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(Sun Sentinel)   Rapid rise in baby boomer drug addicts reported. So, where's that "Just Say No" crap at now, grandpa?   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 162
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2012-06-17 10:15:34 AM
supageil: What a sad generation.

Truly. I used to be angry at the Boomers, for engaging in a maneuver best described by another Farker as "climbing a ladder put down for them by their parents, then pulling it up after them, leaving younger folks stranded".

But now that I see them getting truly old, the myopic self-obsession in which they've always been trapped just makes me feel pity.

It's not to say that I don't look forward to the day when they're mostly dead or marginalized. That generation's best work was finished thirty years ago, but unlike prior generations that were happy to pass the mic, Boomers managed to more than double their social airtime with sheer selfishness and numbers. They've made an entire country "about" them, to serve them, even to cater to exactly how they'd like to contribute back to it. It's astonishing, really.

This nation prospered with them for a time, but it's been held back by them for even longer, and the younger generations are facing being stunted for lack of space. In the next ten years, the Boomers will be fading. It's a relief for those of us who feared they'd find a way to demand and be granted eternal life, along with everything else they've strongarmed from the world.

But I do feel sorry for them lately. They feel the spotlight moving on to someone else, and "their" world changing without their permission, and they're so angry and bewildered about it. They're going to grow old as gracelessly as a marginalized old Hollywood diva, never understanding why others have to have needs when theirs are so very important.

And never realizing that they missed a core beauty of living in this world, which involves being able to truly think of others first, and humble oneself before a larger picture.



I read that as Johnny Depp as Hunter S. Thompson.
 
2012-06-17 10:16:07 AM
Boudica's War Tampon: YMMV but I find flint glass does not ring with the same pure tonal harmonies like leaded crystal does when I tap out the air bubble previous to injection. Plus I feel the crystalline structures of flint glass are microscopically too rough and induce oxygenation into my heroin.

I agree with everything you typed. There's always a "cost" when choosing the eco-friendly alternative. Electric cars lack the horsepower and range of gas vehicles.

Your current method for enjoying heroin is ideal. My comments were floated out for consideration if (and only if) you ever wanted to go green.
 
2012-06-17 10:16:21 AM
sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.


My father disowned me because I had the gall to assert that Tea Partiers are blathering idiots. This, after a lifetime of physical and mental abuse that he, to this day, refuses to acknowledge, insisting that I am a pathological liar. Over the course of his most recent outburst, he stalked and confronted several of my friends to "correct" their views of him.

I haven't much cared for my father since I grew the balls to leave at the age of fifteen, and that was seventeen years ago. My boomer father can go find a shallow grave and remain forgotten.

I never met my maternal grandfather, but my paternal grandfather was an okay guy -- he's been dead for about twenty years.

So, no thanks... I think I'll sit on my butt and watch some movies today.
 
2012-06-17 10:18:35 AM
HairBolus: FTFA: "The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25." This sounds like an old wives tale. Is there any research to back this up?

What is probably true is that if someone has a bad addiction to alcohol or drugs as a teenager they also are likely to be addicted to something late in life. I don't know if there is any research on whether such early addicts who become "clean" during their middle life revert in later years.


plenty of research, but lots of confounding. there's addictive genes, traumatic childhoods, socioeconomic factors, etc. but yeah ignoring causation, the correlation between a 12-year-old drinking whiskey and later drug/alcohol problems is there. especially in a nation where we try to ban alcohol in any amount in the young. the question is really, why are they drinking/drugging so young?
 
2012-06-17 10:19:13 AM
HairBolus: FTFA: "The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25." This sounds like an old wives tale. Is there any research to back this up?

What is probably true is that if someone has a bad addiction to alcohol or drugs as a teenager they also are likely to be addicted to something late in life. I don't know if there is any research on whether such early addicts who become "clean" during their middle life revert in later years.


There is lots of bad research and worse science to interpret pretty any which way you wish.
Kinda like Climate Science, actual Knowledge of Humans is just poking sticks into the dark.

