quickdraw: jso2897: Regarding my generation, I would say this to the young - you are wise to reflexively distrust us - but seek allies where you can find them. remember that those few of us boomers who know the score know your enemy better than you do - we've been fighting them for 45 years.

QFT
I spent my teenage years as a young lass in Hollyweird in the 70s. As far as I knew the whole country was into free love and recreational drugs. Imagine my surprise when I moved to Rhode Island at the age of 18 and people were considerably more uptight.

Fairfax High or Hollywood High?

LumpyProle: thisisyourbrainonFark: LumpyProle: steerforth: Nancy Reagan, b. 1921.

Also, Richard "War on Drugs" Nixon, b. 1913.

With his drug czar.

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A true sell-out, in every sense of the term -- though not a Boomer -- at the time of that photo.

Elvis Aaron Presley, b. 1935

I know, just pointing out the ever-present hypocrisy.

Mugato: StoneColdAtheist: You're blaming the wrong generation...boomers were just their first victims.

Victims. The boomers weren't the ones being lectured to. Their children were. Meanwhile the Boomers were the yuppies doing blow off their secretaries while they started on the record debt they were creating.

Oh...poor baby. Were your feeling hurt?

But while you're sulking, do a little research. It's not boomers who are in debt. It's you youngn's. Us boomers have jobs, own businesses, homes and equities, and are paying our way. You have a degree in something squishy, a minimum wage McJob and a shiat-pile of college loan debt. Good luck with that.

This thread meeds a little Mojo

Boudica's War Tampon: ShamWowofDamocles: Boudica's War Tampon: I shoot only the finest western slope Himalayan heroin that has been ingested then evacuated through the supple bowels of young, free-range, female snow leopards. Of course my needle is cold-drawn pure gold attached to a 23% hand-cut lead crystal.

I admire your sense of style and tradition. That said, if you ever want to go green with your heroin syringes, might I suggest a flint glass that uses titanium dioxide rather than lead?

Mainlining For Christ,

S.W.O.D.

YMMV but I find flint glass does not ring with the same pure tonal harmonies like leaded crystal does when I tap out the air bubble previous to injection. Plus I feel the crystalline structures of flint glass are microscopically too rough and induce oxygenation into my heroin.

No, no, no. All glass is amorphous, not crystalline, or else it wouldn't be glass.

snocone: jpo2269: Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.

Well, be honest, we did say no more war.
And, pretty emphaticlly.
Look where it got us.

You young fools do not get your lying sociopathic politicians in check, this will be the good old days.

No, actually, you did not "say no to war." Only to the war you would have fought in. You've been gung ho patriot yuppies in the 80s sucking Reagan's cock, and you supported all the Contra wars and CIA started wars since. Clinton and Kosovo were a nice break, finally a somewhat just moral war. But then you got over that quick enough and supported Bush, and you absolutely lost your mind during 9/11 and haven't gotten it back since. Now time is running out, and you probably won't ever see the right side of sanity again.

tl;dr: Boomers have supported wars ever since they draft dodged to get out of fighting in one.

StoneColdAtheist: But while you're sulking, do a little research. It's not boomers who are in debt. It's you youngn's. Us boomers have jobs, own businesses, homes and equities, and are paying our way. You have a degree in something squishy, a minimum wage McJob and a shiat-pile of college loan debt. Good luck with that.




No YOU'RE not in debt, we all know that. It's your kids and grandkids you have no sympathy for who are in debt. You voted yourself tax cuts and went on a spending spree after getting heavily subsidized education, inflated real estate prices to build your equity, and easy access to credit. All things your kids and grandkids will never have now, thanks to you.

ChuDogg: StoneColdAtheist: But while you're sulking, do a little research. It's not boomers who are in debt.

No YOU'RE not in debt, we all know that. It's your kids and grandkids you have no sympathy for who are in debt. You voted yourself tax cuts and went on a spending spree after getting heavily subsidized education, inflated real estate prices to build your equity, and easy access to credit. All things your kids and grandkids will never have now, thanks to you.

So you expect them to be able to increase debt by 20x-30x fold too or do you just post shiatty memes when you have nothing better to say?

snocone: Generation_D: snocone: jpo2269: Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.

Well, be honest, we did say no more war.
And, pretty emphaticlly.
Look where it got us.

You young fools do not get your lying sociopathic politicians in check, this will be the good old days.

