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2012-06-17 11:00:44 AM
Poor Mitt, all the money in the world can't buy him this election.
 
2012-06-17 11:02:15 AM
I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!
 
2012-06-17 11:03:55 AM
MSFT: Poor Mitt, all the money in the world can't buy him this election.

Wont stop them from trying. Remember WI.
 
2012-06-17 11:04:59 AM
o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!


Why hasnt he shown his transcripts along with his real birth certificate? As Mitt says, sauce that is good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
2012-06-17 11:07:39 AM
MSFT: o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!

Why hasnt he shown his transcripts along with his real birth certificate? As Mitt says, sauce that is good for the goose is good for the gander.


The certificate isn't so much important as the people he was involved with in Chicago. You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.
 
2012-06-17 11:10:21 AM
o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.
 
2012-06-17 11:15:05 AM
apoptotic: o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.


Didn't the mormons just recently allow The Blacks into their faith?
 
2012-06-17 11:16:07 AM
ghare: ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: FTA: George H.W. Bush was a war hero, a pilot shot down in the Pacific. All those other war heroes, going back to Zachary Taylor and Franklin Pierce.

Go back farther. It's okay.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x353]

George Washington wasn't exactly a great general. I mean, he didn't really have a great army that was well-supplied, but he still didn't show any real brilliance in tactics. But everyone liked him, which is a good thing. And he crossed rivers standing in the bow with his hand in his jacket like Napoleon, so there's that.

They appointed him general because he was tall. Really.


Kind of how we pick Presidents.

/I don't know why in the world Ross Perot thought he had a chance, especially after that debate where they all had barstools. Clinton and Bush could sit on the edge with their feet on the ground, but Perot looked like he needed help climbing up his.

www.gallerym.com
 
2012-06-17 11:20:36 AM
whereisian: In a sane world, we would be discussing his policies and vision.

Except doesn't Mitt change his fecking vision depending on his audience?
His policies, when he was governor, when he was running in the primary?
Yeah it the world's fault not Mittens
 
2012-06-17 11:20:45 AM
Gosh if only a mulatto fascist who was raised in Indonesia and smoked the dope in high school would run against him then we would have a real choice.
 
2012-06-17 11:21:06 AM
MSFT: apoptotic: o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.

Didn't the mormons just recently allow The Blacks into their faith?


Yes, AFTER Romney had become a minister and did his "missionary work" in France.
 
2012-06-17 11:24:41 AM
MSFT: apoptotic: o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.

Didn't the mormons just recently allow The Blacks into their faith?


It's more complicated than that, but the short answer is that full membership (including priesthood and temple privileges) was only granted by the leadership in 1978.
 
2012-06-17 11:25:02 AM
numbone: Gosh if only a mulatto fascist who was raised in Indonesia and smoked the dope in high school would run against him then we would have a real choice.

Yeah, instead we get a mulatto right-center capitalist who was raised in Indonesia and smoked the dope in high school.
 
2012-06-17 11:28:39 AM
o5iiawah: The certificate isn't so much important as the people he was involved with in Chicago. You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Thanks to Republicans, we already know that Barack Obama (if that is his real name) was the son of a communist pornographer and a white woman. Soetoro went on to convert to Islam in Indonesia where he got a job at his school, killing adult dogs and eating them whole. He was eventually promoted to killing puppies with sad, beady eyes. Much of this meat was famous in the United States thanks to various fast food chains featuring it in their meals, at least before the Amero was secretly introduced for private trading. After illegally immigrating to America, ackBar formed a marijuana smoking gang that forced marijuana on people that want the states to decide individually if marijuana should be forced on people. Now that Soetoro is the President, he uses chemtrails to brainwash the people in flyover states into hanging teabags from their hats.
 
2012-06-17 11:37:22 AM
o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!


Yeah, the autobiography and at-least-3 biographies don't actually have anything about his life at all. I mean, we haven't even heard that he was elected president! HE'S A CIPHER!

/Good lord man, get some professional help for your brain disorders.
 
2012-06-17 11:37:42 AM
o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!


Went over all of that 4 years ago. Old news. Move along.
 