/the observation and information gathering stage is a poor place to stop and prognosticate
// is a reliable symptom of criminal profit taking or stupid social engineering attempts
 
2012-06-17 10:20:34 AM
The key is to find a very aggressive liver antagonist so you can get off this planet you farked up and leave us to our misery.
 
2012-06-17 10:23:40 AM
PawisBetlog: sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.

My Dad did his 30 years with the Air Force as a civilian worker after being drafted in the late 60s, lives within his means on his retirement, and smokes the weed responsibly, so he is awesome and not part of the generalization I made above. He didn't focus on getting his above all else, he focused on family, making sure we had vacations every year and some sense of responsibility as best he was able to teach it. As a result we are all the closer for it.

\Thanks Dad!


My Dad is too old to be a Boomer ( born during WWII ) but he's pretty cool. However, some of his younger siblings are pretty narcissistic, and they pretty much fulfill the "Me-Generation" Boomer stereotype...

\ I have no idea why that is, given that everyone involved has the same parents...
 
2012-06-17 10:24:03 AM
jso2897: ghare: The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.

Oh, horseshiat. The young are exactly the same as we were when we were young - namely, young. Youth is what it is - it has it's strengths and weaknesses, and it's part of the human condition. Deal with it


As soon as they decide to realize that they aren't perfect and start taking a little responsibility for their massive failures instead of whining about boomers, I will. ESPECIALLY if they'll start voting. Hopefully they learned in 2010 that elections occur every 2 years, not just every 4.

/whiny self-centered little gits.
 
2012-06-17 10:25:22 AM
Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.
 
2012-06-17 10:26:18 AM
Happy Father's Day, ya whiny little biatches
 
2012-06-17 10:26:57 AM
steerforth: Nancy Reagan, b. 1921.

Also, Richard "War on Drugs" Nixon, b. 1913.
 
2012-06-17 10:28:38 AM
jso2897: A word for all you young folk who are here to trash us boomers - i will listen happily, but I'd like to ask you a small favor in return.
Do you think y'all might be able to find the time to start, you know,
F**KING VOTING!?!?!?!?
And don't try to tell me you do - I've read the stats.
kthnxby.


...why do you want them to vote? They're idiots.
 
2012-06-17 10:29:13 AM
ghare: As soon as they decide to realize that they aren't perfect and start taking a little responsibility for their massive failures instead of whining about boomers, I will

One can take responsibility and try to change things and still give credit for this mess where credit is due. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
 
2012-06-17 10:29:54 AM
jpo2269: Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.

They said no to good taste. But never, apparently, to french fries and Ben and Jerry's.
 
2012-06-17 10:30:33 AM
LOL...good to see all the boomer hate come spilling out from the ignoramuses who think Just Say No was a boomer program.

You idiots. That was The Greatest Generation's response to all the boomers toking up and spouting "make love, not war" slogans, playing loud rock-n-roll music and generally telling TGG to take their uptight racist and sexist attitudes and shoving it up their collective assholes.
 
2012-06-17 10:30:50 AM
Mouser: jso2897: A word for all you young folk who are here to trash us boomers - i will listen happily, but I'd like to ask you a small favor in return.
Do you think y'all might be able to find the time to start, you know,
F**KING VOTING!?!?!?!?
And don't try to tell me you do - I've read the stats.
kthnxby.

...why do you want them to vote? They're idiots.


Yes, but they are YOUNG idiots, and their votes are needed to cancel out the votes of old idiots. Anyway - no vote, no biatch.
 
2012-06-17 10:31:10 AM
jpo2269: Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.

Sorry. Redux.

1.bp.blogspot.com

They said no to good taste. But never, apparently, to french fries and Ben and Jerry's.
 
2012-06-17 10:33:10 AM
A Fark Handle: HairBolus: FTFA: "The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25." This sounds like an old wives tale. Is there any research to back this up?

What is probably true is that if someone has a bad addiction to alcohol or drugs as a teenager they also are likely to be addicted to something late in life. I don't know if there is any research on whether such early addicts who become "clean" during their middle life revert in later years.

plenty of research, but lots of confounding. ... the correlation between a 12-year-old drinking whiskey and later drug/alcohol problems is there. ...


