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(Newser)   The Boy Scouts of America has two decades' worth of documents on 1,200 suspected child molesters in the organization-and the long-secret files are set to go public   (newser.com) divider line 168
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2012-06-14 09:30:17 PM
Well, praise Jebus they didn't let teh homogays in the Boy Scouts! Then the organization would have really went downhill!
 
2012-06-14 09:35:13 PM
Two decades? The FOUNDER of the Boy Scouts created the damn thing so that mono-oriented people of the penile persuation could very q
 
2012-06-14 09:36:04 PM
Sorry, I got all excited and hit the SUBMIT key.

Like I was saying mono-oriented people of the penile persuation could very q
 
2012-06-14 09:36:08 PM
Somehow this is Obama's fault
 
2012-06-14 10:01:09 PM
Wait you mean Powerbottom, Meatwood Derby, Starting a Fire - In Your Pants, and Keep It Zipped Or You're Worm Food weren't legitimate badges?

YOU LIED TO ME SCOUTMASTER MCGINNIS!
 
2012-06-14 10:49:18 PM
My old scoutmaster went to jail for molesting scouts. No idea if the sentence is up yet or not.
 
2012-06-14 11:01:58 PM
Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?
 
2012-06-14 11:15:15 PM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


I'm not sure, but I just inherently don't trust a man that likes kids under any circumstances

/my hero
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2012-06-14 11:39:40 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?

I'm not sure, but I just inherently don't trust a man that likes kids under any circumstances

/my hero
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Basically this.


I like Adam Carolla's soulution:

"Alright eveyone, who wants to take the boys camping this weekend?"

Tom: Me! I'll do it.

Harry: I'd rather stick a fork in my eye and twist.

"Harry, you're taking the kids. Tom, you're outta the scouts."
 
2012-06-14 11:49:30 PM

Just another example of the basic truth that whether you are an individual or an organization if you are very concerned about and sweatily denouncing homo sex you are probably wrist-deep in homo sex. Actual straight people are primarily having so much fun thinking about and doing hetero sex that there is very little time to think about a type of sexual interaction that does not interest them.

/I'm looking at you Santorum
//WE NEED A BABY-WIPE OVER HERE


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2012-06-15 12:27:53 AM
I never knew this was a documentary

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2012-06-15 12:53:35 AM
Whew! Only 2 decades!
 
2012-06-15 01:07:58 AM

RussianPooper: Whew! Only 2 decades!


So...you left the BSA in '91?
 
2012-06-15 01:27:34 AM
I'm sure this won't cause any problems for the guys who were "suspected" but found innocent
 
2012-06-15 01:48:34 AM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


The second one. Obviously.
 
2012-06-15 01:49:38 AM
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Go on...
 
2012-06-15 01:55:45 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Well, praise Jebus they didn't let teh homogays in the Boy Scouts! Then the organization would have really went downhill!


Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?

If, for example, your answer is "men who like boys", shouldn't that be taken as de facto evidence that the Boy Scouts' policy of keeping gays out has some basis, from their point of view? That this is 20 years worth of evidence that gays they've allowed in to the Scouts* have been detrimental to the well-being of the boys in their care, and the organization in general?

Note that I am not equating that to be equivalent to the population of gay men as a whole -- only that from their select vantage, this document release might grant more merit to the obstinacy against opening up the rolls.
 
2012-06-15 01:55:53 AM
i was a boy scout...our leaders were dodgy looking guys. i never saw or heard of anything improper. in time, i was also a leader...i quit cause i hated the other leader who was a cop. he probly did all kinds of sick shiat after i was gone.
 
2012-06-15 01:57:13 AM
Can we just admit that any organization in any society that has groups of young boys being taught by adult males is probably going attract pedophIles and that it is in the organizations best interst to tell people when it happens?
 
2012-06-15 02:00:04 AM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


I know this is FARK, but that's not accurate, and I don't find it terribly funny.

Kids could use a lot more male teachers in elementary and middle school and elsewhere.
 
2012-06-15 02:00:35 AM
B. S. of America is, of course, above board.
 
