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(Panama City News Herald)   Man stands his ground, holds six kids ages 4 to 16 at gunpoint for turning their ATV around in his driveway. Bonus: Makes oldest kid call mom to pick them up   (newsherald.com) divider line 345
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2012-06-15 04:22:34 PM
If it wasn't for that stand your ground law he would be in jail!
 
2012-06-15 04:23:01 PM

Police found several other guns in the house.

This is important because it has nothing to do with the story.


Parents of the victims declined to comment Thursday


And if they are smart, they'll keep quite and not press charges.
They could do a better job of parenting.
They should make the kids appologize, and then do his yard work.
 
2012-06-15 04:23:03 PM

HotWingConspiracy: highendmighty: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

Like any tool, they serve a purpose. Just don't let any tool have them.

But that violates freedoms and such.


I know, you're trotally right. But violent felons and crazy people are already prohibited to own firearms. I expect, by the time the trial is over, he will be considered one or both.
 
2012-06-15 04:24:02 PM
Not at all street legal.
Hope the mom gets charged.
 
2012-06-15 04:24:07 PM
images.onset.freedom.com

5'5" Sounds like he may have a bit of the Napoleon Complex. That or batshiat crazy.
 
2012-06-15 04:24:50 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: What the hell were six kids doing on one ATV at once?


not being parented by the PWT shait heels that shat them out.
 
2012-06-15 04:25:17 PM
I guarantee you that one of those little farkers had some Skittles. Poor old man was probably scared for his life.
 
2012-06-15 04:25:29 PM

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

You did not address my question.


It was a false choice, there is no correct answer. And also, guns r cool.
 
2012-06-15 04:25:30 PM
If the kids had gun, this wouldn't be a problem.
 
2012-06-15 04:25:42 PM
This makes us gun owners look bad - especially since they only turned around in his driveway. Kids can and have played in my driveway - and I have no issue with this (have steep driveway - they like to ride their skateboards down it)...just stay away from my cars. However - some neighborhood kids have golf carts and they tend to drive through my yard rutting it all up....i will admit that I've thought abuot shooting them for that. That pisses me off to no end. Perhaps just a pellet gun shot to the ass to get their attention.

Have made a bold claim that if i see them doing it again, i'm going to rut up their parents yard using my vehicle of choice to get even. Don't put it past me. Would be especially amusing since their dad seems quite anal about how their yard looks.
 
2012-06-15 04:26:23 PM
Hey everyone, before we start judging this guy for holding six children hostage, we should really find out if these kids were black or regular color. Also they may have an ice tea with them or possible some candy. I don't want to judge before all the facts are in evidence.
 
2012-06-15 04:26:27 PM

doglover: Point your (uncocked) glock


You know how I know you aren't familiar with firearms?
 
2012-06-15 04:26:43 PM
Everybody is so quick to crucify here. This story seems really one sided. How much you want to bet those kids were trolling, turning around in his driveway like clockwork. Not gentle turnarounds either, but the kind that leave rubber.

I hope you guys never get the sort of real life troll that likes to abuse his rights while staying completely on the side of the law, because frankly the police isn't going to see this as much more than a petty dispute and leave you to resolve it.

The fact that the other guy also reported the issue indicates that there's more to the story than is being reported here.
 
2012-06-15 04:26:46 PM
BurnShrike [TotalFark] 2012-06-15 10:51:32 AM

This guy sounds like 99.9% of white male Farkers I've seen in the politics tab.

FTFY
 
2012-06-15 04:27:21 PM

MythDragon: If the kids had gun, this wouldn't be a problem.


Exactly. Time to scale back the ownership/carry age.

It's a no-brainer considering how safe guns make us. Kids need to be safe, right?
 
2012-06-15 04:28:11 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

You did not address my question.

It was a false choice, there is no correct answer. And also, guns r cool.


Are you saying that your reduced intelligence produces neither pain no pleasure?
 
2012-06-15 04:28:39 PM

JMel: However - some neighborhood kids have golf carts and they tend to drive through my yard rutting it all up....i will admit that I've thought abuot shooting them for that. That pisses me off to no end. Perhaps just a pellet gun shot to the ass to get their attention.


Or, you could just put up a fence.
 
2012-06-15 04:29:27 PM
Ok, genius, you lose your mind completely and threaten a bunch of kids. Now, if the 4 year old got up and was flailing around like little scared kids do sometimes, and you shoot the kid, then what? Shoot the rest and claim self defense?

Jeebus.
 
2012-06-15 04:29:32 PM

PlNG: Everybody is so quick to crucify here. This story seems really one sided. How much you want to bet those kids were trolling, turning around in his driveway like clockwork. Not gentle turnarounds either, but the kind that leave rubber.


