Understands.

This was the plot of a Jerry Lewis movie. Peter Lawford is his doctor, tells him he's got a couple of months. Jerry goes on a huge round-the-world credit-card-fueled spending bender, while Lawford makes time with Lewis' wife, the reason for the false diagnosis.

TFA: Wilma said they've lost faith in the health system and refused to get medical care.

Yes, it's the hospital's fault that you spent way more than you had, expecting to game the insurance companies to pay for your excesses. "Personal responsibility" is completely foreign to the world today...

I'd probably ask for a second opinion, but I hardly blame these people for doing what they did...especially if they thought his life insurance would pay for it once he was gone. Beats the hell out of sitting at home and waiting to die.

So you borrowed 80k without any intention of paying it back. And somehow because you thought you were dying, we're supposed to sympathize?

Sorry. That makes you a douchebag.

On the other hand, you probably wouldn't have done so much awesome shiat if you hadn't had the diagnosis, so ya got that going for ya, which is nice.

You know, he may not have cancer but he's still dying. We all are. It was his choice to do everything on his bucket list like a maniac.

wmoonfox: TFA: Wilma said they've lost faith in the health system and refused to get medical care.

Yes, it's the hospital's fault that you spent way more than you had, expecting to game the insurance companies to pay for your excesses. "Personal responsibility" is completely foreign to the world today...

"game the insurance company" = "collect the amount you were insured for?"

Ed Finnerty: [thefilmstage.com image 620x349]

Understands.

I saw that last weekend, had a Q&A session with Bobcat after the movie.

Its called a 2nd opinion for a reason

You know what this article reminds me of? Married men and women who retire together, and then the man is getting closer to death (men die younger) so they go out and spend all their money, and I mean, all of it, on vacations, etc, and then the man dies and the woman has nothing to live on.

very common occurance.

I understand this couple thought he was dying, but their plan was for her to get the life insurance and do what? she had no house, no savings, lots of bills.

PizzaJedi81: On the other hand, you probably wouldn't have done so much awesome shiat if you hadn't had the diagnosis, so ya got that going for ya, which is nice.

Yeah, if I was getting on in years, I'd probably be a little glad that I had been "tricked" into doing stuff I always wanted to do. I mean, I'd be pissed I gave away my stuff and all, but at least I accomplished some of my dreams?

wmoonfox: TFA: Wilma said they've lost faith in the health system and refused to get medical care.

Yes, it's the hospital's fault that you spent way more than you had, expecting to game the insurance companies to pay for your excesses. "Personal responsibility" is completely foreign to the world today...

You're an idiot. His point was he has life insurance which pays a lump sum when he dies. The insurance company expects you to use that for bills.

It would make a not great but not awful movie.

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It would make a not great but not awful movie.

Sounds like it would make several movies.

It depends whether anything on my bucket list had negative long-term consequences.

It's possible that it was a net positive if he's not $80k in debt after pulling an Office Space.

rvabenji: wmoonfox: TFA: Wilma said they've lost faith in the health system and refused to get medical care.

Yes, it's the hospital's fault that you spent way more than you had, expecting to game the insurance companies to pay for your excesses. "Personal responsibility" is completely foreign to the world today...

You're an idiot. His point was he has life insurance which pays a lump sum when he dies. The insurance company expects you to use that for bills.

But his wife was left with a ton of bills, no home, no savings. Not everyone has a million dollar or more insurance policy. She would have had to not only cover all of his fun, but start completely over.

So you got to complete your bucket list early. Now you can focus on paying your debts.

And what would his widow do once he was dead? Live off the insurance payout? Oh, wait, he spent that.

$30,000 for ten days? Yeah, the pool and toilets and everything else was filled with Fiji water but it's not that expensive.

On the other hand the incorrect diagnosis was "free".

Newsflash: just bc you think you are dying...doesn't mean you are special somehow. What they did was VERY immature and stupid...then they were going to try and defraud the insurance company into paying for it.

Tough luck he didn't die and all..but it looks like they are on the hook because of his over-inflated sense of entitlement and stupidity

rvabenji: You're an idiot.

No, you.

rvabenji: His point was he has life insurance which pays a lump sum when he dies. The insurance company expects you to use that for bills.

My point is, they ran up a whole bunch of unnecessary bills expecting a big payout. If they were hospital bills, these fine folks might deserve some sympathy and possibly some compensation, As it is, they went on vacation, gambling and losing. It's all there in the article.... you did read the article, right?

Actually I'm pretty sure that would be farking rad...

Sure the guy is down money, but a lifetime of experiences AND you get to complete your life? I'm pretty sure which outcome I would choose...

JWideman: And what would his widow do once he was dead? Live off the insurance payout? Oh, wait, he spent that.

I don't know the details of their financial situation but.....

There aren't any laws that say you have to pay your debt. Particularly unsecured debt. That's why it's called unsecured debt.

While it goes against most people's sense of right and wrong; it's entirely possible to protect reasonably large sums of money while not paying equally large sums of money. Personally, if it were me, I'd have gotten a divorce. Being legally separated would protect my wife from my debts and still allow her to be the named beneficiary of my life insurance policy.

The credit card debt and what not, that would stay in my name.

ArgusRun: So you borrowed 80k without any intention of paying it back. And somehow because you thought you were dying, we're supposed to sympathize?

Sorry. That makes you a douchebag.

This. I felt a little sorry for them until I got to that part.

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It would make a not great but not awful movie.

You got me straight trippin', boo.

I'm unclear as to why they gave the tools away rather than sell them. Was it to feel charitable? Well, then let that keep them warm at night.

What a pair of idiots.

"I have cancer; I think I will discontinue my health insurance."

flucto: Finding out you don't really have cancer is never bad.



/ would agree.

Unfortunately, stupid people do stupid things with their money.

Did this guy not give a crap about whether he left his wife buried in debt or not? And apparently she didn't, either.

Oh well, at least he still has his cigarettes.

Was it a brain cloud?

Girion47: Ed Finnerty: [thefilmstage.com image 620x349]

Understands.

I saw that last weekend, had a Q&A session with Bobcat after the movie.

You lucky bastard! That must've been great.

zamboni: FTFA:"If the pain got too bad I was going to kill myself, but the pain never came ... everyone was surprised I was still alive," Frank said.

Might wanna check the terms of that life insurance policy you were depending on to pay for your recent extravagances, Sparky. It probably doesn't cover suicide.

These guys sound like they don't plan ahead very much. It's a wonder they even have a life insurance policy to begin with.

I was surprised to learn that my life insurance *does* cover suicide, so long as I've held the policy for 3 years. So I've got that going for me.