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2012-06-14 09:43:11 PM
Elementary school teachers show up with undergarments showing and their rack hanging out? I would have been scarred for life if any of my elementary school teachers did. Of course, none of them looked like this:


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-14 09:54:07 PM

cmunic8r99: Elementary school teachers show up with undergarments showing and their rack hanging out? I would have been scarred for life if any of my elementary school teachers did


Yes...because imagine (in my case) those modifiers added to this:
i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-14 11:01:18 PM
"Got it bad,got it bad,got it bad....I'm hot for Teacher censure..."
 
2012-06-14 11:01:52 PM
Why on Earth would anyone in their right mind want to be a teacher these days?

/which actually might explain a lot
 
2012-06-14 11:09:58 PM

robmilmel: Yes...because imagine (in my case) those modifiers added to this:


Obligatory
 
2012-06-14 11:11:53 PM
My kids attend this district.

My understanding is it's a single governing board member who has been on this tirade for years. She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy. Now every year, she brings it up. Every year, it gets tabled.

BTW, this is the same district that had the principal suspended a few years back for sending home the fake field trip letter.
 
2012-06-14 11:29:18 PM

larrycot: She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy


So, she's totally flat, isn't she?
 
2012-06-15 12:02:09 AM

larrycot: My kids attend this district.

My understanding is it's a single governing board member who has been on this tirade for years. She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy. Now every year, she brings it up. Every year, it gets tabled.

BTW, this is the same district that had the principal suspended a few years back for sending home the fake field trip letter.


Do you recall what the letter said? The article connected to the thread you listed is no longer available.
 
2012-06-15 12:07:31 AM
Yes, but what they're not telling you is that it's for the male teachers.
 
2012-06-15 12:11:26 AM

Bathia_Mapes: larrycot: My kids attend this district.

My understanding is it's a single governing board member who has been on this tirade for years. She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy. Now every year, she brings it up. Every year, it gets tabled.

BTW, this is the same district that had the principal suspended a few years back for sending home the fake field trip letter.

Do you recall what the letter said? The article connected to the thread you listed is no longer available.


Hold on while I find it......... Thanks for waiting.

The letter in question.
 
2012-06-15 12:30:34 AM

larrycot: Bathia_Mapes: larrycot: My kids attend this district.

My understanding is it's a single governing board member who has been on this tirade for years. She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy. Now every year, she brings it up. Every year, it gets tabled.

BTW, this is the same district that had the principal suspended a few years back for sending home the fake field trip letter.

Do you recall what the letter said? The article connected to the thread you listed is no longer available.

Hold on while I find it......... Thanks for waiting.

The letter in question.


Wow. Thought the principal was being semi-serious & really sarcastic until the whole bit about the dead puppy and nervous tic (which the principal misspelled, BTW).

Obviously a really bad joke, but also something that should never have been sent to parents.

Thank you for linking the letter for me. I appreciate it.
 
2012-06-15 12:32:55 AM
What a travesty.

i30.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-15 05:43:39 AM
What if, like, a teacher's bra strap is visible, but not intentionally?
Does that could as a visible undergarment?
 
2012-06-15 05:43:57 AM
Banning flip-flops seems like a good cause, feet are of the devil.

No excercise pants should make for some interesting gym classes, though...
 
2012-06-15 05:45:24 AM
Banned?
img826.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-15 05:56:06 AM
Are school boards an incubator of guanopsychotic politicians now?


GAT_00: larrycot: She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy

So, she's totally flat, isn't she?


I think I need photos in order to decide.
 
2012-06-15 05:57:21 AM
"If your child is one of the mediocre few who excels on the homework..."


WTF?
 
2012-06-15 06:08:23 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?
[img826.imageshack.us image 400x400]


What's next, 555 timers?
 
2012-06-15 06:12:36 AM
This reminds me, one of my female high school teachers had an impressive rack and always wore tops that displayed her cleavage. And I mean display. It's funny, I don't remember the subject she taught, but I know I got an A in it.
 
2012-06-15 06:15:22 AM
Anyone who wants chics to cover their clevage, tummy, shoulders, etc, is a homo!
 
2012-06-15 06:25:15 AM
Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?
 
2012-06-15 06:31:54 AM
"Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?
 
2012-06-15 06:33:05 AM

Megaslow: Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?
[img826.imageshack.us image 400x400]

What's next, 555 timers?


They can have my 555 timers when they pry them out of my cold,dead fingers.
 
2012-06-15 06:35:59 AM
I came into this thread for a "Hot for Teachers" reference. slayer199 did not disappoint me.
 
2012-06-15 06:36:23 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


If you don't think so, then you're obviously part of the problem here....
 
2012-06-15 06:41:03 AM
The morons in TFA are opening a really big can o' worms.....
 
2012-06-15 06:48:19 AM
That letter is awesome.
 
2012-06-15 06:51:40 AM

Joce678: "Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?


i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them.

why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money. i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME!

hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

 
2012-06-15 06:53:24 AM
'professional'...'professional'...'professionally'...'unprofessional'. ..'unprofessional'...'professionals'...

Also, the author appears to be a child of 15 (see picture at top-right of page).
 
2012-06-15 06:58:40 AM

skinink: Joce678: "Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?

i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money. i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


tl;dr - GET OFF MY LAWN!
 
2012-06-15 07:01:10 AM
Maybe she's on to something. It's never too early for junior to start accumulating fetishes.
 
2012-06-15 07:02:13 AM
CSB

My daughter was having one of those "Daddy-Daughter" days at her school. We were walking down the hall and just as we passed the 3rd graders home room, the teacher came walking out. She was on par with cmunic8r99's post, but she wasn't showing the whole midriff section. Cute, stacked, the sweater puppies were on display - not quite slutty, but definitely enough to catch the eye and make you want to sign up for her arts and crafts hour.