True, but the FTFA old wives tale doesn't distinguish between a 12 year old who has had 1 taste of whiskey vs a 12 year old alcoholic.
 
2012-06-17 10:33:25 AM
jso2897: A word for all you young folk who are here to trash us boomers - i will listen happily, but I'd like to ask you a small favor in return.
Do you think y'all might be able to find the time to start, you know,
F**KING VOTING!?!?!?!?
And don't try to tell me you do - I've read the stats.
kthnxby.


Young people DO vote. It's part of why Obama won in 2008, and a huge part of why Texas' voter ID laws specifically prohibits college IDs for voting purposes.
 
2012-06-17 10:34:23 AM
supageil: What a sad generation.

Truly. I used to be angry at the Boomers, for engaging in a maneuver best described by another Farker as "climbing a ladder put down for them by their parents, then pulling it up after them, leaving younger folks stranded".

But now that I see them getting truly old, the myopic self-obsession in which they've always been trapped just makes me feel pity.

It's not to say that I don't look forward to the day when they're mostly dead or marginalized. That generation's best work was finished thirty years ago, but unlike prior generations that were happy to pass the mic, Boomers managed to more than double their social airtime with sheer selfishness and numbers. They've made an entire country "about" them, to serve them, even to cater to exactly how they'd like to contribute back to it. It's astonishing, really.

This nation prospered with them for a time, but it's been held back by them for even longer, and the younger generations are facing being stunted for lack of space. In the next ten years, the Boomers will be fading. It's a relief for those of us who feared they'd find a way to demand and be granted eternal life, along with everything else they've strongarmed from the world.

But I do feel sorry for them lately. They feel the spotlight moving on to someone else, and "their" world changing without their permission, and they're so angry and bewildered about it. They're going to grow old as gracelessly as a marginalized old Hollywood diva, never understanding why others have to have needs when theirs are so very important.

And never realizing that they missed a core beauty of living in this world, which involves being able to truly think of others first, and humble oneself before a larger picture.


images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-17 10:35:33 AM
StoneColdAtheist: You idiots. That was The Greatest Generation's response to all the boomers toking up and spouting "make love, not war" slogans, playing loud rock-n-roll music and generally telling TGG to take their uptight racist and sexist attitudes and shoving it up their collective assholes.

Does anyone read a thread before posting?

Again, of course the people in power were older but the people that supported them and voted them in were Boomers. I don't think any Boomers had McGruff the crime dog come to their elementary school and start lecturing them not to do the same shiat their parents did but stopped doing, suddenly making it wrong for the next generation.
 
2012-06-17 10:35:50 AM
jso2897: Regarding my generation, I would say this to the young - you are wise to reflexively distrust us - but seek allies where you can find them. remember that those few of us boomers who know the score know your enemy better than you do - we've been fighting them for 45 years.

QFT
I spent my teenage years as a young lass in Hollyweird in the 70s. As far as I knew the whole country was into free love and recreational drugs. Imagine my surprise when I moved to Rhode Island at the age of 18 and people were considerably more uptight.
 
2012-06-17 10:36:40 AM
Forbidden Doughnut: So it's this thread again?

/ collectively speaking, I'm not real fond of the Baby Boomers
// I'll get my popcorn.....


/// derp
 
2012-06-17 10:36:57 AM
StoneColdAtheist: LOL...good to see all the boomer hate come spilling out from the ignoramuses who think Just Say No was a boomer program.

You idiots. That was The Greatest Generation's response to all the boomers toking up and spouting "make love, not war" slogans, playing loud rock-n-roll music and generally telling TGG to take their uptight racist and sexist attitudes and shoving it up their collective assholes.


Yeah, because that was totally still going on in the 80's, when "Just Say No" and D.A.R.E. made their debuts. Boomers had sold out to corporate America by the 80's, or become worthless junkies; the backlash was aimed squarely at the hard substance abusers prevalent in the Gen X crowd. You can certainly make the argument that TGG came up with the ideas, but they weren't the driving force -- the boomers did that, and they still are.
 
