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(UPI)   Mum... mum... mum, the super secret X-37B orbital space plane will be landing this weekend after 15 months on a secret mission. Mum... mum... mumm   (upi.com) divider line 59
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2012-06-16 03:05:41 PM
But; don't tell anyone.
 
2012-06-16 03:06:12 PM
mum

adj. Not verbalizing; silent.
interj. Used as a command to stop speaking.
Idiom: mum's the word

Say nothing of the secret you know: Mum's the word on the surprise party.
 
2012-06-16 03:07:20 PM
It's Cheney's weather machine needing a re-fill. Nothing here citizen, move along.
 
2012-06-16 03:11:20 PM
encrypted-tbn3.google.com

*YAWN*
 
2012-06-16 03:14:10 PM
It's obviously broken, as there weren't many major earthquakes while it was in orbit.
 
2012-06-16 03:15:03 PM
gotta love a transparent government. it's okay when the US does it!
 
2012-06-16 03:17:10 PM
a0.twimg.com

It's going to be landing at approximately 3:30 in the afternoon. It's payload - recordings of radio signals too week to reliably penetrate the Earth's atmosphere but may be proof of intelligence extraterrestrial life - will be immediately couriered by a 2011 Ford Explorer and two armed FBI agents to Area 51, but only after 18 hours have passed. Three other decoy convoys of will be dispatched at approximately 6 hour intervals after landing. The agents will not be carrying any cellular or radio devices to help avoid detection by foreign governments, and will be taking a detour through Yosemite National Forest north, where they will change vehicles to a pre-placed Chrysler 300 under the cover of the forest, before heading back south towards Area 51.
 
2012-06-16 03:21:52 PM
BlippityBleep SmartestFunniest 2012-06-16 03:15:03 PM


gotta love a transparent government. it's okay when the US does it!


So you favor our military sharing all of its technological secrets with everyone?

I guess that makes sense.
 
2012-06-16 03:23:23 PM
They couldn't see the plane. It had always just been there.

Mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm...
 
2012-06-16 03:25:04 PM
It has been up there putting C4 on all the Chinese and Russian satellites.

Kinda joking. That is what I would have wanted it to do.
 
2012-06-16 03:32:08 PM

jayhawk88: [a0.twimg.com image 279x268]

It's going to be landing at approximately 3:30 in the afternoon. It's payload - recordings of radio signals too week to reliably penetrate the Earth's atmosphere but may be proof of intelligence extraterrestrial life - will be immediately couriered by a 2011 Ford Explorer and two armed FBI agents to Area 51, but only after 18 hours have passed. Three other decoy convoys of will be dispatched at approximately 6 hour intervals after landing. The agents will not be carrying any cellular or radio devices to help avoid detection by foreign governments, and will be taking a detour through Yosemite National Forest north, where they will change vehicles to a pre-placed Chrysler 300 under the cover of the forest, before heading back south towards Area 51.


Rollin' into A51 in a Ghetto Bentley!

/THAT's doin' it in style!
 
2012-06-16 03:42:19 PM

SirEattonHogg: BlippityBleep SmartestFunniest 2012-06-16 03:15:03 PM


gotta love a transparent government. it's okay when the US does it!

So you favor our military sharing all of its technological secrets with everyone?

I guess that makes sense.


/ For every measure our foes know about a Countermeasure will be made and all off the Billion $$$$ will have been spent for nothing.
 
2012-06-16 03:55:18 PM
www.aviationnews.eu
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luxurycarswallpapers.com
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i.space.com
 
2012-06-16 04:06:19 PM

Nem Wan: [www.aviationnews.eu image 600x340]
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[luxurycarswallpapers.com image 378x500]
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[i.space.com image 575x359]


This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

Plus there is something very American about hitching up your space ship and driving to the launch pad.

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-06-16 04:07:17 PM
There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom.
 
2012-06-16 04:07:29 PM
i152.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-16 04:08:17 PM
The only reason we're hearing about it is that the Pentagon *wants* it to be known to other nations. Revealing it also means its a preventative measure (obviously not a sneak attack weapon) but I'm not sure what this reveal discourages. "Don't shoot down our satellites as we'll just put these up in their place"? Dunno, but the selling point has to be something to do with its long duration and maneuverability.
 
2012-06-16 04:09:14 PM
bikerbob SmartestFunniest 2012-06-16 03:42:19 PM


SirEattonHogg: BlippityBleep SmartestFunniest 2012-06-16 03:15:03 PM


gotta love a transparent government. it's okay when the US does it!

So you favor our military sharing all of its technological secrets with everyone?

