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2012-06-16 10:45:51 PM

MyRandomName: The Name: dosboot: For all you calling for minimum wage, I hope you have saved your money so that you can care for your parents. Unless of course you expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.

God forbid taxpayers should have to subsidize such evils as livable wages and quality care for the elderly.

Medicare is already one of the largest expenditures of the federal government. You really think the Feds should be paying 40k a year per senior for live-in help? At some point you have to ask what is actually a reasonable accommodation. Sorry, but not every elderly person gets a live in care take. The United States, nor any rational society, can afford it. Seniors average 300k in Medicare spending. They paid in less than 100k. Think about that. Not everything can be paid for magically cause it's the "right thing to do." If you continue on that path current workers are essentially slaves of the elderly.


Are you making the case that because they are on Medicare, they would get home health aides even if they weren't medically necessary? Because most seniors do just fine without them, as for the ones who can't be more mobile, yes, an HHA is frequently cheaper than nursing home care, so I would appreciate spending our money wisely instead of just reflexively being anti-everything without thinking it through. For every senior who would only need an HHA for an hour or two a day (way cheaper than an assisted living facility), who wouldn't be able to safely bathe or prepare food without help, yes every farking one of them should be able to get the help they need... poor as I am, if it means I have to work harder for other people not to frickin starve to death for want of a little help, I'll actually do it.

/ps, how is it the party of Christianity hates the poor, the infirmed, and the imprisoned so farking much?
 
2012-06-16 10:47:38 PM
Why don't they just vote to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation and get it over with.
 
2012-06-16 10:50:30 PM
I hope this lady is getting more than minimum wage NSFW
 
2012-06-16 10:52:02 PM
I'm not trying to threadjack, but I just saw Drew on Fox News Channel. Will anyone's head asplode?
 
2012-06-16 10:52:31 PM

Lernaeus: Whose business is it of anyone aside from home health care workers and their employers how much money they make?

Don't like the money? Don't take the job.

Or better yet, learn how to stand up for YOUR OWN SELFISH INTEREST and negotiate an acceptable salary.


So tell me your stance on unions.
 
2012-06-16 10:55:40 PM

Solid Muldoon: Why don't they just vote to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation and get it over with.


Already happened. The Evil Republicans pushed through the 13th amendment in 1865 which nullified the Proclamation by freeing all slaves.

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the Southern slaves.

You want to repeal the 13th amendment. That will stir things up!
 
2012-06-16 11:11:04 PM

dennysgod: And yet there are still a shaitload home health care workers that will still vote GOP in November.


Seeing as how this bill (and the regulation it looks to overturn) have only to do with people providing companionship services and nothing to do with anyone with any sort of training (nurses, etc.), then I'm not sure why home health care workers will be all too concerned with this...it doesn't affect them.
 
2012-06-16 11:16:42 PM
Marcus Aurelius: If those people are making under $20 an hour, there's something seriously farking wrong with this country.

Smeggy Smurf :
The job is typically filled by CNAs that aren't good enough to wipe asses in a hospital or have gotten themselves fired from every hospital for misconduct. They shouldn't be working in the medical field in the first place let alone making good money doing it.

My mom lasted six months with hospice and we did get some oddballs, but most of them were good. Curiously, the LPN's were WAY better nurses than the RN's. I'm talking night and day difference better. We had some that came in just to let me go shopping and take care of the banking or buy stuff for the house, they were untrained and a couple of them were real losers. We got one that showed up half drunk who proceeded to sit in a recliner and pass out--she was a big old fat country woman who snoring woke up my mom, who was wandering around the yard without shoes on in the cold when I got back. I woke her fat ass up real quick by dumping her out of the chair and dousing her with a pan of ice cold water. Then she wanted to fight me which upset the house dogs who bit her, so she ran off without her purse, which turned out to have a near empty pint of Jack Daniels in it. And we got another one, a woman who was working as a nurse in a local nursing home who got a huge raise to work for hospice. She was sucking the morphine patches which ate right through her stomach lining and she puked up black all over the bathroom, then she called a friend to come and get her to take her to another town so she wouldn't be found out (she was).

Still two out of thirty or so wasn't all that bad, considering it is Florida.
 
2012-06-16 11:18:51 PM

Cataholic: dennysgod: And yet there are still a shaitload home health care workers that will still vote GOP in November.

