I wonder how many listings are from individuals who don't make their living doing ebay?

I dunno.. I still like eBay for buying vintage computer stuff. You can't really buy that on amazon.

Never really understood the "bid on something you'll never get because someone will outbid you by $1 at the last minute" appeal. But hey, they're successful and world dominating, so they can have fun without me.

How long until all the items are free, but cost $400/oz. to mail?

I've been boycotting ebay since they allowed a buyer to fark me. It's obviously taken a toll on them.

http://jalopnik.com/5918702/dealership -threatens-to-sue-guy-who-won-th eir-ebay-auction

eBay Motors auctions are 'non-binding'. Uh.... Yeah.

Paid link?

It reads as one big promo

I tried to buy something online one time, but as it turns out, that slot in my computer is not there to accept paper money.

It just kind of crinkled up and hung there.

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I tried to buy something online one time, but as it turns out, that slot in my computer is not there to accept paper money.

It just kind of crinkled up and hung there.

That slot is the cup holder, you press the button, and it slides open for you.

Seriously though, E-bay and Paypal (owned by E-bay) are just evil. I sold some stuff a year ago to help pay for my daughters medical expenses, and because I sold some stuff locally on craigslist list as well, they froze my funds. The vast majority of the money was from E-bay sales, but that didn't matter, they effectively locked my money up without cause, until I jumped through their hoops. And it wasn't about suspicious activity either, it was about following Paypal rules and procedures. Of course all the E-bay fees came out of my Paypal account just fine.

Thanks to the vastly overpaid Whitman ebay has killed the goose that laid the golden egg. The world is littered with arrogant retail operations that pissed off its customers.

BigBooper: Huck And Molly Ziegler: I tried to buy something online one time, but as it turns out, that slot in my computer is not there to accept paper money.

It just kind of crinkled up and hung there.

That slot is the cup holder, you press the button, and it slides open for you.

Seriously though, E-bay and Paypal (owned by E-bay) are just evil. I sold some stuff a year ago to help pay for my daughters medical expenses, and because I sold some stuff locally on craigslist list as well, they froze my funds. The vast majority of the money was from E-bay sales, but that didn't matter, they effectively locked my money up without cause, until I jumped through their hoops. And it wasn't about suspicious activity either, it was about following Paypal rules and procedures. Of course all the E-bay fees came out of my Paypal account just fine.

You're taking Paypal for items sold on craigslist? Of course it was about following rules and procedures.

craigslist is cash and carry.

Hey as long as I can can order piles of electronic goodies from China for $2 + free shipping I'll keep using ebay. It's just easier to pick from a selection of vendors than trust some website in China is still shipping.

Selling on eBay however died a long time ago for me. They rape you on auction fees and Paypal fees. The last item I sold the r-tard that bought it kept asking me questions the equivalent of "how do I turn on my tv" and wanted to return it. Thankfully he either figured out what a electrical plug is or was too stupid to send mail. If he had, I'd be out around $18 in fees already paid.

2and4: craigslist is cash and carry.

Some people want to pay via credit card, especially for higher dollar items. Who am I to argue if people really can't afford something, but want to put it on plastic; especially if they're willing to pay the Paypal fees.

Bucky Katt: People still use ebay?

Yes. Try reading the article.

swaxhog: Hey as long as I can can order piles of electronic goodies from China for $2 + free shipping I'll keep using ebay. It's just easier to pick from a selection of vendors than trust some website in China is still shipping.



I swear there will be one warehouse somewhere in China and it will ship anywhere in the world for free shipping. Every other retailer in the world will go out of business.

Therion: I gave up on ebay a couple of years ago when it became obvious they wanted to transform from the world's garage sale to overstock.com2

Agreed. That, and the fact that it's turned into the world's largest clearinghouse for Chinese knockoffs and Hong Kong silvers doesn't help (though Alibaba is giving them a run for their money in that department). There's still good stuff on there, but you have to sift through way more chaff than in the old days, and it's just not worth it anymore.

And let's not even start about PayPal.

I used to be able to make some money on ebay buying stuff locally at yard and estate sales and craigslist. Now I can't. too many fees.

I do use the paypal debit card though to pay all my bills that can be paid with a debit card. get some money back each month. Not a lot, but $10 is $10.

Also, I tried to Paypal at Home Depot and they claimed all they could do was take a paypal debit card.

Bucky Katt: People still use ebay?

This. Ebay was awesome when it was one big international yard sale. The professional Sellers selling stuff at our close to retail killed it for me. I can get the same prices on Amazon or Overstock, get real customer service, and don't have to use FeePal.

I used to find old motorcycles on swap shop and craigslist, strip them in my garage and sell the parts on ebay. I think the best find ever was an 87 Yamaha venture that I got for $150 on swap shop and ended up parting out for somewhere around $2,900. That was a while ago.

I ended up getting a retractable tonneau top for my Toyota Tacoma, rendering my bed cleats obsolete. I hadn't sold anything on ebay in a while and so I checked completed listings and figured I could get about $25-35 for them. After spending a half hour taking pictures, writing a description, choosing options, etc, it said my estimated listing insertion fees were $9.99 and that was before a final listing fee when it sold and any paypal fees. Yeah, fark Ebay sideways.

Sold them on a truck owners forum. Ebay can EABOD

I tried using ebay again for the first time in year back in May. I was lookingto get a vintage guitar case for my dad. After losing 3-4 auctionv last second by an incremental $0.10 or so I became convinced the game was rigged. Therems no way that anything but a bot could act that fast to a new price and update and resend. So I found a similar item that offered a buy it now price. Clicked and walked away. Online auctions suck. Why would I want to spend so much time on a shopping experience that i

I've never liked online casinos.

