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2012-06-15 12:43:01 AM  
If OKC learns to start playing from the opening tipoff rather than sometime in the 3rd or 4th quarter, they're gonna be scary.
 
2012-06-15 01:04:36 AM  

jayhawk88: Langston: This is troubling. OKC needed tonight's game.

Here's why Miami might still be in trouble: Battier might not have 17 points the rest of the series, and Miami got nothing out of anyone else besides their Big 3. I think OKC gets one of the first two in Miami.


I really hope so.
 
2012-06-15 01:31:40 AM  
Even though I think OKC was robbed on that last KD play by the refs, if they make their free throws and show up in the 1st Quarter it's all moot.

This will motivate them and they'll bounce back, no worries...
 
2012-06-15 02:12:41 AM  

Peaceboy: Will Durant, and wife Ariel

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Go, Oklahoma City. Would love to see Fisher get another ring.


Thank you. I read "Will Durant"? The guy that wrote all those books my dad had? In the sports tab?
 
2012-06-15 02:50:36 AM  
I don't hate LeBron, but I do hate Wade, and the Heat depend on heavy-handed, one-sided officiating too much for my taste. If you like free throws, though, they're up there with the dream team. Cheap fouls sending Durant and Westbrook to the bench for long stretches of the first half leave a bad taste in my mouth, but Stern seems to enjoy stoking 'the memo'-type furor. At least he can't stick around for much longer. Isn't he pushing 70?Sadly, it shows
 
2012-06-15 03:06:25 AM  
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/fark schultz! fark stern! fark clay!
 
2012-06-15 03:49:28 AM  

A Fark Handle: [p.twimg.com image 361x441]

/fark schultz! fark stern! fark clay!


This right here ^^^

/I've accepted LeBron into my heart for the duration of the finals
 
2012-06-15 07:11:07 AM  

tooeasy: I don't hate LeBron, but I do hate Wade, and the Heat depend on heavy-handed, one-sided officiating too much for my taste. If you like free throws, though, they're up there with the dream team. Cheap fouls sending Durant and Westbrook to the bench for long stretches of the first half leave a bad taste in my mouth, but Stern seems to enjoy stoking 'the memo'-type furor. At least he can't stick around for much longer. Isn't he pushing 70?Sadly, it shows


The weirdest thing about this series is the fact that no one seems to be watching both teams. The Thunder depend on the free throw even more than Miami and Harden is the biggest flopper in the league, but if you look at the Fark comments you'd think that Miami won by shooting 40 free throws. They won because they shot just a little bit better and managed to keep it even on the glass, which is where OKC has their biggest advantage by far. Has Bosh grabbed 7 offensive rebounds in a game all season?

LeBron did foul Durant at the end but at full speed it looked to me like one of those "kick the defender to draw contact" moves that are universally hated, I didn't see that LeBron had his arm until they replayed it on slow mo. It's a blown call, not a conspiracy.
 
2012-06-15 07:56:32 AM  
Lebron in games after which the Heat have fallen behind in the series this playoffs... 40-18-8, 45-15-5, 32-8-5
 
2012-06-15 08:09:15 AM  

you have pee hands: The weirdest thing about this series is the fact that no one seems to be watching both teams. The Thunder depend on the free throw even more than Miami and Harden is the biggest flopper in the league, but if you look at the Fark comments you'd think that Miami won by shooting 40 free throws.


No sh*t. Every game where the free throws are even = Heat got bailed out by refs! Heat get outshot at the line by several = Good game Thunder! No bad calls at all!

KD had full control of his shot and it just didn't go in. Sometimes it happens.

Also, there's no conspiracy to cheat Stern's best friend and help the team that all the owners hate. How stupid do you have to be to think that?
 
2012-06-15 08:12:04 AM  

you have pee hands: but if you look at the Fark comments


Well, that's just a stupid thing to do. Besides, as I mentioned before, there is no reason to talk about the clutch shots from LeBron...the refs kept him from choking away a win.
 