Seeing as how this bill (and the regulation it looks to overturn) have only to do with people providing companionship services and nothing to do with anyone with any sort of training (nurses, etc.), then I'm not sure why home health care workers will be all too concerned with this...it doesn't affect them.


Since your reading comprehension seems to be poor Ill point out the paragraph from the article that addresses this directly.

"The bizarre name for the bill - the Companionship Exemption Protection Act - alludes to the fact that the Fair Labor Standards Act exempts two groups of workers: casual baby-sitters and those "who provide 'companionship services' to people with disabilities and the elderly," which has come to mean home health workers. But, of course, home health care workers today do far more than provide "companionship." As ThinkProgress has noted, "Home care workers today provide everything from help with eating and dressing to monitoring blood pressure and vital signs."
 
2012-06-16 11:27:08 PM
The headline made me very angry, but then I RTA and realized that these workers still have the opportunity to make minimum wage or more.
 
2012-06-16 11:44:04 PM

sk8r: The Evil Republicans pushed through the 13th amendment in 1865


The Republicans weren't evil in 1865...the move to the dark side was still 100 years away.
 
2012-06-16 11:50:39 PM

oldcub: The headline made me very angry, but then I RTA and realized that these workers still have the opportunity to make minimum wage or more.


I'd rather my aged grandmother was being cared for by someone getting more than minimum wage, thanks. And the opportunity to start at a salary that reflects the kind of care I want her to have.

Protip for any naysayers out there: Whenever you hear about some caregiver stealing her/his charge's money, possessions etc.; or neglecting them and letting them starve; or abusing them and killing them--those are your home healthcare workers who had the opportunity to "make minimum wage" and took it. You get what you pay for, and if you're paying someone $8/hr to look after a feeble person who can't fight back, you're going to get exactly that.
 
2012-06-16 11:50:40 PM
What is the point of minimum wage? I don't understand this at all. What's the argument that "iuf we pay these people minimum wage then____________ is going to happen and then we'll all be sorry?"

What makes them a step below tomato pickers? I mean....


/wha?
 
2012-06-16 11:51:51 PM
I never understood why teenage babysitters were expected to accept $5 a night
 
2012-06-16 11:52:25 PM
They should be able to make O.T. if working over 40 hrs a week.

That being said, I have 2 diff. home health providers that come in for my father, they aren't struggling in the least. Of course that is just a personal experience, but I also haven't read/seen much about home health workers besides reading up a little tonight from other sources.
 
2012-06-16 11:54:23 PM
i950.photobucket.com

/Fark the poor!
 
2012-06-16 11:59:36 PM

quickdraw: Cataholic: dennysgod: And yet there are still a shaitload home health care workers that will still vote GOP in November.

Seeing as how this bill (and the regulation it looks to overturn) have only to do with people providing companionship services and nothing to do with anyone with any sort of training (nurses, etc.), then I'm not sure why home health care workers will be all too concerned with this...it doesn't affect them.

Since your reading comprehension seems to be poor Ill point out the paragraph from the article that addresses this directly.

"The bizarre name for the bill - the Companionship Exemption Protection Act - alludes to the fact that the Fair Labor Standards Act exempts two groups of workers: casual baby-sitters and those "who provide 'companionship services' to people with disabilities and the elderly," which has come to mean home health workers. But, of course, home health care workers today do far more than provide "companionship." As ThinkProgress has noted, "Home care workers today provide everything from help with eating and dressing to monitoring blood pressure and vital signs."


Or, maybe you could expand your reading horizons beyond what Think"Progress" wants you to believe, and look up the actual laws and regulations yourself. Hint: They might not be telling you an accurate story because it might not fit their worldview.

Link

The companion exemption was never intended to cover health care providers. While they may help people take their blood pressure, that's something a lot of old people do by themselves (if they are able). The change to this rule that the Administration proposed would limit "personal care" (i.e. grooming, meal preparation, bedmaking) to 20% of the total time worked, and require payment of minimum wage for any other incidental household cleaning. The practical effect of the rule change will be that the services currently provided by one person under a companionship arrangement will have to be either shared by 3 people, or the elderly person will have to hire someone else to do their personal grooming and household cleaning.
 
2012-06-17 12:00:38 AM
One of these stories will eventually rouse you from your comas. Not betting on when though.
 
2012-06-17 12:02:45 AM

Gyrfalcon: oldcub: The headline made me very angry, but then I RTA and realized that these workers still have the opportunity to make minimum wage or more.

