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(AZCentral)   On the same day President Obama softened the country's policy towards young illegal immigrants, Sheriff Joe Arpaio arrests a 6-year-old girl suspected of being in the country illegally   (azcentral.com) divider line 217
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2012-06-17 01:37:40 AM  
Dreams are for closers.
 
2012-06-17 01:40:06 AM  
Republican Sheriffs don' take no bossin' from no negrahs.
 
2012-06-17 01:41:41 AM  
Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.
 
2012-06-17 01:48:26 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


apparently subby fails hard at reading comprehension... it was the same day, not the day after, and the situation as reported sounds extremely dangerous for a 6-year-old that none of the adults are claiming as belonging to them.

-1

not even a good troll headline
 
2012-06-17 02:05:06 AM  
Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"
 
2012-06-17 02:14:26 AM  
To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".
 
2012-06-17 02:24:53 AM  

borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".


Good thing he isn't, then.
 
2012-06-17 04:01:26 AM  

calbert: AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.

apparently subby fails hard at reading comprehension... it was the same day, not the day after, and the situation as reported sounds extremely dangerous for a 6-year-old that none of the adults are claiming as belonging to them.


And that's why she was fitted with a pink suit, made to eat rotten baloney sandwiches, and forced to sit in 100-degree heat. It's dangerous out there.
 
2012-06-17 04:08:32 AM  

borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".


I agree, cameroncrazy1984. I'm glad President Obama didn't legislate from the White House and implement the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act as borg repeated another GOP sound bite. He's focusing on more important illegal immigrant problems than kicking kids out of the country who pose no threat and are trying to better themselves.

Also, borg, you have too many to words in your sentence.

/Proof read and spell check before you post.
 
2012-06-17 04:52:25 AM  
That is not what the article says at all.

On a related note, President Obama's policy is not a significant change. The resources to deport aliens are being used to deport criminal aliens (simply overstaying a visa or being present without a visa is not a criminal offense, but a civil violation) as a priority. That is as it should be. Once we have all the felons who are present without authorization in the country removed, then we can begin on the misdemeanants, and then when they are all gone we can kick out the kids that came over at five years old. Until then there is a basic human right to work and support one's self and family; please see the Universal Declaration of Human Rights §23.

If the choice seems to be working or welfare, I think everyone would prefer to work and pay taxes just like hundreds of millions of others in this country.
 
2012-06-17 05:25:59 AM  
pfft. she's make a shiatty roofer
 
2012-06-17 05:33:00 AM  
You know who else had a rising sun flag?
 
2012-06-17 05:34:50 AM  

Tomflry7: You know who else had a rising sun flag?


New Mexico?
 
2012-06-17 05:37:11 AM  
On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.
 
2012-06-17 05:41:37 AM  
I still don't get arresting the kid tho. Taking her into custody, which would be the ONLY response to the situation, is not the same as being arrested and charged. Mostly I question the language of the article.

I mean do they suspect she masterminded the whole thing? "We've been looking for the criminal mastermind who orchestrated thousands of illegal entries into the United States and was reported under 'interrogation' to be recognizable by her pink kitty barrettes".
 
2012-06-17 05:43:42 AM  
People are still trying to get IN to America?
 
2012-06-17 05:44:03 AM  
I always thought "enforcing existing labor laws" would defeat the whole illegal immigrant problem and sounded really reasonable, too.

//Too socialisty?
 
2012-06-17 05:46:02 AM  
While I think finding this particular child was just a well timed coincidence, I expect we'll see Arpaio ramp up his efforts to deport children, since the deportation deferment only applies to those who have a HS diploma. GED, or record of military service. He'll want to make sure kids that are already in the US are rounded up before they're able to satisfy that requirement. I won't be at all surprised if he has teams start raiding schools.
 
2012-06-17 05:47:03 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


How so? Be specific.
 
2012-06-17 05:56:52 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


And would still be deported under Obamas new directive.
 
2012-06-17 05:58:47 AM  

borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".


He didn't change any law.
 
2012-06-17 06:00:40 AM  

eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.

.

notsureifyouareserious
 
2012-06-17 06:00:43 AM  

usernameguy: calbert: AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.

apparently subby fails hard at reading comprehension... it was the same day, not the day after, and the situation as reported sounds extremely dangerous for a 6-year-old that none of the adults are claiming as belonging to them.

And that's why she was fitted with a pink suit, made to eat rotten baloney sandwiches, and forced to sit in 100-degree heat. It's dangerous out there.


Nobody said she was going to be treated the same as other people in custody. I'm guessing family or children services would be retrieving here from the poky.The arrest was probably the first step in getting her the support she needs since no guardians are in the picture.
 
2012-06-17 06:02:52 AM  

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
.

notsureifyouareserious


Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.
 
2012-06-17 06:05:09 AM  
People don't seem to know what presidents main job is. Presidents don't make the law, they don't make the budget. (yes the submit one but that's not the same) They are not a CEO. They run the organizations of the country. The send out directives on how the things should be run and hire the people that the different groups. That includes prioritizing what different departments do.

In fark threads it seems to me people have it backwards.
 
2012-06-17 06:10:45 AM  
Good.
 
2012-06-17 06:14:37 AM  
You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.
 
2012-06-17 06:21:50 AM  

accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.


Racist. Republican. Anti-immigrant.

/it seems there's no place at the table for people who don't line up with either the "open borders forever, let everyone stay" or "deport everyone" crowds
 
2012-06-17 06:23:11 AM  

accelerus: Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


Too rich.

People who hate the illegals don't want them to be able to buy insurance...but, complain when they show up for treatment uninsured.

accelerus: My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.


The people who are a drain ARE being kicked out. IN RECORD NUMBERS. But, you have to realize that some are going to slip through the cracks...and, some are here because their parents brought them.

And, guess what...the hard-line, no-nonsense, tough-on-illegals measures that you think keep immigrants out are just adding to your tax bill. Congratulations.

Stop being ruled by your emotions and maybe you'd stop being kicked in the balls.
 
2012-06-17 06:24:08 AM  

accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.


You're an idiot. Your tax dollars aren't "helping take care of everyone else", and less than a tenth of a cent of every tax dollar you pay would go towards supporting illegal immigrants in any way, shape or form. If you want to biatch about how tax dollars are spent, then I'd suggest you start biatching more about defense spending and corporate welfare - that's how the VAST majority of your tax dollars are being spent. If you were able to reduce that by just 10%, it would make a noticeable difference in your taxes. Reducing 100% of of "support for illegals" would make zero difference to your bottom line.
 
2012-06-17 06:27:07 AM  

accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.


And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.
 
2012-06-17 06:30:12 AM  

Clonod: Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them people like accelerus don't want them to be able to.


FTFY.
 
2012-06-17 06:31:09 AM  

accelerus: My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms


Fark you

Im STILL paying US taxes, Im still a US employer, with a US born child.
US land owner.

Your pissant immigration laws lead to me being forced to leave and never return (I went to a funeral in Canada and was denied re-entry because apparently as a green card applicant - leaving for even a day meant I "abandoned" my application.)

Doing it the "legit" US way sucks elephant donkey balls.
 
2012-06-17 06:35:43 AM  

Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.


It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.
 
2012-06-17 06:37:55 AM  

George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.


What is "it"?
 
2012-06-17 06:38:27 AM  

George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.


What are you basing that on?
 
2012-06-17 06:39:28 AM  
Subby is a farking c*ck. TFA didn't say what was suggested. Girl was a victim in human smuggling. If she hadn't been "arrested" she would have ended up locked in a closet, let out only to service balding old fat white men.
 
zez
2012-06-17 06:40:09 AM  

unlikely: Republican Sheriffs don' take no bossin' from no negrahs.


t0.gstatic.com

/did he sound taller on the radio?
 
2012-06-17 06:47:02 AM  

feckingmorons: Until then there is a basic human right to work and support one's self and family; please see the Universal Declaration of Human Rights §23.


Has that been ratified by the Senate, or by any first-world country? I doubt it. Every developed nation that I am aware of places restrictions on who may, and under what circumstances, work. "Until then", what work do you expect a 6yo to do? Go ahead and have a seat right over there.
 
2012-06-17 06:49:33 AM  
They just wanted to get the kid away from the pedophile Mexican men.
They love tappin the young stuff.
 
2012-06-17 06:56:28 AM  
Good. Catch them and send them back before they can breed.
 
2012-06-17 06:56:41 AM  

apoptotic: While I think finding this particular child was just a well timed coincidence, I expect we'll see Arpaio ramp up his efforts to deport children, since the deportation deferment only applies to those who have a HS diploma. GED, or record of military service. He'll want to make sure kids that are already in the US are rounded up before they're able to satisfy that requirement. I won't be at all surprised if he has teams start raiding schools.


You're probably right, even though people like my clueless aunt is convinced that if her Columbian American grandkids would never get caught in the dragnet.
 
2012-06-17 07:01:31 AM  

accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.


This is a great example of the President dividing the country by mandating against the will of the people. The Dream Act would have been wholly acceptable as part of comprehensive immigration reform. When implemented alone it obviously adds to the problem and it infuriates people to be told otherwise. Next step is calling them racist for being overly impassioned about the sensitive issue. The voting backlash will be ridiculous. This and other policies will be rolled back easily by super-majorities and the President will be proven to be the most damaging and ineffective in history. Cheers!
 
2012-06-17 07:02:32 AM  

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
.

notsureifyouareserious


youobviouslyarenot.jpg

/there is no stoop low enough that the GOP won't reach
 
2012-06-17 07:02:56 AM  

eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?


Positive reinforcement
 
2012-06-17 07:04:46 AM  

George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?

Positive reinforcement


Elaborate.

Specifically, how do you know your interpretation is the correct one?
 
2012-06-17 07:07:18 AM  

borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".


So your saying he only did this to get more votes in the upcomig election ? Sounds about right .
 
2012-06-17 07:20:34 AM  

eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?

Positive reinforcement

Elaborate.

Specifically, how do you know your interpretation is the correct one?


In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references
 
2012-06-17 07:24:37 AM  

George Walker Bush: accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.

This is a great example of the President dividing the country by mandating against the will of the people. The Dream Act would have been wholly acceptable as part of comprehensive immigration reform. When implemented alone it obviously adds to the problem and it infuriates people to be told otherwise. Next step is calling them racist for being overly impassioned about the sensitive issue. The voting backlash will be ridiculous. This and other policies will be rolled back easily by super-majorities and the President will be proven to be the most damaging and ineffective in history. Cheers!