I guess that makes sense.

/ For every measure our foes know about a Countermeasure will be made and all off the Billion $$$$ will have been spent for nothing.


If its an issue about how much we spend on the military, that's a different issue.

Although, I have to say this is one bit of military spending that is interesting since it continues the whole space shuttle idea and there is the possibility of X-37C (a passenger carrying space plane).
 
2012-06-16 04:15:57 PM
The US is ready to destroy enemy satellites and defend their own satellites with space weapons, and may be prepared to use kinetic impact weapons dropped from space.

/payload bay the size of a pickup truck bed
 
2012-06-16 04:25:59 PM

way south: This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.


The hypothetical manned version would be the X-37C and twice as big as the X-37B. The B is a tad small.
images.defensetech.org

The C would probably be too big to launch inside a shroud like the B does but it would still be on top of the stack, avoiding the debris damage risk that destroyed STS-107. Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.
 
2012-06-16 04:37:15 PM

Nem Wan: way south: This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

The hypothetical manned version would be the X-37C and twice as big as the X-37B. The B is a tad small.
[images.defensetech.org image 490x343]

The C would probably be too big to launch inside a shroud like the B does but it would still be on top of the stack, avoiding the debris damage risk that destroyed STS-107. Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.


if its a top secret mission they dont need to install an escape pod bc nobody will know about it if you died.
 
2012-06-16 04:48:11 PM

jayhawk88: It's going to be landing at approximately 3:30 in the afternoon. It's payload - recordings of radio signals too week to reliably penetrate the Earth's atmosphere but may be proof of intelligence extraterrestrial life - will be immediately couriered by a 2011 Ford Explorer and two armed FBI agents to Area 51, but only after 18 hours have passed. Three other decoy convoys of will be dispatched at approximately 6 hour intervals after landing. The agents will not be carrying any cellular or radio devices to help avoid detection by foreign governments, and will be taking a detour through Yosemite National Forest north, where they will change vehicles to a pre-placed Chrysler 300 under the cover of the forest, before heading back south towards Area 51.


But when will it arrive at area 51?
 
2012-06-16 04:56:00 PM
Anybody who saw that 1979 documentary on space travel, "Moonraker", can see the practical applications of having a troop transporting space plane like X-37C.
 
2012-06-16 04:58:42 PM

Nem Wan: Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.


dl.dropbox.com

They could go with ejection seats like the Gemini or Columbia had on its first mission.
The X-37 is small enough that they could also go with a pusher abort system, like what SpaceX is planning.

/Use the fuel as part of your reentry burn so that no mass is wasted.
/Ejection seats make more sense to me tho. They'll get you out of the ship for a pad fire or on an aborted landing.
/Trying to escape an exploding rocket is unlikely to ever happen smoothly.
 
2012-06-16 05:13:57 PM

Mr_H: jayhawk88: It's going to be landing at approximately 3:30 in the afternoon. It's payload - recordings of radio signals too week to reliably penetrate the Earth's atmosphere but may be proof of intelligence extraterrestrial life - will be immediately couriered by a 2011 Ford Explorer and two armed FBI agents to Area 51, but only after 18 hours have passed. Three other decoy convoys of will be dispatched at approximately 6 hour intervals after landing. The agents will not be carrying any cellular or radio devices to help avoid detection by foreign governments, and will be taking a detour through Yosemite National Forest north, where they will change vehicles to a pre-placed Chrysler 300 under the cover of the forest, before heading back south towards Area 51.

But when will it arrive at area 51?


I can't tell you, that's classified.
 
2012-06-16 05:29:14 PM

way south: Nem Wan: Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.

[dl.dropbox.com image 300x280]

They could go with ejection seats like the Gemini or Columbia had on its first mission.
The X-37 is small enough that they could also go with a pusher abort system, like what SpaceX is planning.

/Use the fuel as part of your reentry burn so that no mass is wasted.
/Ejection seats make more sense to me tho. They'll get you out of the ship for a pad fire or on an aborted landing.
/Trying to escape an exploding rocket is unlikely to ever happen smoothly.


The problem with ejection seats in spacecraft is the time window they are useful is short. It doesn't take long for the vehicle to reach speeds that would kill an ejecting astronaut and they are not useful during the most dangerous part of re-entry.

You could install ejection capsules like some supersonic bombers had, but the size/complexity/weight of them makes it more worthwhile to develop a way to move the vehicle from its rocket stack, possibly using its own maneuvering thrusters like SpaceX is working on.

The same things were brought up about the space shuttle. The early space shuttle flights had ejection seats because the only crew on board were the pilots. Using them would've been pretty dicey though.
 