No, actually, you did not "say no to war." Only to the war you would have fought in. You've been gung ho patriot yuppies in the 80s sucking Reagan's cock, and you supported all the Contra wars and CIA started wars since. Clinton and Kosovo were a nice break, finally a somewhat just moral war. But then you got over that quick enough and supported Bush, and you absolutely lost your mind during 9/11 and haven't gotten it back since. Now time is running out, and you probably won't ever see the right side of sanity again.

tl;dr: Boomers have supported wars ever since they draft dodged to get out of fighting in one.

That kind of stupid, narrow mindedness and unobservant gets you my special color.
Do go on.

Thats funny, I just ignore people I don't get anything out of. You on the other hand seem like you enjoy personal confrontation.

StoneColdAtheist: Mugato: StoneColdAtheist: You're blaming the wrong generation...boomers were just their first victims.

Victims. The boomers weren't the ones being lectured to. Their children were. Meanwhile the Boomers were the yuppies doing blow off their secretaries while they started on the record debt they were creating.

Oh...poor baby. Were your feeling hurt?

But while you're sulking, do a little research. It's not boomers who are in debt. It's you youngn's. Us boomers have jobs, own businesses, homes and equities, and are paying our way. You have a degree in something squishy, a minimum wage McJob and a shiat-pile of college loan debt. Good luck with that.

Well, to be fair, it was the boomers that recieved the last decent living wage before shiat started going down hill in the 70's. Since then wages have been stagnent or worse yet, they have actually gone down compared to what they were then.

In 1968 my 27 year old father was making $65 a week in Tallahassee. My mom didn't work, they rented our home, they had a good automoblie and enough money to provide a good life for us since I was their only child at the time(3yo). Today you couldn't do that on less than $800 a week. I don't know many 27yos making that kind of money wiithout a good education. Hell, I was taking home about $235 a week in 1987 and could still make it without too much effort. I was 22 years old. Unfortunately wages just havn't kept up with the cost of living.

I opened a business in 2002 that was going to help me get around that. I opened it without a dime from a bank either. After 6 years and tens of thousands put back into it, the economic collapse of 2008 claimed it as well as many others around it. I now have nothing and there's little hope of making enough to survive without working two jobs. Something has got to change.

PawisBetlog: FirstNationalBastard: Well, the pendulum has swung back the other way.

...I doubt they'll ever vote for legalization of any kind, though. Bastards.

THIS. Farking hypocrisy is the only constant with this group.

ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY EFFECTIVE BIRTH CONTROL (or sex with boys from the Dominican Republic)
JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS (but my Xanax and OxyContin are A-OK)
LOWER TAXES TO SPUR GROWTH (my profligate welfare in the form of mortgage deductions and capital gains is all good though)
NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR UNIONS (corporations sticking it to the working class to keep my capital gains up, well that's different)


what the hell drugs do u want. crack? heroin?? farking junkie

draa: StoneColdAtheist: Mugato: StoneColdAtheist: You're blaming the wrong generation...boomers were just their first victims.

Victims. The boomers weren't the ones being lectured to. Their children were. Meanwhile the Boomers were the yuppies doing blow off their secretaries while they started on the record debt they were creating.

Oh...poor baby. Were your feeling hurt?

But while you're sulking, do a little research. It's not boomers who are in debt. It's you youngn's. Us boomers have jobs, own businesses, homes and equities, and are paying our way. You have a degree in something squishy, a minimum wage McJob and a shiat-pile of college loan debt. Good luck with that.

Well, to be fair, it was the boomers that recieved the last decent living wage before shiat started going down hill in the 70's. Since then wages have been stagnent or worse yet, they have actually gone down compared to what they were then.

In 1968 my 27 year old father was making $65 a week in Tallahassee. My mom didn't work, they rented our home, they had a good automoblie and enough money to provide a good life for us since I was their only child at the time(3yo). Today you couldn't do that on less than $800 a week. I don't know many 27yos making that kind of money wiithout a good education. Hell, I was taking home about $235 a week in 1987 and could still make it without too much effort. I was 22 years old. Unfortunately wages just havn't kept up with the cost of living.

I opened a business in 2002 that was going to help me get around that. I opened it without a dime from a bank either. After 6 years and tens of thousands put back into it, the economic collapse of 2008 claimed it as well as many others around it. I now have nothing and there's little hope of making enough to survive without working two jobs. Something has got to change.

Wealth is being created but it is also being concentrated. That is what has to change. But it won't. Romney will be elected and tax cuts for the rich and unfunded war will both return.

imnotadoctor: FTFA: "... Jim Hall, director of Nova's Center for the Study and Prevention of Substance Abuse."