2012-06-17 11:39:43 AM
mr intrepid: o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!

Went over all of that 4 years ago. Old news. Move along.


Derpsters think that whatever hasn't stuck for 4 years is now going to stick. It's just a religious belief of theirs, like trickle-down and the laffer curve and that teachers make too much while millionaires make too little. Doesn't have to make any sense.
 
2012-06-17 11:42:29 AM
ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: FTA: George H.W. Bush was a war hero, a pilot shot down in the Pacific. All those other war heroes, going back to Zachary Taylor and Franklin Pierce.

Go back farther. It's okay.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x353]

George Washington wasn't exactly a great general. I mean, he didn't really have a great army that was well-supplied, but he still didn't show any real brilliance in tactics. But everyone liked him, which is a good thing. And he crossed rivers standing in the bow with his hand in his jacket like Napoleon, so there's that.


It's worse than that, through youthful incompetence he single-handedly started the French and Indian War.

WikiLink

"Washington's military experience began in the French and Indian War with a commission as a major in the militia of the British Province of Virginia. In 1753 Washington was sent as an ambassador from the British crown to the French officials and Indians as far north as present-day Erie, Pennsylvania. The following year he led another expedition to the area to assist in the construction of a fort at present-day Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Before reaching that point, he and some of his men, accompanied by Indian allies, ambushed a French scouting party. Its leader was killed, although the exact circumstances of his death were disputed. This peacetime act of aggression is seen as one of the first military steps leading to the global Seven Years' War. The French responded by attacking fortifications Washington erected following the ambush, forcing his surrender. Released on parole, Washington and his troops returned to Virginia."
 
2012-06-17 11:43:43 AM
oh and once I saw a blimp: The fun will really start when he opens up, even a little, about Mormonism. Jeremiah Wright was nothing compared to some of the things Mormon leaders have said over the years, right up to the present day. The Adam-God stuff, Joseph Smith claiming to be the new Mohammed, the cover-ups, the salamanders, the anti-masturbation pamphlets, the Sisters in Zion lectures, blacks and the priesthood, and so much more. Buckle up, Mittens.

And you didn't even mention the planet Kolob.

spoiler: God is actually a cross between Buddha and Superman.
 
2012-06-17 11:53:49 AM
MSFT: apoptotic: o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.

Didn't the mormons just recently allow The Blacks into their faith?


1970's I think.

But I can't judge. My state didn't criminalize shooting Mormons until the 1970's.

/No, that's not a typo
//Welcome to Missouri
 
2012-06-17 11:59:53 AM
clambam: It's worse than that, through youthful incompetence he single-handedly started the French and Indian War.

WikiLink

"Washington's military experience began in the French and Indian War with a commission as a major in the militia of the British Province of Virginia. In 1753 Washington was sent as an ambassador from the British crown to the French officials and Indians as far north as present-day Erie, Pennsylvania. The following year he led another expedition to the area to assist in the construction of a fort at present-day Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Before reaching that point, he and some of his men, accompanied by Indian allies, ambushed a French scouting party. Its leader was killed, although the exact circumstances of his death were disputed. This peacetime act of aggression is seen as one of the first military steps leading to the global Seven Years' War. The French responded by attacking fortifications Washington erected following the ambush, forcing his surrender. Released on parole, Washington and his troops returned to Virginia."


ZOMG!!! This means his administration was a lie and John Adams is automatically President!
 
2012-06-17 12:09:40 PM
FishStampede: oh and once I saw a blimp: The fun will really start when he opens up, even a little, about Mormonism. Jeremiah Wright was nothing compared to some of the things Mormon leaders have said over the years, right up to the present day. The Adam-God stuff, Joseph Smith claiming to be the new Mohammed, the cover-ups, the salamanders, the anti-masturbation pamphlets, the Sisters in Zion lectures, blacks and the priesthood, and so much more. Buckle up, Mittens.

Okay, this I have to hear.


webpages.shepherd.edu
 
2012-06-17 12:11:16 PM
rynthetyn: Granted, there are a lot of reasons to criticize Mittens but my personal pet peeve with him is how he's spun his time in France. He makes it sound like in incredible hardship to have lived like the average French person lived in the '60s, which not only shows how out of touch he was with the average people of France at the time, it also shows a complete lack of adaptability.

