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2012-06-16 10:31:42 PM  
If only science could come up with a cure for nagging...
 
2012-06-16 10:32:10 PM  
I work with about 15 surgeons-5 of whom do back surgeries, it is quite common for them to tell patients to loose say.....100 (!) pounds before even possibly talking about surgery. Even though the relative merits of BMI are debated, someone with a BMI of 49.8 is a human cue ball. How can the skeletal structure function when its so over loaded? I see it all day, every day. It's getting so bad, that even the largest wheel chairs aren't quite big enough for some patients.......let alone getting them through the exam room door......
 
2012-06-16 10:33:26 PM  

Artist: I work with about 15 surgeons-5 of whom do back surgeries, it is quite common for them to tell patients to loose say.....100 (!) pounds before even possibly talking about surgery. Even though the relative merits of BMI are debated, someone with a BMI of 49.8 is a human cue ball. How can the skeletal structure function when its so over loaded? I see it all day, every day. It's getting so bad, that even the largest wheel chairs aren't quite big enough for some patients.......let alone getting them through the exam room door......


Is this a "yo mama so fat" joke gone horribly askew?
 
2012-06-16 10:33:57 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

Um... Stop. Seriously. You are obviously a moron. Do you know what the "H" in HFCS stands for? High. As in HIGH fructose corn syrup. HFCS has HIGH fructose, while sugar has NO fructose at all. So yeah, HFCS is far worse than sugar. I hope the corn lobby paid you well for your public schilling.

/sarcasm off


I know you are being sarcastic but it is surprising how so many people don't know that table sugar is half fructose and half sucrose. And that people think eating fruit is very good when that's just ALL fructose. Sigh.
 
2012-06-16 10:35:12 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Everything in moderation, but those who abuse sugar deserve a good caning.


I see it-what you did there.
 
2012-06-16 10:36:29 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

Um... Stop. Seriously. You are obviously a moron. Do you know what the "H" in HFCS stands for? High. As in HIGH fructose corn syrup. HFCS has HIGH fructose, while sugar has NO fructose at all. So yeah, HFCS is far worse than sugar. I hope the corn lobby paid you well for your public schilling.

/sarcasm off


You seriously almost had me pissed off, until I saw your slashy. Good job.
 
2012-06-16 10:36:48 PM  
Link

Sorry I couldn't find the whole song...
 
2012-06-16 10:37:14 PM  

miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.


HFCS is a liquid and therefore needs preservatives to to avoid spoilage during shipping and warehousing (usually sulfites are added). Granulated sugar is dry and can be warehoused for six months without the need for preservatives.
 
2012-06-16 10:37:48 PM  

vodka: eliminating added sugars - could reverse America's deadliest and costliest ills, including obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease and many cancers, experts say.

Yeah right, like all the fat and processing has nothing to do with it. It's all because of sugar HFCS.


.There is too much money made by Big Pharma to allow anything or anyone to "cure" anything.

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2012-06-16 10:38:11 PM  

DrPainMD: I remember the good old days, when liberals said, "it's my body... I'll do what I want with it."


i.qkme.me
 
2012-06-16 10:38:21 PM  

Dr.Zom: LarryDan43: Sugar or corn syrup?

I'm old enough to remember the 70s and 80s when everybody ate sugar all the time and yet no one was really fat. Fat people were an anomaly. And more importantly, YOU NEVER SAW MUFFINTOPS.

I repeat, that roll of fat around the middle of an otherwise normal shaped human, was rare as hell. That never showed up until HFCS started being added to everything. There's something about that shiat that condenses fat around the middle.


As much as I love blaming corporations for stuff, HFCS is simply no different than sugar. It's about the same ratio of glucose and fructose, the ONLY difference is that in sucrose (sugar), there's a weak bond between them, making it a disaccharide form.

That bond gets broken before absorption into the digestive system, and it breaks pretty quickly. Then it's identical glucose+fructose molecules to HFCS.
 
2012-06-16 10:38:46 PM  
I wonder who sponsored the page break that puts this sentence at the end of the first page:

"Eliminating all sugar is a very drastic approach," said Michelle Stewart, a registered dietitian and certified diabetes educator from Hollywood, Fla. "The all-or-nothing approach doesn't work. It's not sustainable."