Sorry, George. We don't miss you yet.
Watch out for that tree!
 
2012-06-17 07:25:09 AM  

George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?

Positive reinforcement

Elaborate.

Specifically, how do you know your interpretation is the correct one?

In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references


First, I'm not the one making a claim. You are.

Second...siting? Really? Siting IS a word...it just doesn't fit in the context of your challenge. Did you mean, perhaps, "citing"?

In any case, you haven't answered my question. So, again, how do you support your claim? Be specific.
 
2012-06-17 07:38:37 AM  
FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!
 
2012-06-17 07:41:38 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


I say we deport those little bastards too.
 
2012-06-17 07:42:53 AM  

eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: Clonod:

And if you were brought here as a baby? Right now there are thousands of people already here through no fault of their own that would love to go through immigration channels the right way.

And we won't let them.

It emboldened more parents to get their children here through no fault of their own.

What are you basing that on?

Positive reinforcement

Elaborate.

Specifically, how do you know your interpretation is the correct one?

In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references

First, I'm not the one making a claim. You are.

Second...siting? Really? Siting IS a word...it just doesn't fit in the context of your challenge. Did you mean, perhaps, "citing"?

In any case, you haven't answered my question. So, again, how do you support your claim? Be specific.


Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.
 
2012-06-17 07:45:24 AM  
Illegal is Illegal is Illegal. What part of farking ILLEGAL ain't clear to you bleeding hearts and non-thinking farkers. Soetoro has once again wiped his butt on the Constitution and dares Congress to do something about it. In addition to writing checks to be cashed by the next several generations making them defacto Indentured Servants he's also giving their country away for his own political capitol now.

The camel's nose is in the tent with this modified DREAM act coming through an Executive Order. What other atrocities will we see before the election in November as Barry's number's keep slipping?
 
2012-06-17 07:51:57 AM  

George Walker Bush: Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.


Eliminate the controversy and provide an elaboration for each intended layer of your statement.

/of course I'm not actually expecting a response
//you're demurring because you CAN'T respond in a way supportive of your initial post
///Final question: why did you make such a claim if you had no basis with which to back it up?
////I lied, there's one more question: siting? Really? You're seriously dumb enough to make a mistake like that?
 
2012-06-17 07:58:27 AM  

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
.

notsureifyouareserious


If he's not, then I am. Go ahead and give specifics for your retarded statement.
 
2012-06-17 07:58:55 AM  

George Walker Bush: e will of the people. The Dream Act would have been wholly acceptable as part of comprehensive immigration reform. When implemented alone it obviously adds to the problem and it infuriates people to be told otherwise. Next step is calling them racist for being overly impassioned about the sensitive issue. The voting backlash will be ridiculous. This and other policies will be rolled back easily by super-majorities and the President will be proven to be the most damaging and ineffective in history. Cheers!


Will of the people? The Dream Act passed the house and got 55 votes in the Senate. I'll buy the argument (maybe) that Obama's decision thwarted the will of supermajority-based republican democracy, but bullshiat it "mandated against the will of the people", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anyway.
 
2012-06-17 08:02:13 AM  

George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8:

Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.


Bing Bong. We have a troll.
 
2012-06-17 08:09:50 AM  
The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it
 
2012-06-17 08:10:43 AM  
You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?
 
2012-06-17 08:11:36 AM  

Clonod: George Walker Bush: eraser8: George Walker Bush: eraser8:

Without making a claim, I cannot interpret to which focus my deeply layered comment peaked your interest in discussing. Please, give me intimate details so I may know my audience and better craft my response.

Bing Bong. We have a troll.


There are no trolls on Fark.
There are no non-trolls on Fark.
Heart like moon.
Mind like water.
 
2012-06-17 08:12:22 AM  

George Walker Bush: In a 1000 word essay, explain how it is not, siting examples and using no less than three sourced references


You are calling for a wall of text? Haven't you learned nuthin about how we operate here?
 
2012-06-17 08:13:21 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it


So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?
 
2012-06-17 08:14:20 AM  

RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?


Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.
 
2012-06-17 08:17:34 AM  

Tomflry7: You know who else had a rising sun flag?


Your mom, which is raised next to the bed when you need another hummer, much in the same way Casa Bonita would bring sopapillas?
 
2012-06-17 08:22:08 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"


Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?
 
2012-06-17 08:27:11 AM  

eraser8: RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?

Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.


You are the indigenous I speak of.
Is every non-native really an illegal?
 
2012-06-17 08:28:13 AM  

eraser8: RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?

Hey, I'm part Native American.

And, I don't mean "part Native American" that every politician claims.

My great-grandfather was actually full-blooded Cherokee.


If you can't legally fish (recreationally, anyway) without a license, you are a wetback.
 
2012-06-17 08:33:32 AM  

jso2897: Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it

So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?


First, I don't live in the United States. I live in Ireland (I *am* an immigrant). I work for a US Company that has offices all over the world so the super rich owners can make more money. They have TEAMS of people who do nothing be study tax laws and immigration laws looking for ways to improve the companies bottom line. And, I am a second class citizen.

Second, no. I don't see it as a 'good' thing. I can't magically undo history, but it's pretty much filled with people doing 'wrong' things. What I *can* do is work, in some small way, to making things closer to what I think it 'good'. Given the information I have about immigration, and having personally experienced it; I don't see the benefit. Given more information, my opinion might change...but until it does, I am anti-immigration. I think the US should re-evaluate it's immigration laws and should do more to enforce the immigration laws it has.

It's great in theory, and I wish the world was rainbows and sunshine and anyone who wants it should be welcomed anywhere and everyone should get free everything and a great paying job and yadda, yadda, yadda. But in real life, it doesn't work that way, from what I can see.
 
2012-06-17 08:35:17 AM  

ciberido: Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"

Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?


I want to know when the sob is going to die.
 
2012-06-17 08:36:42 AM  

eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.


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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link
 
2012-06-17 08:36:53 AM  

gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!


Uuuuum, no. It belongs to DHS.
 
2012-06-17 08:41:21 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: jso2897: Fark_Guy_Rob: The difference between illegal and legal is really just rich corporation's ability to convince people they need more people; the truth is immigration is bad for pretty much everyone except the rich guys getting cheap labour.

Native workers getting displaced get shafted.
(Legal) Incoming immigrants become second class citizens for years while paying additional taxes and getting none of the benefits.
(Illegal) Incoming immigrants end up indentured servants.
The countries losing their best and brightest continue to be crap-holes because emigration prevents the critical mass required for true change.

I really don't see what's so great about it

So you don't see youself being here as a good thing?
Or is your name Running Bear?

First, I don't live in the United States. I live in Ireland (I *am* an immigrant). I work for a US Company that has offices all over the world so the super rich owners can make more money. They have TEAMS of people who do nothing be study tax laws and immigration laws looking for ways to improve the companies bottom line. And, I am a second class citizen.

Second, no. I don't see it as a 'good' thing. I can't magically undo history, but it's pretty much filled with people doing 'wrong' things. What I *can* do is work, in some small way, to making things closer to what I think it 'good'. Given the information I have about immigration, and having personally experienced it; I don't see the benefit. Given more information, my opinion might change...but until it does, I am anti-immigration. I think the US should re-evaluate it's immigration laws and should do more to enforce the immigration laws it has.

It's great in theory, and I wish the world was rainbows and sunshine and anyone who wants it should be welcomed anywhere and everyone should get free everything and a great paying job and yadda, yadda, yadda. But in real life, it doesn't work that way, from what I can see.


Fine - then let's stop pretending that a matter of pragmatism is a matter of principle, figure out something that will actually work in the real world, and do it - absent moral or ethical judgements. What you can't do, in logical honesty, is argue pragmatics when it suits your ends, and then turn round and start pounding the table and shouting about "principles" - like the supposed "sanctity" of law, when that suits your ends. That's my only point, here.
 
2012-06-17 08:45:30 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


They don't want to work hard, manuel labor so joder'em.
 
2012-06-17 08:46:25 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?
 
2012-06-17 08:47:42 AM  
I'm all for enforcing laws but I still think the rabid anti-illegal immigration crowd is going to be disappointed with how little their lives improve after all illegals are deported. And liberals calling anti-illegal immigration legislation 'anti-immigration' legislation doesn't help anything either.
 
2012-06-17 08:48:39 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.


Did you actually read the article you linked?

Considering your certitude, it's hard to believe you did -- or, at least, I don't want to believe you're dumb enough to have linked that article when you're arguing what you're arguing.

In any case, I asked you to "be specific."

Maybe I'm at fault. Maybe I should have been more specific.

So, here goes: BE SPECIFIC IN YOUR OWN WORDS.
 
2012-06-17 08:49:14 AM  

Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?


Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.
 
2012-06-17 08:50:37 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.


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Ouch! What is this? Link
 
2012-06-17 08:52:35 AM  

doyner: gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!

Uuuuum, no. It belongs to DHS.


Ummm, yes, it is still part of the military. While a component of the DHS, Federal Law, specifically Title 14 of the United States Code, Section 1, states, "The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy."

I'm in the Coast Guard, trust me.
 
2012-06-17 08:52:54 AM  
Kill this man. Seriously, one of you is likely in this region. Kill this man.
 
2012-06-17 08:54:12 AM  

david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link


Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?
 
2012-06-17 08:55:44 AM  
It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.
 
2012-06-17 08:58:35 AM  

GDubDub: Subby is a farking c*ck. TFA didn't say what was suggested. Girl was a victim in human smuggling. If she hadn't been "arrested" she would have ended up locked in a closet, let out only to service balding old fat white men.


...like Sheriff Joe
 
2012-06-17 09:00:51 AM  

eraser8: david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

.
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Ouch! What is this? Link

Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?


stop the trolling
 
2012-06-17 09:03:36 AM  
No, it is not the child's fault her parents illegally brought her here, so we should make sure she lovingly accompanies her parents as they are returned to their legal country. Free of charge, of course.

/just because it's not her fault somehow makes it OUR fault and responsibility?
 
2012-06-17 09:07:08 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


The Aryans suffered the Jews until it was time for the Anschluß . The Aryans suffered the Russians 'til it was time for war in Europe. The Aryans suffered the Poles until it was time for the Holocaust.

Any non-Aryan who thinks he's going to be spared by the Germans, if the hardliners get their way, is a goddamned idiot.

//this post is not directed to you, TBWCUMI. You seem to get it. I'm just putting my 2 cents in.
 
