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(Sun Sentinel)   Rapid rise in baby boomer drug addicts reported. So, where's that "Just Say No" crap at now, grandpa?   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 162
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2012-06-17 07:54:28 AM
Well, the pendulum has swung back the other way.

...I doubt they'll ever vote for legalization of any kind, though. Bastards.
 
2012-06-17 08:25:43 AM
Boomers never said "No", nor did they want to. They wanted everyone ELSE to 'Just Say No'.
 
2012-06-17 09:08:02 AM
Do as I say not as I do is still the baby boomer credo.
 
2012-06-17 09:11:05 AM
Dine and dash motherfarkers.
 
2012-06-17 09:23:27 AM
Thankfully it's much harder to chew off a face while on bath salts when you don't have any teeth.
 
2012-06-17 09:25:12 AM
I shoot only the finest western slope Himalayan heroin that has been ingested then evacuated through the supple bowels of young, free-range, female snow leopards. Of course my needle is cold-drawn pure gold attached to a 23% hand-cut lead crystal.
 
2012-06-17 09:27:24 AM
The 'Just Say No' was more directed at Generation X.
 
2012-06-17 09:27:52 AM
Shrieking out Russian submarine codes in his bed, frothing and dying from Alzheimers, while his wife Nancy fellates the corpse of Frank Sinatra. Why do you ask?
 
2012-06-17 09:30:14 AM
So you dont think saying no to drugs is a good idea? Why not? Is there ever a good reason to start smoking meth or crack or shooting heroin?

/RTFA
 
2012-06-17 09:31:37 AM
We are the people our parents warned us about.
 
2012-06-17 09:33:49 AM

Steve Zodiac: Boomers never said "No", nor did they want to. They wanted everyone ELSE to 'Just Say No'.


shockingly the most selfish generation in history is selfish.

/i'm shocked.
 
2012-06-17 09:33:52 AM
So it's this thread again?

/ collectively speaking, I'm not real fond of the Baby Boomers
// I'll get my popcorn.....
 
2012-06-17 09:36:04 AM
High till I die, yo
 
2012-06-17 09:36:43 AM
The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.
 
2012-06-17 09:39:33 AM
Nancy Reagan, b. 1921.
 
2012-06-17 09:40:02 AM
My drugs are morally superior to your drugs because I can buy them in a store!
 
2012-06-17 09:40:31 AM
So sad, really. Here we generation so totally focused on its own happiness, raised by a generation only slightly less focused on its children's happiness. And yet years later, it has so wholly forgotten what happiness is that it enslaves itself to a chemical for a few minutes of inauthentic happiness a pop. And the worst part is that it had done this before, realized it was a bad idea, and has now fallen back into the trap.

If there is anything to be learned from the mess, it is that centering your goals and values on happiness will only ensure that you do not find it. Set your sights on something else -dare I say, something loftier- and happiness will come to you.
 
2012-06-17 09:40:40 AM
What are moral values?

Moral values are the standards of good and evil, which govern an individual's behavior and choices. Individual's morals may derive from society and government, religion, or self. When moral values derive from society and government they, of necessity, may change as the laws and morals of the society change. An example of the impact of changing laws on moral values may be seen in the case of marriage vs. "living together."
Link
 
2012-06-17 09:41:16 AM
Generation X: Just Say No

Baby Boomers: Just say Snow
 
2012-06-17 09:43:16 AM
At that age, I say go for it gramps!

upload.wikimedia.org

He gets it.
 
2012-06-17 09:43:17 AM
So can legalize pot now that the addicts own the old people vote?
 
2012-06-17 09:44:30 AM

Fark U: What are moral values?


"Christianity goes beyond all other religions in that it is more than just a system of do's and don'ts; it is a relationship with the living God through His Son, Jesus Christ"

What a crock
 
2012-06-17 09:46:51 AM
To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.
 
2012-06-17 09:49:55 AM
psst--anybody in this thread have some weed they can part with? EIP.
 
2012-06-17 09:50:55 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Well, the pendulum has swung back the other way.

...I doubt they'll ever vote for legalization of any kind, though. Bastards.


THIS. Farking hypocrisy is the only constant with this group.

ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY EFFECTIVE BIRTH CONTROL (or sex with boys from the Dominican Republic)
JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS (but my Xanax and OxyContin are A-OK)
LOWER TAXES TO SPUR GROWTH (my profligate welfare in the form of mortgage deductions and capital gains is all good though)
NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR UNIONS (corporations sticking it to the working class to keep my capital gains up, well that's different)
 
2012-06-17 09:50:58 AM

MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.


A true but entirely pedantic assertion.
 
2012-06-17 09:51:38 AM
Let me remind you of something very important about drugs. It's all about the cheese.

Boomers are retiring. Their cash flow will soon become negative. Much like bankers and brokers who stole billions from people with accumulated wealth in the last meltdown, the drug dealers are pushing hard to get as much money out of the boomers as possible.

The first one is always free; the last one is always the most expensive. Look around the room and figure out which person is enjoying your high the most.
 
2012-06-17 09:52:20 AM

Trance750: The 'Just Say No' was more directed at Generation X.


You trying to say Nancy Reagan was a boomer?
 
2012-06-17 09:52:27 AM

Boudica's War Tampon: I shoot only the finest western slope Himalayan heroin that has been ingested then evacuated through the supple bowels of young, free-range, female snow leopards. Of course my needle is cold-drawn pure gold attached to a 23% hand-cut lead crystal.


I admire your sense of style and tradition. That said, if you ever want to go green with your heroin syringes, might I suggest a flint glass that uses titanium dioxide rather than lead?

Mainlining For Christ,

S.W.O.D.
 
2012-06-17 09:53:22 AM

MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.


She was their mouthpiece. They did elect Reagan afterall.
 
2012-06-17 09:53:31 AM
The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.
 
2012-06-17 09:54:39 AM

Hypothetical Imperative: MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.

A true but entirely pedantic assertion.


True is true and if you call pointing out the truth of the matter as pedantry, then you might want to remove that telephone pole you have stuck up your butt.
 
2012-06-17 09:55:42 AM

sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.


My Dad did his 30 years with the Air Force as a civilian worker after being drafted in the late 60s, lives within his means on his retirement, and smokes the weed responsibly, so he is awesome and not part of the generalization I made above. He didn't focus on getting his above all else, he focused on family, making sure we had vacations every year and some sense of responsibility as best he was able to teach it. As a result we are all the closer for it.

\Thanks Dad!
 
2012-06-17 09:56:48 AM
Boomers have always done drugs. Are you sure you didn't mean that there was is a rise of drug use among Gen-X'ers, cuz the just say no campaign was aimed at them, not the baby boomer generation. Most boomers were already adults when Nancy Regan coined the phrase "just say no."

Kinda helps to know what you are talking about, before making a fool of yourself on Fark, don't ya think?
 
2012-06-17 09:59:05 AM
So, where's that "Just Say No" crap at now, grandpa?

Idiots everywhere,

Please stop doing this. Please stop beginning a question or phrase with "Where...." and then ending same said phrase with "...at." It's redundant, it's a poor construction, and it makes you sound functionally retarded.

Sincerely,
People who are better than you.
 
2012-06-17 09:59:44 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: So it's this thread again?

/ collectively speaking, I'm not real fond of the Baby Boomers
// I'll get my popcorn.....


It gets boring, because it's based on a fundamental misreading of history.
The media is fond of presenting the boomers as a generation of hippies, protestors, and flower-children who sold out when it became convenient.
the real truth is that the social rebels upon whom the popular caricature of that era is based never constituted more than about 15% of that generation. the rest were the so-called "silent majority" - who took orders, walked between the white lines, and did everything they could to persecute those rebels.
Well, they are still around, and their conformity didn't pay off in happiness while it was supposed to - and they see you, the young, as the same enemy they hated then.
Regarding my generation, I would say this to the young - you are wise to reflexively distrust us - but seek allies where you can find them. remember that those few of us boomers who know the score know your enemy better than you do - we've been fighting them for 45 years.
 
2012-06-17 09:59:48 AM

Mugato: MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.

She was their mouthpiece. They did elect Reagan afterall.


She was Frank Sinatra's mouthpiece, if all the rumors are true.
 