I'd rather my aged grandmother was being cared for by someone getting more than minimum wage, thanks. And the opportunity to start at a salary that reflects the kind of care I want her to have.

Protip for any naysayers out there: Whenever you hear about some caregiver stealing her/his charge's money, possessions etc.; or neglecting them and letting them starve; or abusing them and killing them--those are your home healthcare workers who had the opportunity to "make minimum wage" and took it. You get what you pay for, and if you're paying someone $8/hr to look after a feeble person who can't fight back, you're going to get exactly that.


So everyone who works for minimum wage is entitled to a light drawer because they deserve better? Somebody's got to work for peanuts.
 
2012-06-17 12:12:12 AM

sk8r: Solid Muldoon: Why don't they just vote to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation and get it over with.

Already happened. The Evil Republicans pushed through the 13th amendment in 1865 which nullified the Proclamation by freeing all slaves.

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the Southern slaves.

You want to repeal the 13th amendment. That will stir things up!


A bunch of dead guys who have no bearing on the current state of either parties politics did a good thing back then, yet I still find that an uncompelling reason to vote for people who viscerally hate me, yet use the same name as those dead guys.
 
2012-06-17 12:22:31 AM

Weaver95: the GOP better hope that none of those health care workers are in a position to influence the elderly to vote Democrat instead of Republican....oh, wait.

oops.


Unfortunately, the GOP is ahead of you on this one. These people who are bedridden and housebound and chronically ill will soon need to go to the DMV to get IDs so they can vote.
 
2012-06-17 12:33:44 AM
A group of Republican senators on Thursday introduced legislation aimed at blocking the Obama administration's controversial efforts to extend minimum wage and overtime protections to 2 million in-home care providers

WTF is the least bit "controversial" about that, other than the GOP drama queens' howling histrionic hatred of anything whatsoever that does anything the least bit good for ordinary taxpaying American citizens?
 
2012-06-17 12:39:13 AM

vernonFL: Well then perhaps medicare should cover it.

Have you ever BEEN to one of the old folks homes that Medicare covers?

They're worse than prison. I wouldn't send an ex Nazi prison guard there.


Jesus, I did investigations in nursing homes. I would have people trying to follow me out the door in their wheel chairs begging for help. MOST nursing homes take Medicare/Medicaid. Private insurance just gives you your own room on a better floor. Assisted living facilities are the ones where you rent or buy a nice apartment maybe a room and you have much nicer conditions. That is also because those people are higher functioning. That made me quickly rule out a health care specialization.
 
2012-06-17 12:40:37 AM
The GOP is just flat out "comic book" parody evil now.
 
2012-06-17 12:41:02 AM

moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.


Negative.

In fact, we can probably produce enough food and shelter for the world without even making everyone work. We do not require anyone to work for peanuts just to keep society going, as many of you morons seem to think.
 
2012-06-17 12:46:59 AM

moothemagiccow: Gyrfalcon: oldcub: The headline made me very angry, but then I RTA and realized that these workers still have the opportunity to make minimum wage or more.

I'd rather my aged grandmother was being cared for by someone getting more than minimum wage, thanks. And the opportunity to start at a salary that reflects the kind of care I want her to have.

Protip for any naysayers out there: Whenever you hear about some caregiver stealing her/his charge's money, possessions etc.; or neglecting them and letting them starve; or abusing them and killing them--those are your home healthcare workers who had the opportunity to "make minimum wage" and took it. You get what you pay for, and if you're paying someone $8/hr to look after a feeble person who can't fight back, you're going to get exactly that.

So everyone who works for minimum wage is entitled to a light drawer because they deserve better? Somebody's got to work for peanuts.


I don't accept that assertion, I think that with reasonable tariffs that protect our labor force from being in competition with slave labor, we can ensure that people who work 40+ hours a week all have enough food, medicine, shelter, and safety to use whatever other time they may have towards bettering themselves or the world around them. We don't need slaves to make a good economy, continuing inflationary pressures across the board while only having greater income gains for the top class leads us to fiefdoms, not freedoms.
 
2012-06-17 12:48:27 AM

moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.


You volunteering?

Didn't think so.
 
2012-06-17 01:07:40 AM
My grandparents really liked one of their home health care workers. She just came in off the clock and got paid in cash. Win-win for everyone.