So you dismiss a claim made by the director of a center that studies substance abuse as being speculative and illogical, and then procede to pull a completely hypothetical scenario out of your arse as being the only plausible explanation. Brilliant!! Science - How does it work?

Ah the old "argument by authority" in support of an old wives tale. A little googling shows that the "Center for the Study and Prevention of Substance Abuse" is not considered by Nova University to be a part of it and Jim Hall is not on the faculty at Nova.

In fact, the "Center" is claimed to be a partnership of 8 different organizations, it has no employees listed other than the director Jim Hall, who doesn't have a MD or PHD, and the contact address for the Center is an AOL email.

Yeah, that really convinces me to believe whatever Jim Hall says just because he says it.

Perhaps the 'Boomers' are stealing the drugs from their children and grandchildren who are still living with or have moved back in with them.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that the generation of "Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll" is having issues with drugs.

/// Shocked, I tell you!

ChuDogg: So you expect them to be able to increase debt by 20x-30x fold too or do you just post shiatty memes when you have nothing better to say?

No, I expect them to man up and take charge of their own future. Every generation blames the one before it, but the persistent two-faced butthurt from Gen-whatevers on Fark gets tiresome. So do what I did at your age: pay off your debt (it took 25% of my pay for a decade to retire my and my wife's college debt); save up a down payment on a house once the debt is retired, then keep saving and investing that 25% until your kids' (if you have any) education is prepaid, then start on your retirement fund. I will continue to max my retirement accts until age 71 to get the most in before I have to start drawing.

In the meantime, we've prepaid our first grandkid's education, started on the second and started a business in our mid-50s. If you feel you were somehow cheated out of a life of leisure you really still have some growing to do. And if you don't like your parents and are vocal about it, just make sure you're doing a better job, or you're nothing but a two-faced hypocrite.

Rapid rise in baby boomer drug addicts reported. So, where's that "Just Say No" crap at now, grandpa?

FTFY, Subby

Kids today, no GD grammar skills at all. What's next? Sally has two Mommies? A negro in the White House? Dogs and Cats living together?

Now, get off my 1,800 acre lawn

StoneColdAtheist: Every generation blames the one before it, but the persistent two-faced butthurt from Gen-whatevers on Fark gets tiresome.

Um, no. Projection doesn't get the Baby Boomers off the hook. The Boomers would like to think this is just another case of young blaming the old, but there's a bit of a problem -- being threatened by one's progeny is a Boomer characteristic. Most normal parents wish their children are better off than themselves.

Mugato: MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.

She was their mouthpiece.

This. Yet another case of Boomers deflecting blame. The Boomers weren't young whippersnappers in the 80s -- the ones born in '46 were in their 30s forcrissakes; that's a tad late for TGG to use politics to control their children. Plus the sheer number of Boomers (they're called BABY BOOMERS for a reason) means deflecting blame for any voting patterns is a tad difficult.

You still don't have to look far to find material cocksucking the Reagan administration. The glow has faded off that POS so it's predictable that some Boomers want to distance themselves from that clusterfark, but back when Reagan was worshipped like a god, the Boomers were VERY intent on making everyone in the world know how awesome they were for electing that senile bastard.

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For the thousandth time, this isn't about you. It's about historic trends: simply speaking, your generation historically enjoyed the most prosperity, spent it, and subsequent generations are paying down the debt. As a result, by all quantitative benchmarks they are the first generation in American history worse off than their parents.

Nobody's whining about it, it would just help to acknowledge it.

ChuDogg: StoneColdAtheist: ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!

Nobody's whining about it, it would just help to acknowledge it.

Yes you are...

dragonchild: . Plus the sheer number of Boomers (they're called BABY BOOMERS for a reason) means deflecting blame for any voting patterns is a tad difficult.

This is really what it's all about. It's not that boomers were more spoiled than everyone else, every generation would have their share of assholes, it's just that there were so many they created a population glut as they moved through society. Thus society mirrored their wants and desires in policy and opinion over anyone else, especially those that would come after them. Thus we have the rapid debt beginning in the 80s as they became homeowners and businessman and desired easy access to credit and building equity.

It does help though that their sheer numbers creates an echo chamber for them and a self feedback loop. I was at a business seminar recently about generational differences in the workplace, a few people were selected to represent each generation and talk about various things ascribed to them, both positive and negative. The people selected to represented the boomers couldn't identify what the "Me Generation" was about on their worksheet. They were so self adsorbed through their entire life they never heard their generation being described that way by either their parents or their children. They actually said they think that got on the wrong generation and then sat their talking about they were the "hardworking generation".

StoneColdAtheist:
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Ohhh another shiatty meme for a response. Welcome to the internet!