2012-06-17 10:00:40 AM

Steve Zodiac: Boomers never said "No", nor did they want to. They wanted everyone ELSE to 'Just Say No'.


That.

MAYORBOB: The creator of the "Just Say No" bullshiat was Nancy Reagan, a member of the "Greatest Generation". But don't let the facts get in the way of a good headline, subby.


I'm pretty sure the cops and school officials who pushed it on me in grade-school were solidly middle-aged boomers. I have a hard time believing that Nancy Reagan was the on in the McGruff the Crime Dog costume.
 
2012-06-17 10:00:48 AM

sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2012-06-17 10:01:43 AM
Gramps does Viagra and Vicodin on Friday and Saturday, Xanax and Valium on Sunday. He says your grandma is a junkie slut.
 
2012-06-17 10:02:51 AM

ShamWowofDamocles: Boudica's War Tampon: I shoot only the finest western slope Himalayan heroin that has been ingested then evacuated through the supple bowels of young, free-range, female snow leopards. Of course my needle is cold-drawn pure gold attached to a 23% hand-cut lead crystal.

I admire your sense of style and tradition. That said, if you ever want to go green with your heroin syringes, might I suggest a flint glass that uses titanium dioxide rather than lead?

Mainlining For Christ,

S.W.O.D.


YMMV but I find flint glass does not ring with the same pure tonal harmonies like leaded crystal does when I tap out the air bubble previous to injection. Plus I feel the crystalline structures of flint glass are microscopically too rough and induce oxygenation into my heroin.
 
2012-06-17 10:03:44 AM

ghare: The biggest mistake boomers made was having gen-x-y-z lazy losers as children.


Oh, horseshiat. The young are exactly the same as we were when we were young - namely, young. Youth is what it is - it has it's strengths and weaknesses, and it's part of the human condition. Deal with it
 
2012-06-17 10:03:58 AM
The Greatest Generation, traumatized by terrible economic times as children followed up by fighting the bloodiest war in human history as young adults, tried desperately to create a conflict-free world for their children. To that end, they went so far as to rewrite philosophical, moral, and political thinking in a manner centered on pleasure and conflict avoidance: totally different, nearly opposite in fact, from that in which they themselves had been raised.

"Just Say No" and its ilk are what happened when they realized what their sociological experiment had actually produced. They represent a last-ditch effort to turn back the tide they themselves had unleashed. I'm forced to wonder: what must they have felt, realizing what they had done?
 
2012-06-17 10:05:44 AM

PawisBetlog: sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.

My Dad did his 30 years with the Air Force as a civilian worker after being drafted in the late 60s, lives within his means on his retirement, and smokes the weed responsibly, so he is awesome and not part of the generalization I made above. He didn't focus on getting his above all else, he focused on family, making sure we had vacations every year and some sense of responsibility as best he was able to teach it. As a result we are all the closer for it.

\Thanks Dad!


According to your generalisation above, every single person born in an ill-defined period after 1945 is a fundamentalist Christian, Republican voting racist. Except for your dad. Which is nice.
 
2012-06-17 10:08:17 AM
What a sad generation.

Truly. I used to be angry at the Boomers, for engaging in a maneuver best described by another Farker as "climbing a ladder put down for them by their parents, then pulling it up after them, leaving younger folks stranded".

But now that I see them getting truly old, the myopic self-obsession in which they've always been trapped just makes me feel pity.

It's not to say that I don't look forward to the day when they're mostly dead or marginalized. That generation's best work was finished thirty years ago, but unlike prior generations that were happy to pass the mic, Boomers managed to more than double their social airtime with sheer selfishness and numbers. They've made an entire country "about" them, to serve them, even to cater to exactly how they'd like to contribute back to it. It's astonishing, really.

This nation prospered with them for a time, but it's been held back by them for even longer, and the younger generations are facing being stunted for lack of space. In the next ten years, the Boomers will be fading. It's a relief for those of us who feared they'd find a way to demand and be granted eternal life, along with everything else they've strongarmed from the world.

But I do feel sorry for them lately. They feel the spotlight moving on to someone else, and "their" world changing without their permission, and they're so angry and bewildered about it. They're going to grow old as gracelessly as a marginalized old Hollywood diva, never understanding why others have to have needs when theirs are so very important.