They had long term care insurance though too. My grandma slowing dying of Alzheimer's didn't bankrupt them.
 
2012-06-17 01:08:56 AM

serial_crusher: How do you measure billable hours in that sort of job. If I was a live in caregiver who "works" a 24 hour shift involving lots of free time, I wouldn't really expect to bill all 24 of those hours.


There is no "free time". If I'm on the jobsite (the patient's residence) and not at my house or elsewhere, I'm on the clock. From the time I step inside, I'm on call to do whatever needs to be done for the person I'm working for anytime during that 24 hour period. If I'm asleep, I get up anytime I'm needed. If I'm eating, I stop anytime I'm called. If I'm taking a dump I pinch it off and go anytime I'm needed. The patient comes first, because they could die if I don't get to them.

If I'm on the clock 24 hours, I expect to be paid for those 24 hours. What if you had to sit at your office desk for 3 or 4 days straight and never leave the building, even to sleep? Wouldn't you expect to get paid for that time?
 
2012-06-17 01:21:42 AM

rewind2846: serial_crusher: How do you measure billable hours in that sort of job. If I was a live in caregiver who "works" a 24 hour shift involving lots of free time, I wouldn't really expect to bill all 24 of those hours.

There is no "free time". If I'm on the jobsite (the patient's residence) and not at my house or elsewhere, I'm on the clock. From the time I step inside, I'm on call to do whatever needs to be done for the person I'm working for anytime during that 24 hour period. If I'm asleep, I get up anytime I'm needed. If I'm eating, I stop anytime I'm called. If I'm taking a dump I pinch it off and go anytime I'm needed. The patient comes first, because they could die if I don't get to them.

If I'm on the clock 24 hours, I expect to be paid for those 24 hours. What if you had to sit at your office desk for 3 or 4 days straight and never leave the building, even to sleep? Wouldn't you expect to get paid for that time?


Yea, seriously. Why should you be the only person expected to be considered to be off the clock the second you aren't being productive? Nobody else, in any industry, is held to that standard. Downtime is a fact of life in every job.
 
2012-06-17 01:49:18 AM

Cataholic: quickdraw: Cataholic: dennysgod: And yet there are still a shaitload home health care workers that will still vote GOP in November.

Seeing as how this bill (and the regulation it looks to overturn) have only to do with people providing companionship services and nothing to do with anyone with any sort of training (nurses, etc.), then I'm not sure why home health care workers will be all too concerned with this...it doesn't affect them.

Since your reading comprehension seems to be poor Ill point out the paragraph from the article that addresses this directly.

"The bizarre name for the bill - the Companionship Exemption Protection Act - alludes to the fact that the Fair Labor Standards Act exempts two groups of workers: casual baby-sitters and those "who provide 'companionship services' to people with disabilities and the elderly," which has come to mean home health workers. But, of course, home health care workers today do far more than provide "companionship." As ThinkProgress has noted, "Home care workers today provide everything from help with eating and dressing to monitoring blood pressure and vital signs."

Or, maybe you could expand your reading horizons beyond what Think"Progress" wants you to believe, and look up the actual laws and regulations yourself. Hint: They might not be telling you an accurate story because it might not fit their worldview.

Link

I did read it. Its not that large Ill paste it here.

Labor
Regulations Relating to Labor (Continued)
WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
REGULATIONS
APPLICATION OF THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT TO DOMESTIC SERVICE
General Regulations



§ 552.6
Companionship services for the aged or infirm.
As used in section 13(a)(15) of the Act, the term companionship services shall mean those services which provide fellowship, care, and protection for a person who, because of advanced age or physical or mental infirmity, cannot care for his or her own needs. Such services may include household work related to the care of the aged or infirm person such as meal preparation, bed making, washing of clothes, and other similar services. They may also include the performance of general household work: Provided, however, That such work is incidental, i.e., does not exceed 20 percent of the total weekly hours worked. The term "companionship services" does not include services relating to the care and protection of the aged or infirm which require and are performed by trained personnel, such as a registered or practical nurse. While such trained personnel do not qualify as companions, this fact does not remove them from the category of covered domestic service employees when employed in or about a private household.