2012-06-17 10:38:49 AM
FTFA: "The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25."

Methinks this Hall fella (Jim Hall, director of Nova's Center for the Study and Prevention of Substance Abuse) knows a bit more than he might be letting on. Anyone who uses the word "Toke" has been in a circle once or twice... Just sayin...
 
2012-06-17 10:39:46 AM
jpo2269: Wrong generation SUBTARD. As someone on this thread already said, the Boomers never said "no" to anything.

Well, be honest, we did say no more war.
And, pretty emphaticlly.
Look where it got us.

You young fools do not get your lying sociopathic politicians in check, this will be the good old days.
 
2012-06-17 10:41:26 AM
HairBolus: FTFA: "The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25." This sounds like an old wives tale. Is there any research to back this up?

What is probably true is that if someone has a bad addiction to alcohol or drugs as a teenager they also are likely to be addicted to something late in life. I don't know if there is any research on whether such early addicts who become "clean" during their middle life revert in later years.


FTFA: "... Jim Hall, director of Nova's Center for the Study and Prevention of Substance Abuse."

So you dismiss a claim made by the director of a center that studies substance abuse as being speculative and illogical, and then procede to pull a completely hypothetical scenario out of your arse as being the only plausible explanation. Brilliant!! Science - How does it work?
 
2012-06-17 10:41:39 AM
ghare: The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.

Define "lazy losers" would that be those who refuse to just go along with the same corporate slave mentality indoctrination that the previous generations did? This big dumb experiment didn't last as long as people think in their minds it has. Sorry you don't like those who are awakened to more than must "man made life as you know it"
 
2012-06-17 10:42:05 AM
Anything that makes them die faster is super-duper fine with me.
 
2012-06-17 10:44:44 AM
LumpyProle: steerforth: Nancy Reagan, b. 1921.

Also, Richard "War on Drugs" Nixon, b. 1913.


With his drug czar.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-17 10:46:39 AM
ghare: The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.

You mean the selfish, petty, spoiled arse holes were bad parents?
Yes, we know that.
 
2012-06-17 10:47:14 AM
Mugato: StoneColdAtheist: You idiots. That was The Greatest Generation's response to all the boomers toking up and spouting "make love, not war" slogans, playing loud rock-n-roll music and generally telling TGG to take their uptight racist and sexist attitudes and shoving it up their collective assholes.

Does anyone read a thread before posting?

Again, of course the people in power were older but the people that supported them and voted them in were Boomers. I don't think any Boomers had McGruff the crime dog come to their elementary school and start lecturing them not to do the same shiat their parents did but stopped doing, suddenly making it wrong for the next generation.


By your reasoning, generation X is responsible for George W Bush, the invasion of Iraq and various pokings and proddings due to the Patriot Act.

Sounds like McGruff poked you once too often.
 
2012-06-17 10:49:53 AM
wmoonfox: Steve Zodiac: Boomers never said "No", nor did they want to. They wanted everyone ELSE to 'Just Say No'.

That.

MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.

I'm pretty sure the cops and school officials who pushed it on me in grade-school were solidly middle-aged boomers. I have a hard time believing that Nancy Reagan was the on in the McGruff the Crime Dog costume.


The cops and school officials were paid to do their jobs. Jobs which were defined by the people in power at the time who (much like now) were in their 60s and 70s. People commonly called "the greatest generation" a label they humbly placed on themselves.

It is natural for every generation to feel oppressed by the one before it but many of the liberties you take for granted had to be fought for. When I was a kid in the 60s women wearing blue jeans, a couple living together out of wedlock, or a man with facial hair were considered very shocking and there were awful consequences.

The Boomers do love their drugs. Always have. Always will and the most dedicated of them have spent decades trying to get pot legal.
 
