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(News On 6 Tulsa)   City: "Your yard is overgrown and in code violation" Woman: "I checked before planting and according to the law it isn't. That garden provides my food." City: "We don't care. Send in the mowers"   (newson6.com) divider line 52
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2012-06-16 03:01:18 AM  
5 votes:

Mark Ratner: quickdraw: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

CONFORM! YOU MUST CONFORM!

Property value is kind of a big deal, sorry. Conform in your backyard, please.


Nothing. Ever. In the history of all civilization, will give Tulsa any semblance of property value.
2012-06-16 06:47:19 AM  
4 votes:

IronOcelot: Yeah.
I hope she wins and gets enough money to slap in a BIGGER garden. With a sign on the fence that has the ordinance in huge bolded font.


I hope she gets a pig and some chickens.
2012-06-16 02:28:41 AM  
4 votes:

Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?


Yes. I think the reason is that they're assholes.
2012-06-16 01:30:36 PM  
3 votes:
i486.photobucket.com
I hate the ass-clowns that grow these in their front yards.
2012-06-16 12:40:25 PM  
2 votes:
A nation of grass farmers
2012-06-16 11:42:39 AM  
2 votes:

Mark Ratner: cptjeff: Mark Ratner: quickdraw: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

CONFORM! YOU MUST CONFORM!

Property value is kind of a big deal, sorry. Conform in your backyard, please.

Property value is an annoying concept dreampt up by assholes who don't see any utility in actually living in a house. See, some of us are crazy enough to think that houses are, first and foremost, places to live. That means putting gardens where we like, letting kids play in our yards (which means your toxic fertilizers can suck it), painting it whatever color pleases us.

Take your property value and shove it. The value of your property doesn't go down when people have a garden. The value of your property goes down when the economy farking collapses.

I hope she files a harassment suit against these "neighbors" and the city.

If you want to make your entire front yard a garden, then move to the f*ckin country.


I thought Tulsa WAS the f*ckin' country!
2012-06-16 11:06:35 AM  
2 votes:
Mark Ratner

"I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat."

Don't look at it. Problem solved.

"So I say live and let live. That's my motto: Live and let live. Anyone who can't go along with that, take 'em outside and shoot the motherfarker." - George Carlin
2012-06-16 10:35:11 AM  
2 votes:

MBrady:

So you wouldn't mind that next door neighbor put 12 used toilets out in the front yard and used them as planters,


Can we narrow this down a bit? Are we talking just the tanks?

www.toilettanklid.com

Or just the bowls?

farm5.staticflickr.com

Or the whole thing?

i307.photobucket.com

Or some sort of design thing?

2.bp.blogspot.com

Cause there's a lot of possibilities out there.

/all on the first page of the GIS, too
//hot like the peppers in my greenhouse
2012-06-16 09:41:26 AM  
2 votes:

MBrady: So you wouldn't mind that next door neighbor put 12 used toilets out in the front yard and used them as planters, left 3 vehicles up on blocks in the driveway, and painted his house pink? Because as you say, it's only the economy that makes property values go down.


I like this.... I'm going to take 12 used toilets, put THEM up on blocks, paint THEM pink, then use them for planters. Fark zoning or the neighbors, this will be my artistic, first-amendment protected, free-speechifying statement against big-agra, and nobody, NOBODY, yeah, not even YOU, mister, can stop me fro...gbnxcjdyyswg (thud)
2012-06-16 09:22:51 AM  
2 votes:
I live in a heavily Portuguese/Italian neighbourhood in Toronto. People's postage-stamp front yards are for growing herbs and tomatoes, and for virgin mary shrines. It would probably give the neighbours and city officials in this story aneurisms. Why do Americans hate freedom?
2012-06-16 09:12:30 AM  
2 votes:
She probably got bronchitis. Ain't nobody got time for that.

/Step. 1) Go over code enforcement building with fine tooth comb looking for Accessibility violations.
///Step 3) Revenge.
2012-06-16 08:06:14 AM  
2 votes:
So here's this bootstrappy person taking care of her own needs and living a frugal life and the small government libertarian Farkers are ridiculing her because they worship theoretical property value aesthetics.
2012-06-16 07:57:56 AM  
2 votes:

Coelacanth: IronOcelot: Yeah.
I hope she wins and gets enough money to slap in a BIGGER garden. With a sign on the fence that has the ordinance in huge bolded font.