The companion exemption was never intended to cover health care providers. While they may help people take their blood pressure, that's something a lot of old people do by themselves (if they are able). The change to this rule that the Administration proposed would limit "personal care" (i.e. grooming, meal preparation, bedmaking) to 20% of the total time worked, and require payment of minimum wage for any other incidental household cleaning. The practical effect of the rule change will be that the services currently provided by one person under a companionship arrangement will have to be either shared by 3 people, or the elderly person will have to hire someone else to do their personal grooming and household cleaning

Thats exactly it! The companion exemption was not meant to cover healthcare providers but once home health care providing companies figured out that loophole they took advantage of it. Since the home health care providers fall into a grey area between a companion and a nurse they need to adjust the labor policy accordingly. As it turns out very few people work as "companions" according to the old definition and so rather than draft a whole new labor category they are just changing the laws to reflect the reality. Its kind of efficient really.

See were going to need a lot more home health care providers over the next ten years and if we dont pay them decently then we will have a much bigger expense on our hands. The cost of placing someone in a care facility full time is much higher. By using home health care providers and other Age In Place solutions our seniors can live in dignity in their homes.

I know it can be hard to absorb the reality of changes in the labor market of this nature but they happen fairly often and it shouldnt be a shock when we have to adapt our labor laws accordingly.
 
2012-06-17 01:53:16 AM

moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.


Why is that exactly?
 
2012-06-17 02:14:42 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just out of curiosity, if a home healthcare worker gets paid $5.00 an hour by their agency, how much is the agency charging per hour for that worker?


In Texas, agencies charge about $20 an hour for sitter services and the sitter gets $7.50-$10 an hour. Medicare doesn't usually pay for sitter services. The article is not correct about sitters monitoring vital signs. A reputable agency wouldn't put itself at risk for having non-licensed staff performing medical tasks or making decisions that require medical judgement.

The standard shift is 12 hours for live-out companions.
 
2012-06-17 02:17:05 AM

3_Butt_Cheeks: they aren't struggling in the least


You sound disappointed.
 
2012-06-17 02:29:53 AM

moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.


Why?
 
2012-06-17 02:32:22 AM

Smackledorfer: moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.

Negative.

In fact, we can probably produce enough food and shelter for the world without even making everyone work. We do not require anyone to work for peanuts just to keep society going, as many of you morons seem to think.


Well they aren't complete morons they are just echoing what they've heard their entire lives. "You must do more with less" "Budgets must be cut" "Without someone suffering you won't live as well as you do" "Someone has to be poor" "hard work pays off" ; It's a litany that is shoved down our gullets every day since birth, is it shocking to find it regurgitated?

With the advances in technology we should all be seeing the benefits of a higher standard of living. Less work-more time for other life stuff, should be the norm now, instead it seems to be moving the opposite way.
 
2012-06-17 02:33:58 AM
 
2012-06-17 02:35:12 AM

Zombie Butler: Smackledorfer: moothemagiccow: Somebody's got to work for peanuts.

Negative.

In fact, we can probably produce enough food and shelter for the world without even making everyone work. We do not require anyone to work for peanuts just to keep society going, as many of you morons seem to think.

Well they aren't complete morons they are just echoing what they've heard their entire lives. "You must do more with less" "Budgets must be cut" "Without someone suffering you won't live as well as you do" "Someone has to be poor" "hard work pays off" ; It's a litany that is shoved down our gullets every day since birth, is it shocking to find it regurgitated?

With the advances in technology we should all be seeing the benefits of a higher standard of living. Less work-more time for other life stuff, should be the norm now, instead it seems to be moving the opposite way.


well someone has to make billions sitting on their ass.
 
2012-06-17 02:40:07 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-17 02:42:19 AM

SilentStrider: Mugato: Not a lot of apologists in this thread.

yet. I'm sure the troll signal will be lit shortly.



What the hell? DON'T SAY IT! It calls hem!

Triumph: Shame on all those filthy rich elderly infirmed who are taking advantage of the people who change their diapers. They make the poor home health care workers wipe their asses with hundred dollar bills while paying them next to nothing. We must find the political will to stop these sadistic bedridden villains.


Now look what you did.
 
2012-06-17 02:44:16 AM
oh and this too

img1-cdn.newser.com
 
2012-06-17 02:59:57 AM

sk8r: Already happened. The Evil Republicans pushed through the 13th amendment in 1865 which nullified the Proclamation by freeing all slaves.


Wait, if it was 1865, why does their party matter?
 