2012-06-17 10:50:35 AM
Mugato: StoneColdAtheist: You idiots. That was The Greatest Generation's response to all the boomers toking up and spouting "make love, not war" slogans, playing loud rock-n-roll music and generally telling TGG to take their uptight racist and sexist attitudes and shoving it up their collective assholes.

Does anyone read a thread before posting?

Again, of course the people in power were older but the people that supported them and voted them in were Boomers. I don't think any Boomers had McGruff the crime dog come to their elementary school and start lecturing them not to do the same shiat their parents did but stopped doing, suddenly making it wrong for the next generation.


You're really obsessed with McGruff, aren't you. Here's a tap from the cluestick for you, McGruff was created by the ad firm of Saatchi & Saatchi, owned and operated by members of the "Greatest Generation" and Jack Keil (also not a Boomer) was the voice of McGruff. McGruff was never part of the "Just Say No" campaign, he was created as an anti-crime cartoon icon and his byline was "take a bite out of crime."

But, do go on.
 
2012-06-17 10:55:57 AM
quickdraw: wmoonfox: Steve Zodiac: Boomers never said "No", nor did they want to. They wanted everyone ELSE to 'Just Say No'.

That.

MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.

I'm pretty sure the cops and school officials who pushed it on me in grade-school were solidly middle-aged boomers. I have a hard time believing that Nancy Reagan was the on in the McGruff the Crime Dog costume.

The cops and school officials were paid to do their jobs. Jobs which were defined by the people in power at the time who (much like now) were in their 60s and 70s. People commonly called "the greatest generation" a label they humbly placed on themselves.

It is natural for every generation to feel oppressed by the one before it but many of the liberties you take for granted had to be fought for. When I was a kid in the 60s women wearing blue jeans, a couple living together out of wedlock, or a man with facial hair were considered very shocking and there were awful consequences.

The Boomers do love their drugs. Always have. Always will and the most dedicated of them have spent decades trying to get pot legal.


BTW, shortsight, everybody loves drugs.
/makes the world go 'round
 
2012-06-17 10:56:24 AM
Watch PBS's My Lai. It pretty much tells the story of two very separate points of view at the boomers' apex. Escalation does strange things to people's core values.
 
2012-06-17 10:57:25 AM
Fark U: ghare: The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.

Define "lazy losers" would that be those who refuse to just go along with the same corporate slave mentality indoctrination that the previous generations did? This big dumb experiment didn't last as long as people think in their minds it has. Sorry you don't like those who are awakened to more than must "man made life as you know it"


WTF makes you think I go along with corporate mentality, you ignorant, whiny little brat? I was anti-corporate and fight-the-power before you were born.
 
2012-06-17 10:58:46 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Happy Father's Day, ya whiny little biatches

Thankyou! Now where the hell is my ribeye,Shiner,and bong?
You know I don't like waiting!
 
2012-06-17 11:05:22 AM
steerforth: By your reasoning, generation X is responsible for George W Bush, the invasion of Iraq and various pokings and proddings due to the Patriot Act.

The Boomers are still the largest voting block but you know that.

MAYORBOB: You're really obsessed with McGruff, aren't you

Um, I mentioned it once. I think you forgot your crazy pills.
 
2012-06-17 11:11:16 AM
"Just Say No" was uncle sam propaganda out of WashDC, subby. but any reason to incite Boomer Hate Thread is always good fark. Overlook who is behind the curtain and blame the masses.
 
2012-06-17 11:14:32 AM
Mugato: steerforth: By your reasoning, generation X is responsible for George W Bush, the invasion of Iraq and various pokings and proddings due to the Patriot Act.

The Boomers are still the largest voting block but you know that.

MAYORBOB: You're really obsessed with McGruff, aren't you

Um, I mentioned it once. I think you forgot your crazy pills.


If you mentioned it once in this thread, you mentioned it a couple of times. But you knew that.
 
2012-06-17 11:17:42 AM
The dead have always bothered the living.
 
2012-06-17 11:18:38 AM
Don't blame me! I voted for Kodos (in 1980)!
 