2012-06-15 08:22:36 AM  
Heat played a better game...period. Haters can calm ya ass, and eat a bag of dicks hopefully when Heat win. ((If they do win Stern will have rigged it against his friend for no appearant reason though in that scenario in the eyes of irrational haters))
 
2012-06-15 08:37:48 AM  

IAmRight: you have pee hands: The weirdest thing about this series is the fact that no one seems to be watching both teams. The Thunder depend on the free throw even more than Miami and Harden is the biggest flopper in the league, but if you look at the Fark comments you'd think that Miami won by shooting 40 free throws.

No sh*t. Every game where the free throws are even = Heat got bailed out by refs! Heat get outshot at the line by several = Good game Thunder! No bad calls at all!

KD had full control of his shot and it just didn't go in. Sometimes it happens.

Also, there's no conspiracy to cheat Stern's best friend and help the team that all the owners hate. How stupid do you have to be to think that?


You have to admit though: That was a foul the way they were calling the game last night. Durant's no-charge was too, and I'm not saying the Thunder lost just because of that play...but that was a foul.

I'm curious: Do you feel good or nervous after last night? Thunder overall played about as poorly as we've seen since the first two SA games, and Miami squeeks out a win. I just can't help but think that Battier is soon going to remember that he's Shane Battier and it's 2012.
 
2012-06-15 08:44:12 AM  

jayhawk88: You have to admit though: That was a foul the way they were calling the game last night. Durant's no-charge was too, and I'm not saying the Thunder lost just because of that play...but that was a foul.


I didn't watch most of it because if I were a player, I would've had something like a -15 rating, many of which were on BS calls that favored OKC and Harden with his ridiculous flopping, like on that 3 where two guys were standing next to him and didn't touch him, so he threw himself down and got a call.

jayhawk88: I'm curious: Do you feel good or nervous after last night? Thunder overall played about as poorly as we've seen since the first two SA games, and Miami squeeks out a win. I just can't help but think that Battier is soon going to remember that he's Shane Battier and it's 2012.


I feel neither. Battier's been better than can be expected, but Bosh and Haslem can play better, and home-court is huge for both of these teams. I expect it to go 7, because that's what the league wants, so I'm not going to go too apesh*t over any particular game. Much like I said everyone was overreacting over Game 1, I don't think there's any reason to react too much to this game. If these games and their regular season games are any indication, they're two pretty evenly-matched teams and it'll come down to who shoots better on a given night...provided that the Heat don't do the sh*t they always seem to do and slack off when they have a lead (whether in a game or in a series).
 
2012-06-15 08:53:26 AM  
Oh, and I know that the calls for OKC were mostly because they were the team that was down, but since I knew the Thunder were going to make a move, I wanted the Heat to be up plenty in the 4th quarter.

/yeah you can say it's superstition and it's stupid but the last four games I've been in the thread during the game, the Heat are 0-4. When I don't go into the thread, they're 3-0.
 
2012-06-15 08:56:50 AM  

IAmRight: I feel neither. Battier's been better than can be expected, but Bosh and Haslem can play better, and home-court is huge for both of these teams. I expect it to go 7


Yeah I think 7's pretty likely. OKC I think can take one of the first two games in Miami, probably see the Heat up 3-2 headed back to OKC, and it will all come down to Game 7.

Most interesting to me last night was Wade. 50% from the field (20 shots though), and didn't take a single three pointer. He played really well, but he just wants no part of that outside shot right now. I would expect Brooks to maybe go some zone in Miami and see if the Heat can beat them from range.
 
2012-06-15 08:57:58 AM  

IAmRight: Oh, and I know that the calls for OKC were mostly because they were the team that was down, but since I knew the Thunder were going to make a move, I wanted the Heat to be up plenty in the 4th quarter.

/yeah you can say it's superstition and it's stupid but the last four games I've been in the thread during the game, the Heat are 0-4. When I don't go into the thread, they're 3-0.


The threads are poorer for your absence, but it's sports: You do what you gotta do.
 
2012-06-15 09:15:55 AM  

jayhawk88: Most interesting to me last night was Wade. 50% from the field (20 shots though), and didn't take a single three pointer. He played really well, but he just wants no part of that outside shot right now. I would expect Brooks to maybe go some zone in Miami and see if the Heat can beat them from range.


Wade isn't a very good 3pt shooter. He shouldn't be taking 3s unless it's a terribly broken play and there's no other choice. It's a bad sign for Miami if he takes more than one or two a game.

