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(Politico)   Military contractors: If you don't cancel the defense budget cuts, we'll have to send out hundreds of thousands of pink slips just before Election Day. Just sayin'   (politico.com) divider line 273
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2012-06-14 10:24:44 PM
"I've been told by some of our major employers that layoff notices are going to come before the election," said Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), a member of the Armed Services Committee and a vocal critic of the automatic cuts. "It's dangerous and irresponsible for Congress to play with this."

Under sequestration, New Hampshire could lose more than 3,000 full-time jobs during the next fiscal year, according to a study by George Mason University's Center for Regional Analysis. Across the country, more than 1 million jobs would be at stake.


Where the f*ck do these people think budget savings come from? Tomorrow-morrow land?

Jesus f*cking Christ... Even if you cut the programs to the poor you hate so much, you'll be firing just as many, if not more people.

It's like they have absolutely no sense of the planet we live on.
 
2012-06-14 10:52:32 PM
Anyone else think there is one competent member of the Republican Party that understood the dates or just dumb luck? I think dumb luck simply because I have heard most of them speak and the sane ones normally do not get much say in policy.
 
2012-06-14 10:58:26 PM

eurotrader: Anyone else think there is one competent member of the Republican Party that understood the dates or just dumb luck? I think dumb luck simply because I have heard most of them speak and the sane ones normally do not get much say in policy.


I was thinking the same thing, but only for a second. They don't strike me as that clever. Well... it would be a pretty dirty campaign trick and they are good at that. Hmmmm...

I think we can agree that they never intended to let the automatic cuts actually happen. Considering Obama has caved to almost all of their demands, it was a wise move on their part. These cuts aren't going to happen and we all know it. They'll find a way. The spice must flow.
 
2012-06-14 11:41:47 PM
Nice job you have there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.
 
2012-06-14 11:48:02 PM
Wow. They Defense Industry is holding a gun to the election's head.
 
2012-06-14 11:59:33 PM
And?
 
2012-06-15 12:02:54 AM

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: Anyone else think there is one competent member of the Republican Party that understood the dates or just dumb luck? I think dumb luck simply because I have heard most of them speak and the sane ones normally do not get much say in policy.

I was thinking the same thing, but only for a second. They don't strike me as that clever. Well... it would be a pretty dirty campaign trick and they are good at that. Hmmmm...

I think we can agree that they never intended to let the automatic cuts actually happen. Considering Obama has caved to almost all of their demands, it was a wise move on their part. These cuts aren't going to happen and we all know it. They'll find a way. The spice must flow.


When is this administration going to learn that Fartbama is a killing word. Time to use it on their Harkonnen asses.
 
2012-06-15 12:09:32 AM

NewportBarGuy: "I've been told by some of our major employers that layoff notices are going to come before the election," said Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), a member of the Armed Services Committee and a vocal critic of the automatic cuts. "It's dangerous and irresponsible for Congress to play with this."

Under sequestration, New Hampshire could lose more than 3,000 full-time jobs during the next fiscal year, according to a study by George Mason University's Center for Regional Analysis. Across the country, more than 1 million jobs would be at stake.


Where the f*ck do these people think budget savings come from? Tomorrow-morrow land?

Jesus f*cking Christ... Even if you cut the programs to the poor you hate so much, you'll be firing just as many, if not more people.

It's like they have absolutely no sense of the planet we live on.


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on the other hand, other than a bunch of out of work ex-military with a lot of guns, the unemployment numbers wont show up until after the election ...
 
2012-06-15 12:11:09 AM
Isn't that more a "union" tactic?

"Nice representative democracy you have here. Be a real shame if sumptin' should... happen to it."
 
2012-06-15 12:39:55 AM

Nadie_AZ: Wow. They Defense Industry is holding a gun to the election's head.


He warned us
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2012-06-15 12:41:15 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Nadie_AZ: Wow. They Defense Industry is holding a gun to the election's head.

He warned us
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RINO!
 
2012-06-15 12:43:04 AM

FirstNationalBastard: RINO!


Heh... no shiat
 
2012-06-15 01:02:13 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: FirstNationalBastard: RINO!

Heh... no shiat


I hate manure.

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2012-06-15 01:11:17 AM
All of these people threatening hissy fits and war can just go piss up a rope. Your budget is bloated. We could cut it clean in half and still be spending more on defense than any other country in the world. Let us start taking care of the homefront, okay boys?

/is that too much to ask?
//to protect the country that you were sworn to protect?
//Bueller?
 
2012-06-15 01:29:16 AM
I thought that if jobs were lost, then those workers would simply go to new sectors and new industries.

Or is that only auto workers who can magically morph?

Which is it, kids?
 
2012-06-15 01:37:53 AM
I work for the military-industrial complex, so i am getting a kick, etc.

/I try to guard against undue influence
 
2012-06-15 01:41:08 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: All of these people threatening hissy fits and war can just go piss up a rope. Your budget is bloated. We could cut it clean in half and still be spending more on defense than any other country in the world. Let us start taking care of the homefront, okay boys?