And this sentence on the next page, which most readers will not click through to:

All foods fit in a healthy diet, said Stewart, a paid consultant for theCoca-Cola Co. "Sugar is completely safe and should not be treated like alcohol. Having a healthy, balanced diet doesn't mean giving up everything that tastes good. The focus should be on calorie balance and moderation."

/adjusts tinfoil
 
2012-06-16 10:38:51 PM  

Elephantman: trivial use of my dark powers: Fat people don't cost the system big gobs of money anymore than the smokers--they tend to die before they get elderly and become REALLY expensive.

All you health freaks, you're costing all of us, you selfish preeks. Put down the tofu and eat some fries for heaven's sake.


It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.

The researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.
On average, healthy people lived 84 years. Smokers lived about 77 years, and obese people lived about 80 years. Smokers and obese people tended to have more heart disease than the healthy people.
Cancer incidence, except for lung cancer, was the same in all three groups. Obese people had the most diabetes, and healthy people had the most strokes. Ultimately, the thin and healthy group cost the most, about $417,000, from age 20 on.
The cost of care for obese people was $371,000, and for smokers, about $326,000.
The results counter the common perception that preventing obesity will save health systems worldwide millions of dollars.

"Lung cancer is a cheap disease to treat because people don't survive very long," van Baal said. "But if they are old enough to get Alzheimer's one day, they may survive longer and cost more."


You see as a smoker I'm doing my patriotic duty as an American. I support American jobs (tobacco growers and cigarette makers) I shop local (mom and pop liquor store near me) I support the government (cigarette taxes and dying quicker to save them even more money)...but yet we are still considered sub-human...run out of bars...banned from beaches..now even banned from smoking in our own homes. Us smokers should be celebrated for our selfless service to this country. We sacrifice ourselves so that the non-smokers can die a long agonizing death in retirement homes without the guilt of overtaxing the government to provide for them. We should all get a medal of Freedom for smoking! We should get a national holiday! I want a parade dammit with those big balloons of cartoon characters! I am a smoker! I do it for the world!
 
2012-06-16 10:39:26 PM  
We've went to drinking straight water around here, going on four months now. As well as cutting out candy, etc.

/A time or two a week we'll mix in some sugar-free Kool-Aid with the drinking water in a glass.
//Only other sugar we get is from ice cream or cookies, which are had in moderation maybe every two weeks on a night off. Mostly for the kids.
 
2012-06-16 10:39:48 PM  

miss marla singer: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

Um... Stop. Seriously. You are obviously a moron. Do you know what the "H" in HFCS stands for? High. As in HIGH fructose corn syrup. HFCS has HIGH fructose, while sugar has NO fructose at all. So yeah, HFCS is far worse than sugar. I hope the corn lobby paid you well for your public schilling.

/sarcasm off

I know you are being sarcastic but it is surprising how so many people don't know that table sugar is half fructose and half sucrose. And that people think eating fruit is very good when that's just ALL fructose. Sigh.


By Sucrose I mean glucose, of course.
 
2012-06-16 10:41:08 PM  

Elephantman: trivial use of my dark powers: Fat people don't cost the system big gobs of money anymore than the smokers--they tend to die before they get elderly and become REALLY expensive.

All you health freaks, you're costing all of us, you selfish preeks. Put down the tofu and eat some fries for heaven's sake.


It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.

The researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.
On average, healthy people lived 84 years. Smokers lived about 77 years, and obese people lived about 80 years. Smokers and obese people tended to have more heart disease than the healthy people.
Cancer incidence, except for lung cancer, was the same in all three groups. Obese people had the most diabetes, and healthy people had the most strokes. Ultimately, the thin and healthy group cost the most, about $417,000, from age 20 on.
The cost of care for obese people was $371,000, and for smokers, about $326,000.
The results counter the common perception that preventing obesity will save health systems worldwide millions of dollars.

"Lung cancer is a cheap disease to treat because people don't survive very long," van Baal said. "But if they are old enough to get Alzheimer's one day, they may survive longer and cost more."


Show off.
 
2012-06-16 10:43:11 PM  

Elephantman: It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.