I'm curious: Do you feel good or nervous after last night? Thunder overall played about as poorly as we've seen since the first two SA games, and Miami squeeks out a win. I just can't help but think that Battier is soon going to remember that he's Shane Battier and it's 2012.

Battier shouldn't be that good but Chalmers shouldn't be that invisible, either. If the Thunder keep taking care of the ball as well as they have been they've got a great shot, though Brooks would do well to realize that Fisher's veteran whatever doesn't make up for the fact that he's not all that good anymore.
 
2012-06-15 09:16:40 AM  

jayhawk88: Most interesting to me last night was Wade. 50% from the field (20 shots though), and didn't take a single three pointer. He played really well, but he just wants no part of that outside shot right now.


As well he shouldn't - I remember all season people talking about how he hadn't been shooting threes (seemed like every single time I saw him make one it was his "fifth of the season") and he shot 27% from beyond the arc in the season. Battier's been shooting about 36%, Chalmers 36-39%, Miller 40+%, James Jones 40%...let them shoot threes, that's why they're employed. (Well, Battier plays D, too, so he actually gets significant playing time)

LeBron was at 36% for the season so it's a little more acceptable for him to shoot them, but both of those guys need to keep driving.

Basically, the Heat fixed their main problems in Game 1: They picked up more rebounds than the Thunder. They stopped letting them score easy transition buckets (most of which go down as points in the paint because they're damn dunks). Mike Miller played 1 minute instead of 10 - his gimpy back makes him too slow and a liability on everyone, even Fisher.

I do think it's kinda weird that Joel Anthony isn't seeing the floor in this series when OKC has a lot of front-court presence, but since they actually prevented guys like Collison from killing them on the glass, it worked out.

Now, I'm sure Scott Brooks isn't going to just settle for "well, we'll make more shots next game and Durant won't be in foul trouble." (BTW, despite foul trouble, Durant did play 39 minutes, so it's not like he wasn't on the court at all.)

OKC can play better, but so can the Heat - we've seen spurts from both teams but neither team has put together a killer game thus far. It would be stupid to say one team is clearly better or going to win.
 
2012-06-15 09:27:11 AM  
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Let them Hate
 
2012-06-15 09:27:46 AM  

IAmRight: I feel neither. Battier's been better than can be expected, but Bosh and Haslem can play better, and home-court is huge for both of these teams.


Bosh was pretty good yesterday. If he has to sacrifice most of his scoring to keep Miami from getting killed on the boards, I'm sure they'll take it. He pulled down several tough rebounds in traffic.

They could get more of that from Haslem, though, since that's basically his only job.
 
2012-06-15 09:28:02 AM  
I enjoyed the Marketplace Morning Report on NPR today. Apparently the teams should switch names: Miami's got more thunder and lightning, and OKC has average higher summer temps and more 100 degree days.
 
2012-06-15 09:29:51 AM  

you have pee hands: They could get more of that from Haslem, though, since that's basically his only job.


Well, Haslem also exists to dole out smart fouls in the paint.
 
2012-06-15 09:41:09 AM  

IAmRight: As well he shouldn't - I remember all season people talking about how he hadn't been shooting threes (seemed like every single time I saw him make one it was his "fifth of the season") and he shot 27% from beyond the arc in the season


You know I was all set to make a "Yeah he shouldn't be taking 3's but he does" argument, but hell if he didn't only take 56 three's all year, down from 200+ the past three years. He has taken 31 in the playoffs though (only made 8).

Bunny Trail: In '06 Wade took 250 FT's in the playoffs. By comparison, Shaq only took 200 in '01.

Anyway, the point was, Wade definitely played the game he needs to play last night, just remains to be seen if he can keep doing this for another 3 games.
 
2012-06-15 09:41:28 AM  

you have pee hands: Bosh was pretty good yesterday.


Well, sure, but he CAN play better. I would expect at least a 15 and 10 out of him at minimum every night - this time, he got extra boards. Next time, he can get extra points. Basically, he can do more. LeBron and Wade didn't shoot particularly well, either. Basically, all I'm saying is that Battier's really the only guy who has exceeded expectations in this series. Collison exceeded expectations in Game 1, but that's the only guy who's really had a huge game for them.