So you advocate shifting money from defense to social programs?
 
2012-06-15 01:47:24 AM

Asa Phelps: The My Little Pony Killer: All of these people threatening hissy fits and war can just go piss up a rope. Your budget is bloated. We could cut it clean in half and still be spending more on defense than any other country in the world. Let us start taking care of the homefront, okay boys?

So you advocate shifting money from defense to social programs?


That would be what my post was implying.
 
2012-06-15 02:10:03 AM

hubiestubert: I thought that if jobs were lost, then those workers would simply go to new sectors and new industries.

Or is that only auto workers who can magically morph?

Which is it, kids?


Of course it isn't just auto workers. The unemployed will simply "find" new jobs when you cut off their benefits, too. Jobs that allow them to care for their families. In the same Rock Candy Mountain where they do "welfare reform".

But defense cuts? No, those will result in intolerable financial losses to the community AND instantly open our borders to all the columns of Al Queda tanks and illegals with voter ID cards and anchor babies.
 
2012-06-15 02:24:59 AM
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2012-06-15 02:30:58 AM
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2012-06-15 02:32:02 AM
Good. We could defend this country just fine on $50 billion per year. The rest of it is wasted money; a drain on the economy. The best thing for the economy would be to dump hundreds of thousands of people out of their military and contractor jobs. In 1946 we laid off MILLIONS and the economy boomed.
 
2012-06-15 02:36:52 AM
He's lying! The gub'ment doesn't create jobs!
 
2012-06-15 02:37:19 AM
Hey, I want some hostages, too. Anybody know where I can get some?
 
2012-06-15 02:41:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if we just shifted a percentage of the money we spent on the defense budget to social programs, infrastructure, education or alternative energy, most of these guys that would be laid off would have no problems using their intellect to get a job.
 
2012-06-15 02:42:20 AM

ongbok: I'm pretty sure if we just shifted a percentage of the money we spent on the defense budget to social programs, infrastructure, education or alternative energy, most of these guys that would be laid off would have no problems using their intellect to get a job.


Blow shiat up!
 
2012-06-15 02:43:59 AM
We'll just cut education, infrastructure and veteran's benefits to substitute like always.
 
2012-06-15 02:46:17 AM
If I'm Obama, I discharge anyone who does this on the grounds that it's dangerous to reduce forces so abruptly. They wanna play hardball, fark 'em. Commander-in-chief, how does it work?

That said, the Democrats were once again fools to trust the GOP.

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2012-06-15 02:47:49 AM
It's only a guess, but do you suppose the senior management at many, indeed most, of these military contractors lean 'way over to the right? Do you suppose they might reflexively and continuously complain about the "tax and spend" Democrats, or that "government is too big"? But try to take away the feed from their own trough and watch what happens! They do what they must, and what they must is blackmail Washington to keep it coming! The take-home from this is that these arms dealers fully expect us voters to be too dumb to figure out what is happening and reject the blackmail. Are they right?

fusillade762: Hey, I want some hostages, too. Anybody know where I can get some?


Yeah. It's us.
 
2012-06-15 02:48:15 AM
Realistically, the conventional military capability of the United States is one the few industries we by law can't export to low wage countries. The jobs that launch our warships, submarines and fighter jets aren't moving to China. Just about everything else manufacturing related might be (though, per my work in the semiconductor industry, it's not actually China--which is increasingly "high" wages--it's Viet Nam, the Philippines and Malaysia).
 
2012-06-15 02:55:17 AM
I could see this turning out to be a good thing. Perhaps this will lead to us spending more on building ourselves up as opposed to spending more on tearing others down (which is what we seem to have been doing for quite some time).
 
2012-06-15 02:57:05 AM

This About That: It's only a guess, but do you suppose the senior management at many, indeed most, of these military contractors lean 'way over to the right? Do you suppose they might reflexively and continuously complain about the "tax and spend" Democrats, or that "government is too big"? But try to take away the feed from their own trough and watch what happens! They do what they must, and what they must is blackmail Washington to keep it coming! The take-home from this is that these arms dealers fully expect us voters to be too dumb to figure out what is happening and reject the blackmail. Are they right?


Blackwater/Xe/Academi contributes almost exclusively to Republicans.

So when the shiat hits the fan here guess who's going to have their own private army to fend off the starving, rioting hordes?
 
2012-06-15 02:58:43 AM
Oh sure. We can't find the money to help unwed mothers get formula for their babbys, yet we always seem to have tons of cash laying around for Pentagon projects like stealth toilets or to shovel into the Swiss bank accounts of Afghani opium drug lords.
 
2012-06-15 02:59:38 AM
Extortion. It's the American Way.
 
2012-06-15 03:09:21 AM

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: Anyone else think there is one competent member of the Republican Party that understood the dates or just dumb luck? I think dumb luck simply because I have heard most of them speak and the sane ones normally do not get much say in policy.