I never wanted to be a 3rd grader so badly in all my life.

/CSB
 
2012-06-15 07:03:41 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are appropriate for the work place?

Of all the things they listed, this is the only one I agree with. When you're at work, wear proper shoes.
 
2012-06-15 07:12:27 AM
CSB - In a neighboring high school in my area, they had a history of problems with low test scores in chemistry. When the older female teacher retired, they hired a hot, young, buxom teacher who excelled at getting the kids to pay attention to her. They turned that class around in a single year to having some of the best scores in the state.
 
2012-06-15 07:13:33 AM

pkellmey: CSB - In a neighboring high school in my area, they had a history of problems with low test scores in chemistry. When the older female teacher retired, they hired a hot, young, buxom teacher who excelled at getting the kids to pay attention to her. They turned that class around in a single year to having some of the best scores in the state.


The power of titties.
 
2012-06-15 07:16:12 AM
Flip-flops are for normal people at the beach and trailer trash everywhere else.
 
2012-06-15 07:20:24 AM
FTA: Men would be required to wear shirts with a collar at all times...

The only sort of a shirt I can think of that doesn't have a collar would be a wifebeater.
 
2012-06-15 07:23:30 AM

fusillade762: Are school boards an incubator of guanopsychotic politicians now?


GAT_00: larrycot: She once saw a big-boobed teacher wearing flip-flops at school and had a tizzy

So, she's totally flat, isn't she?

I think I need photos in order to decide.


My guess is that she is far from flat, in fact she is probably an oblate spheroid.
 
2012-06-15 07:24:58 AM

The Muthaship: pkellmey: CSB - In a neighboring high school in my area, they had a history of problems with low test scores in chemistry. When the older female teacher retired, they hired a hot, young, buxom teacher who excelled at getting the kids to pay attention to her. They turned that class around in a single year to having some of the best scores in the state.

The power of titties.


They never broke out the grade scores between the male and female students, but I think it has the potential to be a good example of what teenagers may be looking for to really make them care about education.
 
2012-06-15 07:46:45 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?
[img826.imageshack.us image 400x400]


I like the cut of your jib. Took me a second to get that as I no longer have 74* series part numbers kicking around in my brain.
 
2012-06-15 07:49:03 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?
[img826.imageshack.us image 400x400]


*golf clap*
 
2012-06-15 07:53:03 AM

skinink: Joce678: "Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?

i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money. i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.
 
2012-06-15 08:02:53 AM
 
2012-06-15 08:03:09 AM

Joce678: "Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?


You don't get out much, huh?
 
2012-06-15 08:04:53 AM
I'm a teacher (though I don't teach in the U.S. nor do I teach kids) I find it striking how unrealistic people are in their expectations for teachers, particularly public school teachers.

A school teacher is not some rare, highly trained professional in the same class as a transplant surgeon or a robotics engineer. Children compose a huge segment of society, and every child is entitled to the regular attention of at least half a dozen teachers. There simply aren't enough clean-cut, chaste, altruistic, patient, devoted, inspiring paragons of wisdom and compassion to go round.

The obvious mathematics of the situation should tell you that your teachers can't be much better than the average educated person. Your teachers, like it or not, are going to reflect the society from which they are hired, i.e. they're going to look like Americans, dress like Americans, talk like Americans, smoke as much dope as Americans, and apply the same work ethic as Americans.

You can nudge those standards upward a bit the more you want to pay. You're never going to get the Jesus-like pipe dream everyone feels entitled to that shiats puppies, rainbows, and six sigma outcomes. You can have the pressed shirt and the top button buttoned, but it'll cost a lot because (see above) that's a lot of pressed shirts and buttoned buttons. As it is, you're getting what you pay for, which is a certified university graduate whose best career option is dealing with poop-flinging primates and their blameless progenitors without going to jail.
 
2012-06-15 08:05:42 AM
This thread has potential...
 
2012-06-15 08:06:44 AM
What your new teacher might look like.

farm1.staticflickr.com

Check out those ankles! Hurr hurr, stampa, stampa, grrr.
 
2012-06-15 08:12:07 AM

ShannonKW:
The obvious mathematics of the situation should tell you that your teachers can't be much better than the average educated person. Your teachers, like it or not, are going to reflect the society from which they are hired, i.e. they're going to look like Americans, dress like Americans, talk like Americans, smoke as much dope as Americans, and apply the same work ethic as Americans


I'm pretty sure they do more dope than the average American.

/Honestly who could blame them
//When I was in HS ('98-'02) a teacher got busted for dealing dope to the students
 
2012-06-15 08:12:45 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?


or maybe the 74LS73.

J/K
 
2012-06-15 08:19:25 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


It's school, not Walmart.
 
2012-06-15 08:20:06 AM

pkellmey:
The power of titties.

They never broke out the grade scores between the male and female students, but I think it has the potential to be a good example of what teenagers may be looking for to really make them care about education.


Girls don't look at titties...?
 
2012-06-15 08:23:38 AM

honk: Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?

or maybe the 74LS73.

J/K


I think this will be too obscure for most Farkers....
 
2012-06-15 08:30:20 AM

ShannonKW: A school teacher is not some rare, highly trained professional in the same class as a transplant surgeon or a robotics engineer.


I believe you may have found the possible problem right there.
 
2012-06-15 08:32:52 AM

Joce678: pkellmey:
The power of titties.

They never broke out the grade scores between the male and female students, but I think it has the potential to be a good example of what teenagers may be looking for to really make them care about education.

Girls don't look at titties...?


You're right. That is covered in the fark student/teacher matrix as "F/F: ZOMG THAT IS SO HAWT!!!"
 
2012-06-15 08:33:34 AM
Flip-flops are appropriate workplace footwear for ______?
 