I hope she gets a pig and some chickens.


Two pigs and a goat.

i.telegraph.co.uk
2012-06-16 07:42:50 AM  
2 votes:
planning on putting a bay tree in our little front yard.

Looking for other recommendations for north facing, clay soil in damp environment (UK)

(trying to hijack this into a garden thread)
2012-06-16 06:22:58 AM  
2 votes:
What do you Libs think this is, a free country or something?
2012-06-16 06:08:32 AM  
2 votes:
OK I've changed my mind. Now I'm in favor of stand your ground.
2012-06-16 03:02:17 AM  
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: Mark Ratner: The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

Yeah. They're jealous that they pay out the ass for groceries/disgusted that this woman eats vegetables. Pick one.


She also uses herbal medicine. Burn her.
2012-06-16 02:32:13 AM  
2 votes:

Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?


CONFORM! YOU MUST CONFORM!
2012-06-17 09:53:30 PM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: cptjeff: Mark Ratner: quickdraw: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

CONFORM! YOU MUST CONFORM!

Property value is kind of a big deal, sorry. Conform in your backyard, please.

Property value is an annoying concept dreampt up by assholes who don't see any utility in actually living in a house. See, some of us are crazy enough to think that houses are, first and foremost, places to live. That means putting gardens where we like, letting kids play in our yards (which means your toxic fertilizers can suck it), painting it whatever color pleases us.

Take your property value and shove it. The value of your property doesn't go down when people have a garden. The value of your property goes down when the economy farking collapses.

I hope she files a harassment suit against these "neighbors" and the city.

If you want to make your entire front yard a garden, then move to the f*ckin country.


If you don't want neighbors because what they do on their own property offends you, YOU move to the farking country
2012-06-17 04:51:40 AM  
1 votes:

Straelbora: Oh, boy, the conservatives who forget that 'a man's home is his castle,' with a second grader's understanding of rule of law.


The "castle law" is to allow you to shoot people, not grow vegetables.

There's nothing more 'boot strappy' than growing your own food.

Yes there is - living on dried beans until you can find a position where you generate profit for an employer.
2012-06-17 03:12:11 AM  
1 votes:

7th Son of a 7th Son: Given that this was in Oklahoma, and in my city no less, I'm honestly surprised that she didn't shoot them once they were on her property.


Given she was black, I am surprised they city didn't shoot -HER- for being on her property.
2012-06-17 01:19:51 AM  
1 votes:
Also, you mentioned a truck in her driveway.

Who the fark cares? Vehicles go in driveways. So hers doesn't run. WHO CARES? It' not like it's in the street blocking anyone else's parking. Maybe she's saving up the money to have it repaired in the future.

And the only reason the garden looked "weedy" is because people like you have this weird problem with front yards not being identical squares of green.

Again, eat my asshole, Mark Rutner. Eat it with hollandaise sauce.
2012-06-16 04:38:14 PM  
1 votes:
Is there a place we can donate funds or seedlings to her? I'd be pissed as hell if someone mowed down my gardens! :(

/got a 5 foot tall dwarf banana tree on my desk at work
//its like a green indoor patio umbrella
2012-06-16 03:58:00 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't it terrorism to do damage to crops? Send the entire city government of Tulsa to the gallows.
2012-06-16 03:47:50 PM  
1 votes:

CrispFlows: GreatGlavinsGhost: did a thesis paper on this, it is amazing how we've all fight so hard to keep the lawn industry rich, instead of following common sense.

Is this online? I'd like to read it.

/No snark.


I also am interested in reading it.


The long and short of it is, you have another legitimate reason to hate the Scottish.
2012-06-16 03:22:15 PM  
1 votes:

NFA: Mark Ratner: I wouldn't want to live next door to her,

You are precisely the kind of person I told my real estate agent I wanted to avoid living near. I'm not interested in living near self involved jackasses who aren't happy unless they're meddling in the business of everyone around them.