It works for Republican voters, though. Very few have been outside the US, much less all the way across the Atlantic, and when they think "Europe," they think "Socialism," which in their minds conjures up images of grinding poverty and oppression, not unlike the waning years of the Soviet Union.

And all that, back in the 60's? God that must have been hard. Did France even have electricity back then?
 
2012-06-17 12:14:35 PM
So the only reason Romney has the nomination is because, as the second place finisher, he gets dibs in the hidebound repub nominating process. That means that, if Romney fails to win this election, Rick Santorum is the likely repub nominee in 2016. So the repubs really, really, really have to win this election or they are locked out of the White House until at least 2020, possibly even 2024. Maybe this is why the Romney camp has already gone overboard (vuvuzelas, anyone?) in its attacks on the Democrats.

Can the repubs survive 16 years in the political wilderness? Well they did during the Democratic ascendancy of the 1930's and 40's, but those were extraordinary times and in fact the emergency of World War II gave them the opportunity to drop a loser anti-Roosevelt strategy very similar to today's anti-Obama strategy tha was rapidly leading to repub irrelevance. On the other hand, it took only eight years of electoral failure to destroy the Whigs, the direct ancestors of today's repubs. Certainly 8 years of Democratic success under Clinton was enough to drive them sufficiently crazy to make Bush Jr. their candidate in 2000, not to mention their "get it while you can, I got mine and screw the rest of you" philosophy since then.

I have to say, the Democrats asked for and got a whole heap of unnecessary trouble by making Obama president in 2008. A white Democrat, male or female, in the White House simply would not have been the target of this much vitriol, and might have accomplished as much and more than Obama did without having to deal with the country's systemic racism. A black guy in the White House is simply unacceptable to a large percentage of the American population, and, sadly, dealing with that backlash unnecessarily complicates an already grave situation.
 
2012-06-17 12:15:38 PM
The Name: Did France even have electricity back then?

Yes. It was generated by mimes pulling imaginary ropes and walking against the wind. Unfortunately, the attempts at portable battery power by putting mimes in invisible boxes was unsuccessful.
 
2012-06-17 12:16:14 PM
files.myopera.com
 
2012-06-17 12:22:11 PM
FlashHarry: the sad thing is, if he doesn't and romney reimplements bush's failed policies of wealthy tax cutting and deregulation, when the economy really nosedives, he'll blame obama. and the media will concur.

To be fair, they were blaming Obama before he even took office.
 
2012-06-17 12:39:51 PM
Hobodeluxe: LarryDan43: My bumper sticker says Nobama! I don't care who the other guy is.

if Romney wins we will go to war with Iran,your worker's rights will be diminished as will your healthcare/retirement benefits and the income inequality in this country will grow exponentially.


So, except for Iran, things will continue as they have for the past three years.
 
2012-06-17 12:44:14 PM
BarkingUnicorn: Hobodeluxe: LarryDan43: My bumper sticker says Nobama! I don't care who the other guy is.

if Romney wins we will go to war with Iran,your worker's rights will be diminished as will your healthcare/retirement benefits and the income inequality in this country will grow exponentially.

So, except for Iran, things will continue as they have for the past three years.


And WHO do we have to thank for that?
 
2012-06-17 12:56:13 PM
The Name: rynthetyn: Granted, there are a lot of reasons to criticize Mittens but my personal pet peeve with him is how he's spun his time in France. He makes it sound like in incredible hardship to have lived like the average French person lived in the '60s, which not only shows how out of touch he was with the average people of France at the time, it also shows a complete lack of adaptability.

It works for Republican voters, though. Very few have been outside the US, much less all the way across the Atlantic, and when they think "Europe," they think "Socialism," which in their minds conjures up images of grinding poverty and oppression, not unlike the waning years of the Soviet Union.

And all that, back in the 60's? God that must have been hard. Did France even have electricity back then?