2012-06-15 08:35:51 AM
Won't someone PLEASE think of the children ???
 
2012-06-15 08:41:19 AM

BurnShrike: Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are appropriate for the work place?


I work in a university chemistry dependent, and granted I am in the administrative office, but I *always* wear sneakers just in case I have to walk into a lab to talk with a faculty member. .

My coworkers wear flip-flops and open sandals.

The rest of it, I don't care, but flip flops are just not safe in a professional environment.
 
2012-06-15 08:42:55 AM

pkellmey: ShannonKW: A school teacher is not some rare, highly trained professional in the same class as a transplant surgeon or a robotics engineer.

I believe you may have found the possible problem right there.


If you think that a realistic solution to the problem is insisting that teachers be highly trained professionals in the same class as transplant surgeons and robotics engineers, you are the problem.
 
2012-06-15 08:43:22 AM

slayer199: What a travesty.

[i30.photobucket.com image 400x300]


I don't feel tardy.
 
2012-06-15 08:44:05 AM

CognaciousThunk: Flip-flops are appropriate workplace footwear for ______?


Beach gigolos?
 
2012-06-15 08:44:51 AM

JWideman: This reminds me, one of my female high school teachers had an impressive rack and always wore tops that displayed her cleavage. And I mean display. It's funny, I don't remember the subject she taught, but I know I got an A in it.


Mine was an algebra teacher in eight grade. She was probably attractive at one time, like maybe the year I was born. She had a reputation for picking out a kid or two and really flirting with him, in this case me and my friend who sat next to me. She would lick her lips, flick her hair, bend over to pick up something she had dropped in front of us, then come lean over us to show us some algebraic equation, aka her boobs. She always wore loose neck blouses and bras that were too small, so nipples were seen. It got so bad that some girl, who I later found out liked me and was jealous, told her off in class about her flirting and clothes. After that she became a hard ass with us, especially me and my friend, as if we had something to do with the girl's outburst. I have a brother ten years younger than me who also had this women for algebra and he said she still did her little act. I'm also pretty sure she drank during class, can't blame her there, I would need some meds to get through eight hours of Jr High as an adult.
 
2012-06-15 08:47:42 AM

ShannonKW: pkellmey: ShannonKW: A school teacher is not some rare, highly trained professional in the same class as a transplant surgeon or a robotics engineer.

I believe you may have found the possible problem right there.

If you think that a realistic solution to the problem is insisting that teachers be highly trained professionals in the same class as transplant surgeons and robotics engineers, you are the problem.


Sure, because as we all know, everyone outside of the education industry is the problem with education. Gotcha, but still an unoriginal complaint.
 
2012-06-15 08:50:54 AM

ShannonKW: pkellmey: ShannonKW: A school teacher is not some rare, highly trained professional in the same class as a transplant surgeon or a robotics engineer.

I believe you may have found the possible problem right there.

If you think that a realistic solution to the problem is insisting that teachers be highly trained professionals in the same class as transplant surgeons and robotics engineers, you are the problem.


For one thing, you'd have to pay these highly trained professionals a lot more than you do for hammering knowledge into the thick skulls of your loinspawn.
 
2012-06-15 08:52:07 AM

skinink: Joce678: "Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting."

They're employing ex-cons as teachers?

i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money. i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Have you thought about seeing a proctologist? Because you appear to have a stick up your arse.
 
2012-06-15 08:55:06 AM
loyalkng.com
media.uselessjunk.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
douggoff.com
 
2012-06-15 08:55:24 AM

KiplingKat872: BurnShrike: Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are appropriate for the work place?

I work in a university chemistry dependent, and granted I am in the administrative office, but I *always* wear sneakers just in case I have to walk into a lab to talk with a faculty member. .

My coworkers wear flip-flops and open sandals.

The rest of it, I don't care, but flip flops are just not safe in a professional environment.


I work in a professional office in Florida doing international exports. Flip flops are A-OK here...the bosses like a "relaxed atmosphere" since the job itself can be rather stressful, and they want people to feel as comfy as possible while doing it. However, we do not have a warehouse or any facilities such as chemical labs where they could be a liability.

Also, most restaurants here, even fancy ones, do not frown upon flip-floppery. Many folk here have what they call "dress" flip flops, which are leather - or basically just a bit higher quality than the 2-dollar Old Navy style ones.

P.S. KiplingKat, I am curious - are you also on IMDB occasionally, specifically the LOTR board? :)
 
2012-06-15 08:57:18 AM

Optimus Primate: KiplingKat872: BurnShrike: Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are appropriate for the work place?

I work in a university chemistry dependent, and granted I am in the administrative office, but I *always* wear sneakers just in case I have to walk into a lab to talk with a faculty member. .

My coworkers wear flip-flops and open sandals.

The rest of it, I don't care, but flip flops are just not safe in a professional environment.

I work in a professional office in Florida doing international exports. Flip flops are A-OK here...the bosses like a "relaxed atmosphere" since the job itself can be rather stressful, and they want people to feel as comfy as possible while doing it. However, we do not have a warehouse or any facilities such as chemical labs where they could be a liability.

Also, most restaurants here, even fancy ones, do not frown upon flip-floppery. Many folk here have what they call "dress" flip flops, which are leather - or basically just a bit higher quality than the 2-dollar Old Navy style ones.

P.S. KiplingKat, I am curious - are you also on IMDB occasionally, specifically the LOTR board? :)


*cautiously* Yeees, I am a longtime Ringnut.
 
2012-06-15 09:07:32 AM
At that age, if a teacher was attractive, I don't think it would have mattered what they wore. I'd still find a way to imagine their clothes off.
 