2012-06-17 09:09:37 AM  

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

.
.
Ouch! What is this? Link

Did you have a point in posting that?

If so, what was it?

stop the trolling


I don't farky people as "not very bright" lightly...but, you've absolutely earned your distinction.

Gold Star.

You're a moron and proud of it.

Congratulations.
 
2012-06-17 09:12:29 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


That mean old Sheriff Joe be out there enforcing those laws whitey made! He be a racist!

Cue the That's Racist kid, along with all the other left wing hick stupidity I've seen in this thread. When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy? All he's done so far is put us in so much debt that we can never crawl out of it unless China forgives most of the debt we owe them.
 
2012-06-17 09:15:28 AM  

david_gaithersburg: david_gaithersburg: Lipspinach: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

I believe you posted this in another thread. You sound like a real jackass.
What's it like being a functional retard? Does it hurt?

Get used to it. You'll be seeing this until he is sitting behind bars.

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Ouch! What is this? Link


Even if I lived in your country I wouldn't give a shiat. Politicians are for the most part interchangeable whether they be D. or R. If someone you get behind actually ever gets into office, your country will still be a farking mess. Unfortunately our leader likes to suck America's dick but at least the assholes
who support him aren't as vociferously loudmouthed as the people you pretend to be like. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just a troll & aren't really that farking stupid.
 
2012-06-17 09:15:56 AM  

Corvus: borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".

He didn't change any law.


No, he just asked ICE to focus on other people, and not young students/military persons.

Too bad it's being spun as the prez single-handedly "saving" all the kids. Really hate politics.
 
2012-06-17 09:16:59 AM  

shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?


Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.
 
2012-06-17 09:19:05 AM  
For years I've been saying legalize them, or kick them, out and close the border, but lets stop the games and exploitation.

Instead big business and their bought Republican whores prefer to allow them to stay illegally. Businesses like exploiting illegal labor, low wages, no withholding, no benefits of any type. They are easily intimidated and threatened, "Julio, you're working 30 hours OT this week with no time and a half. Don't like it? I'll call INS have have your ass deported." Business also loves the leverage illegal workers give them over citizens. "What? You want $20/hr? Listen, shiat-head, I can hire 3 illegals for that kind of money."

Now that these people are legal, business will have to comply with the law. To sum up: Fark you, tea-tards. You're too stupid to understand where you own self interest lies.
 
2012-06-17 09:20:38 AM  
Her age, or the age of the other 14 people arrested has nothing to do with the fact that they were arrested for a serious crime.
 
2012-06-17 09:23:36 AM  
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves
: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


Your life must be simple to be able to yell "Nazis" whenever someone does something you don't like. What Sheriff Joe is doing, is doing his job. The one Holder and his boss won't do. Uphold the laws. You know that set of restrictions we live by so people don't go around killing each other, molesting children, robbing each other. As long as laws are on the books and not ruled unconstitutional, then the damn things need to be enforced. Here is Florida we have unlicensed and uninsured drivers causing accidents. They fill up emergency rooms and leave without paying. They demand Spanish language teachers in our schools. They refuse to learn enough English except to suck up all the freebies they can. They bring in gangs, drugs, prostitution - some of them under age girls - and yet you and others want to give them a free pass to fark up what's left of our society. So if I'm a Nazi for wanting to control crime, I'm a Nazi and you're an Idiot.
 
2012-06-17 09:28:00 AM  
So we are groping young travelers at airports and the guy in charge of protecting the nation wants to soften immigration policies for young folks obviously breaking the law? Does not compute.

This sheriff may have saved that little girl from being a sex slave. At the least she is safe from a bunch of strangers.
 
2012-06-17 09:36:13 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


With the La Raza/MEChA types who want to kick gringo out of Amerca...any illegal alien story is racist...even though this young girl was most likely going to end up w some pedophile...yes that what happens w illegal alien kids not w their parents entering here illegally
 
2012-06-17 09:38:28 AM  

gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!


No, it's part of homeland security during peace time. But can be sent overseas if the president wishes.
 
2012-06-17 09:40:10 AM  
One man is pandering for votes while the other is doing the job "the people", the citizens of Arizona and the United States have asked him to do.
 
2012-06-17 09:41:00 AM  

eraser8: shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?

Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.


What do you mean "actually do"?
What do you mean "what's good"?
What do you mean "the country"?
What do you mean "the economy"?
What do you mean "trying to implement"?
What do you mean "Republican solutions"?

Please expand as this statement makes no cents?
 
2012-06-17 09:42:19 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-17 09:45:16 AM  

calbert: AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.

apparently subby fails hard at reading comprehension... it was the same day, not the day after, and the situation as reported sounds extremely dangerous for a 6-year-old that none of the adults are claiming as belonging to them.

-1

not even a good troll headline


And one of the reasons I begin feeling like letting the old fark rope go and let that ship sail because it is becoming a veerrrry slanted site with an irrational pink mafia of parrots. Probably will still laugh at the headlines, but the days are gone of any kind of partisan discussion. Put them all in jail, from Enron to lil Gabriela Marquez. Actually, why not ship our criminals down to Mexico? Perhaps the atrocities in a Mexican jail will help with the recidivism rates since cable tv and rape does not. Giving citizenship (let's face it-naturalization is a thing of the past) to folks that skip ahead in line and cheat and step on the heads of the folks trying to get in here legally. It is exhausting because there are an assload of ways to legally enter the country. Aside from that, the ones that enter illegally are also the ones that buy your stolen identity, burden an already crumbling infrastructure, try to steal synthesizers from me on ebay with false info, and crash into my wife's car without insurance. As long as they keep coming, corporate greed or not, the wages will stay low(er) for the rest of us fodder. I just really wish Bush had done this so that we could hear the lamenting wails of "he's just buying votes for the next election" instead of "you racist that hates people just trying to get by..." I don't understand how someone wouldn't be upset by anchor babies and all of the wonderful MS13 spinoff gangs we now have and how less trouble with less people is a bad thing. Oh well. Abortions for some, tiny American flags for others.
 
2012-06-17 09:48:31 AM  

kimmygibblershomework: Giving citizenship (let's face it-naturalization is a thing of the past) to folks that skip ahead in line and cheat and step on the heads of the folks trying to get in here legally.


Who's giving them citizenship?
 
2012-06-17 09:57:15 AM  

eraser8: shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?

Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.


What Republican solutions is Obammster trying to implement?

Lower taxes? No.
Secure borders? No.
Smaller government? No. (Although the pubs haven't shown that they are adept at that, either.)
Adherence to the law and Constitution? No.
Strong economy? No.
Transparency in government? No.
Strong military? No.
National security? No.

If Obama's regime has taught us anything, it's that you can't put a Marxist in the White House and expect anything other than Marxist policies to be rammed down America's throats.
 
2012-06-17 10:08:05 AM  

shotglasss: Transparency in government?


Have you not been following all the leaks?
 
2012-06-17 10:08:28 AM  

shotglasss: eraser8: shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?

Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.

What Republican solutions is Obammster trying to implement?.


Lower taxes? No.
Taxes are at historically all-time lows.
Secure borders? No.
More illegals have been deported under this admin than any other President.
Smaller government? No. (Although the pubs haven't shown that they are adept at that, either.)
Exactly
Adherence to the law and Constitution? No.
Yes.
Strong economy? No.
That was the point.
Transparency in government? No.
No less than under repubs.
Strong military? No.
The only weakness would be from the Repub policy of biting off more than we should be chewing but the military is still strong.
National security? No.
Osama dead, number two dead, drone strikes continue, we're pretty secure.
 
2012-06-17 10:10:55 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Corvus: borg: To be fair, President Obama has no authority to to bypass Congress and implement the "dream act".

He didn't change any law.

No, he just asked ICE to focus on other people, and not young students/military persons.

Too bad it's being spun as the prez single-handedly "saving" all the kids. Really hate politics.


My favorite quote about this was from Grassley when he said the president MAY have done something illegal by passing this and that's OUTRAGEOUS.

Seriously, he comes out and says he doesn't know if what he's saying is true, but he's outraged at the prospect that maybe he sorta, maybe might kinda be right. These guys are whacked.
 
2012-06-17 10:14:54 AM  
You mean the same day Obama circumvented Congress?

ah, gotchya. Is she here illegally? Ok, what's the problem?
 
2012-06-17 10:16:55 AM  

gromitcu: doyner: gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!

Uuuuum, no. It belongs to DHS.

Ummm, yes, it is still part of the military. While a component of the DHS, Federal Law, specifically Title 14 of the United States Code, Section 1, states, "The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy."

I'm in the Coast Guard, trust me.


I can't wait until the first time the Sec. of Defense and the Sec. of Homeland Security disagree about a Coast Guard deployment for some nonspecific military action. Or better, the Sec of DHS and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Good times coming.

/Oh, and to Sheriff Arpaio: You don't ARREST a six yr old child traveling without her family. YOU RESCUE HER. The way you categorized this incident demonstrates your bigotry and incompetence.
 
2012-06-17 10:16:59 AM  

Fissile: For years I've been saying legalize them, or kick them, out and close the border, but lets stop the games and exploitation.

Instead big business and their bought Republican whores prefer to allow them to stay illegally. Businesses like exploiting illegal labor, low wages, no withholding, no benefits of any type. They are easily intimidated and threatened, "Julio, you're working 30 hours OT this week with no time and a half. Don't like it? I'll call INS have have your ass deported." Business also loves the leverage illegal workers give them over citizens. "What? You want $20/hr? Listen, shiat-head, I can hire 3 illegals for that kind of money."

Now that these people are legal, business will have to comply with the law. To sum up: Fark you, tea-tards. You're too stupid to understand where you own self interest lies.


My self-interest involves getting my lawn mowed at an affordable price.
 
2012-06-17 10:18:13 AM  

RY28:
So your saying he only did this to get more votes in the upcomig election ? Sounds about right .



yup. States wanted voter ID cards, Obama's DA, Holder fights against that... so states are purging their voter databases of names for dead people & illegals... this is Obama's way around it.
 
2012-06-17 10:18:32 AM  
Yes, she would have been off traveling with a group of criminals who have no idea who she or her family is.

Liberalslol!
 
2012-06-17 10:18:36 AM  
So basically, Arpaio's stance is 'if Obama won't deport them, I'm just going to have to deport them myself'.
 
2012-06-17 10:18:40 AM  

Shadowtag: I still don't get arresting the kid tho. Taking her into custody, which would be the ONLY response to the situation, is not the same as being arrested and charged. Mostly I question the language of the article.