Such behaviour, even if occurring, does not create justification for use of deadly force.
 
2012-06-15 04:31:08 PM

PlNG: Everybody is so quick to crucify here. This story seems really one sided. How much you want to bet those kids were trolling, turning around in his driveway like clockwork. Not gentle turnarounds either, but the kind that leave rubber.

I hope you guys never get the sort of real life troll that likes to abuse his rights while staying completely on the side of the law, because frankly the police isn't going to see this as much more than a petty dispute and leave you to resolve it.

The fact that the other guy also reported the issue indicates that there's more to the story than is being reported here.


4/10. Needs more Nugent and a "kids today..."
 
2012-06-15 04:31:18 PM

mikaloyd: I for one welcome our unsupervised child bus driver overlords


"Unsupervised"? The oldest was 16; that's old enough for him to watch the younger ones for a couple of hours.
 
2012-06-15 04:32:18 PM

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

You did not address my question.

It was a false choice, there is no correct answer. And also, guns r cool.

Are you saying that your reduced intelligence produces neither pain no pleasure?


I believe the answer he's looking for is "Mu."
 
2012-06-15 04:32:36 PM
Gramps is off his meds again.
 
2012-06-15 04:33:26 PM

mr_a: I am a gun-owner, a lover of all kinds of target shooting, an NRA member, a 2nd amendment supporter, etc etc etc...No one hates irresponsible use of firearms more than people who like guns.


QFT

/ All of the above with the exception of being an NRA member.
 
2012-06-15 04:33:52 PM

offmymeds: Gramps is off his meds again.


It appears that makes two of you then.
 
2012-06-15 04:34:07 PM
Stay off his lawn driveway...
 
2012-06-15 04:34:57 PM

PlNG: Everybody is so quick to crucify here. This story seems really one sided. How much you want to bet those kids were trolling, turning around in his driveway like clockwork. Not gentle turnarounds either, but the kind that leave rubber.


So kids burning rubber on my driveway is a good enough reason to threaten a four to sixteen year old with a gun? Good to know.

Can't think of many reasons to justify his actions... unless, you know, he felt threatened.
 
2012-06-15 04:35:06 PM

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

You did not address my question.

It was a false choice, there is no correct answer. And also, guns r cool.

Are you saying that your reduced intelligence produces neither pain no pleasure?


Again, this is a poorly crafted question. The premise needs work.

Someone that is dumb would be like...a purist of some sort. A purist that thinks anyone that disagrees with them must be stupid. That would be really dumb.
 
2012-06-15 04:36:00 PM
4 year old children (at least one anyway) were present. The driver was a 16 year old male. Have you ever met a 16 year old male (in particular one with access to an ATV in a rural area) who wasn't a prick? I tend to side with the folks who say there is more to this story then we're being told.

I have a friend in Ohio with a 3/4 mile long gravel driveway who has had real trouble with moto kids and ATV drivers messing around on his property. It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt and some parent sues you.
 
2012-06-15 04:36:11 PM

gweilo8888: If only there were some method of making it so the general public couldn't walk into a store and buy a lethal weapon to point at a four year old...


There is. Amend the constitution. But you were probably looking for an easy way.
 
2012-06-15 04:36:45 PM

mr_a: I am a gun-owner, a lover of all kinds of target shooting, an NRA member, a 2nd amendment supporter, etc etc etc.

There is NO REASON on earth why you should be pointing a weapon at a 4 year-old. None.

His weapons should be confiscated and he should be banned from ever owning a weapon of any sort again. He has demonstrated quite clearly he is incapable of safely handling a weapon.

And I believe most NRA members would agree with me. No one hates irresponsible use of firearms more than people who like guns.



Agreed.

Exception:

If it's a 4 year old Joffrey Baratheon......little f*cker is pure evil.
 
2012-06-15 04:36:59 PM
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2012-06-15 04:37:12 PM
Sure, Take the little punks' side.
The story doesn't tell what crimes could have been committed had he not defended his home in a timely fashion.
 
2012-06-15 04:37:15 PM

PlNG: The fact that the other guy also reported the issue indicates that there's more to the story than is being reported here.


Yeah, like that he is nuts. Anyone who thinks they are legally and morally in the right to threaten toddlers with a gun is also the type who would expect the police to then come arrest the kids for turning in his driveway.
 
2012-06-15 04:37:17 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct consequence of your mental incompetence, or do your intellectual deficiencies instead produce a continuous state of euphoria?

Guns r cool man

You did not address my question.

It was a false choice, there is no correct answer. And also, guns r cool.

Are you saying that your reduced intelligence produces neither pain no pleasure?

