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(Boston Herald)   Forty climate activists ripped up John's driveway yesterday   (bostonherald.com) divider line 80
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2012-06-17 07:24:22 AM  
Did 30 Helens agree this was the best course of action?

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2012-06-17 07:42:48 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Did 30 Helens agree this was the best course of action?

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Not sure, but 27 Jennifers did.
 
2012-06-17 08:40:34 AM  
That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
 
2012-06-17 08:44:25 AM  
Pavement ain't forever, libs. As evidenced by this article.
 
2012-06-17 08:49:48 AM  
What a circus.
 
2012-06-17 08:51:17 AM  
Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.
 
2012-06-17 08:52:03 AM  
Stupid is as stupid does. Depaving your driveway is not gonna help brah..just sayin
 
2012-06-17 08:52:37 AM  
Of course there's a lot of pavement in the city. It's the 17th most densely populated place in the country. 77,000 people in 4 square miles will do that to you.

Otherwise...well, I'm of the opinion that there's nothing wrong with truly doing something environmental if it actually has a positive effect (as opposed to flying around the country in a private jet talking about climate change). So good for them.
 
2012-06-17 08:52:37 AM  

tetsoushima: Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.


No pavement in a driveway? What's next? No children in a parkway?
 
2012-06-17 08:54:11 AM  
"A lot of times you don't get the chance to interact with your neighbors," Nutter, 40, said. "In this case, you have not just friends but your neighbors in your backyard. It's a really great idea."

What the hell? How about walking outside and saying hello to your neighbors. It's not that hard to get to know someone that lives next to you.
 
2012-06-17 08:54:37 AM  
www.matadorrecords.com

Really broken up about this.
 
2012-06-17 08:55:11 AM  
Meanwhile, at Walmart:
i47.tinypic.com

The article didn't say what he was going to replace his driveway with. If he puts down gravel, that is only slightly better than the pavement from a storm water runoff standpoint. If he leaves bare earth he's going to get erosion and sediment in his storm water runoff, which is bad. Also, where is that asphalt going, a landfill? He would probably have less of an environmental impact if he left the pavement and put in a storm water detention pond instead.
 
2012-06-17 08:55:33 AM  
Well first off, a driveway isn't going to hurt the environment. Secondly, if your basement is flooding maybe you should learn to build a basement, dork.
 
2012-06-17 08:55:47 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.


came for this
/leaving satisfied
 
2012-06-17 08:56:27 AM  
Mostly paved backyard? Sounds like a somewhat crappy concept to me.
 
2012-06-17 09:00:39 AM  
Pavement isn't forever, but Vinal is final.
 
2012-06-17 09:03:40 AM  
overinflated sense of ones own importance + the desire to "do good" == environmental activism.
 
2012-06-17 09:04:06 AM  
It's his land. He can do whatever he wants with it, in my opinion.

And if it helps with his flooding problem, that's great too.
 
2012-06-17 09:04:08 AM  

tetsoushima: Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.


Pavement does not allow rain to seep into the ground in small amounts and therefore enter a natural filtration process (as well as watering plants in the vicinity). Instead water flows off and collects, forcing manmade filtration and creating floods more easily.

Pavement also absorbs and radiates heat more efficiently. Enough of it and it raises the ambient temperature of an area.
 
2012-06-17 09:06:49 AM  
I don't get it either.
If runoff isn't controlled, especially in a large urban area, it can do some pretty severe damage.

/It dosen't seem like the kind of thing everyone should do.
/Urban planning and whatnot.
 
2012-06-17 09:08:36 AM  

AngryTeacher: "A lot of times you don't get the chance to interact with your neighbors," Nutter, 40, said. "In this case, you have not just friends but your neighbors in your backyard. It's a really great idea."

What the hell? How about walking outside and saying hello to your neighbors. It's not that hard to get to know someone that lives next to you.


It is when you live behind 40 locks on a door
 
2012-06-17 09:09:04 AM  

fzumrk: Meanwhile, at Walmart:
[i47.tinypic.com image 624x417]

The article didn't say what he was going to replace his driveway with. If he puts down gravel, that is only slightly better than the pavement from a storm water runoff standpoint. If he leaves bare earth he's going to get erosion and sediment in his storm water runoff, which is bad. Also, where is that asphalt going, a landfill? He would probably have less of an environmental impact if he left the pavement and put in a storm water detention pond instead.


Exactly. It is also quite likely that the bed under the asphalt is clay which is a water barrier as well, just dirtier than asphalt. Sounds to me like he was more worried about flooded basements and the city needs to improve it's drainage.
 
2012-06-17 09:10:25 AM  
I would never think about depaving my driveway. It would uncover the graves of my first three wives.
 
2012-06-17 09:17:36 AM  
Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.
 
2012-06-17 09:18:23 AM  
Damn. Can someone explain OP's headline for the culturally deprived? Thanks in advance.
 
2012-06-17 09:20:02 AM  
The ground is still compacted so there won't be any real benefit.

It's good that somebody out there figured out that paving is a problem though.
 
2012-06-17 09:21:32 AM  
basement flooding is caused by poor eaves and bad drainage around a poorly constructed basement, not by pavement.

People just can't avoid opening their mouths to spout out stupidity.
 
2012-06-17 09:24:51 AM  

EvilVanMan: Mostly paved backyard? Sounds like a somewhat crappy concept to me.


I grew up with a 90%ish paved back yard. Why? Because the ass-hat behind my parent's house pulled out all the bushes on the hill - on city land - between his house and my parent's. (He was up hill.) That meant all the rain runoff simply came down the hill, through our yard, and washed all the topsoil away. After putting in a retaining wall followed by a few attempts at trying to replace the topsoil and put grass back down, with 4 sons, they realized that wasn't going to happen and ended up paving the yard.