Admittedly, it has been awhile since I've brushed up on the US Enforcement system; but being taken into custody by an officer of the law (deprived of liberty) is the definition of an arrest. It doesn't say that she has been charged, and it specifically mentions that all of the other suspects were booked into the jail. I doubt she was free to leave, therefore she was in custody of the MCSO = arrest.

I would imagine that when they turn her over to ICE, she will be assigned a caseworker, or some sort of children's advocate (I don't know the internal ICE process). Yes, there are horror stories, but for the most part the people working in those positions are there to provide answers and assistance for victims of human trafficking.

(Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I don't think I have enough masochistic tendencies to read through another 2 pages of comments in an immigration thread.)
 
2012-06-17 10:19:31 AM  

soupafi: gromitcu: FTFA: "...have been honorably discharged from the military or Coast Guard."

THE COAST GUARD IS PART OF THE FARKING MILITARY YOU GODDAMN FARKWITS!!!!!

No, it's part of homeland security during peace time. But can be sent overseas if the president wishes.


Okay, A) see my reply of 2012-06-17 08:52:35 AM.

B) Since when does "be sent overseas" determine if you're part of the military?

C) The Coast Guard **IS** overseas right now, with 5 patrol boats in the NAG.

D) Those PBs were sent there by the Commandant of the Coast Guard, answering a request by the CNO, and were not directed to be there by the President.

E) To repeat, 14USC89. The Coast Guard is part of the military. It's really not up for debate.
 
2012-06-17 10:20:39 AM  

david_gaithersburg: According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.


They are already here you doofus. If you dont like it then start boycotting all your local businesses that employ them.
 
2012-06-17 10:24:17 AM  

9beers: Every country on the planet has a right to enforce its immigration laws, except for the USA. I learned that on Fark.


USA has the right it just doesnt have the ability to do so without destroying its own economy.
 
2012-06-17 10:26:12 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell.


ultnightmares: Hmm, time to post snarky pic showing anybody BUT our unemployed youth. DERP!

 
2012-06-17 10:27:28 AM  
Thanks for protecting the border Sheriff Joe
 
2012-06-17 10:34:28 AM  
Problem: 6-year-old girl is a victim of human trafficking.

static-l3.blogcritics.org

Solution: Ignore.
 
2012-06-17 10:34:42 AM  

ciberido: Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?


The same way Mumia Abu Jamal is still in jail........the claims of Joes guilt and Mumias innocence are just typical claptrap from the left.
 
2012-06-17 10:36:02 AM  
Damn, what's with all the immigration hate?

CSS, My great-grandfather came here, illegally, from italy. Not sure how he was able to do so, maybe hid on the boat? Anyway, he settled in Pittsburgh and married a Polish immigrant. I seriously doubt he spoke English.
 
2012-06-17 10:40:26 AM  

Jamieboy: I want to know when the sob is going to die.


June 28, 2036.

I'm sorry.
 
2012-06-17 10:47:18 AM  

Jamieboy: ciberido: Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"

Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?

I want to know when the sob is going to die.


Hopefully never .
 
2012-06-17 10:47:34 AM  

Alleyoop: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell.

ultnightmares: Hmm, time to post snarky pic showing anybody BUT our unemployed youth. DERP!


You're right, I apologize. I shouldn't trivialize the fact that those damn brown people are taking our jerbs. This is srs bizniss
 
2012-06-17 10:50:36 AM  
 
2012-06-17 10:52:31 AM  
On the one hand, I applaud the left's ability to abstain from the violence the right so routinely uses as a weapon. On the other hand, I wish they would make an exception once in a while and blow this guy's head apart with a shotgun.
 
2012-06-17 10:53:42 AM  

ModernLuddite: I always thought "enforcing existing labor laws" would defeat the whole illegal immigrant problem and sounded really reasonable, too.

//Too socialisty?


Hey, hey now, careful there, we don't want to go hurting any people* with this my friend.
 
2012-06-17 10:55:02 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


Why is it wrong when he does it but not when the elite 1% does it for a few extra bucks in their already overstuffed pockets?
 
2012-06-17 10:55:03 AM  
I guess subby is ok with child smuggling.
 
2012-06-17 11:03:22 AM  

9beers: Every country on the planet has a right to enforce its immigration laws, except for the USA. I learned that on Fark.



Are you talking about the socialist countries, the communist countries, the dictatorships, the theocracies, or the third world countries? Which countries should the USA be more like?
 
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This.
 
2012-06-17 11:04:26 AM  
What prevents these people from immigrating legally? Nothing except a criminal record. I guess that means Obama is willing to flood the streets with foreigners, like Ghadaffi, in order to stay in power. In Obama's case he needs them to vote, not fight.
 
2012-06-17 11:11:13 AM  

lordaction: What prevents these people from immigrating legally? Nothing except a criminal record. I guess that means Obama is willing to flood the streets with foreigners, like Ghadaffi, in order to stay in power. In Obama's case he needs them to vote, not fight.


They want to get in BEFORE they die, usually. It's a long waiting list. Also, a lot of paperwork for people who are not fully literate and probably speak no English.

The average Mexican immigrant is a tough, hard working, family oriented person. It amazes me how much we want to throw them out while welcoming spoiled brat arse holes from India with welcome arms.

We're more worried about a Mexican stealing a kids summer job cutting lawns than we are about some rich Indian brat stealing our kids' potential careers as doctors, engineers and computer programmers.
 
2012-06-17 11:14:14 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.

"We enforce the human-smuggling laws here"

-That's good

"Every chance I can get to take action on my own without turning them over to ICE, I do" -That's bad
 
2012-06-17 11:14:23 AM  
Got no problem with people who come here with work visas or school visas. Got no problem with people working their arses off to be part of 'the American Dream'. More power to you. Unless you're a native american, you're an immigrant or the descendant of an immigrant.
My problem is with illegal immigrants getting their tuitions lowered (http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-21/news/29798836_1_eric-balderas-i llegal-immigrants-legal-residency), or aid in buying a car (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_29/b3943001_mz001.htm ) even when they can't have licenses; or getting welfare (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/welfare-tab-children-illeg al-immigrants-estimated-m-la-county/) or health care (http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/001050).
Like many of the legal american population, I have worked my ass off for what I have and pay four hundred dollars a month for healthcare, and struggle to keep my head above water, all the time being told I make too much money for aid. I'm not a Republican, I'm not racist, and I'm not anti-immigrant. It would be very nice to get the same benefits that THEY do.
On a side note, I'll be the first to agree that Fox isn't the best source for info, and it's most likely a little skewed.
 
2012-06-17 11:16:16 AM  
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No one else thought the companion ad was a funny addition?
 
2012-06-17 11:25:43 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


So is living in a ghetto tent city in 100 degree heat while awaiting deportation.
 
2012-06-17 11:26:21 AM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


If the unemployed youth of America can't compete with people who are less familiar with our culture and language, then good, let them be unemployed. Here's a hint for you, the President doesn't get you hired, you do, it's your responsibility. If you can't find work don't go around blaming other people, do what everyone else in the world has to do and keep looking. That's life, it's tough sometimes, but if you wait for someone else to fix it for you your gonna spend your whole life waiting.
 
2012-06-17 11:27:24 AM  
FTFA: "I suspect that this is politics to get the Hispanic vote," Arpaio said. "It's sad to use the kids as a political tool to get a certain segment of our society's vote." [emphasis added]

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2012-06-17 11:33:23 AM  
The girl was with 15 other people believed to be in the country illegally who were traveling to the Midwest and northeast

Nice twist of the truth. Interesting that the headline is on the 6 yr old and mean old Joe rather than the 15 other people picked up in the group of which no doubt her parents or parent were present. If not, then they abandoned her. The real outrage is that anyone would bring their 6 yr old with them on a dangerous illegal border crossing.
 
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the part that you don't understand is that macro is wrong

my wife got citizenship in 4 years and could have gotten it as little as 3.5

cute macro aside, should we just have open borders? would that solve all our problems?
 
2012-06-17 11:40:44 AM  

david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.

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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link


Isn't that EXACTLY what Reagan did? Except Reagan included adults as well, AND he gave them full legal status. All Obama promises is not to deport them. RTFA.
 
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2012-06-17 11:45:06 AM  

hitlersbrain: lordaction: What prevents these people from immigrating legally? Nothing except a criminal record. I guess that means Obama is willing to flood the streets with foreigners, like Ghadaffi, in order to stay in power. In Obama's case he needs them to vote, not fight.

They want to get in BEFORE they die, usually. It's a long waiting list. Also, a lot of paperwork for people who are not fully literate and probably speak no English.

The average Mexican immigrant is a tough, hard working, family oriented person. It amazes me how much we want to throw them out while welcoming spoiled brat arse holes from India with welcome arms.

We're more worried about a Mexican stealing a kids summer job cutting lawns than we are about some rich Indian brat stealing our kids' potential careers as doctors, engineers and computer programmers.


I beg to differ:

The FBI recently issued a set of statistics regarding crimes committed by illegal immigrants in the United States. The numbers are alarming.In Los Angeles, over 95% of arrest warrants issued for the crime of murder are for illegal aliens. At least 83% of arrest warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens. The number climbs to 86% for Albuquerque. The most wanted lists for each of these cities is comprised of at least 75% illegal aliens.

The problem of prison overcrowding in California has been in the media many times over the past few months. Nearly 25% of the California prison population is comprised of illegal aliens. In Arizona, illegal aliens make up over 40% of the prison population and in New Mexico, the number is nearly 50%.

Illegal aliens account for nearly 30% of prison populations nationwide. This includes both state and federal prisons. The cost to house these illegal aliens is more than $1.6 billion dollars each year.

Statistics from 2005 indicate that over 75% of automobile thefts that occurred in Arizona, Nevada, California, Texas, and New Mexico were either stolen by illegal aliens or used to transport illegal aliens. Almost half of the drivers stopped in California for traffic violations have no driver's license, insurance, or registration. 92% of those are illegal aliens. In Arizona, 63% of those stopped have no license, registration or insurance and 97% of those people are illegal aliens. New Mexico's percentages are 66% stopped with no license, insurance and registration and 98% of those are illegal aliens.

Each year nearly 400,000 babies were born to illegal alien parents in the United States. Being born in the United States automatically makes you a U.S. citizen. Illegal aliens who come to the United States and give birth to children are referred to as having "anchor babies." These illegals will not be deported because they are now 'anchored' in the United States by their American born children. American taxpayers foot the bill for over 97% of these births.
 