I was thinking the same thing, but only for a second. They don't strike me as that clever. Well... it would be a pretty dirty campaign trick and they are good at that. Hmmmm...

I think we can agree that they never intended to let the automatic cuts actually happen. Considering Obama has caved to almost all of their demands, it was a wise move on their part. These cuts aren't going to happen and we all know it. They'll find a way. The spice must flow.


I'm thinking they knew it the whole time: the cuts will continue, there will be layoffs just before the election, and they'll get to lay the blame on Obama.

It's all-win for them and -if they win in November- they can keep the cuts and continue to blame Obama for the lost jobs with no obligations.

/This is old-school Republican hardball tactics.
 
2012-06-15 03:12:27 AM
The PSYOPS has begun.

Enjoy your stay, citizen.
 
2012-06-15 03:14:50 AM

DrPainMD: In 1946 we laid off MILLIONS and the economy boomed.



Except back then they had social programs to help all the vets go to school, get jobs, and cheap loans to start businesses and buy homes.

Today? Vets get meds to take and have to fight off suicidal thoughts sitting on disability.
 
2012-06-15 03:15:38 AM
Military Contracts are the biggest entitlement programs in the history of the world.
And you know how evil entitlement programs are...
 
2012-06-15 03:16:42 AM

Basij: The jobs



This is impossible. I was told by all the conservatives that government does NOT in fact, create jobs.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/12/our-government-doesnt-creat e -jobs-it-kills-them/

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/24/why-government-doesnt-create - j

/feels dirty just having to search for those links
 
2012-06-15 03:17:43 AM

TV's Vinnie: to shovel into the Swiss bank accounts of Afghani opium drug lords.



It's unfortunate but the Karzai family is the only thing keeping the political system together.
 
2012-06-15 03:46:15 AM
Wow. Here's the thing people...this isn't a mercenary army we're talking about, it's all support staff. Did you RTFA or did you knee-jerk respond?
 
2012-06-15 03:53:01 AM

X_Legend: Wow. Here's the thing people...this isn't a mercenary army we're talking about, it's all support staff. Did you RTFA or did you knee-jerk respond?


So...extortion?
 
2012-06-15 03:53:42 AM
Silly military, thinking Congress was still capable of agreeing on anything bigger than a post-office renaming. Even if it wasn't just knee-jerk going after Obama, they'd still be squabbling too much to get anything done. And the bigger the issue, the bigger the squabbling.
 
2012-06-15 04:00:21 AM

intelligent comment below: TV's Vinnie: to shovel into the Swiss bank accounts of Afghani opium drug lords.


It's unfortunate but the Karzai family is the only thing keeping the political system together.


WHAT political system? It's just a giant ongoing shakedown.
 
2012-06-15 04:46:05 AM
Traitors.

There, I said it.
 
2012-06-15 05:03:11 AM

TV's Vinnie: WHAT political system? It's just a giant ongoing shakedown.



That's progress for Afghanistan. The only instability is the Taliban and AQ from Pakistan. The country has never seen peace like this, sure it's because America is paying off tribal leaders to not shoot each other but peace is peace.
 
2012-06-15 05:07:40 AM

NewportBarGuy: "I've been told by some of our major employers that layoff notices are going to come before the election," said Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), a member of the Armed Services Committee and a vocal critic of the automatic cuts. "It's dangerous and irresponsible for Congress to play with this."

Under sequestration, New Hampshire could lose more than 3,000 full-time jobs during the next fiscal year, according to a study by George Mason University's Center for Regional Analysis. Across the country, more than 1 million jobs would be at stake.


Where the f*ck do these people think budget savings come from? Tomorrow-morrow land?

Jesus f*cking Christ... Even if you cut the programs to the poor you hate so much, you'll be firing just as many, if not more people.

It's like they have absolutely no sense of the planet we live on.


The 1 million people that help the poor and would lose their jobs don't have a 24/7 propaganda network to champion their cause prior to the election.
 
2012-06-15 05:10:42 AM

intelligent comment below: This is impossible. I was told by all the conservatives that government does NOT in fact, create jobs.


Well they can't, they can only destroy jobs, which is what they're doing here.
 
2012-06-15 05:13:27 AM

Wyalt Derp: intelligent comment below: This is impossible. I was told by all the conservatives that government does NOT in fact, create jobs.

Well they can't, they can only destroy jobs, which is what they're doing here.


How can government jobs exist in the first place if government does not create jobs? How can you destroy a job that cannot possibly exist? I'm so confused here.
 
2012-06-15 05:18:09 AM
"the defense cuts, which would reduce the Pentagon budget by more than $50 billion, or 10 percent, each year for the next decade."

You know someone, somewhere has read that as 10% x 10 years = 100% and is furiously banging out the next FW:FW:FW email ranting about how Obama wants to eliminate the US military entirely.
 
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