Yes you are...

Yeahno, why don't you go find where I mentioned about my personal situation in this thread? Better yet, post another picture. That will surely recognize your brilliance.

The government will eventually legalize everything as soon as they find a way to tax it.

ChuDogg: Yeahno, why don't you go find where I mentioned about my personal situation in this thread?

If you mean other than your self pitying diatribe about how boomers don't "get" your generation in the workplace, I'm not seeing it in this thread.

I, for one, am shocked and appalled to learn that the generation that exploded the use of marijuana and LSD in the 60s, popularized cocaine and quaaludes in the 70s and 80s, took antidepressants and their kids' ecstasy in the 90s, abused prescription opiates and barbiturates in the 00s, and can currently be found spending their early retirement opening bars across the country before noon on weekdays, might just have a drug problem.

JadedRaverLA: I, for one, am shocked and appalled to learn that the generation that exploded the use of marijuana and LSD in the 60s, popularized cocaine and quaaludes in the 70s and 80s, took antidepressants and their kids' ecstasy in the 90s, abused prescription opiates and barbiturates in the 00s, and can currently be found spending their early retirement opening bars across the country before noon on weekdays, might just have a drug problem.

What, you weren't around while TGG smoked like a chimney afire and drank like they were trying to put it out?

StoneColdAtheist: ChuDogg: Yeahno, why don't you go find where I mentioned about my personal situation in this thread?

If you mean other than your self pitying diatribe about how boomers don't "get" your generation in the workplace, I'm not seeing it in this thread.

You know you want so desperately to be the wise old sage looking down upon your progeny being whiny and lazy, perhaps from seeing that response from the generations preceding you. Unfortunately you will never have that feeling, as we don't look at you as clueless or out of touch, nor did I mention any self pitying diatribe about how you don't "get" us. We said you were self adsorbed, just like the previous generation did. That's why every one of your posts is personal as we try to discuss these historic trends. I don't think you're even capable of discussing something without making it personal.

ChuDogg: StoneColdAtheist: ChuDogg: Yeahno, why don't you go find where I mentioned about my personal situation in this thread?

If you mean other than your self pitying diatribe about how boomers don't "get" your generation in the workplace, I'm not seeing it in this thread.

You know you want so desperately to be the wise old sage looking down upon your progeny being whiny and lazy, perhaps from seeing that response from the generations preceding you. Unfortunately you will never have that feeling, as we don't look at you as clueless or out of touch, nor did I mention any self pitying diatribe about how you don't "get" us. We said you were self adsorbed, just like the previous generation did. That's why every one of your posts is personal as we try to discuss these historic trends. I don't think you're even capable of discussing something without making it personal.

Look again at what you wrote. Where is your "personal situation" in that?

StoneColdAtheist: JadedRaverLA: I, for one, am shocked and appalled to learn that the generation that exploded the use of marijuana and LSD in the 60s, popularized cocaine and quaaludes in the 70s and 80s, took antidepressants and their kids' ecstasy in the 90s, abused prescription opiates and barbiturates in the 00s, and can currently be found spending their early retirement opening bars across the country before noon on weekdays, might just have a drug problem.

What, you weren't around while TGG smoked like a chimney afire and drank like they were trying to put it out?

No, I wasn't. But I wasn't trying to make a value judgment -- just pointing out the obvious. I have no problem with either group doing whatever the fark they want.

Those stupid PSA's never worked anyway.

Mugato: You're somewhat immature for an old fart.

Maybe so, but I'm mature enough to pay my own debts. Mature enough to provide for my progeny's education and productive start in life. Mature enough to provide for my own retirement. And mature enough to not coddle your generation as if you were some sort of special snowflake that needs shielding from reality. When you (pl) see your way to that you'll be on your way to forging your own future.

StoneColdAtheist: Mugato: You're somewhat immature for an old fart.

Maybe so, but I'm mature enough to pay my own debts. Mature enough to provide for my progeny's education and productive start in life. Mature enough to provide for my own retirement. And mature enough to not coddle your generation as if you were some sort of special snowflake that needs shielding from reality. When you (pl) see your way to that you'll be on your way to forging your own future.

I'm a pole and so can you!

1964 just really seems too late to be a boomer. My brother was born in 1963 and just really has absolutely nothing in common with someone born in 1946. I really think the boomer age had to be over around 1955 or so.

"The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25."

Any article that prints this without comment isn't worth reading. Pure, uncut horseshiat.

There is no draft.
And I should live long enough to see GenXers screw things up.

/crap!