2012-06-17 11:52:12 AM  

Turbo Cojones: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.

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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link

Isn't that EXACTLY what Reagan did? Except Reagan included adults as well, AND he gave them full legal status. All Obama promises is not to deport them. RTFA.


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So what you are saying is that since Regan was an idiot His Majesty gets a free pass? Talk about derp.
 
2012-06-17 11:54:30 AM  

Turbo Cojones: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.

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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link

Isn't that EXACTLY what Reagan did? Except Reagan included adults as well, AND he gave them full legal status. All Obama promises is not to deport them. RTFA.


Also watch that vid where a famous constitutional scholar states the Obama broke the law and should be removed from office. Who is in that vid btw?
 
2012-06-17 12:05:42 PM  
Sounds like human trafficking. The girl is probably better off with ICE than with whomever was moving her.
 
2012-06-17 12:10:41 PM  

CultureVulture: Illegal is Illegal is Illegal. What part of farking ILLEGAL ain't clear to you bleeding hearts and non-thinking farkers. Soetoro has once again wiped his butt on the Constitution and dares Congress to do something about it. In addition to writing checks to be cashed by the next several generations making them defacto Indentured Servants he's also giving their country away for his own political capitol now.

The camel's nose is in the tent with this modified DREAM act coming through an Executive Order. What other atrocities will we see before the election in November as Barry's number's keep slipping?


If you want to play the "illegal is illegal" game, then I say we should start with the most important and relevant group of illegals, the GOP. Arrest them all for treason, try them, and hang them. Start with the previous administration for starting an illegal war, war crimes, illegal search and seizure, outing CIA field agents. Then go after Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Kyl, Gingrich, Luntz, Norquist, Ryan for attempting to destroy the current administration by gutting the functions of the government and driving the country into internal collapse (which is treason). Then go after the banksters. Then go after the war profiteers.

There's a priority list of who to go after. Some 12 year old kid who can't speak his "home" country's language is on the order of a jaywalker, compared to the real hoodlums.
 
2012-06-17 12:11:13 PM  

CultureVulture: Illegal is Illegal is Illegal. What part of farking ILLEGAL ain't clear to you bleeding hearts and non-thinking farkers. Soetoro has once again wiped his butt on the Constitution and dares Congress to do something about it. In addition to writing checks to be cashed by the next several generations making them defacto Indentured Servants he's also giving their country away for his own political capitol now.

The camel's nose is in the tent with this modified DREAM act coming through an Executive Order. What other atrocities will we see before the election in November as Barry's number's keep slipping?


Soetoro? Once you identify yourself as a conspiracy theorist, you lose all credibility. Just curious, for future debate with you; did we land on the moon, who killed Kennedy, who was responsible for 9-11 and did pop rocks and Pepsi kill mikey?
 
2012-06-17 12:14:34 PM  

mrjones61: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

If the unemployed youth of America can't compete with people who are less familiar with our culture and language, then good, let them be unemployed. Here's a hint for you, the President doesn't get you hired, you do, it's your responsibility. If you can't find work don't go around blaming other people, do what everyone else in the world has to do and keep looking. That's life, it's tough sometimes, but if you wait for someone else to fix it for you your gonna spend your whole life waiting.


This is along the lines with every discussion I have had with workmates about this topic. It goes like this.

Them : They are taking our jobs.

Me : I've never lost a job opportunity because they hired an illegal, what jobs are you talking about?

Them : Minimum wage jobs, the ones our teenagers would get. Like in a fast food place.

Me : If it's minimum wage, then you are saying they are getting beat in the fair competition for a job because they are not the best worker - since the employer is paying the same wage anyway. Minimum wage.

Them : No, I am talking about the places that are paying under the table and they are getting undercut.

Me : Then shouldn't we be coming down hard on businesses not following the minimum wage rules instead of the people who are so desperate that they will take a fraction of a fair salary? I don't understand the argument of 'They will work harder for less money so we have to kick them OUT so my kid will have a chance to work only as hard as he wants to.'
 
2012-06-17 12:16:12 PM  

dognose4: Sounds like human trafficking. The girl is probably better off with ICE than with whomever was moving her.


Which may be why no one they picked up with her will admit to knowing who she is or where she's from, figuring that even if she ends up in the US foster care system she'll be better off than either the situation she was rescued from or the one she'd be sent back to.
 
2012-06-17 12:26:03 PM  

dericwater: If you want to play the "illegal is illegal" game, then I say we should start with the most important and relevant group of illegals, the GOP. Arrest them all for treason, try them, and hang them. Start with the previous administration for starting an illegal war, war crimes, illegal search and seizure, outing CIA field agents. Then go after Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Kyl, Gingrich, Luntz, Norquist, Ryan for attempting to destroy the current administration by gutting the functions of the government and driving the country into internal collapse (which is treason). Then go after the banksters. Then go after the war profiteers.

There's a priority list of who to go after. Some 12 year old kid who can't speak his "home" country's language is on the order of a jaywalker, compared to the real hoodlums.


If YOU want to play the "illegal is illegal" game then we also need to arrest Barry for starting an illegal war in Libya, continued war crimes in Afghanistan, illegally violating the Constitution's Due Process clause by murdering US citizens with drone missiles without trial, etc.

Those who outed Valerie Plame were indicted and tried.

Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it illegal, Mr. Internetlawyer. You read something somewhere - woo hoo. Congratulations. But most of what you cited has already been reviewed by the Supreme Court, declared legal, which means it is, de facto, and regardless of your tinfoil-hat-wearing beliefs, legal.
 
2012-06-17 12:39:27 PM  

GriffXX: Me : Then shouldn't we be coming down hard on businesses not following the minimum wage rules instead of the people who are so desperate that they will take a fraction of a fair salary? I don't understand the argument of 'They will work harder for less money so we have to kick them OUT so my kid will have a chance to work only as hard as he wants to.'


Arizona already punishes employers for hiring illegal and undocumented workers, but the federal government tried to challenge its right to do even that.
 
2012-06-17 12:40:33 PM  

gromitcu: dericwater: If you want to play the "illegal is illegal" game, then I say we should start with the most important and relevant group of illegals, the GOP. Arrest them all for treason, try them, and hang them. Start with the previous administration for starting an illegal war, war crimes, illegal search and seizure, outing CIA field agents. Then go after Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Kyl, Gingrich, Luntz, Norquist, Ryan for attempting to destroy the current administration by gutting the functions of the government and driving the country into internal collapse (which is treason). Then go after the banksters. Then go after the war profiteers.

There's a priority list of who to go after. Some 12 year old kid who can't speak his "home" country's language is on the order of a jaywalker, compared to the real hoodlums.

If YOU want to play the "illegal is illegal" game then we also need to arrest Barry for starting an illegal war in Libya, continued war crimes in Afghanistan, illegally violating the Constitution's Due Process clause by murdering US citizens with drone missiles without trial, etc.

Those who outed Valerie Plame were indicted and tried.

Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it illegal, Mr. Internetlawyer. You read something somewhere - woo hoo. Congratulations. But most of what you cited has already been reviewed by the Supreme Court, declared legal, which means it is, de facto, and regardless of your tinfoil-hat-wearing beliefs, legal.


One man's "US citizen murdered by drones" is another man's "enemy combatant". And we've already decided that to be legal as well.
 
2012-06-17 12:40:41 PM  
Let's not pretend that Obama did this for any other reason than worry about his chances of being reelected. Sure, he campaigned on not breaking up families during the last election season, but once in office he deported more illegals than Bush ever did.

President Obama came into office with strong Latino support, having won two-thirds of the Latino vote, according to exit polls. But for some, that support has turned to disillusionment.

"There's a deep sense of betrayal and disappointment towards the Obama administration," said Sarahi Uribe, coordinator of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

Indeed, the latest Gallup poll shows his support among Latino voters has fallen to 48 percent, a new low.


Obama could have issued this executive order at any time over the previous four years. The fact that he only does so when his reelection is looking chancy tells you all you need to know about where his heart is.

Obama made specific promises to the Latino community over and over and didn't work to keep them.

Did you ever wonder why Charlie Brown kept charging at the football, despite the fact that Lucy always pulled it away and he wound up flat on his back? You would think that experience has made him skeptical. It's because he really wanted to believe that, this time, things would work out. And when you really want to believe in something, you have a short memory when it comes to past disappointments.

That's how it is with many Latinos and other immigration reform advocates. They want President Obama to become the person they voted for -- who promised Latinos that he would fix a broken immigration system, stop dividing families, and push through Congress a Dream Act-like legislation that would give undocumented young people a pathway to legal status if they go to college or join the military.

None of that happened, and so Latinos -- who, in 2008, voted overwhelmingly for Obama -- are ambivalent about the president's re-election.


Maybe if he hadn't used up quite so much energy implementing the Health Care plan his wealthy buddies in the insurance, pharmaceutical, and medical industries wanted, he might have had some time to spend worrying about keeping his promises to the people who elected him.
 
2012-06-17 12:40:52 PM  

GriffXX: mrjones61: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

If the unemployed youth of America can't compete with people who are less familiar with our culture and language, then good, let them be unemployed. Here's a hint for you, the President doesn't get you hired, you do, it's your responsibility. If you can't find work don't go around blaming other people, do what everyone else in the world has to do and keep looking. That's life, it's tough sometimes, but if you wait for someone else to fix it for you your gonna spend your whole life waiting.

This is along the lines with every discussion I have had with workmates about this topic. It goes like this.

Them : They are taking our jobs.

Me : I've never lost a job opportunity because they hired an illegal, what jobs are you talking about?

Them : Minimum wage jobs, the ones our teenagers would get. Like in a fast food place.

Me : If it's minimum wage, then you are saying they are getting beat in the fair competition for a job because they are not the best worker - since the employer is paying the same wage anyway. Minimum wage.

Them : No, I am talking about the places that are paying under the table and they are getting undercut.

Me : Then shouldn't we be coming down hard on businesses not following the minimum wage rules instead of the people who are so desperate that they will take a fraction of a fair salary? I don't understand the argument of 'They will work harder for less money so we have to kick them OUT so my kid will have a chance to work only as hard as he wants to.'


What I find most ironic about these economic based anti-immigration arguments is that they fail to realize that we have an economy that in part needs people that will do difficult jobs for low compensation. Look at what happened in Alabama. They came down hard on immigrants, many of them left the state, and suddenly there were no workers to harvest the crops. Alabama lost millions of dollars in rotting crops which meant lost tax revenue and higher prices at the grocery store. If only the unemployed youth of Alabama could have gotten off their lazy butts and done an honest days work, but alas apparently only immigrants are willing to do that.
 
