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(AZCentral)   On the same day President Obama softened the country's policy towards young illegal immigrants, Sheriff Joe Arpaio arrests a 6-year-old girl suspected of being in the country illegally   (azcentral.com) divider line 217
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2012-06-17 07:38:37 AM
FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!
 
2012-06-17 07:41:38 AM

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


I say we deport those little bastards too.
 
2012-06-17 07:42:53 AM

eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?

Positive reinforcement

Elaborate.

Specifically, how do you know your interpretation is the correct one?

In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references

First, I'm not the one making a claim. You are.

Second...siting? Really? Siting IS a word...it just doesn't fit in the context of your challenge. Did you mean, perhaps, "citing"?

In any case, you haven't answered my question. So, again, how do you support your claim? Be specific.


Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.
 
2012-06-17 07:45:24 AM
Illegal is Illegal is Illegal. What part of farking ILLEGAL ain't clear to you bleeding hearts and non-thinking farkers. Soetoro has once again wiped his butt on the Constitution and dares Congress to do something about it. In addition to writing checks to be cashed by the next several generations making them defacto Indentured Servants he's also giving their country away for his own political capitol now.

The camel's nose is in the tent with this modified DREAM act coming through an Executive Order. What other atrocities will we see before the election in November as Barry's number's keep slipping?
 
2012-06-17 07:51:57 AM

George Walker Bush: Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.


Eliminate the controversy and provide an elaboration for each intended layer of your statement.

/of course I'm not actually expecting a response
//you're demurring because you CAN'T respond in a way supportive of your initial post
///Final question: why did you make such a claim if you had no basis with which to back it up?
////I lied, there's one more question: siting? Really? You're seriously dumb enough to make a mistake like that?
 
2012-06-17 07:58:27 AM

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious


If he's not, then I am. Go ahead and give specifics for your retarded statement.
 
2012-06-17 07:58:55 AM

George Walker Bush: e will of the people. The Dream Act would have been wholly acceptable as part of comprehensive immigration reform. When implemented alone it obviously adds to the problem and it infuriates people to be told otherwise. Next step is calling them racist for being overly impassioned about the sensitive issue. The voting backlash will be ridiculous. This and other policies will be rolled back easily by super-majorities and the President will be proven to be the most damaging and ineffective in history. Cheers!


Will of the people? The Dream Act passed the house and got 55 votes in the Senate. I'll buy the argument (maybe) that Obama's decision thwarted the will of supermajority-based republican democracy, but bullshiat it "mandated against the will of the people", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anyway.
 
2012-06-17 08:02:13 AM

George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8:

Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.


Bing Bong. We have a troll.
 
2012-06-17 08:09:50 AM
The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it
 
2012-06-17 08:10:43 AM
You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?
 
2012-06-17 08:11:36 AM

Clonod: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8:

Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.

Bing Bong. We have a troll.


There are no trolls on Fark.
There are no non-trolls on Fark.
Heart like moon.
Mind like water.
 
2012-06-17 08:12:22 AM

George Walker Bush: In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references


You are calling for a wall of text? Haven't you learned nuthin about how we operate here?
 
2012-06-17 08:13:21 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it


So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?
 
2012-06-17 08:14:20 AM

RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?


Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.
 
2012-06-17 08:17:34 AM

Tomflry7: You know who else had a rising sun flag?


Your mom, which is raised next to the bed when you need another hummer, much in the same way Casa Bonita would bring sopapillas?
 
2012-06-17 08:22:08 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"


Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?
 
2012-06-17 08:27:11 AM

eraser8: RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?

Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.


You are the indigenous I speak of.
Is every non-native really an illegal?
 
2012-06-17 08:28:13 AM

eraser8: RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?

Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.


If you can't legally fish (recreationally, anyway) without a license, you are a wetback.
 
2012-06-17 08:33:32 AM

jso2897: Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it

So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?


First, I don't live in the United States. I live in Ireland (I *am* an immigrant). I work for a US Company that has offices all over the world so the super rich owners can make more money. They have TEAMS of people who do nothing be study tax laws and immigration laws looking for ways to improve the companies bottom line. And, I am a second class citizen.

Second, no. I don't see it as a 'good' thing. I can't magically undo history, but it's pretty much filled with people doing 'wrong' things. What I *can* do is work, in some small way, to making things closer to what I think it 'good'. Given the information I have about immigration, and having personally experienced it; I don't see the benefit. Given more information, my opinion might change...but until it does, I am anti-immigration. I think the US should re-evaluate it's immigration laws and should do more to enforce the immigration laws it has.