I've heard of a study along those lines, funded by the tobacco industry. I'm not saying that it's wrong, but I'd really like to read that - do you have a reference?
 
2012-06-16 10:43:59 PM  

Blackwind: We've went to drinking straight water around here, going on four months now. As well as cutting out candy, etc.

/A time or two a week we'll mix in some sugar-free Kool-Aid with the drinking water in a glass.
//Only other sugar we get is from ice cream or cookies, which are had in moderation maybe every two weeks on a night off. Mostly for the kids.


Good for you. That gay water shiat tastes horrible.
 
2012-06-16 10:44:05 PM  

miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.


A Princeton University study shows this isn't true.
 
2012-06-16 10:44:10 PM  
If sugar is killing people, well, they it is their own fault. If they are weak, let them die. Blaming people's weakness on some inanimate molecule brings out my sarcastic disdain.

If someone does not care about themselves enough to spend a trivial amount of effort to correct the problem, why should I care for them?

They have free will, which means that they can be come fat, useless gobs to their heart's content, just don't ever expect me to lift one finger (save the middle one) for them or spend a single cent or effort on their behalf. If you are a fat gob, I will not move out of the way for you to get your fat sack past me. Dying of adult onset diabetes - tough, you should allowed to die painfully if you can not pay for the problem you created.

BTW, sugar is great. Weak fat gobs of human lard are not.
 
2012-06-16 10:44:16 PM  
Just eat the farking shiat and die already.
 
2012-06-16 10:44:57 PM  

boozerman: calorie consumption up + activity down= more obesity. But I guess that's too simple, doesn't give you something to blame, and isn't interesting enough to sell books about.


One of the reasons calorie consumption is up is because of all the added sugar in everything. Remember the "fat is bad" craze decades ago when everything started coming out in low fat versions? Guess what they replaced the fat with? That's right, sugar. Put the fat back in and take the sugar out, and people will eat fewer calories because your system tells your brain you are full sooner when you eat fat compared to sugar.
 
2012-06-16 10:46:30 PM  

Snapper Carr: I_Am_Weasel: Everything in moderation, but those who abuse sugar deserve a good caning.

Someone should beet you for that.


Unrefined and corny.
 
2012-06-16 10:46:59 PM  

GeneralJim: Sugar has long been known to be unhealthy. Many peer-reviewed articles, and media scare stories, including Fark references, have shown that. But the rush to tax and/or ban is simply farking stupid. Let people KNOW, by all means, and then let them decide.

/ Farking control freaks...


What the hell, I'll bite. Evolutionary biology shows that we've evolved to need coercion. The general populace can't control its appetite for sugar, so the state has to do it for them. I, for one, welcome our new Sugar Police overlords. Don't worry, you still have the right to bear arms.
 
2012-06-16 10:47:15 PM  

Oznog: Dr.Zom: LarryDan43: Sugar or corn syrup?

I'm old enough to remember the 70s and 80s when everybody ate sugar all the time and yet no one was really fat. Fat people were an anomaly. And more importantly, YOU NEVER SAW MUFFINTOPS.

I repeat, that roll of fat around the middle of an otherwise normal shaped human, was rare as hell. That never showed up until HFCS started being added to everything. There's something about that shiat that condenses fat around the middle.

As much as I love blaming corporations for stuff, HFCS is simply no different than sugar. It's about the same ratio of glucose and fructose, the ONLY difference is that in sucrose (sugar), there's a weak bond between them, making it a disaccharide form.

That bond gets broken before absorption into the digestive system, and it breaks pretty quickly. Then it's identical glucose+fructose molecules to HFCS.


I wasn't blaming corporations for anything. Nor was I saying that HFCS are the devil. All I'm saying is I see a grantedly anecdotal link between HFCS and that roll of fat around the middle that people get these days. Think about it, fat people get fat all over - they don't just gain weight around their middle in a roll.

I live in an area very popular with young people. I would say that half the women have this roll of fat. Their legs aren't fat, their asses aren't fat, their arms aren't fat, it's just the middle. This is not normal.
 
2012-06-16 10:47:19 PM  
Hey, you know, cyanide is just carbon and nitrogen, so it really can't hurt you.
 