2012-06-17 12:47:40 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: gromitcu: dericwater: If you want to play the "illegal is illegal" game, then I say we should start with the most important and relevant group of illegals, the GOP. Arrest them all for treason, try them, and hang them. Start with the previous administration for starting an illegal war, war crimes, illegal search and seizure, outing CIA field agents. Then go after Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Kyl, Gingrich, Luntz, Norquist, Ryan for attempting to destroy the current administration by gutting the functions of the government and driving the country into internal collapse (which is treason). Then go after the banksters. Then go after the war profiteers.

There's a priority list of who to go after. Some 12 year old kid who can't speak his "home" country's language is on the order of a jaywalker, compared to the real hoodlums.

If YOU want to play the "illegal is illegal" game then we also need to arrest Barry for starting an illegal war in Libya, continued war crimes in Afghanistan, illegally violating the Constitution's Due Process clause by murdering US citizens with drone missiles without trial, etc.

Those who outed Valerie Plame were indicted and tried.

Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it illegal, Mr. Internetlawyer. You read something somewhere - woo hoo. Congratulations. But most of what you cited has already been reviewed by the Supreme Court, declared legal, which means it is, de facto, and regardless of your tinfoil-hat-wearing beliefs, legal.

One man's "US citizen murdered by drones" is another man's "enemy combatant". And we've already decided that to be legal as well.


Personally, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm just pointing out the flaws in his argument.
 
2012-06-17 12:49:36 PM  
Funny how Arpaio hasn't been found guilty to actually have broken any laws. He's only trying to keep out people who are in his state illegally. Is there any proof that he's harassed anyone who's legally here?

He's an elected official isn't he? If he's so horrible, why hasn't he been voted out? Seems he's survived three elections, and not one of them was really close. Hell, they couldn't even get enough signatures for a recall vote in '07 (I guess they needed more union goons down there).

Sounds to me like a bunch of entitled whiners, in Che' t-shirts, complaining about someone who actually follows the rule of law. Convict the man, and then you can play your bongos and sing hateful songs about him.
 
2012-06-17 12:50:43 PM  
 
2012-06-17 12:58:37 PM  
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2012-06-17 01:03:01 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


Exactly what I thought too. She was not even from the same country. She could have been a victim of human trafficing rather than an illegal immigrant. I do not think first graders generally try to immigrate on their own.
 
2012-06-17 01:08:24 PM  
Subby works for the Obama Reelection Campaign

Suck it, Subs
 
2012-06-17 01:19:24 PM  

Alleyoop: No, it is not the child's fault her parents illegally brought her here, so we should make sure she lovingly accompanies her parents as they are returned to their legal country. Free of charge, of course.

/just because it's not her fault somehow makes it OUR fault and responsibility?


Yes. Because we are supposed to be humans and she is only 6. I agree she should be sent back, but it is our responsibitity to make sure she gets there safely.
 
2012-06-17 01:28:07 PM  

NotMyAmrfis: Shadowtag: I still don't get arresting the kid tho. Taking her into custody, which would be the ONLY response to the situation, is not the same as being arrested and charged. Mostly I question the language of the article.



Admittedly, it has been awhile since I've brushed up on the US Enforcement system; but being taken into custody by an officer of the law (deprived of liberty) is the definition of an arrest. It doesn't say that she has been charged, and it specifically mentions that all of the other suspects were booked into the jail. I doubt she was free to leave, therefore she was in custody of the MCSO = arrest.

I would imagine that when they turn her over to ICE, she will be assigned a caseworker, or some sort of children's advocate (I don't know the internal ICE process). Yes, there are horror stories, but for the most part the people working in those positions are there to provide answers and assistance for victims of human trafficking.

(Apologies if this has been mentioned, but I don't think I have enough masochistic tendencies to read through another 2 pages of comments in an immigration thread.)


It has not really been mentioned. This whole thread has turned into a converstion about Obama immigration policies. It is common sense for the sheriff to detain a young child who is in the country illegally and travelling with strangers from another country. I think we are the only ones who read the farking article. Nice to know I/m not alone.
 
2012-06-17 01:31:26 PM  
Fark Sheriff Joe and the horse he farks every night. He is such a backwards senile old fark that would be better in a shiatty nursing home.

But more importantly, fark the Mod who approved this. From the facts given in the article, it sounds like they saved this girl from human trafficking. I hope it was greened out if ignorance rather than "for teh lulz".

/I know, I know, welcome to fark
 
2012-06-17 01:37:16 PM  

NotMyAmrfis: Admittedly, it has been awhile since I've brushed up on the US Enforcement system; but being taken into custody by an officer of the law (deprived of liberty) is the definition of an arrest. It doesn't say that she has been charged, and it specifically mentions that all of the other suspects were booked into the jail. I doubt she was free to leave, therefore she was in custody of the MCSO = arrest.


That's actually not true. There's a whole huge gulf of difference between "Sir, I'm going to detain you in handcuffs," and "Sir, you are under arrest for the crime of..." The second you're placed under arrest, you must be given your rights advice (aka "Miranda"), given access to a lawyer, transported to a holding facility, and appear in front of a magistrate within 24 hours. However, I can detain you, in handcuffs, for "officer safety" with none of those requirements in place.

However, I would suspect that with the hacks working in news these days, the author doesn't understand the significance, and went with the assumption that custody=arrest.
 
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That only reinforces the idea that immigration done properly has value to it. If you're just going to be lazy and not go through the proper procedure, there's always Europe and its metric farkton of illegals. Arizona is being too kind even for Arpaio and those in Arizona who favor strong enforcement.

The only things to scrap would be all the guest worker programs. They have no purpose outside of making things worse for citizens. Shame that AZEIR, a pro-amnesty employer group, had Utah enact such a program that bypasses citizens.
 
2012-06-17 01:47:09 PM  

RayD8: You're all illegal immigrants.
Wasn't there some indigenous population whose land was stolen in the firt place?


No. The European colonists settled in a continent that had recently been largely depopulated by a series of epidemics. There were no political entities with laws controlling who could, or could not, settle along the Eastern shore.

If a law does not exist, how could anyone break it?
 
2012-06-17 01:48:19 PM  
Hero tag or Funny tag should be applied. At least recognizes the law unlike our D0uche Bag president.
 
2012-06-17 01:55:21 PM  

Smokey the Bare: Fark Sheriff Joe and the horse he farks every night.


I have it on good authority that the horse is a top.
 
2012-06-17 02:04:11 PM  

shotglasss: eraser8: shotglasss: When is Obammy going to stop the pandering and start trying to fix the economy?

Agreed.

When will the president actually do what's good for the country and the economy and stop trying to implement Republican solutions.

If Mr. Obama's presidency has taught us anything, it is that Republican policies DO. NOT. WORK.

What Republican solutions is Obammster trying to implement?

Lower taxes? No.
Secure borders? No.
Smaller government? No. (Although the pubs haven't shown that they are adept at that, either.)
Adherence to the law and Constitution? No.
Strong economy? No.
Transparency in government? No.
Strong military? No.
National security? No.

If Obama's regime has taught us anything, it's that you can't put a Marxist in the White House and expect anything other than Marxist policies to be rammed down America's throats.



Do you know how I can tell you've both never taken a Political Science course, and only watch Fox News?
 
2012-06-17 02:12:54 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Turbo Cojones: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: eraser8: david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.

How so? Be specific.
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notsureifyouareserious

Completely serious.

Insinuation isn't good enough. Specifics, please.

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Ok. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your falling off of the proverbial turnip truck.

According to Obama's personal news outlet he just granted "amnesty" to "1.4 million" illegal aliens and put them in competition for jobs against the unemployed 18-30 your old citizens of the US. "Amnesty" and "1.4 million" are not my words, but that of his personal media outlet.

Link

Isn't that EXACTLY what Reagan did? Except Reagan included adults as well, AND he gave them full legal status. All Obama promises is not to deport them. RTFA.

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So what you are saying is that since Regan was an idiot His Majesty gets a free pass? Talk about derp.


Didn't you just say that the Washington Post was the President's "personal media outlet"?
You have no business accusing anyone of talking about derp.
 
2012-06-17 02:31:46 PM  

Fark It: accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.

If you don't respect the country enough to do things the legit way, why would you respect our other laws concerning taxes/driving/etc?

Immigration is a great thing when done properly.

Protip: it doesn't help your case when you take your entire non english speaking family to the emergency room for a standard cold. Illegals clogging up our (already) piss poor health care system sucks - even with insurance I walk out of there with a $1000 bill, while they walk out never paying a dime.


My whole point is that I'm tired of helping take care of everyone else via my tax dollars. Kick them all out and if they want to apply the legit way I'd welcome them with open arms.

Racist. Republican. Anti-immigrant.

/it seems there's no place at the table for people who don't line up with either the "open borders forever, let everyone stay" or "deport everyone" crowds


What race are illegal aliens, dickwad?
 
2012-06-17 02:34:21 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It's good to see Sheriff Joe is still waging his war to make Arizona an Aryan paradise.


www.shlomohsherman.com

Does not approve.
 
2012-06-17 02:36:21 PM  

eraser8: Any non-Aryan who thinks he's going to be spared by the Germans, if the hardliners get their way, is a goddamned idiot.


static.guim.co.uk

Somewhat confused on this point.
 
2012-06-17 02:40:58 PM  

shotglasss: If Obama's regime has taught us anything, it's that you can't put a Marxist in the White House and expect anything other than Marxist policies to be rammed down America's throats. conservatives and racists don't know what the word "Marxist" means


FTFY.

And no, I'm not saying you're a racist. You might be. Or you just might be an idiot.
 
2012-06-17 03:01:38 PM  

Fissile: For years I've been saying legalize them, or kick them, out and close the border, but lets stop the games and exploitation.

Instead big business and their bought Republican whores prefer to allow them to stay illegally. Businesses like exploiting illegal labor, low wages, no withholding, no benefits of any type. They are easily intimidated and threatened, "Julio, you're working 30 hours OT this week with no time and a half. Don't like it? I'll call INS have have your ass deported." Business also loves the leverage illegal workers give them over citizens. "What? You want $20/hr? Listen, shiat-head, I can hire 3 illegals for that kind of money."

Now that these people are legal, business will have to comply with the law. To sum up: Fark you, tea-tards. You're too stupid to understand where you own self interest lies.