It's great in theory, and I wish the world was rainbows and sunshine and anyone who wants it should be welcomed anywhere and everyone should get free everything and a great paying job and yadda, yadda, yadda. But in real life, it doesn't work that way, from what I can see.
 
2012-06-17 08:35:17 AM

ciberido: Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"

Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?


I want to know when the sob is going to die.
 
2012-06-17 08:36:42 AM

eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.


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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link
 
2012-06-17 08:36:53 AM

gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!


Uuuuum, no. It belongs to DHS.
 
2012-06-17 08:41:21 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: jso2897: Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it

So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?

First, I don't live in the United States. I live in Ireland (I *am* an immigrant). I work for a US Company that has offices all over the world so the super rich owners can make more money. They have TEAMS of people who do nothing be study tax laws and immigration laws looking for ways to improve the companies bottom line. And, I am a second class citizen.

Second, no. I don't see it as a 'good' thing. I can't magically undo history, but it's pretty much filled with people doing 'wrong' things. What I *can* do is work, in some small way, to making things closer to what I think it 'good'. Given the information I have about immigration, and having personally experienced it; I don't see the benefit. Given more information, my opinion might change...but until it does, I am anti-immigration. I think the US should re-evaluate it's immigration laws and should do more to enforce the immigration laws it has.

It's great in theory, and I wish the world was rainbows and sunshine and anyone who wants it should be welcomed anywhere and everyone should get free everything and a great paying job and yadda, yadda, yadda. But in real life, it doesn't work that way, from what I can see.


Fine - then let's stop pretending that a matter of pragmatism is a matter of principle, figure out something that will actually work in the real world, and do it - absent moral or ethical judgements. What you can't do, in logical honesty, is argue pragmatics when it suits your ends, and then turn round and start pounding the table and shouting about "principles" - like the supposed "sanctity" of law, when that suits your ends. That's my only point, here.
 
2012-06-17 08:45:30 AM

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


They don't want to work hard, manuel labor so joder'em.
 
2012-06-17 08:46:25 AM

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?
 
2012-06-17 08:47:42 AM
I'm all for enforcing laws but I still think the rabid anti-illegal immigration crowd is going to be disappointed with how little their lives improve after all illegals are deported. And liberals calling anti-illegal immigration legislation 'anti-immigration' legislation doesn't help anything either.
 
2012-06-17 08:48:39 AM

david_gaithersburg: Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.


Did you actually read the article you linked?

Considering your certitude, it's hard to believe you did -- or, at least, I don't want to believe you're dumb enough to have linked that article when you're arguing what you're arguing.

In any case, I asked you to "be specific."

Maybe I'm at fault. Maybe I should have been more specific.

So, here goes: BE SPECIFIC IN YOUR OWN WORDS.
 
2012-06-17 08:49:14 AM

Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?


Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.
 
2012-06-17 08:50:37 AM

david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.


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Ouch! What is this? Link
 
2012-06-17 08:52:35 AM

doyner: gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!

Uuuuum, no. It belongs to DHS.


Ummm, yes, it is still part of the military. While a component of the DHS, Federal Law, specifically Title 14 of the United States Code, Section 1, states, "The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy."

I'm in the Coast Guard, trust me.
 
2012-06-17 08:52:54 AM
Kill this man. Seriously, one of you is likely in this region. Kill this man.
 
2012-06-17 08:54:12 AM

david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link


Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?
 
2012-06-17 08:55:44 AM
It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.
 
2012-06-17 08:58:35 AM

GDubDub: Subby is a farking c*ck. TFA didn't say what was suggested. Girl was a victim in human smuggling. If she hadn't been "arrested" she would have ended up locked in a closet, let out only to service balding old fat white men.


...like Sheriff Joe
 
2012-06-17 09:00:51 AM

eraser8: david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link

Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?


stop the trolling
 
2012-06-17 09:03:36 AM
No, it is not the child's fault her parents illegally brought her here, so we should make sure she lovingly accompanies her parents as they are returned to their legal country. Free of charge, of course.

/just because it's not her fault somehow makes it OUR fault and responsibility?
 
2012-06-17 09:07:08 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


The Aryans suffered the Jews until it was time for the Anschluß . The Aryans suffered the Russians 'til it was time for war in Europe. The Aryans suffered the Poles until it was time for the Holocaust.