Again, this is a poorly crafted question. The premise needs work.

Someone that is dumb would be like...a purist of some sort. A purist that thinks anyone that disagrees with them must be stupid. That would be really dumb.


The right response would be "Have you stopped shooting kids for fun? Yes or no?".
 
2012-06-15 04:37:18 PM

HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.


once they kill each other off it will.

See, when you interfere with evolution with gun control laws it just lets critters like these proliferate.

We just need to let nature take its natural course
 
2012-06-15 04:39:00 PM

Vespizzari: Have you ever met a 16 year old male (in particular one with access to an ATV in a rural area) who wasn't a prick?


All the time. I've yet to met a gun toting redneck that wasn't a moron and a pants shiatting coward though.
 
2012-06-15 04:39:46 PM

Rev.K: The My Little Pony Killer: What the hell were six kids doing on one ATV at once?


Playing India
 
2012-06-15 04:39:49 PM

dittybopper: doglover: Point your (uncocked) glock

You know how I know you aren't familiar with firearms?


+1

"Uncocked Glock" Makes me laugh for several different reasons.
 
2012-06-15 04:39:49 PM

Vespizzari: 4 year old children (at least one anyway) were present. The driver was a 16 year old male. Have you ever met a 16 year old male (in particular one with access to an ATV in a rural area) who wasn't a prick? I tend to side with the folks who say there is more to this story then we're being told.


I have no doubt. However, I'd like to know what detail you think we could possibly be missing that could justify this:

Fulcher cocked the hammer on the revolver and pointed the gun at the driver's head and told him he'd be the "first to go." He kept his finger on the trigger.
 
2012-06-15 04:40:10 PM
The Last Line of TFA: Parents of the victims declined to comment Thursday.

Also known as "our kids were being dicks. We''d like to thank the old codger for showing heroic restraint but it might not sound good so say that so we won't say anything."
 
2012-06-15 04:40:15 PM

PlNG: Everybody is so quick to crucify here. This story seems really one sided. How much you want to bet those kids were trolling, turning around in his driveway like clockwork. Not gentle turnarounds either, but the kind that leave rubber.

I hope you guys never get the sort of real life troll that likes to abuse his rights while staying completely on the side of the law, because frankly the police isn't going to see this as much more than a petty dispute and leave you to resolve it.

The fact that the other guy also reported the issue indicates that there's more to the story than is being reported here.


9/10

You're still going on my ignore list moron.
 
2012-06-15 04:40:21 PM

tomWright: HotWingConspiracy: This is another one of those responsible gun owners I head so much about. More people like this should own deadly weapons, it makes us all safer.

once they kill each other off it will.

See, when you interfere with evolution with gun control laws it just lets critters like these proliferate.

We just need to let nature take its natural course


Which is exactly what happened with the Crips and Bloods, forcing them to come to a truce.
 
2012-06-15 04:40:34 PM

doubled99: Sure, Take the little punks' side.
The story doesn't tell what crimes could have been committed had he not defended his home in a timely fashion.


Yeah, when Tom Cruise stops future crime, he's a farking hero.
When the average cracker in the swamp does it, sudenly he's a serial child predator.
 
2012-06-15 04:40:41 PM

Rev.K: The My Little Pony Killer: What the hell were six kids doing on one ATV at once?

This.


Yep @ 8:30; but hey, they were praying right?
 
2012-06-15 04:41:06 PM

doubled99: Sure, Take the little punks' side.
The story doesn't tell what crimes could have been committed had he not defended his home in a timely fashion.


I hear that one of the kids had chalk and was going to deface the driveway. another one might have picked a flower as well, or stole some of his water from a garden hose...

MONSTERS!
 
2012-06-15 04:41:42 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: What the hell were six kids doing on one ATV at once?


Maybe they're Indian.
 
2012-06-15 04:42:47 PM
If those kids were armed too, they could have stood their ground, and there would be one less cranky old asshole in that town!

But seriously, what a farking dick.
 
2012-06-15 04:42:49 PM
This is why we can't have nice people.
 
2012-06-15 04:42:56 PM

cretinbob: The My Little Pony Killer: cretinbob: You know how I can tell you live in a city?

... besides looking at my profile, smartass?

That's a wagon with a motor.

Nope, that's an ATV


Nope, that's a gator and a mule - which are both much more specialized than a traditional 4-wheeler. Is a Jeep an ATV? Hoe about an amphibious vehicle? I know you hillbillies like all your toys, but everyone thinks of a 4-wheeler when they hear "ATV". I could easily drive safely around with 20 people in my car if I owned a stretch limo, but I wouldn't just call it a "car."
 
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