It's an entire industry that functions this way... if they were worth more they'd be paid more. that's how it works. Don't cry, it's their own faults.

You all got trolled as shiat. Nothing like this is going on.

There are issues around companies that provide 24 hour a day coverage in homes. They now have to provide it in shifts, not as 24/7 live in companions that sleep at night and do their own thing around the home when they aren't needed. For years, these companion caregivers were paid a rate that came to under minimum if you factored in all 24 hours. They really aren't on all 24.

These live in companions are an affordable alternative to nursing home care that was deep sixed when the busy bodies insisted that they should be paid minimum for all 24 hours. Everybody lost. These were sweet gigs where you had your own room or even apartment in the house and just had to be available. You 'worked' about 5 hours a day. There were respite workers if you needed to be away from the home or run errands.

Think Progress is FOS

RobertBruce: It's an entire industry that functions this way... if they were worth more they'd be paid more. that's how it works. Don't cry, it's their own faults.

Yes whatever you do dont look any deeper into the issue than that. Your comprehension of the issue is breathtaking in its scope and insight.

sk8r: There are issues around companies that provide 24 hour a day coverage in homes. They now have to provide it in shifts, not as 24/7 live in companions that sleep at night and do their own thing around the home when they aren't needed. For years, these companion caregivers were paid a rate that came to under minimum if you factored in all 24 hours. They really aren't on all 24.

Why shouldn't those care givers get paid the whole time they are on duty? Its not like they get to live their own lives during that time. I have friends that do this for a living and it really impacts their personal lives. They cant be home, they cant bring their partner or date over with them when they work at night. They must be ready to wake up at a moments notice to deal with any manner of unpleasant tasks. Its a difficult and important job and should be compensated accordingly.

Mugato: Why don't these people just tie a girl to some rail road tracks and complete the image?

They'd need to find someone to knot the ropes.

quickdraw: sk8r: There are issues around companies that provide 24 hour a day coverage in homes. They now have to provide it in shifts, not as 24/7 live in companions that sleep at night and do their own thing around the home when they aren't needed. For years, these companion caregivers were paid a rate that came to under minimum if you factored in all 24 hours. They really aren't on all 24.

Why shouldn't those care givers get paid the whole time they are on duty? Its not like they get to live their own lives during that time. I have friends that do this for a living and it really impacts their personal lives. They cant be home, they cant bring their partner or date over with them when they work at night. They must be ready to wake up at a moments notice to deal with any manner of unpleasant tasks. Its a difficult and important job and should be compensated accordingly.

They really aren't on duty 24/7 in these cases. They have to be provided 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep time at night and they can surf the net in their apartment while they aren't needed. They certainly can have partners/friends over depending on the situations. Many of these live in companions come in husband and wife pairs. If you know anyone who has to get up at night to deal with 'unpleasant tasks' then there are labor law violations afoot. Elders using the 24/7 companion live ins aren't the 'unpleasant task' level of care and they are independent enough to not have to wake someone at night unless it is a dire emergency.

The worker you describe is working in 8 or 12 hour shifts at night and they should be receiving minimum or more and they should be AWAKE.

I rarely venture into the politics tab. Now I know how the real lawyers on Fark feel when the GED lawyers whip it out.

I'll just finish loading my gun and sipping on this whiskey while I real this thread.

Former CMS worker- Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Nurse manger for nice home care company- we pay WAY above minimum. Amazed at what I'm reading here. Please don't vote anymore.

Just put up the Welcome to Fark meme. I like the crying guy the best.

Raspil: I'm so tired of the GOP, their evil and their shamelessness. I just can't with these motherf*ckers anymore.

As compared to the democrats that insist on taking so much from your paycheck that you'll never be able to rise above the place where you entered the work force?

Neither one are right. We need something different. This same shiat different day thing hasn't worked for decades. Don't be part of the problem.

I look forward to the next time there is a clamor for malpractice reform. There are a few choice arguments in here that will be nice to reheat.

Smeggy Smurf: As compared to the democrats that insist on taking so much from your paycheck that you'll never be able to rise above the place where you entered the work force?

No greater a force to delude ones self exists than the fear of taxes.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Raspil: I'm so tired of the GOP, their evil and their shamelessness. I just can't with these motherf*ckers anymore.

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Way to stick up for your party. Oh wait, you didn't! None of you Real Americans does anything but attack the messenger.

Maybe you should spend some of that effort on making the GOP something other than a bunch of selfish pricks who don't give a shiat about anyone but themselves.

sk8r: quickdraw: sk8r: There are issues around companies that provide 24 hour a day coverage in homes. They now have to provide it in shifts, not as 24/7 live in companions that sleep at night and do their own thing around the home when they aren't needed. For years, these companion caregivers were paid a rate that came to under minimum if you factored in all 24 hours. They really aren't on all 24.

Why shouldn't those care givers get paid the whole time they are on duty? Its not like they get to live their own lives during that time. I have friends that do this for a living and it really impacts their personal lives. They cant be home, they cant bring their partner or date over with them when they work at night. They must be ready to wake up at a moments notice to deal with any manner of unpleasant tasks. Its a difficult and important job and should be compensated accordingly.

They really aren't on duty 24/7 in these cases. They have to be provided 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep time at night and they can surf the net in their apartment while they aren't needed. They certainly can have partners/friends over depending on the situations. Many of these live in companions come in husband and wife pairs. If you know anyone who has to get up at night to deal with 'unpleasant tasks' then there are labor law violations afoot. Elders using the 24/7 companion live ins aren't the 'unpleasant task' level of care and they are independent enough to not have to wake someone at night unless it is a dire emergency.

The worker you describe is working in 8 or 12 hour shifts at night and they should be receiving minimum or more and they should be AWAKE.

Hmm well Im guessing there must be lots of different kinds of shifts and Im (fortunately) not in a situation where I need to know all the ins and outs. Obviously its different if you are living there and getting free room and board. But I have friends who do this for a living and they often work for 24 or 48 hours straight and dont live with their clients. They don't stay awake all night but they are there if needed rather than in the comfort of their own beds. They should get paid for that time.

Smeggy Smurf: As compared to the democrats that insist on taking so much from your paycheck that you'll never be able to rise above the place where you entered the work force?

No one is buying your bullshiat and you shouldn't be selling it.

sk8r: I rarely venture into the politics tab. Now I know how the real lawyers on Fark feel when the GED lawyers whip it out.

I'll just finish loading my gun and sipping on this whiskey while I real this thread.

Former CMS worker- Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Nurse manger for nice home care company- we pay WAY above minimum. Amazed at what I'm reading here. Please don't vote anymore.

Just put up the Welcome to Fark meme. I like the crying guy the best.

Thats lovely that your personal experience is different than what this issue addresses. Its obvious you think these workers should be paid more than minimum and most of the farkers here agree with you. So Im not sure why your getting all whiskeyed up and rubbing on your gun - unless thats just a normal Friday night for a former nurse manager.

MyRandomName: If you continue on that path current workers are essentially slaves of the elderly.

So, you agree the with the proposed elimination of wage standard exemptions for home health care workers?