God you are so infantile. Which groups were.trying to stop Arizona's employer sanction laws? It wasn't conservatives. Stop lying and saying this is what the left wants when they fought.the law at every step.
 
2012-06-17 03:25:45 PM  
"It's sad to use the kids as a political tool to get a certain segment of our society's vote," Arpaio said.

Really? REALLY?
 
2012-06-17 04:06:49 PM  

Clyde_Suckfinger: Funny how Arpaio hasn't been found guilty to actually have broken any laws. He's only trying to keep out people who are in his state illegally. Is there any proof that he's harassed anyone who's legally here?


"Reza was arrested by Arpaio's deputies twice in 2010, including once for simply standing across the street from the sheriff's news conference."

As Feds Sue Arpaio, Criminal Investigation Still Looms

Department of Justice Lawsuit Against Arpaio Sends Strong Message


"In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law.[57] As of 2012 he continues to do so.[58]"

Wikipedia

Any other questions you can't Google answers for yourself?
 
2012-06-17 04:08:10 PM  

MyRandomName: Fissile: For years I've been saying legalize them, or kick them, out and close the border, but lets stop the games and exploitation.

Instead big business and their bought Republican whores prefer to allow them to stay illegally. Businesses like exploiting illegal labor, low wages, no withholding, no benefits of any type. They are easily intimidated and threatened, "Julio, you're working 30 hours OT this week with no time and a half. Don't like it? I'll call INS have have your ass deported." Business also loves the leverage illegal workers give them over citizens. "What? You want $20/hr? Listen, shiat-head, I can hire 3 illegals for that kind of money."

Now that these people are legal, business will have to comply with the law. To sum up: Fark you, tea-tards. You're too stupid to understand where you own self interest lies.

God you are so infantile. Which groups were.trying to stop Arizona's employer sanction laws? It wasn't conservatives. Stop lying and saying this is what the left wants when they fought.the law at every step.


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Sorry, but this is what the RIGHT wants.....a huge pool of semi-slaves that drive down wages for everyone except the 1%. This country could have easily closed the border if wanted too. Back in the 1950's the feds managed to get over a million illegals out of the country. Ever hear of "Operation Wetback"? Google is your friend, moran. If Eisenhower could do it, why hasn't any other president managed to repeat his success? BECAUSE BIG BUSINESS WANTS ILLEGALS. You can not go back and reattaching your lips to Rush Limbaugh's sphincter now.
 
2012-06-17 04:16:17 PM  

accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.
.


... but what if the illegal looks like Salma Hayek circa 1990s?
 
2012-06-17 04:31:19 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: accelerus: You could be the whitest bastard from Sweden, or the Brownest from Mexico -- illegal is illegal. And until you do it the legit way I want em' all gone.
.

... but what if the illegal looks like Salma Hayek circa 1990s?


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Then I'll agree to a sham marriage so she can get a green card, but I want 6 months worth of sex as payment.
 
2012-06-17 05:01:20 PM  

Fissile: Sorry, but this is what the RIGHT 1% who own both political parties wants.....a huge pool of semi-slaves that drive down wages for everyone except the 1%.


The free trade agreements that allowed the 1% to move the jobs out of America without paying any sort of financial penalty (as they would have in the past) were completely bipartisan.

Obama pretended to oppose this when he was running for office, but is even now negotiating to give corporations even more power through these sorts of agreements.

A critical document from President Barack Obama's free trade negotiations with eight Pacific nations was leaked online early Wednesday morning, revealing that the administration intends to bestow radical new political powers upon multinational corporations, contradicting prior promises.

The leaked document has been posted on the website of Citizens Trade Campaign, a long-time critic of the administration's trade objectives. The new leak follows substantial controversy surrounding the secrecy of the talks, in which some members of Congress have complained they are not being given the same access to trade documents that corporate officials receive.

"The outrageous stuff in this leaked text may well be why U.S. trade officials have been so extremely secretive about these past two years of [trade] negotiations," said Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch in a written statement.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) has been so incensed by the lack of access as to introduce legislation requiring further disclosure. House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has gone so far as to leak a separate document from the talks on his website. Other Senators are considering writing a letter to Ron Kirk, the top trade negotiator under Obama, demanding more disclosure.


Radical new powers for Corporations? Just what we need.

Stop pretending the problem is just with the right. Both political parties have been selling us out for some time now.
 
2012-06-17 05:04:36 PM  

GDubDub: Subby is a farking c*ck. TFA didn't say what was suggested. Girl was a victim in human smuggling. If she hadn't been "arrested" she would have ended up locked in a closet, let out only to service balding old fat white men.


While I don't think Arpio needed to arrest her, and just putting her in protective custody legally would have worked, for him this is outright heroic.

/Hope the kids' parents can be found and she's okay.
 
2012-06-17 05:17:25 PM  

sethstorm: CtrlAltDestroy: [blogs.ilw.com image 640x414]

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That only reinforces the idea that immigration done properly has value to it. If you're just going to be lazy and not go through the proper procedure, there's always Europe and its metric farkton of illegals. Arizona is being too kind even for Arpaio and those in Arizona who favor strong enforcement.

The only things to scrap would be all the guest worker programs. They have no purpose outside of making things worse for citizens. Shame that AZEIR, a pro-amnesty employer group, had Utah enact such a program that bypasses citizens.


Bullshiat. Our immigration system is farked up. It takes way too long and way too much money ($10,000+ per person, easily) to become a citizen. All our system does is make it unnecessarily difficult. It's government reinforced xenophiba. We all came from elsewhere yet so many want to keep this stolen land for ourselves. So many want deny others the chance that our ancestors had, the very chance that led to them being here at all. It's nothing more than another, "I got mine, fark you."

It's shameful how far we've fallen as a nation.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-17 05:23:54 PM  

Clyde_Suckfinger: Funny how Arpaio hasn't been found guilty to actually have broken any laws. He's only trying to keep out people who are in his state illegally. Is there any proof that he's harassed anyone who's legally here?

He's an elected official isn't he? If he's so horrible, why hasn't he been voted out? Seems he's survived three elections, and not one of them was really close. Hell, they couldn't even get enough signatures for a recall vote in '07 (I guess they needed more union goons down there).

Sounds to me like a bunch of entitled whiners, in Che' t-shirts, complaining about someone who actually follows the rule of law. Convict the man, and then you can play your bongos and sing hateful songs about him.


How can I tell you don't live in Phoenix AZ?

You people really need to read not only "Phoenix New Times" but also the "Arizona Republic". Go into their archive and put in Arpaio's name into the search engine. Read the articles and be enlighten.

BTW Sheriff "Nickle Bag" Joe Apaio didn't care about the illegals until the last election.
BTW the nickname was given to Joe by his formal law enforcement officers. He was called that because Joe would only do the minimum.
BTW when questioned about Sheriff Joe's involvement in the "French Connection". People who were really involved in that case answered back, who's Joe Apaio?
BTW Sheriff Joe doesn't care about the sexually molested children in El Mirage.
 
2012-06-17 05:59:00 PM  
every time Obama is called a 'Marxist' in a foregone-conclusion/it-is-known kinda way

god kills a kitten.

out of desperate frustration.
 
2012-06-17 06:01:21 PM  

ciberido: Clyde_Suckfinger: Funny how Arpaio hasn't been found guilty to actually have broken any laws. He's only trying to keep out people who are in his state illegally. Is there any proof that he's harassed anyone who's legally here?

"Reza was arrested by Arpaio's deputies twice in 2010, including once for simply standing across the street from the sheriff's news conference."

As Feds Sue Arpaio, Criminal Investigation Still Looms

Department of Justice Lawsuit Against Arpaio Sends Strong Message


"In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law.[57] As of 2012 he continues to do so.[58]"

Wikipedia

Any other questions you can't Google answers for yourself?


You're citing criminal investgations and allegations. Come back when you find something he's actually been convicted, or found guilty in a court of law, of. Maybe you can try Google Answers?

Just because this is a matter of "not liking what you like," as the meme goes, doesn't mean the guy is guilty.
 
2012-06-17 06:19:58 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: 1.bp.blogspot.com


Notice that mentions a "golden door". Those that come in legally via the door are indeed welcome. It's the ones that sneak in through the window that I don't like.
 
2012-06-17 06:31:46 PM  

fredklein: CtrlAltDestroy: 1.bp.blogspot.com

Notice that mentions a "golden door". Those that come in legally via the door are indeed welcome. It's the ones that sneak in through the window that I don't like.


I'm pretty sure that you missed the point of that graphic.
 
2012-06-17 06:33:12 PM  
Clyde_Suckfinger 2012-06-17 06:01:21 PM


Just because this is a matter of "not liking what you like," as the meme goes, doesn't mean the guy is guilty.

B-b-b-but BILL AYRES.
 
2012-06-17 06:36:40 PM  

fredklein: Notice that mentions a "golden door". Those that come in legally via the door are indeed welcome. It's the ones that sneak in through the window that I don't like.


THIS. We should not let the illegals with unknown health status, vaccination records, and criminal histories cut in line ahead of legal immigrants. The legal immigration process would be fairer, run much smoother, and cheaper if the illegals were not clogging up our system.
 
2012-06-17 07:12:22 PM  

Protricity: every time Obama is called a 'Marxist' in a foregone-conclusion/it-is-known kinda way

god kills a kitten.

out of desperate frustration.


Satan kills one too, but faptasticly.
 
2012-06-17 07:17:38 PM  

Alleyoop: fredklein: Notice that mentions a "golden door". Those that come in legally via the door are indeed welcome. It's the ones that sneak in through the window that I don't like.

THIS. We should not let the illegals with unknown health status, vaccination records, and criminal histories cut in line ahead of legal immigrants. The legal immigration process would be fairer, run much smoother, and cheaper if the illegals were not clogging up our system.


You do know that at the time this was written, the sum total of the hoops to jump through were... what's your name? and where are you from? ...Right?
 
2012-06-17 07:31:09 PM  

Clyde_Suckfinger: ciberido: Clyde_Suckfinger: Funny how Arpaio hasn't been found guilty to actually have broken any laws. He's only trying to keep out people who are in his state illegally. Is there any proof that he's harassed anyone who's legally here?

"Reza was arrested by Arpaio's deputies twice in 2010, including once for simply standing across the street from the sheriff's news conference."