Yeah God forbid you pay $200k for a home then live next to people who take care of their lawns, that would be farking horrible.
2012-06-16 02:44:21 PM  
1 votes:
jillsbooks.files.wordpress.com

"My house is me and I am it. My house looks just like all my dreams and I am happy when I am in it."
2012-06-16 02:43:53 PM  
1 votes:

bel4sucks: This line of defense is scarier than any government oversight. You want to blame the city worker who had a city issued work order. It's not the messenger's job to dictate right and wrong. You gonna take a jail sentence or fines because someone above you farked up on a work order? Cause if you (any everyone else) aren't willing to do that, then stfu.


So your idea is: there should be no consequences for the folks who committed an unlawful act, so long as they work for the city?

I think we've discovered someone who leans on a shovel for the county, folks.
2012-06-16 02:05:18 PM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: Property value is kind of a big deal, sorry. Conform in your backyard, please.


No its not, unless youre trying to sell your house. Otherwise a lower property value means a lower tax bill, i fail to see the problem.
2012-06-16 01:29:24 PM  
1 votes:

suburbanguy: The My Little Pony Killer: Mark Ratner: I guess I might be wrong, because I'm disagreeing with people I usually agree with.

Just keep in mind, there are no before pics of her front and backyard. Also, the article is her side of the story because she filed a lawsuit.

There's a before and after shot right there in TFA.

Not on the mobile page.


And therefore Sarah Palin is world president and Obama has to clean out her toilets.

Or you could just switch to the regular version instead of acting as though the pictures don't count.
2012-06-16 12:23:51 PM  
1 votes:
I doubt i'll ever get the opportunity but I'd want to make my lawn a completely alien looking landscape. Colored sand, weird looking fake tree's and plants..i'd make it look like pandora in my backyard.
2012-06-16 12:02:24 PM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?


Yeah because all neighbors are completely sane and honorable.
www.blogcdn.com

/hot like the fires of hell waiting for her
2012-06-16 11:26:39 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: If you want to make your entire front yard a garden, then move to the f*ckin country.


How about, if you want to control everything within view of your house, you buy all that farking land yourself.
2012-06-16 10:33:36 AM  
1 votes:
The actual problem: she lives in Tulsa.

Solution: Move.
2012-06-16 10:30:24 AM  
1 votes:

Flat_Panda: Fifi Le Pew: I read somewhere that America's obsession with lawns is some kind of throwback to what we feel looks wealthy.
Yup, it dates back to rich estates in France, but really didn't take off in America until Better Homes and Garden and Scotts used social pressure to force new yards on us. All the way up to and through WWII people used yards to grow food for themselves and their livestock.

Today yards are design to be endless stream revenue for the lawn industry. Grass is monoculture and preferred varieties are not drought tolerant. (Ever let you grass go brown during a drought. Notice which plants are still green? The so called weeds- there is no money to be made from plants that don't need fertilizer- so the industry declares them "bad')

They require a ridiculous amount of water that rivals many states water use set aside for food crops. Removal of "weeds" like clover remove natural ways to replenish soil nutrients. So chemical are need to feed the lawns which kills the soil setting up the endless cash cycle of fertilizing. In America, more is always better, so people over fertilize leading to run off which cause a host of problem in rivers, lakes, and drinking water. Not letting grass grow out to seed requires having to reseed periodical.

I did a thesis paper on this, it is amazing how we've all fight so hard to keep the lawn industry rich, instead of following common sense.


===============

Yup. I know someone who ripped out his lawn and covered his yard with decorative stone. The town issued him a summons after the neighbors complained. His lawyer pointed out that there was no town ordinance requiring a grass lawn. The town then passed a ordinance requiring grass lawns. My friend got to keep his stone covered yard because he was grandfathered.
2012-06-16 09:50:06 AM  
1 votes:

MBrady: So you wouldn't mind living next to someone with 12 used toilets out in the front yard and used them as planters, left 3 vehicles up on blocks in the driveway, and painted his house pink?


Nope. I live in a well to do ecliptic neighborhood. You will see a supermarket cart used as a planter in front of a house painted with black stripes on top of pink next to a 900k McMansion. At yet we all manage to get along.

/largely because we don't have asses like you living in our neighborhood
2012-06-16 09:45:45 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?


The horror, THE HORROR of having to look at a bunch of overgrown plants whenever they looked out the window! How inconsiderate of this woman not to realize she might be offending the subjective tastes of these people.
2012-06-16 09:25:48 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: If you want to make your entire front yard a garden, then move to the f*ckin country.