2012-06-16 10:47:38 PM  
I cut most sugar (and heavy starches) out of my diet back in mid January. Since that time, I've lost around 30 - 40lbs, and most of that was within the first month or two. I can't and won't claim that I feel terribly much better for it, but the scale pretty much says it all.

The first few weeks of cutting sugar and excess carbs from your diet can be tough -- you'll definitely end up with cravings for sweet things and bread. However, after a while, that goes away, and then you don't even miss it.

Actually, that's a lie. The cravings definitely dissipate over time, but every now and then you get uncontrollable urges to go all out and eat icecream or chocolate.
 
2012-06-16 10:48:48 PM  

Whatthefark: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

A Princeton University study shows this isn't true.


I will give it to you that it takes less HFCS to do more damage. So I suppose table sugar is marginally better than HFCS..
I'm just annoyed with people who think they're doing their body a favor by eating sugar instead of HFCS... It's all bad for you!
 
2012-06-16 10:49:31 PM  

Dwedit: Because fruit is sugar-free.


Ancient people who ate lots of fruit still left skeletons with heads full of pearly white teeth. They didn't use toothpaste, either.

Anyone who tries to tell you refined sugar is the same as all sugars is full of shiat, or trying to kill you.
 
2012-06-16 10:49:46 PM  

Whatthefark: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

A Princeton University study shows this isn't true.


Before I click on this link and read the study, I want to be sure it's not another rat study. Since rats have a radically different physiology than humans and digest fructose differently than we do. Fructose in rats adds fat really easily because of De novo lipogenesis, an event that is very rare to see in humans, unless you are eating ungodly amounts of pure fructose.

So, before I click, rat or human study?
 
2012-06-16 10:50:15 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: Fat people don't cost the system big gobs of money anymore than the smokers--they tend to die before they get elderly and become REALLY expensive.

All you health freaks, you're costing all of us, you selfish preeks. Put down the tofu and eat some fries for heaven's sake.


Fat people cost money, diabetes is one of the most expensive preventable, reversible conditions out there... we spend billions of dollars a year on enabling people to continue with unhealthy lifestyles... there are some diabetes causes that are not food-induced, but I'd wager that a vast majority of current cases are sugar intake related.
 
2012-06-16 10:50:22 PM  

DrPainMD: I remember the good old days, when liberals said, "it's my body... I'll do what I want with it."


Like before corn subsidies made junk food so cheap?
 
2012-06-16 10:50:53 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Everything in moderation, but those who abuse sugar deserve a good caning.


My mom used to make the best pickled watermelon rinds. I have to get that recipe.

Sugar and salt are preservatives for the dumbasses, who don't know how to preserve food for the winter or need long term food that won't spoil, i.e. zombie apocalypse or camping.
 
2012-06-16 10:51:09 PM  

Whatthefark: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

A Princeton University study shows this isn't true.


Wow, thanks for that. I'd never read it before.

In addition to causing significant weight gain in lab animals, long-term consumption of high-fructose corn syrup also led to abnormal increases in body fat, especially in the abdomen, and a rise in circulating blood fats called triglycerides.

Holy crap I was right!
 
2012-06-16 10:51:21 PM  

MarkEC: Put the fat back in and take the sugar out, and people will eat fewer calories because your system tells your brain you are full sooner when you eat fat compared to sugar.


Reverting back to how things were before is not a solution. There's a reason why there was a craze to remove so much fat from our packaged foods - people were getting fat. Obviously replacing that with sugar didn't make anything better, but we need to find a way to do it without so much fat AND sugar.

Really the problem with processed foods isn't the processing, it's the packaging - making food edible when it has to sit on a shelf for god knows how long means adding lots of crap to it. Sugar, fat, and salt replace the essential oils and flavonoids that make foods taste good, but are too volatile to sit on a shelf for that long.
 
2012-06-16 10:51:33 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I cut most sugar (and heavy starches) out of my diet back in mid January. Since that time, I've lost around 30 - 40lbs, and most of that was within the first month or two. I can't and won't claim that I feel terribly much better for it, but the scale pretty much says it all.

The first few weeks of cutting sugar and excess carbs from your diet can be tough -- you'll definitely end up with cravings for sweet things and bread. However, after a while, that goes away, and then you don't even miss it.