2012-06-15 02:01:01 AM

gerrymander: Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?


They're pedophiles. They're attracted to children. That's their orientation.

They don't HAVE a sexual orientation towards adults. That's the entire problem.
 
2012-06-15 02:03:46 AM

Genevieve Marie: gerrymander: Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?

They're pedophiles. They're attracted to children. That's their orientation.

They don't HAVE a sexual orientation towards adults. That's the entire problem.


pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.
 
2012-06-15 02:04:03 AM
I got kicked out of the boy scouts for eating too many brownies.
 
2012-06-15 02:05:50 AM

talan123: Can we just admit that any organization in any society that has groups of young boys being taught by adult males is probably going attract pedophIles and that it is in the organizations best interst to tell people when it happens?


Or adult females, for that matter. They're just more likely to be school teachers than boy scout leaders.
 
2012-06-15 02:06:51 AM

Happy Hours: Genevieve Marie: gerrymander: Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?

They're pedophiles. They're attracted to children. That's their orientation.

They don't HAVE a sexual orientation towards adults. That's the entire problem.

pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.


Yes actually, it is. I'm going to be lazy and copy and paste the relevant lines from the wikipedia page on pedophilia, but you're welcome to look at their sources for the statement and all of the other supporting research:

"Pedophilia can be described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation because it emerges prior or during puberty, and because it is stable over time.[51] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses.[52]"


"Pedophilia can be described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation because it emerges prior or during puberty, and because it is stable over time.[51] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses.[52]"
 
2012-06-15 02:09:57 AM

RoyBatty: I know this is FARK, but that's not accurate, and I don't find it terribly funny.

Kids could use a lot more male teachers in elementary and middle school and elsewhere.


I agree. But I also know it's a terribly stressful lifestyle as well. To be worried all the time that somebody might get an inkling of an idea that there might be the slightest appearance of possible impropriety wears on you. All it takes is an accusation, however unfounded it may be, however much evidence may be in your favor, and your life is irrecoverably destroyed.
 
2012-06-15 02:12:21 AM

Porous Horace: I got kicked out of the boy scouts for eating too many brownies.


www.kvcoach.com

I get the double entendre. You still sound fat.
 
2012-06-15 02:21:23 AM
Why didn't they just go to authorities ASAP when they had that information?
 
2012-06-15 02:22:25 AM
So they're gonna release the pedofiles?

/I'll take a window seat.
//So sorry.
 
2012-06-15 02:23:32 AM

Porous Horace: I got kicked out of the boy scouts for eating too many brownies.


My uncle's favorite joke when I was growing up:

Q: You know how a Cub Scout becomes a Boy Scout?
A: They eat their brownies.

/CSB
 
2012-06-15 02:24:09 AM
as a boy scout, i was raped repeatedly. should i have said something? i was afraid i would get in trouble!
 
2012-06-15 02:27:25 AM

some_beer_drinker: as a boy scout, i was raped repeatedly. should i have said something? i was afraid i would get in trouble!


Personally, I like a little pillow talk.
 
2012-06-15 02:30:13 AM
"suspected" and "public"?

Innocent past scout leaders must be scared shiatless. What happened to due process?
 
2012-06-15 02:31:08 AM
I got kicked out the Boy Scouts when I tried to get a merit badge in kinbaku
 
2012-06-15 02:32:32 AM

talan123: Can we just admit that any organization in any society that has groups of young boys being taught by adult males is probably going attract pedophIles and that it is in the organizations best interst to tell people when it happens?


That's just ridiculous. We all know the correct answer is to cover it up for years, and then when it does finally come out, simultaneously deny it ever happened, blame the victims, and secretly pay the victims in exchange for shutting up and going away.

It's just the right thing to do.
 
2012-06-15 02:34:13 AM
Look for a massive spike in suicides in the coming weeks among scout leaders and former scout leaders, some even before the files come out.

Sgt. Expendable: RoyBatty: I know this is FARK, but that's not accurate, and I don't find it terribly funny.

Kids could use a lot more male teachers in elementary and middle school and elsewhere.

