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(BBC-US)   Is the Earth being pushed to its breaking point by us humans? Short answer: YES. Long answer: YES, but we still can do something about it   (bbc.com) divider line 26
    More: Obvious, Earth, tipping points, ocean acidification, ozone holes, rio  
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NFA [TotalFark]
2012-06-16 08:23:01 AM  
4 votes:
NO you don't understand. GOD said to keep having children until every resource on the planet is consumed and mass famine and endless conflict result. It's GOD's way people don't you understand???

When GOD says "good stewardship" he really means removing all regulation from corporations so that they can destroy the environment for profit. It means to take from the poor and give to the rich without conscience.
2012-06-16 02:26:11 PM  
2 votes:
The conservative camp believes the answer is for humans to do less of everything. The radical camp believes technology and human ingenuity will prevent catastrophe.

I'm firmly in the radical camp. If the earth gets too hot, I intend to create a human shield out of the bodies of people and place a giant space net of frozen cadavers over the planet to provide shade. I'm talking about using lesser people, like those from New Jersey or the entire audience of The Big Bang Theory.

In my future, "Jersey Barrier" will have an entirely different meaning.
2012-06-16 02:22:11 PM  
2 votes:
Buckminister Fuller calculated that the world can comfortably sustain a human population of 40 billion.

Mind you, we'll have to cultivate everything and there would be no wild spaces left, but we're not even close to being there yet. We just have to get better organized, and come together as a planet to forge a new era of peaceful cohabitation with each other, under the guidance of wise leaders and sound resource management.

...

fark, we're doomed.
2012-06-16 02:14:11 PM  
2 votes:
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2012-06-16 02:11:40 PM  
2 votes:
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2012-06-16 01:57:30 PM  
2 votes:

NFA: NO you don't understand. GOD said to keep having children until every resource on the planet is consumed and mass famine and endless conflict result. It's GOD's way people don't you understand???

When GOD says "good stewardship" he really means removing all regulation from corporations so that they can destroy the environment for profit. It means to take from the poor and give to the rich without conscience.


You'd think a deity named after the word for "deity" wouldn't have to shout, frankly.

It's like naming your kid Homo.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-16 11:45:40 AM  
2 votes:
Forget Earth. Shareholder value is what matters.
2012-06-16 09:13:22 AM  
2 votes:
Pshaw. The entire population of the world could stand up next to each other in Rhode Island. Therefore we're fine.
2012-06-16 05:31:06 PM  
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: It is such a relief that people are finally talking about human overpopulation as part of the climate conversation. For years I was screaming about how stupid it was to focus on lowering per capita carbon emissions by 10% while our population increased by 15% over the same time span. Everyone called me a Nazi and said that I was advocating eugenics (I wasn't) or the extinction of the human race (again, stupid). For some reason liberals love to drone on about recycling and driving hybrid cars and other worthless gestures, but don't want to touch the politically incorrect subject of "Maybe you people shouldn't be having six f**king kids." I could spend the rest of my life driving a stretch limo Hummer and throwing all of my recyclables in the garbage and I have already done far more for the environment than any person who adds even one more stupid resource-to-waste conversion machine to this planet.


Don't fark in the front hole

pjc51: The problem is that nobody has ever implemented anything which hasn't been massively inhumane in some way, with the exception of the one way which is known to work: improving living standards so people don't want to have kids.


Bingo.
2012-06-16 04:27:14 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: MBA Whore: Are there any Environmental Scientists / Geologist reading this? If I wanted to study these subjects for a 2nd degree, then are there any recommended classes, etc?


Everything you ever wanted to know about anything can be found right here on FARK.


Confused? You won't be after reading this episode of FARK
2012-06-16 04:03:18 PM  
1 votes:
With so many points to be missed popping up iin this thread, I'm reminded of one solid piece of advice I learned early on the net -- try to steer clear of the pricks on the internet.
2012-06-16 03:48:58 PM  
1 votes:

Tinton: Nuke Africa. Let the fallout destroy Asia. Problem solved, 3-4 billion darkies eliminated.


your racism is only surpassed by your lack of knowledge concerning global wind patterns.
2012-06-16 03:42:38 PM  
1 votes:
Nuke Africa. Let the fallout destroy Asia. Problem solved, 3-4 billion darkies eliminated.
2012-06-16 02:59:15 PM  
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Kumana Wanalaia: chuckufarlie: When we are beyond the tipping point, will these idiots shut up?