If you don't want you neighbors to have a garden, then move to a f*ckin condo.
2012-06-16 09:17:43 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: If Americans had any of their original spirit left,


...we'd be slaves forced to build another White House.
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-06-16 08:58:52 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: I wouldn't want to live next door to her,


You are precisely the kind of person I told my real estate agent I wanted to avoid living near. I'm not interested in living near self involved jackasses who aren't happy unless they're meddling in the business of everyone around them.
2012-06-16 08:42:12 AM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

Yes. I think the reason is that they're assholes.


Welcome to civilization. Now stop being different.
2012-06-16 08:19:08 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: If Americans had any of their original spirit left, we'd fall upon the city inspectors and tar and feather them then drive them out of the city by horsewhipping them in the gonads until they finally were driven into the wilderness to their perish in ignominy and shame for their abuse of the very authority countless of their countrymen gave life and limb to defeat many times in the past.


Your ideas intrigue me. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
2012-06-16 08:10:59 AM  
1 votes:
Lower property values, eh?

I wonder if she would allow a few volunteers to paint her house in a hot pink and purple plaid pattern, and then see how the neighbors react. You thought the veggies were bad?
2012-06-16 07:43:45 AM  
1 votes:
Today's episode of heavy-handed busybody local bureaucracy brought to you by the party of small government, no doubt.
2012-06-16 07:24:11 AM  
1 votes:

The Why Not Guy: The American obsession with manicured "golf course" lawns is something I'll never understand. I'm not saying neighbors should have to look at overgrown weeds, but what's wrong with a yard planted with wildflowers or well tended vegetables or whatever
plants are native to the area?


*bashes Smart button repeatedly*
2012-06-16 07:21:33 AM  
1 votes:
this time, she read the ordinance,plants can't be over 12-inches tall unless they're used for human consumption

No hedge rows in Tulsa?

AbbeySomeone: Yep. Who gives a sh*t about their neighbors plants? Mine are loud but don't say jack about my yard.


Talking plants? Do you have one named Audrey II?
2012-06-16 07:06:48 AM  
1 votes:
She should just leave the property a dirt lot. I'm sure that'd be just fantastic for property values.
2012-06-16 06:26:49 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: I will never support her derp hero.


We get it. She's black.
2012-06-16 03:19:38 AM  
1 votes:
If Americans had any of their original spirit left, we'd fall upon the city inspectors and tar and feather them then drive them out of the city by horsewhipping them in the gonads until they finally were driven into the wilderness to their perish in ignominy and shame for their abuse of the very authority countless of their countrymen gave life and limb to defeat many times in the past.
2012-06-16 03:03:59 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: quickdraw: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

CONFORM! YOU MUST CONFORM!

Property value is kind of a big deal, sorry. Conform in your backyard, please.


Property value is an annoying concept dreampt up by assholes who don't see any utility in actually living in a house. See, some of us are crazy enough to think that houses are, first and foremost, places to live. That means putting gardens where we like, letting kids play in our yards (which means your toxic fertilizers can suck it), painting it whatever color pleases us.

Take your property value and shove it. The value of your property doesn't go down when people have a garden. The value of your property goes down when the economy farking collapses.

I hope she files a harassment suit against these "neighbors" and the city.
2012-06-16 03:00:33 AM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: Bathia_Mapes: propasaurus: Yes. I think the reason is that they're assholes.

I concur. She was growing plants & trees for food, and whether or not her neighbors or the city like it, it's legal.

And she took the time to research the appropriate ordinances so she would be in compliance.


One of those walnuts may have dropped on the neighbor's lawn. We have nut trees, they're messy.
2012-06-16 02:32:59 AM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: Mark Ratner: Bathia_Mapes: AbbeySomeone: I hope she wins.

As do I.

I wouldn't want to live next door to her, if she has these plants in her front yard. It probably looks like shiat.

Fenced in backyard, fine.

The neighbors complained for a reason, don't ya think?

Yes. I think the reason is that they're assholes.


You might be right...but without pics, who knows. I'd like to think the city code enforcement drove by, and agreed with the asshole neighbors.
 
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