I agree. But I also know it's a terribly stressful lifestyle as well. To be worried all the time that somebody might get an inkling of an idea that there might be the slightest appearance of possible impropriety wears on you. All it takes is an accusation, however unfounded it may be, however much evidence may be in your favor, and your life is irrecoverably destroyed.


How long before all of the female teacher sex scandals being breathlessly reported (ever since Debra Lafave) cause a call for the banning of women from teaching and men to take over?

Or maybe they'll ban anyone under 40 from teaching. Not perfect but the kids will be a lot less attracted to grandma.
 
2012-06-15 02:34:51 AM
Ended my run as a scout in 82 and my son is a cub scout. Haven't encountered any molestation. My problem has been the significant change in the organization to being a church controlled religious organization. They now hide behind private club status to do whatever they want to do. Scouting was much cooler when I was a kid.

I guess we are all about to find out just how cool things really were back then.
 
2012-06-15 02:36:48 AM

foxyshadis: How long before all of the female teacher sex scandals being breathlessly reported (ever since Debra Lafave) cause a call for the banning of women from teaching and men robots to take over?


FTFY.
 
2012-06-15 02:41:03 AM
And what about the files from '85 to now? Those are still secret or what?
 
2012-06-15 02:48:01 AM

whither_apophis: kinbaku


They didn't understand it was simply for your rope tying badge?
 
2012-06-15 02:57:00 AM
I dont use the word hate lightly. I HATE the boy scouts as an organization.

However, perhaps we should actually wait to see whats IN the files when they are released before determining they are all about suspected child molestors.
 
2012-06-15 02:59:04 AM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


I can say that as a child, I was worked with by many many men, none of which molested me. so, either 1) no, every man who works with kids is not a pedo, or 2) I was not attractive to pedos.....

I find 2 hard to believe, I mean, I *ME* for god sake...
 
2012-06-15 02:59:57 AM
The purpose of the files was to keep gays/pedophiles out of the Boy Scouts. But what do facts matter on FARK.
 
2012-06-15 03:07:07 AM

Happy Hours: Genevieve Marie: gerrymander: Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?

They're pedophiles. They're attracted to children. That's their orientation.

They don't HAVE a sexual orientation towards adults. That's the entire problem.

pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.


Are you saying it's a choice?
 
2012-06-15 03:08:14 AM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


Interesting thought: Thanks to the number of high-profile molestation cases and the culture of fear they have engendered there are a lot of men who are afraid to take those kinds of jobs because of the prejudice that will get levied against them. Following this to its logical conclusion it seems likely that more non-predators will avoid such positions and thus leave them open for the predators, who aren't as bothered with being seen as a pedo because, well, they are one.
 
2012-06-15 03:09:57 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm not sure, but I just inherently don't trust a man that likes kids under any circumstances


If we don't like kids, then why would we care if they are molested?
 
2012-06-15 03:14:03 AM
With all the shiat going on especially the Sandusky case and now this, I want to just go sail to a small uninhabitated island or something. World's gone crazy.
 
2012-06-15 03:14:30 AM

gerrymander: FirstNationalBastard: Well, praise Jebus they didn't let teh homogays in the Boy Scouts! Then the organization would have really went downhill!

Out of curiosity, what gender and sexual orientation do you suspect most of these suspected child molesters are?

If, for example, your answer is "men who like boys", shouldn't that be taken as de facto evidence that the Boy Scouts' policy of keeping gays out has some basis, from their point of view? That this is 20 years worth of evidence that gays they've allowed in to the Scouts* have been detrimental to the well-being of the boys in their care, and the organization in general?

Note that I am not equating that to be equivalent to the population of gay men as a whole -- only that from their select vantage, this document release might grant more merit to the obstinacy against opening up the rolls.


Just asking questions?

/Those questions aren't just loaded
//whole post is a minefield
 
2012-06-15 03:14:58 AM

AbbeySomeone: Is every man that chooses to work with kids a pedo or do they just take the obvious position of trust and safety and exploit it?


.
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I've read stories about female teachers raping students, therefore all women who teach must be rapists. No wonder I hate union teachers.
 
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