Very true about the ideas GOP voters probably have, never mind that back in the '60s, it was still the era when the only Americans who went abroad to Europe were the wealthy--the middle class were only just starting to think about foreign travel. Heck, even my mom's year studying in England and traveling around Europe in the '60s was financed by the founder of Tropicana--they went to the same church, he found out she was saving money to try to go study in England and anonymously donated the funds (she found out years later who it was who paid for it).

/In a very real way, it's because of Tropicana orange juice that I didn't grow up a complete yokel like a lot of my relatives
 
2012-06-17 12:58:29 PM
NeverDrunk23: FlashHarry: the sad thing is, if he doesn't and romney reimplements bush's failed policies of wealthy tax cutting and deregulation, when the economy really nosedives, he'll blame obama. and the media will concur.

To be fair, they were blaming Obama before he even took office.


To be fairer, Obama does have that time machine.
 
2012-06-17 01:03:57 PM
Kome: NeverDrunk23: FlashHarry: the sad thing is, if he doesn't and romney reimplements bush's failed policies of wealthy tax cutting and deregulation, when the economy really nosedives, he'll blame obama. and the media will concur.

To be fair, they were blaming Obama before he even took office.

To be fairer, Obama does have that time machine.


To be fairest of them all, he did use his time machine that he built during his 6th term as president of life to change my post.
 
2012-06-17 01:09:01 PM
If this election tells us anything, it will tell us how many in the population vote straight republican candidates regardless of Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus or Species status. Look at the republican presidential results from this November and you'll agree. I don't see how a single independent voter could vote for the shell of a candidate that is Rmoney. No one knows what his real position is besides being a rich guy.
 
2012-06-17 01:10:46 PM
NeverDrunk23: Kome: NeverDrunk23: FlashHarry: the sad thing is, if he doesn't and romney reimplements bush's failed policies of wealthy tax cutting and deregulation, when the economy really nosedives, he'll blame obama. and the media will concur.

To be fair, they were blaming Obama before he even took office.

To be fairer, Obama does have that time machine.

To be fairest of them all, he did use his time machine that he built during his 6th term as president of life to change my post.


To be most fairest, Obama used his mind control device he took from the Chinese in 2112 and forced me to type this sentence.
 
2012-06-17 01:17:36 PM
whereisian: In a sane world, we would be discussing his policies and vision.

I think the GOP would just as soon stay far away from that kind of campaign.
 
2012-06-17 01:25:10 PM
Guidette Frankentits: NeverDrunk23: Kome: NeverDrunk23: FlashHarry: the sad thing is, if he doesn't and romney reimplements bush's failed policies of wealthy tax cutting and deregulation, when the economy really nosedives, he'll blame obama. and the media will concur.

To be fair, they were blaming Obama before he even took office.

To be fairer, Obama does have that time machine.

To be fairest of them all, he did use his time machine that he built during his 6th term as president of life to change my post.

To be most fairest, Obama used his mind control device he took from the Chinese in 2112 and forced me to type this sentence.


Why did I read this with Geddy Lee's voice in my head?
 
2012-06-17 01:27:29 PM
I'm waiting for someone to find the printout with his error codes.

ERROR:: File HUMAN.DECENCY corrupted. Continue? [Y/N]
 
2012-06-17 01:29:22 PM
T-Servo: Ilmarinen: FlashHarry: mitt romney makes john kerry look like abe farking lincoln.

There seems to be a negative consensus about Kerry. I don't know a whole lot about him but I remember seeing a (very short) documentary on him and being rather impressed. Could somebody summarize what's bad about Kerry, for a poor foreigner?

He spoke French, was a moderate Massachusetts politician with no clear plan besides not being the incumbent, and whose money kept him from connecting with the people.

In other words, Kerry was Romney but with a military record (and as a SEAL, he was hardly just doing his time).


Bob Kerrey was a Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor recipient. John Kerry's first tour in Vietnam was miles off-shore with the "blue water" Navy, and applied for a transfer to smaller swiftboats to patrol the rivers of Vietnam for his second tour. His highest award was the Silver Star.
 