Both teams have three guys capable of giant games, and both teams have guys capable of posting 20 points or so beyond that.

I see Bosh started yesterday...interesting. I think that if he's starting, then the Heat should be expecting early leads. The problem with early leads is that you're feeling pressured the whole damn game to keep it.
 
2012-06-15 09:42:42 AM  

you have pee hands: He pulled down several tough rebounds in traffic.


He was more Nick Collison than Nick Collison
 
2012-06-15 09:44:29 AM  

CastorTroy: [zipmeme.com image 468x303]

Let them Hate


This is so true. I mean, 6 years ago you could have found a Thunder fan if you tried. Ive only been a Thunder fan for 4 years. Season tickets for only 4 seasons as well. The Thunder shouldnt have fans yet. You should have to exist for at least 10 years and win one championship before you are even allowed to sell tickets locally.
 
2012-06-15 09:51:39 AM  
lol @ this bit from ESPN about Battier:

"And while pulling on his socks in the locker room after the Game 2 win over the Thunder, Battier attributed his current scoring binge to another television program -- this time a show on Comedy Central aptly titled "Workaholics."

Makes sense. That's how you could describe Battier during this trying season in which he endured the lowest shooting percentages of his career. There's a timeworn cliché in basketball about the first guy to arrive at the gym, last guy to leave -- and that's been Battier this season."

Yeah, it makes sense if you base it on the title. If he was actually like the people in that show, he'd be masturbating on the bench during the game.
 
2012-06-15 09:54:30 AM  

IAmRight: Makes sense. That's how you could describe Battier during this trying season in which he endured the lowest shooting percentages of his career. There's a timeworn cliché in basketball about the first guy to arrive at the gym, last guy to leave -- and that's been Battier this season."


How many "first guy to arrive at the gym, last guy to leave" guys does the average NBA team have? 4? 6? It's the new "gained 20 pounds of muscle and spent the offseason working with [old school center]".
 
2012-06-15 09:56:20 AM  

CastorTroy: [zipmeme.com image 468x303]

Let them Hate


Just because, for example, I'm pulling for the Thunder doesn't mean I claim to be a Thunder fan. I think that a rooting interest is more reasonable than being a fan and giving up on the season once your team is eliminated.

A thirty year old Dolphins fan should have never had the experience of seeing a Super Bowl by that logic.

/Doesn't count if they watched it when they were two...their brain was still mush at that point.
 
2012-06-15 09:57:22 AM  

fonebone77: CastorTroy: [zipmeme.com image 468x303]

Let them Hate

This is so true. I mean, 6 years ago you could have found a Thunder fan if you tried. Ive only been a Thunder fan for 4 years. Season tickets for only 4 seasons as well. The Thunder shouldnt have fans yet. You should have to exist for at least 10 years and win one championship before you are even allowed to sell tickets locally.


You're totally indicative of the average person outside of OK that is rooting for them!

I live in Chicago; most people here are just butthurt that Lebron didn't join The Bulls. PERIOD.

/two can play that game.
 
2012-06-15 10:04:34 AM  

you have pee hands: tooeasy: I don't hate LeBron, but I do hate Wade, and the Heat depend on heavy-handed, one-sided officiating too much for my taste. If you like free throws, though, they're up there with the dream team. Cheap fouls sending Durant and Westbrook to the bench for long stretches of the first half leave a bad taste in my mouth, but Stern seems to enjoy stoking 'the memo'-type furor. At least he can't stick around for much longer. Isn't he pushing 70?Sadly, it shows

The weirdest thing about this series is the fact that no one seems to be watching both teams. The Thunder depend on the free throw even more than Miami and Harden is the biggest flopper in the league, but if you look at the Fark comments you'd think that Miami won by shooting 40 free throws. They won because they shot just a little bit better and managed to keep it even on the glass, which is where OKC has their biggest advantage by far. Has Bosh grabbed 7 offensive rebounds in a game all season?

LeBron did foul Durant at the end but at full speed it looked to me like one of those "kick the defender to draw contact" moves that are universally hated, I didn't see that LeBron had his arm until they replayed it on slow mo. It's a blown call, not a conspiracy.