2012-06-17 11:19:01 AM
wmoonfox: StoneColdAtheist: That was The Greatest Generation

Yeah, because that was totally still going on in the 80's, when "Just Say No" and D.A.R.E. made their debuts. Boomers had sold out to corporate America by the 80's, or become worthless junkies; the backlash was aimed squarely at the hard substance abusers prevalent in the Gen X crowd. You can certainly make the argument that TGG came up with the ideas, but they weren't the driving force -- the boomers did that, and they still are.


Speaking of selling out, aren't you the same "wmoonfox" who whines in other threads about how the boomers won't retire/die off so you can take over their job? Yeah...um hmm, thought so. How's that willing self-slavitude working for you?

Oh by the way, the "war on drugs" got started looonngg before the 80's. It really got cranked up in the mid-60's when TGG got irritated at their offspring for toking up in front of the cameras at anti-war demonstrations. I mean, shiat...it was bad enough that messicans and blacks smoked the evil weed, but when their lily white rebellious children started doing it...well, that was simply too much. Something, something...the next thing you know smooth talking African men were talking pretty white 197-year olds into dropping their pants in the Island Paradise.

Tricky Dick then give it his imprimatur (and its name) in a 1971 speech, and the rest is history.

And no, it wasn't boomers who sent McGruff into your grade school. TGG was still in charge. Truman and Ike weren't really TGG members, but they played pivotal roles in WW2 and certainly identified with TGG. Moreover, TGG or their like-minded mentors held the White House from April of 1945 (when FDR died) until Bill Clinton was sworn in in January of 1993...nearly 50 years of Father Knows Best attitudes.

You're blaming the wrong generation...boomers were just their first victims.
 
2012-06-17 11:19:35 AM
crazyeddie: So, where's that "Just Say No" crap at now, grandpa?

Idiots everywhere,

Please stop doing this. Please stop beginning a question or phrase with "Where...." and then ending same said phrase with "...at." It's redundant, it's a poor construction, and it makes you sound functionally retarded.

Sincerely,
People who are better than you.


Oh yeah? Who combines a backwoods contraction of "It's" with an Oxford comma? Then tosses in an insensitive "retarded" before expressing superiority.

/I couldn't decide to post a pic of Larry Miller's Seinfeld doorman or Edward G. Robinson's Dathan.
 
2012-06-17 11:19:40 AM
King Something: jso2897: A word for all you young folk who are here to trash us boomers - i will listen happily, but I'd like to ask you a small favor in return.
Do you think y'all might be able to find the time to start, you know,
F**KING VOTING!?!?!?!?
And don't try to tell me you do - I've read the stats.
kthnxby.

Young people DO vote. It's part of why Obama won in 2008, and a huge part of why Texas' voter ID laws specifically prohibits college IDs for voting purposes.


Well, they need to vote more. The actual stats, particularly in mid-terms (which are important, dammit!) are f**king appalling. And people are going to have to work around the inconveniences - the voter-discouragement laws can't be struck down until they have been enforced (with a few exceptions), and most of them will stand for this election. it's unconstitutional, and an outrage - but obstacles can be overcome - and it is crucially important.
 
2012-06-17 11:20:10 AM
So what? They're old. Eventually they'll die just like everyone else, just maybe a little sooner if they OD.

/What, you expected your inheritance not to go up grandpa's nose? Get over yourself.
 
2012-06-17 11:20:11 AM
thisisyourbrainonFark: LumpyProle: steerforth: Nancy Reagan, b. 1921.

Also, Richard "War on Drugs" Nixon, b. 1913.

With his drug czar.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 531x411]


A true sell-out, in every sense of the term -- though not a Boomer -- at the time of that photo.

Elvis Aaron Presley, b. 1935
 
2012-06-17 11:23:39 AM
197-year olds = 17-year olds
 
2012-06-17 11:25:05 AM
StoneColdAtheist: You're blaming the wrong generation...boomers were just their first victims.

Victims. The boomers weren't the ones being lectured to. Their children were. Meanwhile the Boomers were the yuppies doing blow off their secretaries while they started on the record debt they were creating.
 
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