2012-06-17 01:42:09 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "They were not easy years. You have to understand, I was raised in a lovely neighborhood, as was Mitt, and at BYU, we moved into a $62-a-month basement apartment with a cement floor and lived there two years as students with no income. It was tiny. And I didn't have money to carpet the floor. But you can get remnants, samples, so I glued them together, all different colors. It looked awful, but it was carpeting.

"We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time. The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year-it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

"Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons."


This biatch is delusional. Choosing not to liquidate your funds is not in the same hellhole at all as having no funds to liquidate in the first place. It's not a hellhole at all. It's just choosing not to liquidate your funds. You come out of it thinking that if you can live like that, then everybody else does, too.

- " he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year-it wasn't much, a few thousand" biatch, please!

- "but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself" - so daddy the executive buys stock in the company he works for, and his 'believing in' his own company translates into his son believing in himself? is that the implication we're supposed to make? how is the father believing in his company the same as the son believing in anything? all the son did is cash dividend checks.

What did RMoney do for American Motors when he came of age? jack, and shiat. he's no Ford or Busch.

and what's Mrs. Romney do, except sit on her ass and mimick the clown car know as the Duggars? just because she's worthless doesn't mean every other female in the country has a husband's trust fund to sit on their ass with. some people gotta work while they raise a family.

/p.s. Silver and Jain did the robot-and-rich-girl in the hood schtick better
 
2012-06-17 01:43:56 PM
apoptotic: o5iiawah: You can best believe that if Romney's pastor was a white supremacist, we'd know about it.

Considering the history of the Mormon church, that is such a bad example that if I didn't already have your posts marked in Safety Orange, I'd think that was a joke.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2012-06-17 01:56:33 PM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "They were not easy years. You have to understand, I was raised in a lovely neighborhood, as was Mitt, and at BYU, we moved into a $62-a-month basement apartment with a cement floor and lived there two years as students with no income. It was tiny. And I didn't have money to carpet the floor. But you can get remnants, samples, so I glued them together, all different colors. It looked awful, but it was carpeting.

"We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time. The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year-it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

"Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons."

This biatch is delusional. Choosing not to liquidate your funds is not in the same hellhole at all as having no funds to liquidate in the first place. It's not a hellhole at all. It's just choosing not to liquidate your funds. You come out of it thinking that if you can live like that, then everybody else does, too.

- " he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year-it wasn't much, a few thousand" biatch, please!

- "but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself" - so daddy the executive buys stock in the company he works for, and his 'believing in' his own company translates into his son believing in himself? is that the implication we're supposed to make? how is the father believing in his company the same as the son believing in anything? all the son did is cash dividend checks.

What did RMoney do for American Motors when he came of age? jack, and shiat. he's no Ford or Busc ...


The whole thing reminds me of one of my law school classmates suggesting that I should just ask my parents to front me the money to open a Tim Hortons franchise when I mentioned my idea to open one to make money off of Canadian snowbirds. Except that well, it's one thing for a 23 year old recent college grad to be oblivious to the idea that not everyone has parents who can fund their business ideas, it's completely another thing altogether for Mitt and Anne Romney to have no clue that most people don't live like they did. The Romneys are old enough and have lived long enough that they should know better.
 
2012-06-17 01:58:06 PM
whereisian: In a sane world, we would be discussing his policies and vision.

Ummmm, that's kinda the point of TFA.
 
2012-06-17 02:09:24 PM
Ilmarinen: FlashHarry: mitt romney makes john kerry look like abe farking lincoln.

There seems to be a negative consensus about Kerry. I don't know a whole lot about him but I remember seeing a (very short) documentary on him and being rather impressed. Could somebody summarize what's bad about Kerry, for a poor foreigner?


There's nothing wrong with Kerry. He's bright, articulate, and a war hero.

But he lost, mostly due to being too decent to take the low road, as Bush did. (He could have destroyed Bush as a draft-dodging irresponsible serial failure.) So he gets pegged as a weak candidate.

So it goes. Politics is a tough job for decent people. That's why you don't see many decent politicians.
 
2012-06-17 02:11:49 PM
swahnhennessy: The Republicans ... a flood of Santorum, I suppose.