The positive? We had an awesome basketball half court in our yard and had some great street hockey games.

I live in the city where the guy ripped up this driveway. Yards are small and sadly a lot of people think of paving them over for off street parking. One winter of parking on the street and I'd pave my yard if it meant I didn't have to deal with that.

/Don't know him
/Don't live near him
/Not ripping up my driveway
 
2012-06-17 09:25:33 AM  

KiplingKat872: tetsoushima: Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.

Pavement does not allow rain to seep into the ground in small amounts and therefore enter a natural filtration process (as well as watering plants in the vicinity). Instead water flows off and collects, forcing manmade filtration and creating floods more easily.

Pavement also absorbs and radiates heat more efficiently. Enough of it and it raises the ambient temperature of an area.


The article would have done well to clarify those things. Also, it seems like a drastic measure for meager returns.
 
2012-06-17 09:30:14 AM  

buzzcut73: Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.


Huckleberry Finn nods with approval.
 
2012-06-17 09:35:13 AM  
Lots of biatching on this thread. Sounds like some people got together, had a good time, and ripped up a driveway. What's your problem?

Oh yeah, the "liberal environmentalist agenda". Shut up.
 
2012-06-17 09:48:05 AM  

LargeCanine: buzzcut73: Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.

Huckleberry Finn nods with approval.


That would be Tom Sawyer.
Huckleberry Finn is there with the envirofools getting some extra free food.
 
2012-06-17 09:56:42 AM  
www.toonpool.com
 
2012-06-17 10:03:12 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Did 30 Helens agree this was the best course of action?


www.comicbooked.com

Luthor will bring the refreshments next time.
 
2012-06-17 10:04:14 AM  
shiat, I *WANT* to pave my back yard. Building two patios off the house this summer. Hoping to control my drainage issues WITH a patio - move the water away from the house, and keep it from settling any more, as well as eliminate my most dire and hated enemy: Grass weeds I have to mow. :)

Charles.
 
2012-06-17 10:13:25 AM  
You mean to tell me that by not paving the gravel driveway my house came with I am doing good? SCORE!

Not really though; you can definitely tell that the ground on at least one side has been settling more; I almost broke my ankle the other day when I was putting stuff in my car and forgot that there's a dip there.
 
2012-06-17 10:14:51 AM  
shoulda painted spots and sold parking. could have made some extra cash and bought a sump pump.
 
2012-06-17 10:40:40 AM  
Opened it. Saw the stupid, journalist-thinks-he's-so-cute-and-clever headline. Closed it.

Seriously, fark these journalists. Do they take classes on forcing really stupid, painful puns? Or is it something they're all born with?
 
2012-06-17 10:40:46 AM  

Socieity of Dyslexic Hipsters: Pavement isn't forever, but Vinal is final.

 
2012-06-17 10:42:21 AM  

Allen. The end.: Lots of biatching on this thread. Sounds like some people got together, had a good time, and ripped up a driveway. What's your problem?

Oh yeah, the "liberal environmentalist agenda". Shut up.


Welcome. To. Fark.
 
2012-06-17 10:51:39 AM  

Interceptor1: The ground is still compacted so there won't be any real benefit.

It's good that somebody out there figured out that paving is a problem though.


The article said he likes to garden, so he's going to have to loosen it up.

I can relate to paving a backyard, though. Everytime I have to mow the lawn I threaten to pave it and paint it green.
 
2012-06-17 10:54:30 AM  
Maybe all of these idiots should find a cave to live in. A really deep cave and then we can seal them in.
 
2012-06-17 11:02:05 AM  
got to love it that the little girl in the picture has her hard hat on.

seriously folks, a hard hat?
 
2012-06-17 11:09:06 AM  

prjindigo: basement flooding is caused by poor eaves and bad drainage around a poorly constructed basement, not by pavement.

People just can't avoid opening their mouths to spout out stupidity.


Indeed.
 
2012-06-17 11:13:56 AM  

buzzcut73: Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.


+1
 
2012-06-17 11:19:25 AM  

Animatronik: LargeCanine: buzzcut73: Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.

Huckleberry Finn nods with approval.

That would be Tom Sawyer.
Huckleberry Finn is there with the envirofools getting some extra free food.


Doh. Yeah. Him too.
 
2012-06-17 11:30:22 AM  
Hmmm.. I have asphalt shingles on the roof that will need replaced in a few years.
Obviously it would be much better for the environment if I had a Metal roof with Photovoltaics instead. I should call some environmentalists to "Help" me with that.
I provide the location, they can take care of the rest of it. Win Win.
 
2012-06-17 11:30:51 AM  

fzumrk: The article didn't say what he was going to replace his driveway with. If he puts down gravel, that is only slightly better than the pavement from a storm water runoff standpoint. If he leaves bare earth he's going to get erosion and sediment in his storm water runoff, which is bad. Also, where is that asphalt going, a landfill? He would probably have less of an environmental impact if he left the pavement and put in a storm water detention pond instead.


Came here to post this, etc.

I could see taking up the pavement in the yard if he wanted to plant stuff, but how's that driveway going to work out when it develops wheel ruts that guide the water into his house? (depending on slope,etc.)
 
2012-06-17 11:32:17 AM  

FriarReb98: (as opposed to flying around the country in a private jet talking about climate change)


But of course, the bug-eyed British viscount can fly all he wants, 'cuz he's against ACC, amiriteoramirite?
 
2012-06-17 11:41:21 AM  
This being a Murdoch paper, they had to put that "crazy environmentalists" spin on the headline. Reading the comments, I'm surprised the readers weren't calling for him to drill for oil and strip mine his yard for coal.

The new version of conservatives are truly insane.
 
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