Yeah, my objection wasn't that, exactly. The Thunder basically were even with the Heat this game in free throws, but that doesn't take into account soft foul calls that limitted Durant's and Westbrook's minutes. The refs were very noticeable in this game even before the critical, dubious call at the end. That the Thunder were merely even with the Heat in free throws in a home game where the Heat's strategy was 'rough them up to offset their superior athleticism' (which Spolestra basically admitted postgame), is pretty crappy, and bodes poorly for what should be a good series. But a sweep would suck for the league, and a sweep was a strong if Miami lost game 2. I'm a Dallas fan, so I don't really care about the Thunder, buut I remember Wade getting special treatment to prevent a sweep in 2006, and it ended up swinging the series,to the detriment to the league.

/also, Wade is a biatch who can dish it but can't take it
//phoniest superstar since patrick ewing
 
2012-06-15 10:17:25 AM  

tooeasy: I'm a Dallas fan, so I don't really care about the Thunder, buut I remember Wade getting special treatment to prevent a sweep in 2006, and it ended up swinging the series,to the detriment to the league.


www.dallasnews.com

Meanwhile, in Dallas....
 
2012-06-15 10:25:05 AM  
still the champs, and we already got ours against the Heat, without an asterisk
/and Deron's coming home
 
2012-06-15 10:28:54 AM  

tooeasy: Yeah, my objection wasn't that, exactly. The Thunder basically were even with the Heat this game in free throws, but that doesn't take into account soft foul calls that limitted Durant's and Westbrook's minutes. The refs were very noticeable in this game even before the critical, dubious call at the end. That the Thunder were merely even with the Heat in free throws in a home game where the Heat's strategy was 'rough them up to offset their superior athleticism' (which Spolestra basically admitted postgame), is pretty crappy, and bodes poorly for what should be a good series. But a sweep would suck for the league, and a sweep was a strong if Miami lost game 2. I'm a Dallas fan, so I don't really care about the Thunder, buut I remember Wade getting special treatment to prevent a sweep in 2006, and it ended up swinging the series,to the detriment to the league.


Durant played 39 minutes and Westbrook 42 (he was only very briefly in foul trouble), so it's not like they limited their minutes all that much. Also, LeBron finished with 4 fouls while he's typically very good about not fouling. If anything the refs weren't giving the superstars nearly as much leeway in either direction as they normally do. I'm not saying every call was good, because they weren't, but it wasn't really one sided and doesn't look like a conspiracy to me. I think most of the foul trouble has to do with really short rotations and superstars spending a decent bit of time going at each other rather than drawing their fouls on role players no one cares about.

The Heat/Dallas series in 2006 was a goddamned travesty. This is not that, at least so far.
 
2012-06-15 10:36:14 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: A thirty year old Dolphins fan should have never had the experience of seeing a Super Bowl by that logic.

/Doesn't count if they watched it when they were two...their brain was still mush at that point.


If they're a Dolphins fan, then it has been their whole life.

/one of my best friends is a Dolphins fan, I just couldn't pass it up

tooeasy: but that doesn't take into account soft foul calls that limitted Durant's and Westbrook's minutes.


Yeah, Westbrook only played a game-high 42 minutes and had three fouls, one of which was called with 7 seconds left. Clearly foul trouble cost him minutes. Durant played 39 minutes and frankly, could've fouled out if the refs wanted to call him for charging Battier.

Again, it's okay when Heat players go to the bench with fouls early, but it's unfair refereeing when it's anyone but the Heat whose players get called for fouls.
 
2012-06-15 10:52:56 AM  

you have pee hands: tooeasy: Yeah, my objection wasn't that, exactly. The Thunder basically were even with the Heat this game in free throws, but that doesn't take into account soft foul calls that limitted Durant's and Westbrook's minutes. The refs were very noticeable in this game even before the critical, dubious call at the end. That the Thunder were merely even with the Heat in free throws in a home game where the Heat's strategy was 'rough them up to offset their superior athleticism' (which Spolestra basically admitted postgame), is pretty crappy, and bodes poorly for what should be a good series. But a sweep would suck for the league, and a sweep was a strong if Miami lost game 2. I'm a Dallas fan, so I don't really care about the Thunder, buut I remember Wade getting special treatment to prevent a sweep in 2006, and it ended up swinging the series,to the detriment to the league.