I'm sorry that you feel threatened by the people who are trying to stop your masters and useful fools like yourself from causing a catastrophe.

Also, your mother dresses you funny.

wow, take an English Class. YOU'RE, not YOUR. And with that I see no need to deal with an idiot.


no u
2012-06-16 02:22:01 PM  
1 votes:
If each of us killed just two people, the problem would be solved.
2012-06-16 02:21:06 PM  
1 votes:

RibbyK: So if we continue to do nothing a) more land becomes available under the existing ice, and b) less food means fewer people. Sounds like a self-correcting win-win.

With the melting ice, the glass is half full and getting fuller.


Yay! Someone learned the concept of Carrying Capacity!
2012-06-16 02:19:38 PM  
1 votes:

FarkinHostile: Happy Hours: nekom: Pshaw. The entire population of the world could stand up next to each other in Rhode Island. Therefore we're fine.

Wouldn't that cause the island to tip over?

Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island.


But it is a rhode.
2012-06-16 02:12:44 PM  
1 votes:

Gosling: The US as a whole will probably need Miami to start actually going beneath the waves for good, and the realization that you can't very well levee the entire Florida peninsula, to go 'Hey, maybe we ought to do something about this and stop waiting for China to take the lead on it'. And even then people will biatch that they'd be ruining the view from the hotel rooms right up until those hotels become uninhabitable.


Showing off the silver lining won't change anyone's minds.
2012-06-16 02:12:12 PM  
1 votes:
FTFH: "Is the Earth being pushed to its breaking point by us humans? Short answer: YESNO. Long answer: YESNO, but we still can do something about it should take better care of the only home we'll ever have"

There...FTFY, subs.

Oh, and the BBC never met an environmental catastrophe they didn't like.
2012-06-16 02:12:11 PM  
1 votes:
We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these farking people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the farking planet?

I'm getting tired of that shiat. Tired of that shiat. I'm tired of farking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a shiat about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are farked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shiat, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole.

So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that's begun. Don't you think that's already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let's see... Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh...viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

Well, that's a poetic note. And it's a start. And I can dream, can't I? See I don't worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we're part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron...whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn't punish, it doesn't reward, it doesn't judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.
2012-06-16 02:07:14 PM  
1 votes:

FarkinHostile: Happy Hours: nekom: Pshaw. The entire population of the world could stand up next to each other in Rhode Island. Therefore we're fine.

Wouldn't that cause the island to tip over?

Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island.


I think he's referring to this: Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is afraid that the U.S. Territory of Guam is going to "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation.
2012-06-16 02:04:40 PM  
1 votes:
Framing the discussion as the End of the World doesn't help. We're staring at very real problems that will probably cause a lot of people to suffer slow, horrible deaths and cost everyone else vast sums of money and effort to adapt to but it literally isn't the End of the World and this "we're doomed!" claptrap isn't productive.
2012-06-16 02:03:17 PM  
1 votes:
All climate scientists should immediately kill themselves to save the planet.
2012-06-16 01:55:28 PM  
1 votes:

Happy Hours: nekom: Pshaw. The entire population of the world could stand up next to each other in Rhode Island. Therefore we're fine.

Wouldn't that cause the island to tip over?


Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island.
2012-06-16 01:23:49 PM  
1 votes:
If by "do something" you mean "vehemently deny there's a problem" and "even if there would be a problem we're sure it's nothing that God won't take care of" then sure. Otherwise, lolgoodluckwiththat
2012-06-16 12:53:16 PM  
1 votes:

nekom: Pshaw. The entire population of the world could stand up next to each other in Rhode Island. Therefore we're fine.


Wouldn't that cause the island to tip over?
 
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