2012-06-16 05:41:37 PM

way south: Nem Wan: Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.

[dl.dropbox.com image 300x280]

They could go with ejection seats like the Gemini or Columbia had on its first mission.
The X-37 is small enough that they could also go with a pusher abort system, like what SpaceX is planning.

/Use the fuel as part of your reentry burn so that no mass is wasted.
/Ejection seats make more sense to me tho. They'll get you out of the ship for a pad fire or on an aborted landing.
/Trying to escape an exploding rocket is unlikely to ever happen smoothly.



Also, there were a lot of doubts about whether a Gemini ejection from the pad would be truly survivable. Since the rocket would be in a vertical position, the seat would eject out horizontally. In order to cover enough distance away from the rocket, the seat was thus extremely powerful. The g-forces from such an ejection were going to be very injurious if survivable at all. Then you would have an unconscious astronaut close to a possibly exploding rocket, making a rescue difficult.

This is one reason why future missions went away from seats and more toward lifting the whole capsule off the rocket and flying it some distance away.
 
2012-06-16 05:52:35 PM

way south: Nem Wan: [www.aviationnews.eu image 600x340]
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[luxurycarswallpapers.com image 378x500]
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[i.space.com image 575x359]

This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

Plus there is something very American about hitching up your space ship and driving to the launch pad.

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x480]


they drove it from Washington state, through Vegas on it's way to where ever they launch it from? (that's the Stratosphere, right?)

/as opposed to a galaxy or some other heavy lift vehicle..
 
2012-06-16 06:00:58 PM
I love all the herpa-derpa about this on the Space.com facebook comments. OMG OBAMA HAS REVEALED OUR BIG SECRETELEVNTYMOOSLIM!1!1!!!11!1

I dont know about you guys but I saw pics of this thing on Google images over a year ago. The plane isn't a secret. The mission is.

/herpaderpa
 
2012-06-16 06:16:13 PM

TheDirtyNacho: way south: Nem Wan: Not sure how a launch escape system would work though; seems big for an escape rocket and parachute and it would need some minimum altitude and energy to be able to glide.

[dl.dropbox.com image 300x280]

They could go with ejection seats like the Gemini or Columbia had on its first mission.
The X-37 is small enough that they could also go with a pusher abort system, like what SpaceX is planning.

/Use the fuel as part of your reentry burn so that no mass is wasted.
/Ejection seats make more sense to me tho. They'll get you out of the ship for a pad fire or on an aborted landing.
/Trying to escape an exploding rocket is unlikely to ever happen smoothly.

The problem with ejection seats in spacecraft is the time window they are useful is short. It doesn't take long for the vehicle to reach speeds that would kill an ejecting astronaut and they are not useful during the most dangerous part of re-entry.

You could install ejection capsules like some supersonic bombers had, but the size/complexity/weight of them makes it more worthwhile to develop a way to move the vehicle from its rocket stack, possibly using its own maneuvering thrusters like SpaceX is working on.

The same things were brought up about the space shuttle. The early space shuttle flights had ejection seats because the only crew on board were the pilots. Using them would've been pretty dicey though.


Agreed that ejection seats are limited. But their two main points of operation are in the two phases we worry about most. Pad to Mach 1 and after reentry, before touchdown. If you survive the first few seconds, you are going fast enough for winged return.
Not much can be done for reentry itself unless we revive the MOOSE, which I think we should despite the weight.

The space safety record so far reads: Three dead on pad fires, seven on ascent, eleven on reentry and only one successful deployment of an abort tower.
Trying to recover with the ship is unlikely.
 
2012-06-16 06:21:47 PM

strutin: way south: Nem Wan: [www.aviationnews.eu image 600x340]
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[luxurycarswallpapers.com image 378x500]
=
[i.space.com image 575x359]

This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

Plus there is something very American about hitching up your space ship and driving to the launch pad.

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x480]

they drove it from Washington state, through Vegas on it's way to where ever they launch it from? (that's the Stratosphere, right?)

/as opposed to a galaxy or some other heavy lift vehicle..


Not sure, they launch from Florida eventually.
It could also fly from vandenberg.

/plane time expensive, truck time cheap.
 
2012-06-16 06:22:54 PM
Two words: Andromeda Strain.
 
2012-06-16 07:09:39 PM

Perducci: It's obviously broken, as there weren't many major earthquakes while it was in orbit.


The earthquakes happen when it lands.
 
2012-06-16 07:10:42 PM
It's bringing back the secret of wormholes.
 