The Republican trickle-down.
 
2012-06-17 02:15:09 PM
Sgt Otter: T-Servo: Ilmarinen: FlashHarry: mitt romney makes john kerry look like abe farking lincoln.

There seems to be a negative consensus about Kerry. I don't know a whole lot about him but I remember seeing a (very short) documentary on him and being rather impressed. Could somebody summarize what's bad about Kerry, for a poor foreigner?

He spoke French, was a moderate Massachusetts politician with no clear plan besides not being the incumbent, and whose money kept him from connecting with the people.

In other words, Kerry was Romney but with a military record (and as a SEAL, he was hardly just doing his time).


Bob Kerrey was a Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor recipient. John Kerry's first tour in Vietnam was miles off-shore with the "blue water" Navy, and applied for a transfer to smaller swiftboats to patrol the rivers of Vietnam for his second tour. His highest award was the Silver Star.


My mistake.
 
2012-06-17 02:24:24 PM
knobmaker: Ilmarinen: FlashHarry: mitt romney makes john kerry look like abe farking lincoln.

There seems to be a negative consensus about Kerry. I don't know a whole lot about him but I remember seeing a (very short) documentary on him and being rather impressed. Could somebody summarize what's bad about Kerry, for a poor foreigner?

There's nothing wrong with Kerry. He's bright, articulate, and a war hero.

But he lost, mostly due to being too decent to take the low road, as Bush did. (He could have destroyed Bush as a draft-dodging irresponsible serial failure.) So he gets pegged as a weak candidate.

So it goes. Politics is a tough job for decent people. That's why you don't see many decent politicians.


There is a lot of evidence that says Kerry didn't lose in 2004.

I'm not necessarily saying it is so. You can judge for yourself.
 
2012-06-17 02:25:46 PM
o5iiawah: I love it how Every aspect of Romney's childhood, adolescence, teenage years, college, post-college, professional, public, married and charitable life is under the tightest of scrutiny.

yet whenever anyone brings up anything in Obama's life before 2007, the retort is: OMG! DERRRRRPPPP!!!!!


And yet when anyone tried to discuss the multiple felonies in George Bush's past, Republicans would whine that Democrats were "playing politics" and "living in the past" and "diverting attention from the issues."

FFS, I can't stand hypocrites.
 
2012-06-17 02:28:45 PM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: - "but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself" - so daddy the executive buys stock in the company he works for, and his 'believing in' his own company translates into his son believing in himself? is that the implication we're supposed to make? how is the father believing in his company the same as the son believing in anything? all the son did is cash dividend checks.

What did RMoney do for American Motors when he came of age? jack, and shiat. he's no Ford or Busch.


And I think that's another big problem for him. As the article mentioned, his dad was a decent guy who was a successful businessman and governor. But his dad also was a CEO of a car company. You know, like the car companies that Mitt said should just go bankrupt. You bring up his dad and all the "real Americans" who are Republicans despite getting laid off from their union factory jobs will remember what a jackass that guy is towards working middle-class people in this country.
 
2012-06-17 02:33:48 PM
Egon: The architect's name was Karl Rove. I found it in Tobin's Spirit Guide. He was also a spin doctor, performed a lot of unnecessary derpery. And then in 1920, he started a secret society...
Peter: Let me guess: Money worshippers.
Egon: Right.
Peter (to Ray): No studying.
Egon: After the Clinton years, Rove decided that America was too sick to survive. And he wasn't alone, he had close to a thousand followers when he died. They conducted rituals up on the roof. Bizarre rituals, intended to bring about the *end of the world*, and now it looks like they think Romney could make it happen.
Peter: So be good! For goodness' sake, whoa! Somebody's comin'! Somebody's comin'!
 
2012-06-17 02:43:30 PM
HeartBurnKid: Bigdogdaddy: Let's see:
Ford: I'm not Nixon Dole: I'm not Clinton
Gore: I'm not Clinton Kerry: I'm not Bush
McCain: I'm not Bush
How'd that work for those guys?
Romney: I'm not Obama.
Good luck with that Mitt

FTFY.


McGovern: I'm not Nixon.
 
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