2012-06-15 09:09:35 AM
Just because a teacher likes to wear flip-flops, visible undergarments, visible cleavage, bare midriffs, clothes that are too tight, too loose or transparent, bare shoulders, short skirts and exercise pants doesn't mean she's hookin' teachin'.
 
2012-06-15 09:11:51 AM

CarnySaur: At that age, if a teacher was attractive, I don't think it would have mattered what they wore. I'd still find a way to imagine their clothes off.


Hell, I used to do it with ones that were only slightly attractive, or even just not ugly. What can I say? I was a bored teenager.
 
2012-06-15 09:12:24 AM
2bitches1blog.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-15 09:13:22 AM
Banning visible undergarments, visible cleavage, bare midriffs, clothes that are too tight, too loose or transparent, bare shoulders, short skirts and exercise pants?

Why the hell do you think I teach? For the money?
 
2012-06-15 09:13:23 AM
moonbattery.com
 
2012-06-15 09:15:21 AM
This is ludicrous. I married my College Spanish III Teacher. Prob'ly wouldn't have gone that way had she been less generous with displaying her mammalian attributes.

Elementary School? Nevermind.

Pocket Ninja: Yes, but what they're not telling you is that it's for the male teachers.


And that, ladies and gents, is how you know he's made of win.
 
2012-06-15 09:16:50 AM
 
2012-06-15 09:20:15 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


I think they are talking about the $.99 shower-shoe kind. Which really should be limited to beach, pool, and public shower use. I have a nice pair of leather ones, and I can't imagine anyone having a problem with them.
 
2012-06-15 09:20:28 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


Would like a word...
img.toorp.org
 
2012-06-15 09:34:40 AM
Thanks for the sponsorship Optimus Primate: , very kind of you. :) I assume you are over there by another name?
 
2012-06-15 09:35:15 AM
Oh I see, it's ironic because companies don't have dress codes.
 
2012-06-15 09:35:31 AM
It may sound silly, but the truth is that many teachers just don't know how to dress for work; I think, though, it's indicative of the fact that we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.

At my school, there are several teachers who dress tastefully and appropriately. But there are others who live, LIVE for jeans days. Honestly, they get an e-mail that says they can wear jeans, and they go TOTALLY apesh*t over it, like it's some fantastic privilege to slob around in sweatshirts and flip-flops.

And then there are OTHER teachers who dress like it's a nightclub fashion show. Too-too tight, too-too short, hoochie-mama heels, and ervathang hangin' out.

It is amazing, then, that these same teachers grumble and scratch their heads when their twelve year old students show up at school wearing tube tops and hotpants.
 
2012-06-15 09:36:44 AM
i626.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-15 09:55:28 AM

Optimus Primate: KiplingKat872: BurnShrike: Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are appropriate for the work place?

I work in a university chemistry dependent, and granted I am in the administrative office, but I *always* wear sneakers just in case I have to walk into a lab to talk with a faculty member. .

My coworkers wear flip-flops and open sandals.

The rest of it, I don't care, but flip flops are just not safe in a professional environment.

I work in a professional office in Florida doing international exports. Flip flops are A-OK here...the bosses like a "relaxed atmosphere" since the job itself can be rather stressful, and they want people to feel as comfy as possible while doing it. However, we do not have a warehouse or any facilities such as chemical labs where they could be a liability.

Also, most restaurants here, even fancy ones, do not frown upon flip-floppery. Many folk here have what they call "dress" flip flops, which are leather - or basically just a bit higher quality than the 2-dollar Old Navy style ones.

P.S. KiplingKat, I am curious - are you also on IMDB occasionally, specifically the LOTR board? :)


Was going to say something like this. I work in an office in South Florida. Flip flops are okay. But in Florida, you have "nice" work flip flops, going to dinner flip flops, and then some recreational flip flops. I don't see many cheap disposable flip flops, cause when you wear flip flops a lot you tend to buy ones that are good to your feet.
 
2012-06-15 09:57:36 AM

pkellmey: Sure, because as we all know, everyone outside of the education industry is the problem with education. Gotcha, but still an unoriginal complaint.


You say it sarcastically, but I think that educational outcomes are a relatively weak function of quality of instruction. Lots of other factors are more important, particularly above a certain basic level of teacher competence. MIT and Cambridge get good outcomes not because of godlike professors (many of whom scarcely condescend to interact with their students) but because they get MIT and Cambridge-caliber students who can study in an MIT and Cambridge-caliber environment.

Putting educational outcomes on teacher quality is like attributing the speed of your car to the quality of its motor oil. Sure, bad oil can affect performance, but other factors dominate, such as the pressure on the accelerator and what make of car you have in the first place.
 
2012-06-15 09:57:37 AM

KiplingKat872: Thanks for the sponsorship Optimus Primate: , very kind of you. :) I assume you are over there by another name?


aka bogmonkey and/or Gary Shatner :) Cheers!
 
2012-06-15 10:02:26 AM

Optimus Primate: KiplingKat872: Thanks for the sponsorship Optimus Primate: , very kind of you. :) I assume you are over there by another name?

aka bogmonkey and/or Gary Shatner :) Cheers!


Oh Hey! I did not realize you were one of the many Shatners. How are you? Shoot me a PM over there if you want.
 
2012-06-15 10:10:17 AM
Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting.

"Unprofessional", I can see that. "Offensive", only if it's offensive content, and then it's the content that's offensive, not the tattoo, shouldn't have hired the person in the first place. "Distracting"? Isn't it about time we take everyone who labels something like this distracting and stake them out to an anthill? This is getting stupid, what kid is going to be "distracted" by teacher's tattoos to the point that it actually affects their schoolwork? My stepsons are easily distracted, yet they had a teacher for 2 years who had tattoos on his arms, they never got "distracted", it's a bullshiat 'one size fits all' label, and it's annoying.