EBay does suck now. It's just a shiatty version of Amazon's affiliate network with the occasional auction thrown in now.

And people are still biatching about bid sniping? Learn to auto-bid properly.

bdub77: Ebay was great until their business model became 'rape your sellers' and 'make your website the most godawful thing on earth to navigate.' Then Amazon came along and ate them for breakfast.


Any eBay seller that has mainly fixed price sales of the same item, and hasn't move to Fulfilled by Amazon, is a idiot farknut, who's probably selling 1/5th of what they could with a 30% higher margin.

FooDog: I tried using ebay again for the first time in year back in May. I was lookingto get a vintage guitar case for my dad. After losing 3-4 auctionv last second by an incremental $0.10 or so I became convinced the game was rigged. Therems no way that anything but a bot could act that fast to a new price and update and resend. So I found a similar item that offered a buy it now price. Clicked and walked away. Online auctions suck. Why would I want to spend so much time on a shopping experience that i

Have you really not heard of eSnipe?

Ebay's net revenues up 29% year to year. If this is suck, give me some

pdieten: FooDog: I tried using ebay again for the first time in year back in May. I was lookingto get a vintage guitar case for my dad. After losing 3-4 auctionv last second by an incremental $0.10 or so I became convinced the game was rigged. Therems no way that anything but a bot could act that fast to a new price and update and resend. So I found a similar item that offered a buy it now price. Clicked and walked away. Online auctions suck. Why would I want to spend so much time on a shopping experience that i

Have you really not heard of eSnipe?

Nopes. Like I stated earlier, this was the first time in years that I used ebay. Last time was I bought anything from ebay before was back in '02 or '03.

Ebay is still ok for the occasional odd item. I do a lot of hobby purchases there and found a rim for my minivan when all the local auto salvage yards either wanted insane prices or didn't have a wheel....for a 12 year old minivan.
Wheel is on my porch for 40$ plus 12$ shipping, Much better than the $80 to $150 range the locals were wanting and btw, fark YOU Jordan Auto Parts of central West Virginia.

I stopped buying and selling on eBay a while back. I'm strictly a Craigslist guy now.

For the poster above who uses PayPal for Craigslist - check out Square. www.squareup.com. Free reader for your smartphone and only 2.75% transaction fee. Cheaper than Paypal and you can take any credit card.

StopLurkListen: Never really understood the "bid on something you'll never get because someone will outbid you by $1 at the last minute" appeal.

This. I've always been puzzled by eBay's insistence that an auction should end at a rigidly scheduled time. It seems to me that it'd be better for everyone involved if their auctions ended after a set time THEN five or ten minutes after the last bid.

I've had an eBay account since 1998, used to buy all sorts of things but now the only thing I ever use it for is really old or obscure stuff you can't get anywhere else. Most of the listings now are overpriced crap or scams. Even the old stuff is getting harder to get because of idiots putting ridiculous prices on them. No sir, I'm not going to pay you $4000 for an ISA video card.

Bucky Katt: People still use ebay?

Yes. I bought a new sear spring for my Smith & Wesson on Friday.

Fixed price/free shipping

FooDog: pdieten: FooDog: I tried using ebay again for the first time in year back in May. I was lookingto get a vintage guitar case for my dad. After losing 3-4 auctionv last second by an incremental $0.10 or so I became convinced the game was rigged. Therems no way that anything but a bot could act that fast to a new price and update and resend. So I found a similar item that offered a buy it now price. Clicked and walked away. Online auctions suck. Why would I want to spend so much time on a shopping experience that i

Have you really not heard of eSnipe?

Nopes. Like I stated earlier, this was the first time in years that I used ebay. Last time was I bought anything from ebay before was back in '02 or '03.

eSnipe (there are others like it) is a bot that lets people set a maximum bid but the bid isn't placed until it's too late for anyone else to react to it. The guy who outbid you was willing to pay more than you were, but he just didn't tell you or eBay until it was too late. You got sandbagged.

And I just got a nice deal on a Nikon DSLR and a lens on eBay (though it was a BIN; auctions often end in higher bids than some sellers' BIN prices and I'm not always willing to take the risk of getting a better deal in an auction.)

It's too bad that the eBay of 2012 isn't like the eBay of 1999, but frankly it was a bit inevitable. Most of the time transactions could be executed in a way that made both parties happy, but there was always enough miscommunication, misunderstanding and general jackassery that eBay and PayPal felt compelled to step in and force sellers to act like professionals; and the end result of that brought us to where we are today. It's the same reason government entities feel compelled to issue regulations - it's always a few miscreants spoiling things for the rest of us.

The auctions weren't anything like auctions, anyway. It was mostly "what script are you using to bid at the last nanosecond."

Also the sellers still inexplicably suck. Even though the price is set and I paid immediately, the item can still dick around in your warehouse for weeks before you email me and acknowledge my existence, and eventually send a broken item, tell me there are no refunds, at which point I have to wait weeks to file a claim, wait weeks for someone at paypal to notice I've failed a claim, wait weeks for them to process it, then maybe get my money back after waiting weeks for you to acknowledge you received your returned broken junk I didn't need anyway.

Dancin_In_Anson: teto85: You realize those Ray-Bans are probably Malaysian knock offs.

Came in original packaging from a shop in Denver and they work. I'm good.

Original packaging doesn't mean dick all of that can be counterfeit very easily.

I buy music (yes, hard copies) and car parts, also sell plenty of used musical instruments and memorabilia items. Anything that becomes too popular loses its initial appeals. The ebay final value fees are TOO FARKING MUCH but as a buyer I still love Ebay (there is definitely a lot less to pick from but not bare)

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