking up before light to baby squirrels crying for food. So I bought a high-powered .22 caliber air rifle with a huge scope and started killing them off. I have an acre of land with trees on 3 sides of my house and they could easily jump from limbs to the roof or siding. My solution was to leave the gun by the slider to the deck, and when I was home I'd leave a 5 gallon bucket upside down with raw peanuts spread on top. They saw them from the trees while I cooked dinner, and I killed a ton of them. Then I left them belly up so the crows could feast on their carcasses. eventually they stopped coming near the house. Haven't seen one in two years in my yard.
 
2012-06-17 11:10:47 PM  

Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.


A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.
 
2012-06-17 11:39:11 PM  

FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.


You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,
 
2012-06-18 12:12:04 AM  

CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,


If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very different from air rifles w/ a rifled bore which shoot lead pellets. These are similar to a bb gun but not the same. Since I'm typing on a phone I'll simply have to refer you to Tom Gaylord who has a pretty good blog that explains the various differences in more detail:

http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/category/bb-guns/
 
2012-06-18 12:58:14 AM  

FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very different from air rifles w/ a rifled bo ...


I'm wiling to hear your points... but right now they are rather blunt. Since I have been using firearms to include pellet/BB guns, and you have given me zero reasons to think you know more, I will reserve judgement.

Feel free to EIP when you want to share details. Right now... I only responded with the details I grew up with.

/I will pick on any retarded terminology I see fit.
 
2012-06-18 01:21:12 AM  

CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very different from air rifles w/ a r ...


Pre-charged pneumatics are powered by high-presure air or nitrogen at 1,000-3,000 p.s.i. from a specialized hand pump or a scuba tank. They are generally the most inherently accurate type of air rifle. They come in low-powered target models all the way up to big-bore high-powered models that are suitable for big game. The blog FooDog linked to is the blog of the foremost authority on air guns in the world. If you are interested, it is quite interesting--I used to read every post he wrote, but I have been shooting firearms more these days, and only pull out the airguns on occasion.

Realistically, anything with a minimum of 5 or 6 ft/lbs on target accurate enough to hit a quarter at the desired range is suitable for tree rats. I have an RWS 54 that does the job admirably out to fifty yards or more, but since I moved to the country I haven't had any issues with the little buggers, so it has been relegated to paper punching duty.
 
2012-06-18 01:45:01 AM  
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Approves of this tactic

/underrated movie
 
2012-06-18 06:43:18 AM  

new_york_monty: CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very different from a ...


I'm good with that. Even a small life taken is still regrettable. As to terminology, F that. If I understand the use, then the words are unnecessary.

/But I do have good ways to cook the little critters so it's lose is not completely in vain.
 
2012-06-18 07:03:27 AM  

new_york_monty: CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very different from a ...


Thanks for adding to my air gun education.
 
2012-06-18 01:00:54 PM  

CasperImproved: new_york_monty: CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That makes them very ...


OK. Per your request, here's an article by Tom which provides a brief overview of different types of air guns and what separates them: http://www.pyramydair.com/article/All_about_airgun_powerplants_April_2 009/60

This article explains how PCP work in more detail: http://www.pyramydair.com/article/Introduction_to_precharged_pneumatic s_February_2009/57

As new_york_monty indicated, Tom is arguably THE authority on all things air guns related and his articles provide for some really good reading if you are interested. Enjoy!

And as far as terminology goes, I didn't bring that up as a point of contention. You did.
 
2012-06-18 01:13:15 PM  

FooDog: CasperImproved: new_york_monty: CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel balls. That ...


But dog... did you read I was thankful for the education add?

I'm guessing you didn't, and that you could have done better on this thread.
 
2012-06-18 01:29:23 PM  

CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: new_york_monty: CasperImproved: FooDog: CasperImproved: FooDog: Gothnet: If he was killing them quickly and without cruelty, I'm not sure I really see the problem.

I love animals, and abhor animal cruelty, but they were repeatedly invading the guys house, and it's not like the world is running out of squirrels any time soon. The BB gun makes me think that maybe they weren't being killed outright and fast, and may be the wrong tool for the job, but still.

A true bb gun can kill squirrels but are not powerful enough to be considered humane. An air rifle however is a completely different story. Many pump and spring loaded air rifles are powerful enough to do the job right. Pre-charged pnematic air rifles even more so w/ a number packing 30-50 ft lbs. I've heard several stories about people shooting coyotes w/ .25 cal Marauder air rifle.

You should work on your terminology. A BB gun is an air rifle. And if the ft/sec is high enough, and you fire accurately, it is likely the most humane way to die short of using drugs where you peacefully go to sleep and not wake up. But a pellet is more accurate than a BB. You should factor that into your concepts. The cheap BB/pellet guns have a low ft/sec firing capability, and therefore will often not kill on an initial shot. But even a mid-range inexpensive "air gun" can be humane.

Firearms (and pellet/BB guns) have been in my life from the age of eight. I have also qualified as expert marksman a number of times thanks to using single shot weapons when young and preferring to go home with edibles.

Not sure what you meant by "pre-charged pneumatic", but a co2 cartridge pellet/BB gun is for target/sport fun only. A pump (otherwise air charged) match style BB/pellet gun can be extremely accurate and provide a killing force with each shot,

If you have no idea what a pcp is perhaps you shouldn't pick on terminology. Bb's are indeed air guns but w/ limited powerplants, smooth bores and they shoot steel ball ...


My apologies if that was the case. I was under the impression that your comment was directed to new_york_monty.
 
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