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(Nola.com)   Turns out when Goodell said he had 5,000 pages of evidence against the Saints, it was more like 200. Apparently, most of that is newspaper clippings about Goodell having 5,000 pages of evidence   (nola.com) divider line 15
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2012-06-17 02:09:22 AM
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Sargun: steamingpile: Sargun: steamingpile: davidphogan: steamingpile: I think they have Greg Williams feeding them information to lighten his "indefinite" suspension but is hesitant to testify in court.

Given that his Weeners wasn't a denial but, "I accept full responsibility for my actions," I have to think he was caught doing something.

Dont dare say that to the saints apologist fans though, thats crazy talk to them.

2/10

Points because robsul bit

It wasnt a troll but I knew rob would bite, doesnt matter I have had him blocked for a while now. Hes a bandwagon fan who only started following them after they started winning so this ruins his bandwagon fandom since they were playing dirty.

Fact remains something was going on, the coaches know it and most of the players do as well, only Vilma wants to scream hes innocent, my guess was it was only a ploy to get his suspension reduced and it didnt work so he has to play it out hoping his lawyer can find something......

Personally I think they got off light.

"Fact remains something was going on" - yes, a pay-for-performance scheme is the only thing that is factually supported by any sort of evidence; such schemes, while against the rules, are commonplace and this has been admitted by various players and coaches from different teams playing in different eras. The only reason you care so much is because the Saints crush the dirty birds year in and year out, and you're hoping that the falcons can lose their way into the playoffs under a Saints collapse.


Really? Are you serious? Even with the saints recent winning they are still trailing the series, I will admit I miss the days where we didn't even have to watch the game because it was a guaranteed win but it appears they are in the midst of pissing off the sole reason for their winning ways.

And even is such pay for plays schemes are common place they are certainly not sanctioned by the coaching staff, or by the GM, and most teams would stop when the NFL tells the team to knock it the fark off. That is why I think they got off lightly by keeping it going after those meetings.

Also no matter what rob and other saints fans think, the rivalry is just not that big to falcons fans and hasn't been since the 80s. The bandwagon fans they got in the past 5-6 years have passed pats fans as the most obnoxious and hated league wide. Only saints fans ignore that fact.
2012-06-16 11:38:50 PM
1 votes:

Sargun: steamingpile: davidphogan: steamingpile: I think they have Greg Williams feeding them information to lighten his "indefinite" suspension but is hesitant to testify in court.

Given that his Weeners wasn't a denial but, "I accept full responsibility for my actions," I have to think he was caught doing something.

Dont dare say that to the saints apologist fans though, thats crazy talk to them.

2/10

Points because robsul bit


It wasnt a troll but I knew rob would bite, doesnt matter I have had him blocked for a while now. Hes a bandwagon fan who only started following them after they started winning so this ruins his bandwagon fandom since they were playing dirty.

Fact remains something was going on, the coaches know it and most of the players do as well, only Vilma wants to scream hes innocent, my guess was it was only a ploy to get his suspension reduced and it didnt work so he has to play it out hoping his lawyer can find something......

Personally I think they got off light.
2012-06-16 11:28:38 PM
1 votes:

Sargun: 2/10

Points because robsul bit


That's not a troll. That's a genuine moron.
2012-06-16 11:08:27 PM
1 votes:

steamingpile: Dont dare say that to the saints apologist fans though, thats crazy talk to them.


Yes, don't dare point out what words do and do not appear in GW's statement, or else morons like you will keep assuming what's contained in it.
2012-06-16 11:06:39 PM
1 votes:

davidphogan: steamingpile: I think they have Greg Williams feeding them information to lighten his "indefinite" suspension but is hesitant to testify in court.

Given that his Weeners wasn't a denial but, "I accept full responsibility for my actions," I have to think he was caught doing something.


Dont dare say that to the saints apologist fans though, thats crazy talk to them.
2012-06-16 10:04:45 PM
1 votes:

steamingpile: I think they have Greg Williams feeding them information to lighten his "indefinite" suspension but is hesitant to testify in court.


Given that his Weeners wasn't a denial but, "I accept full responsibility for my actions," I have to think he was caught doing something.
2012-06-16 09:18:25 PM
1 votes:
IMHO Roger and the NFL knuckle crackers jumped to conclusions and made the evidence fit the crime.
2012-06-16 09:09:25 PM
1 votes:

steamingpile: More selective reading by saints defenders, they released evidence for this case


Yep, we're being selective in noticing that 50,000 pages suddenly turned into 200...which is actually 16, as the figure of 200 pages is reached by printing out every slide of his PowerPoint presentation on the topic, which Vilma's lawyer says is mostly quotes from GW speeches. That's right, Goodell acted like a college kid trying desperately to reach the teacher's threshold for the minimum length of his term paper. What's next, we see the 16 pages themselves have ridiculous margins on top of it? We're also being selective in noting they didn't present a list of witnesses to back their story up, didn't cite the ledger that doesn't correspond to what the NFL says, and cited an online rant by Pamphilon and a Triplett T-P article as evidence despite both being published after the players were punished, and the latter being an interview with Scott Shanle that specifically states how the players didn't take GW literally when he'd go over the top.

Bad form, "nitpicking" like that.

that doesn't mean more doesn't exist.

You keep hoping and praying it does. We'll keep noting that this is Roger's 76th round of "just trust me" bullshiat on the matter.
2012-06-16 07:48:58 PM
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robsul82: downstairs: If this were a real court trial, no one would be convicted, and the judge would give a big "fark you" to the prosecution.

Speaking of which (kinda), I'm sure there'll be a thread Monday when Commissioner Joffrey rejects the players' appeals and it'll pass the 20 count in here in 20 seconds, lol.


Same thing happens on reddit. It's hilariously bad.
2012-06-16 07:12:46 PM
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downstairs: If this were a real court trial, no one would be convicted, and the judge would give a big "fark you" to the prosecution.


Speaking of which (kinda), I'm sure there'll be a thread Monday when Commissioner Joffrey rejects the players' appeals and it'll pass the 20 count in here in 20 seconds, lol.
2012-06-16 05:50:33 PM
1 votes:
Amazing how the "turns out blank isn't what the league says it is" threads get a fraction of the comments of "the league says this" threads.

/and then the people in the latter just pretend none of the former happened
2012-06-16 04:40:27 PM
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downstairs: Orgasmatron138: The Saints kept a ledger. A FRIGGIN' LEDGER.

Idiots.

If you believe everything you hear on sports talk radio, I feel sorry for you.


Saints got 99 problems but a ledger ain't one?

/it sounded cool in my head
2012-06-16 03:38:03 PM
1 votes:

coolio mack: I'm surprised Goodell didn't destroy the evidence like he did with the Patriot spy tapes.


Different teams, different rules.
2012-06-16 02:54:37 PM
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Orgasmatron138: The Saints kept a ledger. A FRIGGIN' LEDGER.

Idiots.


If you believe everything you hear on sports talk radio, I feel sorry for you.
2012-06-16 10:03:14 AM
1 votes:
The Saints kept a ledger. A FRIGGIN' LEDGER.

Idiots.
 
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