2012-06-16 07:14:11 PM
I think it was measuring Obama's balls.
 
2012-06-16 07:20:48 PM

SirEattonHogg: BlippityBleep SmartestFunniest 2012-06-16 03:15:03 PM


gotta love a transparent government. it's okay when the US does it!

So you favor our military sharing all of its technological secrets with everyone?

I guess that makes sense.


yes. that way there isn't shiat they can use against their own citizens that we wouldn't know about. everybody knows we have nuclear power, but not everybody is able to do it, right?

but yeah, keep your scared shiatless 'let's spend billions more than necessary because peple r jelous of ur freedums' cowardice.
 
2012-06-16 07:35:58 PM
I don't know anything about a secret space plane, but the link has a cool pic of a dildo with a force field around it.
 
2012-06-16 07:48:53 PM
It doesn't sound very "secret" to me.

Perhaps this is the decoy "secret ship" that we're all supposed to be distracted by while the "real" secret mission was being performed by a different ship up there doing it's secret-stuff that nobody is supposed to know about.

Oh wait, someone's knocking at the door.... BRB
 
2012-06-16 07:55:12 PM

Perducci: It's obviously broken, as there weren't many major earthquakes while it was in orbit.


www.omni.to
 
2012-06-16 08:19:11 PM
wonder if you'll be able to see the strings when it lands
 
2012-06-16 08:32:24 PM

Posh Naranek: Perducci: It's obviously broken, as there weren't many major earthquakes while it was in orbit.

[www.omni.to image 453x693]


It's supposed to distract you from what's *really* going on at HAARP


//are they still even running that?
 
X15
2012-06-16 08:37:20 PM

strutin: way south: Nem Wan: [www.aviationnews.eu image 600x340]
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[luxurycarswallpapers.com image 378x500]
=
[i.space.com image 575x359]

This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

Plus there is something very American about hitching up your space ship and driving to the launch pad.

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x480]

they drove it from Washington state, through Vegas on it's way to where ever they launch it from? (that's the Stratosphere, right?)

/as opposed to a galaxy or some other heavy lift vehicle..


Washington state? It lands at Vandenberg AFB in California.

But it's a test article, not OTV-1 or 2.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/07/picture-tailga ti ng-the-x-37-in.html
 
2012-06-16 08:47:31 PM
If this thing was anymore secret, the X-37B would be getting it's own ticker-tape parade through New York.
 
2012-06-16 09:00:38 PM
Moonraker was a very good documentary
 
2012-06-16 09:15:07 PM
I'm assuming it spent most of those 15 months docked to the ISS or something, because there is no way something that small could hold enough air for even one crewmember to last even one month in space on it's own, and that's before counting things like food or micro-g toiletries.
 
2012-06-16 09:51:25 PM

NephilimNexus: I'm assuming it spent most of those 15 months docked to the ISS or something, because there is no way something that small could hold enough air for even one crewmember to last even one month in space on it's own, and that's before counting things like food or micro-g toiletries.


1/10
 
2012-06-16 10:15:04 PM
0 G manufacturing?
 
2012-06-16 10:33:04 PM

X15: strutin: way south: Nem Wan: [www.aviationnews.eu image 600x340]
+
[luxurycarswallpapers.com image 378x500]
=
[i.space.com image 575x359]

This thing is alot closer to what the shuttle should have been. Small, efficient, reusable and adaptable.
Its still a mystery to me why Boeing is proceeding with the CST 100, to compete against four other capsules, when you've got a perfectly good spaceplane that just needs the chairs and windows installed.

Plus there is something very American about hitching up your space ship and driving to the launch pad.

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x480]

they drove it from Washington state, through Vegas on it's way to where ever they launch it from? (that's the Stratosphere, right?)

/as opposed to a galaxy or some other heavy lift vehicle..

Washington state? It lands at Vandenberg AFB in California.

But it's a test article, not OTV-1 or 2.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/07/picture-tailga ti ng-the-x-37-in.html


well, I figured it was built at Boeing's Everett facility and was being trucked to the launch site..


i'm not up on all the sooper sekrit places these things get built at..:-)
 
2012-06-16 10:51:06 PM

SirEattonHogg: Anybody who saw that 1979 documentary on space travel, "Moonraker", can see the practical applications of having a troop transporting space plane like X-37C.


"I think he's attempting re-entry."
 
X15
2012-06-16 10:55:12 PM

strutin: well, I figured it was built at Boeing's Everett facility and was being trucked to the launch site..


i'm not up on all the sooper sekrit places these things get built at..:-)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_42
 
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