Actually, that's a lie. The cravings definitely dissipate over time, but every now and then you get uncontrollable urges to go all out and eat icecream or chocolate.


Yep, my boyfriend lost 40lbs on a ketogenic diet, and I lost about 12 when I did it. The more I read about carbs, the more disgusted I get about putting them in my body.

Every once in a while I will eat something sugary (like when I was in NY last month, I had to have cheesecake!), but it's the fact that most people CAN'T practice moderation that is the problem.
 
2012-06-16 10:52:14 PM  

boozerman: So, before I click, rat or human study?


Oh, please. Click the link, you pussy.
 
2012-06-16 10:52:33 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Dwedit: Because fruit is sugar-free.

Ancient people who ate lots of fruit still left skeletons with heads full of pearly white teeth. They didn't use toothpaste, either.

Anyone who tries to tell you refined sugar is the same as all sugars is full of shiat, or trying to kill you.


Fruits of today are MUCH, MUCH sweeter than fruits of the paleolithic era.
 
2012-06-16 10:53:06 PM  

boozerman: Whatthefark: miss marla singer: astouffer: More like the corn lobby forcing tariffs on real sugar so they can pump HFCS into everything. Go into a grocery store and find something (short of a single ingredient) without HFCS or sugar.

Sugar is no better or worse than HFCS.

A Princeton University study shows this isn't true.

Before I click on this link and read the study, I want to be sure it's not another rat study. Since rats have a radically different physiology than humans and digest fructose differently than we do. Fructose in rats adds fat really easily because of De novo lipogenesis, an event that is very rare to see in humans, unless you are eating ungodly amounts of pure fructose.

So, before I click, rat or human study?


Rat study.
 
2012-06-16 10:54:51 PM  
I have definitely noticed a serious change in my overall sense of well being since I cut out most sugar. I recently drastically altered my diet, one of the things being junk food and soda (regular or diet). I've had a few diet sodas over the last month, whereas I was drinking a few per day every day for years. And buying regular soda on the weekend, candy bars, etc. I do still put a few packets of sugar in my first coffee of the day, but thats a drop in the river compared to how much overall sugar I was getting into, not even considering the amount of junk carbs i was getting from chips and reese cups.

It was really surprising just how much it was affecting me. I've been very active since my early twenties in terms of working out, but around 9 months ago something kicked in and while I didnt stop exercising, crap food just started getting into me, and it just became easy to eat shiat. I know it was my own fault, but i was definitely craving it on par with nicotine or anything else addictive (from experience).

I'm now down 12lbs, with about 25 to go to get back to my ideal weight. Crap food habits can literally get into anyone, I dont judge. And it is addicitve. and there is definitely a difference for the better that you will notice if you give it up. I'm horny more often, I swear my skin and face looks healthier. I'm not shiatting 3x a day.

Once I get back down to 200, I will definitely allow myself a treat once in a while. york peppermint patty or something. But for now until I get to that and feel i have full control of my compulsions again, no more!

/fark Sugar
 
2012-06-16 10:55:06 PM  

MarkEC: boozerman: calorie consumption up + activity down= more obesity. But I guess that's too simple, doesn't give you something to blame, and isn't interesting enough to sell books about.

One of the reasons calorie consumption is up is because of all the added sugar in everything. Remember the "fat is bad" craze decades ago when everything started coming out in low fat versions? Guess what they replaced the fat with? That's right, sugar. Put the fat back in and take the sugar out, and people will eat fewer calories because your system tells your brain you are full sooner when you eat fat compared to sugar.


You can blame the nutrients all you want, people are eating more than they used to. And doing less. Food is even more clearly labeled now than it ever was. Sugar isn't the villain, carbs aren't the villain, fat isn't the villain, over consumption of calories is the villain. That's in our control. People have lost grasp of moderation. And it is possible.

I do, myself, compose my diet of mostly whole and lightly processed foods. I enjoy some added sugar every day as well. But I have found buying eggs, meat, cheese dairy, whole grain pastas, rice, oats, veggies, etc that my grocery bill went down when I made the change from highly processed foods. People just don't want to take time or accountability anymore, that's fine. Don't blame the sugar though.
 