Durant played 39 minutes and Westbrook 42 (he was only very briefly in foul trouble), so it's not like they limited their minutes all that much. Also, LeBron finished with 4 fouls while he's typically very good about not fouling. If anything the refs weren't giving the superstars nearly as much leeway in either direction as they normally do. I'm not saying every call was good, because they weren't, but it wasn't really one sided and doesn't look like a conspiracy to me. I think most of the foul trouble has to do with really short rotations and superstars spending a decent bit of time going at each other rather than drawing their fouls on role players no one cares about.

The Heat/Dallas series in 2006 was a goddamned travesty. This is not that, at least so far.


and harden carried the team while they were out, and they were floundering on the court at that time. i don't think the refs really swung the game last night (i thought the non-call on durant was fine, i just wish the rest of the game had been handled consistantly). i just hate when the refs are part of the story, and i don't think the Heat have much of a chance if they aren't (as spo said, they needed to physical things up to hang with the more athletic thunder, and ,if that's the case, the thunder should be shooting more free throws) it's a bad tone to set early in the series.

/i like lebron and am rooting for him to win a championship
//just not til wade's knee blows out and he's watching from the stands
 
2012-06-15 10:56:03 AM  
Heck, just look at the shot charts - In Game 1, OKC was scoring a ton around the basket - in Game 2, they stopped (a lot of which was due to Westbrook missing layups).

Another big factor is LeBron's shot chart. In Game 1, he took 10 shots outside of 10 feet, and made two. In Game 2, he took only 5 shots beyond 10 feet, making only one (the one over Sefolosha toward the end of the game).

Wade's been shooting too many jumpers in both games.

Chris Bosh? Holy sh*t, he shot ZERO shots in the paint in Game 1. Game 2? Nine shots in the paint. (and 1-4 on shots outside the paint)
 
2012-06-15 10:56:43 AM  

IAmRight: KiwDaWabbit: A thirty year old Dolphins fan should have never had the experience of seeing a Super Bowl by that logic.

/Doesn't count if they watched it when they were two...their brain was still mush at that point.

If they're a Dolphins fan, then it has been their whole life.

/one of my best friends is a Dolphins fan, I just couldn't pass it up

tooeasy: but that doesn't take into account soft foul calls that limitted Durant's and Westbrook's minutes.

Yeah, Westbrook only played a game-high 42 minutes and had three fouls, one of which was called with 7 seconds left. Clearly foul trouble cost him minutes. Durant played 39 minutes and frankly, could've fouled out if the refs wanted to call him for charging Battier.

Again, it's okay when Heat players go to the bench with fouls early, but it's unfair refereeing when it's anyone but the Heat whose players get called for fouls.


it cost him minutes in the 2nd quarter. he's got young legs, he could have gone 48

/though, like i said above, i don't think the refs swung the game. they just called it terribly and inconsistantly
 
2012-06-15 11:05:09 AM  

tooeasy: and i don't think the Heat have much of a chance if they aren't


Then again, the refs are going to get the credit if the Heat win, so this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Goddammit the Thunder have only had more FTs in both games so far! How are they supposed to deal with this kind of Miami favoritism?

What? The Thunder rally in the 3rd quarter of Game 1 came with 13 FTs awarded to them (to 7 for the Heat)? Nah, that was just proof that the Heat foul a lot!
 
2012-06-15 11:12:04 AM  

tooeasy: it cost him minutes in the 2nd quarter. he's got young legs, he could have gone 48


No, it didn't.

You don't have to take a guy out with two fouls - he could've spent maybe 30 seconds on the bench to close the first quarter. And immediately after Westbrook went to the bench, the refs bit on a Harden flop for three FTs, which ended the scoring for the quarter.

Brooks sat him for six minutes at that point...what happened during the time Westbrook was out?

