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2012-06-15 12:31:40 PM

IAmRight: What's weird is I watched down the stretch and I remember him seeming to make everything. He actually missed four shots and a free throw in the final 5 minutes. (went 3-7, with two 3s and a FT in that stretch)


Yeah both he and Westbrook had big misses coming out of one timeout late, right after LeBron made that big bank shot. Durant jacked up a bad three just as soon as he got it at the top of the key, Westbrook got the rebound, and then missed a layup. Then Bosh gets the block and goes down to the other end for a dunk. The steal and 3 kind of hid the importance of this, but those two misses came with like 1:20 left in the game, down 6, and that's really where they let it slip away.
 
2012-06-15 12:34:01 PM

CastorTroy: tooeasy: I'm a Dallas fan, so I don't really care about the Thunder, buut I remember Wade getting special treatment to prevent a sweep in 2006, and it ended up swinging the series,to the detriment to the league.

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Meanwhile, in Dallas....


Hey, check out how over it we are!

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Seriously, I don't think anyone REALLY thought we'd repeat. And getting taken out by the Thunder, who could very well win it all, does take the sting out of a first round exit.

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Thunder up, biatches.
 
2012-06-15 12:52:46 PM

Di Atribe: Seriously, I don't think anyone REALLY thought we'd repeat.


Not after losing Chandler and Barea.

Plus you got Vince Carter, who always ensures a loss.
 
2012-06-15 01:35:28 PM
i wasn't really criticising lebron in comparison to the average superstar, but he's invited comparisons to the greatest of all time, and it appears his ceiling is around shaq's, as the most physically gifted, yet somehow disappointing player of his generation. it's a venerable stature (wilt and oscar are on par), but it isn't up there with Michael or Magic. i don't think durant's on his level yet (he's a better scorer, but lebron is superior at everything else), but of course he's five years younger
 
2012-06-15 01:41:35 PM

Di Atribe: Seriously, I don't think anyone REALLY thought we'd repeat.


And yet the Heat are there, again.
 
2012-06-15 01:57:48 PM

tooeasy: i don't think durant's on his level yet (he's a better scorer, but lebron is superior at everything else), but of course he's five years younger


You know LeBron's 27, right? And Durant turns 24 three months before LeBron turns 28.
 
2012-06-15 02:23:21 PM

tooeasy: i wasn't really criticising lebron in comparison to the average superstar, but he's invited comparisons to the greatest of all time, and it appears his ceiling is around shaq's, as the most physically gifted, yet somehow disappointing player of his generation. it's a venerable stature (wilt and oscar are on par), but it isn't up there with Michael or Magic. i don't think durant's on his level yet (he's a better scorer, but lebron is superior at everything else), but of course he's five years younger


I mean now we are being subjective but its a pretty easy argument to make that while Shaq was disappointing its hard to argue that Lebron's "disappointment" is due to lack of effort. The guy is putting up ridiculous numbers year in and year out, he has 3 MVPs, hes been to the finals now 3 times, and is statistically great. He just hasn't been able to win a ring. The Logo failed what like 7 times in the finals before winning it all? Wilt would have lost all those times in the finals had his team been from the west while Russell was in Boston. Yeah, last year he didn't look like he gave it his all in the finals. And yes he certainly deserves a fair share of the blame for us wanting him to be top 5 all time. But is there something wrong with being top 15, top 10? He has many more years ahead of him, and alot of his placement will be based upon rings at this point. Everyone was disappointed with Shaq because he clearly could dominate the whole league because of his position and his teammate Kobe. He just never came in shape and played with a ton of effort consistently. He should have won more regular season MVPs and 1 or 2 more championships, he had no equal.
 
2012-06-15 03:03:22 PM

moistD: He should have won more regular season MVPs


Although a ton of this is just bias from voters. Like when Rose won last year because no one was going to vote for LeBron after "the Decision."
 