Now, to be fair, they finally broke down when I was in high school back in the 80's, and let us wear shorts to school, as well as tank tops. Without some kind of guidelines in place, all Hell breaks loose. They thought ahead about shorts and stopped short-shorts before they could show up, but they forgot to have any regulation about tank tops. We had a few weeks of VERY interesting school before they said the same thing about cleavage that this policy says. I remember one girl wearing two tanks tops, and still showing us everything but nipple, so I can understand why they need to set a standard on some stuff. Most of this is idiotic though. Interestingly enough, this was in AZ as well, maybe they just like to flap the boobies in AZ?
 
2012-06-15 10:14:56 AM

Badgerlad: Banning flip-flops seems like a good cause, feet are of the devil.

No excercise pants should make for some interesting gym classes, though...


Actually the flip flop thing sounds good from a safety perspective. They aren't stable footwear, and really shouldn't be worn as often as they are. Of course women's dress shoes are even more unsafe if there is any kind of heel involved. Besides, they're pretty low-class, your teacher should have a little bit of pride in their appearance.
 
2012-06-15 10:17:55 AM

Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?


Flip flops are for the gym shower or the pool/beach. They are not for a grown adult to wear to work. The fact that you have to tell adults that they are not appropriate is sad.

If you want to be treated like an adult try dressing like one.
 
2012-06-15 10:19:00 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: What your new teacher might look like.



Check out those ankles! Hurr hurr, stampa, stampa, grrr.


Stampa stampa grrr? Jesus, how many years has it been since I've seen that posted?
 
2012-06-15 10:22:48 AM

CognaciousThunk: Flip-flops are appropriate workplace footwear for ______?


Waterloo
 
2012-06-15 10:25:40 AM

Badgerlad: Banning flip-flops seems like a good cause, feet are of the devil.


I wouldn't agree on the second part. Feet can be quite nice. Flip-flops, on the other hand, are the trashiest and ugliest footwear known to man.
 
2012-06-15 10:26:35 AM
i.imgur.com

All my teachers looked something like this, except she was the hottest one.
 
2012-06-15 10:26:57 AM

SonOfSpam: Shakespeare's Monkey: What your new teacher might look like.



Check out those ankles! Hurr hurr, stampa, stampa, grrr.

Stampa stampa grrr? Jesus, how many years has it been since I've seen that posted?


Shakespeare's Monkey, just looked at your profile pic. Hurr, hurr, indeed!!!
 
2012-06-15 10:27:52 AM

awfulperson: But there are others who live, LIVE for jeans days.


I don't see the problem with Jeans that get everyone's panties bunched they way they get yours twisted. They are durable, I can make them last 2-3 years per pair, and I wear them daily. They are decently warm in the winter, and not ridiculously hot in the summer. Spilled things like printer toner, ink, etc, don't ruin them, and the standard blue color makes a good neutral match with almost anything.

Ripped jeans are a different story, though.
 
2012-06-15 10:30:08 AM

CognaciousThunk: Flip-flops are appropriate workplace footwear for ______?


Lifeguards and crack whores.
 
2012-06-15 10:31:36 AM
No moob cleavage, please.

/ thanks
 
2012-06-15 10:37:43 AM

ShannonKW: pkellmey: Sure, because as we all know, everyone outside of the education industry is the problem with education. Gotcha, but still an unoriginal complaint.

You say it sarcastically, but I think that educational outcomes are a relatively weak function of quality of instruction. Lots of other factors are more important, particularly above a certain basic level of teacher competence. MIT and Cambridge get good outcomes not because of godlike professors (many of whom scarcely condescend to interact with their students) but because they get MIT and Cambridge-caliber students who can study in an MIT and Cambridge-caliber environment.

Putting educational outcomes on teacher quality is like attributing the speed of your car to the quality of its motor oil. Sure, bad oil can affect performance, but other factors dominate, such as the pressure on the accelerator and what make of car you have in the first place.


Well then we should just cut the public education system and save ourselves a shiatload of money. After all, the teachers aren't making much of a difference. The kids will get almost as smart all by themselves.

If we want to fix our education system, we could start by hiring people who take responsibility for their successes and their failures. I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers.
 
2012-06-15 10:45:11 AM

Mikey1969: Griffin said tattoos, especially sleeve tattoos, can appear unprofessional, offensive or distracting.

"Unprofessional", I can see that. "Offensive", only if it's offensive content, and then it's the content that's offensive, not the tattoo, shouldn't have hired the person in the first place. "Distracting"? Isn't it about time we take everyone who labels something like this distracting and stake them out to an anthill? This is getting stupid, what kid is going to be "distracted" by teacher's tattoos to the point that it actually affects their schoolwork? My stepsons are easily distracted, yet they had a teacher for 2 years who had tattoos on his arms, they never got "distracted", it's a bullshiat 'one size fits all' label, and it's annoying.

Now, to be fair, they finally broke down when I was in high school back in the 80's, and let us wear shorts to school, as well as tank tops. Without some kind of guidelines in place, all Hell breaks loose. They thought ahead about shorts and stopped short-shorts before they could show up, but they forgot to have any regulation about tank tops. We had a few weeks of VERY interesting school before they said the same thing about cleavage that this policy says. I remember one girl wearing two tanks tops, and still showing us everything but nipple, so I can understand why they need to set a standard on some stuff. Most of this is idiotic though. Interestingly enough, this was in AZ as well, maybe they just like to flap the boobies in AZ?



Arizona is where the northerners of the west go to retire. That aging demographic explains a lot of the get-off-my-lawn-go-back-to-mexico idiocy there.
 
2012-06-15 10:54:25 AM

umad: I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers administrators and elected representatives.


FTFY.