As Feds Sue Arpaio, Criminal Investigation Still Looms

Department of Justice Lawsuit Against Arpaio Sends Strong Message


"In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law.[57] As of 2012 he continues to do so.[58]"

Wikipedia

Any other questions you can't Google answers for yourself?

You're citing criminal investgations and allegations. Come back when you find something he's actually been convicted, or found guilty in a court of law, of. Maybe you can try Google Answers?

Just because this is a matter of "not liking what you like," as the meme goes, doesn't mean the guy is guilty.


An ongoing investigation is ongoing, asshat. That any law enforcement officer let alone a sheriff has multiple ongoing criminal investigations against him might send up a red flag for most people...
Not anything to do with like or dislike at all.
 
2012-06-17 07:53:40 PM  
Damn illegals firing drugs out of their smuggled firearms at our jobs.
 
2012-06-17 07:55:55 PM  

sno man: You do know that at the time this was written, the sum total of the hoops to jump through were... what's your name? and where are you from? ...Right?


Regardless of the time or the extent of the screening, we didn't allow citizens of other countries write our rules.

sno man: An ongoing investigation is ongoing, asshat. That any law enforcement officer let alone a sheriff has multiple ongoing criminal investigations against him might send up a red flag for most people...
Not anything to do with like or dislike at all.


If that's your standard, isn't it OK to ask immigration status of suspects when they are being investigated?
 
2012-06-17 07:57:44 PM  
Sounds like subby just had his shipment of preteen sex slaves intercepted. Poor guy. Sorry that law enforcement is, well, enforcing the law like that.
 
2012-06-17 08:20:08 PM  

david_gaithersburg: On June 15th, 2012 the president of the U.S. told the unemployed youth of America go to hell. We shall never forget that day.


You really do talk a load of codswallop don't you?
 
2012-06-17 08:22:48 PM  

Alleyoop: sno man: You do know that at the time this was written, the sum total of the hoops to jump through were... what's your name? and where are you from? ...Right?

Regardless of the time or the extent of the screening, we didn't allow citizens of other countries write our rules.


But re-writing and over complicating the rules every few years is so helpful to everyone.

sno man: An ongoing investigation is ongoing, asshat. That any law enforcement officer let alone a sheriff has multiple ongoing criminal investigations against him might send up a red flag for most people...
Not anything to do with like or dislike at all.

If that's your standard, isn't it OK to ask immigration status of suspects when they are being investigated?


if, by investigated, you mean stopped on the street for being brown.... no
if, by investigated for (insert actual crime of choice here) yea, why not?
 
2012-06-17 09:56:25 PM  
And?

Obviously we need to find her family so they can be sent back home with her but what does age have to do with it? The law is the law.
 
2012-06-18 02:03:47 AM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Bullshiat. Our immigration system is farked up. It takes way too long and way too much money ($10,000+ per person, easily) to become a citizen. All our system does is make it unnecessarily difficult. It's government reinforced xenophobia. We all came from elsewhere yet so many want to keep this stolen land for ourselves. So many want deny others the chance that our ancestors had, the very chance that led to them being here at all. It's nothing more than another, "I got mine, fark you."

Admirable, but still not an excuse for justifying the existence of illegals or any border crossings resulting in the survival of any human beings that attempt it. Otherwise we put up with lawlessness evidenced by these kinds of signs:

www.uwsdwf.org
 
2012-06-18 02:05:12 AM  
Can't the underage illegals be naturalized by subtracting them from their origin countries' legal immigration quotas? Of course there are so many illegals who entered this way there would basically be no more legal immigration until the year 2525.
 
2012-06-18 07:15:44 AM  
What if we just nuked Mexico to glass?
 
2012-06-18 08:37:57 AM  
Much better to just let her be used as a sex slave by the human traffickers, damn them for taking her from them/

/subby is a douche
 
2012-06-18 09:00:01 AM  

Jamieboy: ciberido: Lionel Mandrake: Sheriff Arpaio later announced that he would be forming a Posse to "go on a fact-finding mission to...um, I don't know...Mazatlan?"

Sheriff Arpaio is still in office? How has that clown managed to avoid being arrested?

I want to know when the sob is going to die.


I've met him and my brother actually knows him. It won't be long now. He's older than his biography and Wikipedia page say and clearly has signs of dementia.
 
2012-06-18 03:28:47 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Am I the only one that RTFA? She was travelling in a van with strangers. That isn't safe and she wasn't the only one apprehended.


She wasn't placed with a foster family. She was arrested.
 
2012-06-18 03:37:26 PM  

sethstorm: CtrlAltDestroy: [blogs.ilw.com image 640x414]

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That only reinforces the idea that immigration done properly has value to it. If you're just going to be lazy and not go through the proper procedure, there's always Europe and its metric farkton of illegals. Arizona is being too kind even for Arpaio and those in Arizona who favor strong enforcement.

The only things to scrap would be all the guest worker programs. They have no purpose outside of making things worse for citizens. Shame that AZEIR, a pro-amnesty employer group, had Utah enact such a program that bypasses citizens.


You did not read his post. But, yes, making it nearly impossible to legally immigrate into the USA increases the "value" of legal immigration.

jackass
 
2012-06-18 03:39:45 PM  

Tyee: One man is pandering for votes while the other is doing the job "the people", the citizens of Arizona and the United States have asked him to do.


I know I feel safer now that this six year old serious criminal is off the streets. I don't know how anyone could sleep at night with rogue six year olds prowling around.
 
2012-06-18 03:48:43 PM  

sethstorm: CtrlAltDestroy: Bullshiat. Our immigration system is farked up. It takes way too long and way too much money ($10,000+ per person, easily) to become a citizen. All our system does is make it unnecessarily difficult. It's government reinforced xenophobia. We all came from elsewhere yet so many want to keep this stolen land for ourselves. So many want deny others the chance that our ancestors had, the very chance that led to them being here at all. It's nothing more than another, "I got mine, fark you."

Admirable, but still not an excuse for justifying the existence of illegals or any border crossings resulting in the survival of any human beings that attempt it. Otherwise we put up with lawlessness evidenced by these kinds of signs:

[www.uwsdwf.org image 588x441]


Oh, a sign. Gosh, that changes everything.

There is a local "city" that disallowed the use of balls in the parks because the local old, white people are so hateful that they can not even bear the sight of a brown child playing. There is a sign posted at each park stating that the use of balls in the park is illegal. Clearly, this proves that balls are dangerous and must be avoided at all costs. Citizens should be advised to call 9-1-1 if they spot a ball.
 
2012-06-18 05:16:33 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Bullshiat. Our immigration system is farked up. It takes way too long and way too much money ($10,000+ per person, easily) to become a citizen. All our system does is make it unnecessarily difficult. It's government reinforced xenophiba



Um, the U.S. is BY FAR one of the easiest countries to immigrate too. We have far lower requirements than most first world nations. (Check out Canada where they require proof of employment and fluency in their national languages, for example.)

And the U.S. allows many more immigrants annually than any other nation on the face of the planet. Not just by a little bit more. But we allow 10 to 100 times the annual immigration of any other nation in the world.

BTW - The U.S. has the single largest population of 1st generation foreign born citizens of any nation in the world. Yeah that sounds real "xenophobic".

Your claims about the U.S. being xenophobic or difficult to immigrate to are demonstrably and easily proven false.

You are flat out a pathetic liar. I'm curious if we will hear back from you on the subject. Lol.
 
2012-06-18 06:02:28 PM  

Lunaville: You did not read his post. But, yes, making it nearly impossible to legally immigrate into the USA increases the "value" of legal immigration.


I did read & answer his post, just not with the pro-amnesty/Randian answer.

Despite the "convoluted" nature of becoming a citizen in the US, it is a lot easier than a lot of other countries.


Lunaville: Oh, a sign. Gosh, that changes everything.


Ok, then by all means don't be surprised when you run into some group that's well armed and knows they're not supposed to be there. Just don't tell us that you weren't warned.

You should also be lucky that napalm isnt being dropped on these people to discourage scattering & repeat visits. But then all the pro-amnesty side thinks of illegals are the desperate people that have done nothing wrong by bypassing proper channels.
 
2012-06-18 06:39:23 PM  

Joe Blowme: Much better to just let her be used as a sex slave by the human traffickers, damn them for taking her from them/

/subby is a douche


I JUST WANNA BE LOVED, IS THAT SO WRONG!?
 
2012-06-18 09:56:55 PM  

sethstorm: Lunaville: You did not read his post. But, yes, making it nearly impossible to legally immigrate into the USA increases the "value" of legal immigration.

I did read & answer his post, just not with the pro-amnesty/Randian answer.

Despite the "convoluted" nature of becoming a citizen in the US, it is a lot easier than a lot of other countries.


Lunaville: Oh, a sign. Gosh, that changes everything.

Ok, then by all means don't be surprised when you run into some group that's well armed and knows they're not supposed to be there. Just don't tell us that you weren't warned.

You should also be lucky that napalm isnt being dropped on these people to discourage scattering & repeat visits. But then all the pro-amnesty side thinks of illegals are the desperate people that have done nothing wrong by bypassing proper channels.


Well that neatly summarizes all that anyone needs to know about you.
 
2012-06-19 12:23:37 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: I'm pretty sure that you missed the point of that graphic


i'm pretty sure you haven't responded to the fact that it is wrong, and while you're at it perhaps you'd like to explain why it is misleading

on the left side it begins by talking about people wanting to come and work in America, but by the time you finish following the pied piper to the right it ends with some guy growing a beard which mysteriously became "full citizenship"

does one need to be a citizen in order to work and live in America?

also i can't help but notice that you aren't responding the the "open borders" question that many of your followers seem to be fond of, would anyone care to defend such a policy?

and you think the person you're responding to is missing the point?

how dare he complain about illegal immigrants, obviously he's a racist right wing nutjob big bussiness corporate shill

btw for those complaining about the immigration process taking sooo long, what with all those background checks (who cares if we let in a bunch of drug lords and terrorists?!) and verifying economic viability, perhaps we can speed up the process by re-routing all the funds we waste on illegal immigrant's health care, incarceration, legal expenses, food, housing, etc... and just use those funds to hire more LEGAL immigrant case workers...?

*waits for praise and adulation*
 
2012-06-19 05:17:51 PM  

Lunaville: You should also be lucky that napalm isnt being dropped on these people to discourage scattering & repeat visits. But then all the pro-amnesty side thinks of illegals are the desperate people that have done nothing wrong by bypassing proper channels.

Well that neatly summarizes all that anyone needs to know about you.


As with your defense of amnesty.
 
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