2012-06-15 03:25:55 PM

IAmRight: moistD: He should have won more regular season MVPs

Although a ton of this is just bias from voters. Like when Rose won last year because no one was going to vote for LeBron after "the Decision."


My favorite point last year about Rose was how Chicago would be a lottery team without him, so he should get the MVP. The Bulls, of course, have a very good TEAM, and did alright without him.
 
2012-06-15 06:08:23 PM

CastorTroy: Di Atribe: Seriously, I don't think anyone REALLY thought we'd repeat.

And yet the Heat are there, again.


Yeah, you're right. Congrats to the Heat for repeating their Finals loss of 2011. Soon, they'll be the Buffalo Bills of the NBA. Quite the place in history! Can't wait to see what the trophy for that looks like.
 
2012-06-15 06:27:35 PM

IAmRight: moistD: He should have won more regular season MVPs

Although a ton of this is just bias from voters. Like when Rose won last year because no one was going to vote for LeBron after "the Decision."


I agree, Rose was not MVP last year.
 
2012-06-15 07:17:32 PM

moistD: tooeasy: i wasn't really criticising lebron in comparison to the average superstar, but he's invited comparisons to the greatest of all time, and it appears his ceiling is around shaq's, as the most physically gifted, yet somehow disappointing player of his generation. it's a venerable stature (wilt and oscar are on par), but it isn't up there with Michael or Magic. i don't think durant's on his level yet (he's a better scorer, but lebron is superior at everything else), but of course he's five years younger

I mean now we are being subjective but its a pretty easy argument to make that while Shaq was disappointing its hard to argue that Lebron's "disappointment" is due to lack of effort. The guy is putting up ridiculous numbers year in and year out, he has 3 MVPs, hes been to the finals now 3 times, and is statistically great. He just hasn't been able to win a ring. The Logo failed what like 7 times in the finals before winning it all? Wilt would have lost all those times in the finals had his team been from the west while Russell was in Boston. Yeah, last year he didn't look like he gave it his all in the finals. And yes he certainly deserves a fair share of the blame for us wanting him to be top 5 all time. But is there something wrong with being top 15, top 10? He has many more years ahead of him, and alot of his placement will be based upon rings at this point. Everyone was disappointed with Shaq because he clearly could dominate the whole league because of his position and his teammate Kobe. He just never came in shape and played with a ton of effort consistently. He should have won more regular season MVPs and 1 or 2 more championships, he had no equal.


ask Shaq
 
2012-06-15 07:40:13 PM

IAmRight: tooeasy: i don't think durant's on his level yet (he's a better scorer, but lebron is superior at everything else), but of course he's five years younger

You know LeBron's 27, right? And Durant turns 24 three months before LeBron turns 28.


alright, almost four years younger. he also plays a more physical style, but shaq and karl malone played forever as physical freaks of nature, so who knows if that'll affect his longevity?
 
2012-06-16 03:19:06 AM

CastorTroy: [zipmeme.com image 468x303]

Let them Hate


You realize there is a difference in picking a team to root for based on individual series and the majority of Heat fans that jumped on the bandwagon when the big 3 came around? The stupidity of Heat fans never ceases to astound me.
 
2012-06-16 04:04:46 PM

TheJoe03: e majority of Heat fans that jumped on the bandwagon when the big 3 came around?


Where do you people live that people actually root for the Heat? I've never seen these people anywhere I've lived or visited over the past couple of years.
 
2012-06-16 04:56:32 PM

IAmRight: Where do you people live that people actually root for the Heat?


I've met quite a few people that like the Heat in California.
 
2012-06-17 02:24:18 PM

IAmRight: TheJoe03: e majority of Heat fans that jumped on the bandwagon when the big 3 came around?

Where do you people live that people actually root for the Heat? I've never seen these people anywhere I've lived or visited over the past couple of years.


There's always one asshole at my bar wearing Heat gear and loudly coaching the team the entire time.
 
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