The university I work for took at 49 million dollar budget cut last year. Did they eliminate an entire level of upper administration that does not exist in other institutions and only serves to gum up the works? Did anyone even suggest they take it out of the financial sink hole of our athletics program? No. The first place they took it was to not renew many non-tenured faculty contracts, the boots on the ground teachers that handle the general courses so many students HAVE to have. Now in the chemistry department have our research faculty teaching general chemistry labs and we *still* can't cover the need for our department, biology, engineering, all the medical majors, geology, etc..

So before you get pissy with the teachers, maybe you need to look higher up the chain at the people who make the insane salaries and shiatty decisions.

And don't get me started on how many current administrative policies, such as not letting teachers give zeros for work that is not turned in, let alone all the problems caused by No Child Left Behind, have tied teachers' hands.
 
2012-06-15 11:06:41 AM

pkellmey: CSB - In a neighboring high school in my area, they had a history of problems with low test scores in chemistry. When the older female teacher retired, they hired a hot, young, buxom teacher who excelled at getting the kids to pay attention to her. They turned that class around in a single year to having some of the best scores in the state.


Did the girls get lower scores?
/Double standard again: if a male teacher hangs out his junk, his farking mug shot will appear here.
 
2012-06-15 11:20:44 AM

relaxitsjustme:


Too orange!
 
2012-06-15 11:24:06 AM
I support this initiative. This is relegated to an Elementary School, but it should probably be expanded to Middle and High School as well. The way that I view it (at my own children's school) is that school should be preparing them for life. These are degreed professionals, who should dress like they are professional teachers, not professionals on vacation, or professional hookers. Children look up to their teachers and their parents as to how they should act and behave in society. Dressing well is apart of that.
 
2012-06-15 11:25:24 AM

KiplingKat872: umad: I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers administrators and elected representatives.

FTFY.

The university I work for took at 49 million dollar budget cut last year. Did they eliminate an entire level of upper administration that does not exist in other institutions and only serves to gum up the works? Did anyone even suggest they take it out of the financial sink hole of our athletics program? No. The first place they took it was to not renew many non-tenured faculty contracts, the boots on the ground teachers that handle the general courses so many students HAVE to have. Now in the chemistry department have our research faculty teaching general chemistry labs and we *still* can't cover the need for our department, biology, engineering, all the medical majors, geology, etc..

So before you get pissy with the teachers, maybe you need to look higher up the chain at the people who make the insane salaries and shiatty decisions.

And don't get me started on how many current administrative policies, such as not letting teachers give zeros for work that is not turned in, let alone all the problems caused by No Child Left Behind, have tied teachers' hands.


+1

/College teacher
//No cleavage to speak of
 
2012-06-15 11:31:40 AM

KiplingKat872: umad: I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers administrators and elected representatives.

FTFY.

The university I work for took at 49 million dollar budget cut last year. Did they eliminate an entire level of upper administration that does not exist in other institutions and only serves to gum up the works? Did anyone even suggest they take it out of the financial sink hole of our athletics program? No. The first place they took it was to not renew many non-tenured faculty contracts, the boots on the ground teachers that handle the general courses so many students HAVE to have. Now in the chemistry department have our research faculty teaching general chemistry labs and we *still* can't cover the need for our department, biology, engineering, all the medical majors, geology, etc..

So before you get pissy with the teachers, maybe you need to look higher up the chain at the people who make the insane salaries and shiatty decisions.

And don't get me started on how many current administrative policies, such as not letting teachers give zeros for work that is not turned in, let alone all the problems caused by No Child Left Behind, have tied teachers' hands.


lol

Maybe you should actually read the post I was responding to. I do appreciate how you illustrated my point for me though. That's right, it is everybody's fault but yours that you suck at your job. Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it will fix things.
 
2012-06-15 11:36:10 AM

umad:

lol

Maybe you should actually read the post I was responding to. I do appreciate how you illustrated my point for me though. That's right, it is everybody's fault but yours that you suck at your job. Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it will fix things.


I did read it. The one missing the point is you.
 
2012-06-15 11:36:12 AM

Mikey1969: Now, to be fair, they finally broke down when I was in high school back in the 80's, and let us wear shorts to school, as well as tank tops. Without some kind of guidelines in place, all Hell breaks loose. They thought ahead about shorts and stopped short-shorts before they could show up, but they forgot to have any regulation about tank tops. We had a few weeks of VERY interesting school before they said the same thing about cleavage that this policy says. I remember one girl wearing two tanks tops, and still showing us everything but nipple, so I can understand why they need to set a standard on some stuff. Most of this is idiotic though. Interestingly enough, this was in AZ as well, maybe they just like to flap the boobies in AZ?


Our local HS has a reasonably standard dress code: No underwear showing, no middles or excessive cleavage showing, dollar bill rules (short and skirt hems must be less than a dollar bill length from the knee unless leggings are worn underneath, shoulders must be covered by a dollar bill width of material.) Yoga pants are allowed.

Enforcement has gotten lax over the years, with predictable results. Outfits have been slowly creeping towards the risque, until lately they've gotten pretty ridiculous. A crackdown was inevitable.

Kudos to the admininistration for the sneaky way it was handled. A nasty rumor was spread that because of how badly the dress code was being ignored, the new and improved dress code for the next year would be positively draconian: no shorts, no skirts ablve the knee, no skin showing more than two inches below the collarbones, no sandals or flip flops, no heels over two inches, no hair dye, no nail polish other than approved colors, etc. The students were predictably horrified. Complaints flew and facebook protests were quickly organized.

The administration let the shiatstorm brew for a few weeks, and then came out with a statement denying that there was any truth to the rumor at all. The dress code would remain exactly the same as it has been for years. Much relief was felt schoolwide, and when first period teachers starting wielding the magic dollar bill and sending kids to the office, the few weak complaints were shushed by the majority: "STFU and be glad it's not worse."
 