Any non-Aryan who thinks he's going to be spared by the Germans, if the hardliners get their way, is a goddamned idiot.

//this post is not directed to you, TBWCUMI. You seem to get it. I'm just putting my 2 cents in.
 
2012-06-17 09:09:37 AM

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link

Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?

stop the trolling


I don't farky people as "not very bright" lightly...but, you've absolutely earned your distinction.

Gold Star.

You're a moron and proud of it.

Congratulations.
 
2012-06-17 09:12:29 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


That mean old Sheriff Joe be out there enforcing those laws whitey made! He be a racist!

Cue the That's Racist kid, along with all the other left wing hick stupidity I've seen in this thread. When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy? All he's done so far is put us in so much debt that we can never crawl out of it unless China forgives most of the debt we owe them.
 
2012-06-17 09:15:28 AM

david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link


Even if I lived in your country I wouldn't give a shiat. Politicians are for the most part interchangeable whether they be D. or R. If someone you get behind actually ever gets into office, your country will still be a farking mess. Unfortunately our leader likes to suck America's dick but at least the assholes
who support him aren't as vociferously loudmouthed as the people you pretend to be like. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just a troll & aren't really that farking stupid.
 
2012-06-17 09:15:56 AM

Corvus: borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".

He didn't change any law.


No, he just asked ICE to focus on other people, and not young students/military persons.

Too bad it's being spun as the prez single-handedly "saving" all the kids. Really hate politics.
 
2012-06-17 09:16:59 AM

shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?


Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.
 
2012-06-17 09:19:05 AM
For years I've been saying legalize them, or kick them, out and close the border, but lets stop the games and exploitation.

Instead big business and their bought Republican whores prefer to allow them to stay illegally. Businesses like exploiting illegal labor, low wages, no withholding, no benefits of any type. They are easily intimidated and threatened, "Julio, you're working 30 hours OT this week with no time and a half. Don't like it? I'll call INS have have your ass deported." Business also loves the leverage illegal workers give them over citizens. "What? You want $20/hr? Listen, shiat-head, I can hire 3 illegals for that kind of money."

Now that these people are legal, business will have to comply with the law. To sum up: Fark you, tea-tards. You're too stupid to understand where you own self interest lies.
 
2012-06-17 09:20:38 AM
Her age, or the age of the other 14 people arrested has nothing to do with the fact that they were arrested for a serious crime.
 
2012-06-17 09:23:36 AM
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves
: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


Your life must be simple to be able to yell "Nazis" whenever someone does something you don't like. What Sheriff Joe is doing, is doing his job. The one Holder and his boss won't do. Uphold the laws. You know that set of restrictions we live by so people don't go around killing each other, molesting children, robbing each other. As long as laws are on the books and not ruled unconstitutional, then the damn things need to be enforced. Here is Florida we have unlicensed and uninsured drivers causing accidents. They fill up emergency rooms and leave without paying. They demand Spanish language teachers in our schools. They refuse to learn enough English except to suck up all the freebies they can. They bring in gangs, drugs, prostitution - some of them under age girls - and yet you and others want to give them a free pass to fark up what's left of our society. So if I'm a Nazi for wanting to control crime, I'm a Nazi and you're an Idiot.
 
2012-06-17 09:28:00 AM
So we are groping young travelers at airports and the guy in charge of protecting the nation wants to soften immigration policies for young folks obviously breaking the law? Does not compute.

This sheriff may have saved that little girl from being a sex slave. At the least she is safe from a bunch of strangers.
 
2012-06-17 09:36:13 AM

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


With the La Raza/MEChA types who want to kick gringo out of Amerca...any illegal alien story is racist...even though this young girl was most likely going to end up w some pedophile...yes that what happens w illegal alien kids not w their parents entering here illegally
 
2012-06-17 09:38:28 AM

gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!


No, it's part of homeland security during peace time. But can be sent overseas if the president wishes.
 
2012-06-17 09:40:10 AM
One man is pandering for votes while the other is doing the job "the people", the citizens of Arizona and the United States have asked him to do.
 
2012-06-17 09:41:00 AM

eraser8: shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?

Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.


What do you mean "actually do"?
What do you mean "what's good"?
What do you mean "the country"?
What do you mean "the economy"?
What do you mean "trying to implement"?
What do you mean "Republican solutions"?

Please expand as this statement makes no cents?
 
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