2012-06-17 03:04:40 AM

Zombie Butler: Well they aren't complete morons they are just echoing what they've heard their entire lives. "You must do more with less" "Budgets must be cut" "Without someone suffering you won't live as well as you do" "Someone has to be poor" "hard work pays off" ; It's a litany that is shoved down our gullets every day since birth, is it shocking to find it regurgitated?


Its not shocking, but I find myself with less patience for it on a daily basis. It isn't that people are ignorant. It isn't that they are ignorant of their ignorance. It is that I've had real life conversations with people who admit they don't understand most of what they are talking about, but are still sure of their opinions. They can't tell me what Obama should have done to make the economy better, but they know damn well that all his vacation time is the reason our unemployment is high. They don't know what he ran on, but they are pissed off that he went after insurance reform, pushed for a bailout package, etc - someone literally admitted to me today that they didn't listen to any of his speeches and don't know why people voted for him, but that whatever the platform he ran on actually was, he has done nothing but ignore the American people's wishes by going after his personal agenda instead of doing what's right for the country.

What failure of education has led to people being so sure of themselves while admitting that they don't even know the relevant facts that would allow a conclusion to be drawn and they'll admit they lack that information?


Zombie Butler: Less work-more time for other life stuff, should be the norm now, instead it seems to be moving the opposite way.


But refrigerators, cell phones, and color tvs! Those mean the poor are doing awesome, and percentage of lifetime spent working no longer matters, right?
 
2012-06-17 03:07:13 AM

dosboot: LordJiro: He's not rounding up anyone who looks Mexican (or close enough) and putting them in camps, therefore he's not doing enough.

So only Mexicans and people who "look" Mexican are illegal immigrants?

What does a Mexican look like?


Ask Arizona.

And I think your hyperbole/sarcasm detector needs adjusting.
 
2012-06-17 03:42:04 AM
"A group of Republican senators on Thursday introduced legislation aimed at blocking the Obama administration's controversial efforts to extend minimum wage and overtime protections to 2 million in-home care providers through Department of Labor regulations"

Why are Obama's efforts considered controversial and what is the reason those senators are giving for trying to cblock Obama's legislation? There's two sides to every story.
 
2012-06-17 04:04:29 AM
i1197.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-17 04:13:01 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF is wrong with these people?

/seriously... WTF?


Because it's bullshiat to begin with. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.2 Together, these 3.8 million workers with wages at or below the Federal minimum made up 5.2 percent of all hourly-paid workers.

If only 5.2% of all wage earners even made the minimum and the largest group of those were under 25 in entry level positions; how many do you think that are in skilled healthcare positions are making minimum wage? Not even worth the effort to block, or make a fuss that they want to.
 
2012-06-17 04:23:35 AM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF is wrong with these people?

/seriously... WTF?

Because it's bullshiat to begin with. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.2 Together, these 3.8 million workers with wages at or below the Federal minimum made up 5.2 percent of all hourly-paid workers.

If only 5.2% of all wage earners even made the minimum and the largest group of those were under 25 in entry level positions; how many do you think that are in skilled healthcare positions are making minimum wage? Not even worth the effort to block, or make a fuss that they want to.


well you see they have so demonized this president and his "socialist un-American agenda" that they can't be seen agreeing with him on anything, Even if it's something they know is something they've pushed for themselves.
 
2012-06-17 06:39:18 AM

oldcub: The headline made me very angry, but then I RTA and realized that these workers still have the opportunity to make minimum wage or more.




And do you know why the headline made you angry?


Hint: Because you're a farking dumbass who gets his/her news from a Leftist website. Try not to be a sheep next time, hmm?
 
2012-06-17 06:45:17 AM

kinkkerbelle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just out of curiosity, if a home healthcare worker gets paid $5.00 an hour by their agency, how much is the agency charging per hour for that worker?

In Texas, agencies charge about $20 an hour for sitter services and the sitter gets $7.50-$10 an hour. Medicare doesn't usually pay for sitter services. The article is not correct about sitters monitoring vital signs. A reputable agency wouldn't put itself at risk for having non-licensed staff performing medical tasks or making decisions that require medical judgement.

The standard shift is 12 hours for live-out companions.




Wait.... what? ThinkProgress would lie?? But how can that be? They're Leftists and only they know the real truth (according to FARK).

Come on now, you know that those filthy, filthy Republicans are evil. Just mindlessly swallow the ThinkProgress bullshiat and go to sleep. You've had a busy day.
 
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