2012-06-16 10:56:12 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Dwedit: Because fruit is sugar-free.

Ancient people who ate lots of fruit still left skeletons with heads full of pearly white teeth. They didn't use toothpaste, either.

Anyone who tries to tell you refined sugar is the same as all sugars is full of shiat, or trying to kill you.


Actually tooth decay is a result of the agricultural revolution, thousands of years before refined sugar.
 
2012-06-16 10:58:22 PM  

Dwedit: Because fruit is sugar-free.


Fruit has natural sugars AND fiber which in combination, the fiber prevents a lot of the sugar absorption in the body making it healthier.

If your great grandmother wouldn't recognize the food you are eating you probably shouldn't eat it.
 
2012-06-16 10:58:38 PM  
Dammit, Sugar, stop killing people.
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2012-06-16 10:59:11 PM  

phedex: I have definitely noticed a serious change in my overall sense of well being since I cut out most sugar. I recently drastically altered my diet, one of the things being junk food and soda (regular or diet). I've had a few diet sodas over the last month, whereas I was drinking a few per day every day for years. And buying regular soda on the weekend, candy bars, etc. I do still put a few packets of sugar in my first coffee of the day, but thats a drop in the river compared to how much overall sugar I was getting into, not even considering the amount of junk carbs i was getting from chips and reese cups.

It was really surprising just how much it was affecting me. I've been very active since my early twenties in terms of working out, but around 9 months ago something kicked in and while I didnt stop exercising, crap food just started getting into me, and it just became easy to eat shiat. I know it was my own fault, but i was definitely craving it on par with nicotine or anything else addictive (from experience).

I'm now down 12lbs, with about 25 to go to get back to my ideal weight. Crap food habits can literally get into anyone, I dont judge. And it is addicitve. and there is definitely a difference for the better that you will notice if you give it up. I'm horny more often, I swear my skin and face looks healthier. I'm not shiatting 3x a day.

Once I get back down to 200, I will definitely allow myself a treat once in a while. york peppermint patty or something. But for now until I get to that and feel i have full control of my compulsions again, no more!

/fark Sugar


Good work. Hope it continues that way...
 
2012-06-16 11:01:45 PM  

guises: Really the problem with processed foods isn't the processing, it's the packaging - making food edible when it has to sit on a shelf for god knows how long means adding lots of crap to it. Sugar, fat, and salt replace the essential oils and flavonoids that make foods taste good, but are too volatile to sit on a shelf for that long.


Fat is one of the ingredients taken out to prolong shelf life, not added in.

Try an experiment, make a batch of brownies made with the current recipe on the Hershey's coco package, and one with the recipe from 30 years ago with 1/2 pound of butter. Then eat them on different days and see how many you can eat before you start to feel full. The old recipe will seem so much richer than the new recipe, that you will feel fuller with far fewer calories eaten. Fat being taken out of food was not because of obesity, but because of the link to heart disease that has not been proven.
 
2012-06-16 11:03:04 PM  
I'm okay with regulations that keep corporations from killing us. Nothing in the article says we can't grow our tobacco and sugar cane in the backyard.
Really, the only anti-government type that has any credibility is the subsistence farmer. America has had tea baggers throughout its entire history. For most of that time, they weren't considered credible unless they wore homespun.
 
2012-06-16 11:03:21 PM  
Sometimes, I want to go through the grocery store and cover every "low fat", "less fat", and "no fat" marking on packages with stickers that say "high sugar content".
 
2012-06-16 11:03:23 PM  
No shiat.
 
2012-06-16 11:03:39 PM  

frestcrallen: . The general populace can't control its appetite for sugar, so the state has to do it for them.


Not entirely. I'm noticing a lot of HFCS free items in the supermarket lately..such as the quite a few major brands of Ketchup and fruit juices. That was primary driven by consumer demand for HFCS free items. Just look at the popularity of Mexican CocaCola. Even cambell soups are now made with less salt-- which is more inline with their original soup salt content. Their tomato soup is still far to sweet for me tho....it didn't used to be that sweet. A 1 cup serving is 24 grams of sugar---a snickers bar is 30 grams.
 
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