3 points for Harden on those FTs
End of quarter heave
Ibaka scores (FTs)
Harden gets blocked
Fisher hits a 3
Sefolosha misses a 3
Harden gets 2 more FTs
Ibaka scores
Ibaka scores
Durant scores


Yeah, that Westbrook foul really cost 'em, they only were dominating and drawing all the calls while he was on the bench (closing the gap from 15 to 8). If he'd fouled out, maybe the Thunder win.
 
2012-06-15 11:17:37 AM  

IAmRight: tooeasy: and i don't think the Heat have much of a chance if they aren't

Then again, the refs are going to get the credit if the Heat win, so this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Goddammit the Thunder have only had more FTs in both games so far! How are they supposed to deal with this kind of Miami favoritism?

What? The Thunder rally in the 3rd quarter of Game 1 came with 13 FTs awarded to them (to 7 for the Heat)? Nah, that was just proof that the Heat foul a lot!


I know. Steal one title, and people don't give you a fair shake in the future. It's a real shame
 
2012-06-15 11:25:02 AM  

IAmRight: tooeasy: and i don't think the Heat have much of a chance if they aren't

Then again, the refs are going to get the credit if the Heat win, so this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Goddammit the Thunder have only had more FTs in both games so far! How are they supposed to deal with this kind of Miami favoritism?

What? The Thunder rally in the 3rd quarter of Game 1 came with 13 FTs awarded to them (to 7 for the Heat)? Nah, that was just proof that the Heat foul a lot!


No, LeBron could just dominate and erase all naysayers. We haven't seen that in this series yet, but he's got it in him.
 
2012-06-15 11:25:16 AM  
I must say, these threads are fascinating.

If the Heat lose, it is LeBron's fault because he choked.
If the Heat win, the refs played favorites and suck LeBron's dick.

Pointing out that Durant's fouls were all reasonable and he even got away with 1 or 2 just makes people mad.
 
2012-06-15 11:29:31 AM  

tooeasy: We haven't seen that in this series yet


The guy is averaging 31/8/5 while guarding everybody from Westbrook to Durant to Ibaka and has played all but 8 minutes.

The guy could shiat rainbows and hand out phone numbers of super models to every Farker reading this website and people would complain that the rainbows were too bright and the phone calls are all long distance.
 
2012-06-15 11:32:08 AM  

bulldg4life: the phone calls are all long distance.


I don't think anyone would complain about that. I think they'd complain that they kept going to voice mail because someone was always on the line.

/or that just because they had the number didn't mean the models were going to sleep with them
 
2012-06-15 11:39:30 AM  
Also, since I know the exact response from people, I'll go ahead and add this:

Kevin Durant is playing just as well, if not better. He is playing out of his mind and it is ridiculous to see how good he is at 23. Both players are, obviously, the best players on the court and it isn't even close. They are the MVP choices and there isn't even any point in voting. They should just go ahead and tell everyone those are the two options tied to who wins the series.
 
2012-06-15 11:55:44 AM  

bulldg4life: They are the MVP choices and there isn't even any point in voting. They should just go ahead and tell everyone those are the two options tied to who wins the series.


Realistically they're also the only options for the league MVP for several years as well.
 
2012-06-15 12:05:35 PM  

bulldg4life: Kevin Durant is playing just as well, if not better. He is playing out of his mind and it is ridiculous to see how good he is at 23. Both players are, obviously, the best players on the court and it isn't even close. They are the MVP choices and there isn't even any point in voting. They should just go ahead and tell everyone those are the two options tied to who wins the series.


I don't understand how Durant shot under 50% on the season. He looks like he should never miss. LeBron is a total freak athlete, and obviously much stronger, but Durant is just unbelievably fluid and his wingspan seems to let him get layups without even having to get his body within 7 feet of the basket. I know that's exaggerated some, but it looks like that sometimes when he's really on.
 
2012-06-15 12:17:53 PM  

you have pee hands: I don't understand how Durant shot under 50% on the season. He looks like he should never miss.


Takes too many jump shots.

What's weird is I watched down the stretch and I remember him seeming to make everything. He actually missed four shots and a free throw in the final 5 minutes. (went 3-7, with two 3s and a FT in that stretch)

What's sillier is realizing how many times the Heat turned it over in that stretch and gave up offensive rebounds.

Durant shot 7 times in the final 5 minutes.
The entire Heat team shot 6.
 
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