2012-06-15 11:37:14 AM

gulogulo:

Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.


Soldiers, Professional Athletes/Fighters, Indonesians, Samoans.
 
2012-06-15 11:45:33 AM

sp86: gulogulo:

Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.

Soldiers, Professional Athletes/Fighters, Indonesians, Samoans.


Three of them, no. Indonesians and Samoans get them because it's a cultural thing. Traditional tattoos in many Polynesian cultures contain codes of family lineages and such. Some Maori have raised a protest over people from outside their culture using their designs because they are family designs.

Soldiers tend to get tattoos to memorialize an experience/deployment or bond with their unit.
 
2012-06-15 11:49:25 AM

sp86: gulogulo:

Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.

Soldiers, Professional Athletes/Fighters, Indonesians, Samoans.


Actually I just GIS'd "Soldier Tattoos" and it looks like a lot of them are to memorialize friends that have died. The "Battle Cross" design is quite common.
 
2012-06-15 11:54:43 AM
About twelve years ago, I showed up as a sub at a local middle school. I was greeted by the principal. a middle aged woman dressed in a polo shirt, short shorts and flip flops.

I was astonished beyond words.
 
2012-06-15 12:02:49 PM

Mikey1969:

I don't see the problem with Jeans that get everyone's panties bunched they way they get yours twisted. They are durable, I can make them last 2-3 years per pair, and I wear them daily. They are decently warm in the winter, and not ridiculously hot in the summer. Spilled things like printer toner, ink, etc, don't ruin them, and the standard blue color makes a good neutral match with almost anything.

Ripped jeans are a different story, though.


My "panties" get in a bunch when educators come to work on a regular basis dressed like slobs, or dressed in a way that is indistinguishable from students. We should be setting an example.

As for durability/warmth/etcetera, khakis work just fine for all these things in a school environment. Sure, I get pencil marks/toner smudges and other things on them, but mostly, those wash out. They may wear out quicker, but they cost nearly the same as jeans anyway.
 
2012-06-15 12:05:51 PM

umad: Well then we should just cut the public education system and save ourselves a shiatload of money. After all, the teachers aren't making much of a difference. The kids will get almost as smart all by themselves.

If we want to fix our education system, we could start by hiring people who take responsibility for their successes and their failures. I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers.


Why not stop putting motor oil in your car? After all, the oil isn't making much of a difference. Your car performs almost as well with crappy oil as with top-quality stuff.

And where do you think you're going to get these magical people who are going to make everything alright? For that matter, why haven't you got them already? Clearly you think this mass of conscientious, responsible scholars is sitting around waiting to serve you. Why don't you call them?

Because they don't exist. Not unless you believe education went to pot in the U.S. because everyone simultaneously decided to hire corrupt, lazy teachers. You could as well argue that the U.S. auto industry went to pot because they hired corrupt, lazy workers, in which case you no more deserve a decent education system than you deserve to have your auto industry back.

The effort to objectively measure educational outcomes is resisted from all sides in the U.S. It is in no one's interest to do this accurately; not parents' nor teachers' nor administrations' nor (especially) students'. The only exception is bright students, but screw them. They'll go on to great things anyway. Any system that produces losers provokes howls of complaint by the slighted parties and claims of bias and oppression, and no one benefits by defending the system and getting smeared as an oppressor.
 
2012-06-15 12:06:17 PM

awfulperson: At my school, there are several teachers who dress tastefully and appropriately. But there are others who live, LIVE for jeans days. Honestly, they get an e-mail that says they can wear jeans, and they go TOTALLY apesh*t over it, like it's some fantastic privilege to slob around in sweatshirts and flip-flops.


My girlfriend and I talk about that often. Yesterday was their last school day, and her fellow teachers were all excited because they would be able to wear jeans. My girlfriend, who wears dresses like it's her job, joked she might wear a denim skirt for a day, just to fit in!

Now, in my high school, girls weren't even allowed to wear backless shoes, for fear they'd cause a pile-up in the stairwell if someone lost a shoe. Somehow, flip-flops didn't qualify as "backless" back then. Moreover, I don't remember ever seeing a teacher wearing flip-flops. My girlfriend wears flip-flops to teach as soon as it gets remotely warm. They have to be "dressy" flip-flops, not her basic black beach shoes, but they're flip-flops all the same.

Ironically, her part-time retail job forbids open-toed shoes or sandals of any kind, because she could drop merchandise and hurt her foot. I'm guessing some of the textbooks her kids might use would be heavier than a paperback copy of "50 Shades Of Grey."

awfulperson: It may sound silly, but...we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.

This bears repeating. Every year, I volunteer as a judge for a business-education voc-ed program's state conference. Think high-schoolers presenting business plans and participating in role plays based off a business scenario. The event guidelines require "professional" attire.

For the most part, the kids do well. It's hard for a guy to screw up; you can't do much with a shirt, tie and sportcoat. The ladies, on the other hand...well, as my friend observed, "a lot of girls don't know the line between 'professional' and 'club' attire." The necklines run low, the hemlines run high, and some of the heels are tall enough the girls have a hard time walking up on stage to receive an award. I judged a project for one girl who wore a black dress with a sparkling silver leopard-print motif. It was a fashion-themed project, so she looked the part, but I doubt that'd fly at Nationals.

But then, this is all under the confines of a dress code that will get you disqualified if you stray too far from acceptable. In the real world, where the actual consequences may be no more than a disapproving glance from one of the office prudes, there's less incentive to dress "appropriately." Add to that that our generation (speaking broadly) tends to be of the opinion that workplace attire isn't directly correlated to performance, and that comfort is king.