And never realizing that they missed a core beauty of living in this world, which involves being able to truly think of others first, and humble oneself before a larger picture.
 
2012-06-17 10:09:20 AM

PawisBetlog: sweet-daddy-2: To all of you haters out there: Call your boomer dads and grandfathers
today and give them your love.

My Dad did his 30 years with the Air Force as a civilian worker after being drafted in the late 60s, lives within his means on his retirement, and smokes the weed responsibly, so he is awesome and not part of the generalization I made above. He didn't focus on getting his above all else, he focused on family, making sure we had vacations every year and some sense of responsibility as best he was able to teach it. As a result we are all the closer for it.

\Thanks Dad!


See? We're not all bad guys. Now take him a sixer and cook a ribeye for him.
Maybe he won't bogart that joint.
 
2012-06-17 10:09:47 AM

FTFA:

"The younger people are when they take their first drink or their first toke, the more likely they are to become addicted adults, Hall said, due to brain development not being complete until about age 25."
This sounds like an old wives tale. Is there any research to back this up?

What is probably true is that if someone has a bad addiction to alcohol or drugs as a teenager they also are likely to be addicted to something late in life. I don't know if there is any research on whether such early addicts who become "clean" during their middle life revert in later years.
 
2012-06-17 10:11:52 AM
A word for all you young folk who are here to trash us boomers - i will listen happily, but I'd like to ask you a small favor in return.
Do you think y'all might be able to find the time to start, you know,
F**KING VOTING!?!?!?!?
And don't try to tell me you do - I've read the stats.
kthnxby.
 
2012-06-17 10:12:14 AM

Millennium: The Greatest Generation, traumatized by terrible economic times as children followed up by fighting the bloodiest war in human history as young adults, tried desperately to create a conflict-free world for their children. To that end, they went so far as to rewrite philosophical, moral, and political thinking in a manner centered on pleasure and conflict avoidance: totally different, nearly opposite in fact, from that in which they themselves had been raised.

"Just Say No" and its ilk are what happened when they realized what their sociological experiment had actually produced. They represent a last-ditch effort to turn back the tide they themselves had unleashed. I'm forced to wonder: what must they have felt, realizing what they had done?


I call it the Spock Effect. Parallels with the Cobra Effect.

A sad, misguided, inventor named Dr Spock wrote an owner's manual for those new parents. And they bought it hook line, and sinker.
He was an idiot and society acted his fool.
Fortunately it would appear that no matter how badly tou fark up young children, most will turn out just fine in spite of it.
 
2012-06-17 10:15:31 AM

supageil: What a sad generation.

Truly. I used to be angry at the Boomers, for engaging in a maneuver best described by another Farker as "climbing a ladder put down for them by their parents, then pulling it up after them, leaving younger folks stranded".

But now that I see them getting truly old, the myopic self-obsession in which they've always been trapped just makes me feel pity.

It's not to say that I don't look forward to the day when they're mostly dead or marginalized. That generation's best work was finished thirty years ago, but unlike prior generations that were happy to pass the mic, Boomers managed to more than double their social airtime with sheer selfishness and numbers. They've made an entire country "about" them, to serve them, even to cater to exactly how they'd like to contribute back to it. It's astonishing, really.

This nation prospered with them for a time, but it's been held back by them for even longer, and the younger generations are facing being stunted for lack of space. In the next ten years, the Boomers will be fading. It's a relief for those of us who feared they'd find a way to demand and be granted eternal life, along with everything else they've strongarmed from the world.

But I do feel sorry for them lately. They feel the spotlight moving on to someone else, and "their" world changing without their permission, and they're so angry and bewildered about it. They're going to grow old as gracelessly as a marginalized old Hollywood diva, never understanding why others have to have needs when theirs are so very important.

And never realizing that they missed a core beauty of living in this world, which involves being able to truly think of others first, and humble oneself before a larger picture.


Dude - 15% of us spent the sixties and most of the seventies trying to tell the other 85% that - do you think they are going to listen now?
Go to the polls en masse. Vote.
The "silent majority" will never change.
 
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