That attitude's fine when you're only dealing with like-minded people. But when you're dealing with executives and senior people who have been around for some time, it's a different story. They wear a tie and sportcoat to work because they have for thirty years. They're not so accepting of the dude with the gauged ears and eyebrow piercing, or the girl wearing an Ally McBeal-length skirt suit and flip-flops with a flower inked on her ankle. It's just alien to them that the kids wouldn't care to set forth a better first impression.

Though that said, who besides their parents is educating them on how to look professional? The kids I mentioned have business and marketing teachers reminding them that not wearing a necktie or nylons could cost them a chance at the national convention. What about the kids who aren't in a business-education program? My mother worked at a law office and had to dress the part. My father was in construction and wore jeans every day of the week. So I had some parental input on how to look business-appropriate. Someone whose parent or parents aren't office professionals won't have that, and chances are the high school guidance counselor's priorities aren't going to involve how to tie a necktie or how to button the top blouse button so as not to be a tart.
 
2012-06-15 12:07:31 PM

hasty ambush: Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?

Flip flops are for the gym shower or the pool/beach. They are not for a grown adult to wear to work. The fact that you have to tell adults that they are not appropriate is sad.

If you want to be treated like an adult try dressing like one.


along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
www.getoutdoors.com
 
2012-06-15 12:27:18 PM

ShannonKW: You say it sarcastically, but I think that educational outcomes are a relatively weak function of quality of instruction. Lots of other factors are more important, particularly above a certain basic level of teacher competence. MIT and Cambridge get good outcomes not because of godlike professors (many of whom scarcely condescend to interact with their students) but because they get MIT and Cambridge-caliber students who can study in an MIT and Cambridge-caliber environment.


I agree, I think teachers have a lot less to do with outcome than most people think.
 
2012-06-15 12:33:42 PM

awfulperson: It may sound silly, but the truth is that many teachers just don't know how to dress for work; I think, though, it's indicative of the fact that we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.


Or, we have a new generation that doesn't share the older generation's value system.
If you dress up in a suit and tie and come to where I work, my boss might actually send you home to change. He's very pragmatic and practical. He understands being comfortable is more productive than looking some arbitrary part. I wore a suit and tie one time, we had some inspectors in the lab. I never heard the end of it. All day long he picked at me about how uncomfortable I looked, an d he was right, I was miserable, I got nothing done that day.

But I will never roll up in here in flip flops.. well, I wear sandals sometimes in the summer. I won't come in here in t-shirts... wait, I'm wearing one now. Well, if I do wear a t-shirt, it will just be a solid color and classy... well, wait I'm wearing my Lambda Lambda Lambda t-shirt today... where I work, being comfortable and productive IS professional.
 
2012-06-15 12:38:49 PM

stonicus: awfulperson: It may sound silly, but the truth is that many teachers just don't know how to dress for work; I think, though, it's indicative of the fact that we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.

Or, we have a new generation that doesn't share the older generation's value system.
If you dress up in a suit and tie and come to where I work, my boss might actually send you home to change. He's very pragmatic and practical. He understands being comfortable is more productive than looking some arbitrary part. I wore a suit and tie one time, we had some inspectors in the lab. I never heard the end of it. All day long he picked at me about how uncomfortable I looked, an d he was right, I was miserable, I got nothing done that day.

But I will never roll up in here in flip flops.. well, I wear sandals sometimes in the summer. I won't come in here in t-shirts... wait, I'm wearing one now. Well, if I do wear a t-shirt, it will just be a solid color and classy... well, wait I'm wearing my Lambda Lambda Lambda t-shirt today... where I work, being comfortable and productive IS professional.


===============

Dressing like an adult doesn't mean you have to be uncomfortable.

How to Dress Like a Man
 
2012-06-15 12:41:17 PM

awfulperson: Mikey1969:

I don't see the problem with Jeans that get everyone's panties bunched they way they get yours twisted. They are durable, I can make them last 2-3 years per pair, and I wear them daily. They are decently warm in the winter, and not ridiculously hot in the summer. Spilled things like printer toner, ink, etc, don't ruin them, and the standard blue color makes a good neutral match with almost anything.

Ripped jeans are a different story, though.

My "panties" get in a bunch when educators come to work on a regular basis dressed like slobs, or dressed in a way that is indistinguishable from students. We should be setting an example.

As for durability/warmth/etcetera, khakis work just fine for all these things in a school environment. Sure, I get pencil marks/toner smudges and other things on them, but mostly, those wash out. They may wear out quicker, but they cost nearly the same as jeans anyway.


As a high school art teacher, I cannot afford to replace khakis all the time, thus, I wear jeans or shorts most days. Dress shirts are the same deal. Give me a wardrobe-allowance and I'll play ball (the same way the superintendent gets a travel-allowance above his six-figure salary). Otherwise, STFU and let me teach my subject matter.
 
2012-06-15 12:44:34 PM
BTW...I buy most of my clothing on clearance from Old Navy or Kohls (slickdeals FTW)...hard to afford to live in expensive-ass Southern California on a teacher salary when you're the only income in a family of four. Add to that some prudes that want me to dress like a businessman while teaching art, and it ain't gonna happen.
 
2012-06-15 12:50:13 PM

Fissile:
Dressing like an adult doesn't mean you have to be uncomfortable.

How to Dress Like a Man


FTA: Well, it is also comfortable not to shave and not to bathe, and we have a word for people like that: slobs. If you don't want to be a slob, you have to live with a bit of discomfort.

Not shaving is itchy. Not bathing makes me feel greasy and my smelly. Neither of those are comfortable to me.

The article is heavy on suits. Tto me, suits are stupid. They look ridiculous, and I don't understand the fascination with them. I will never wear a tie. I like to breathe. I am 100% willing to accept I am in the minority and that I care about what a person can do not what they wear. But, someone in a suit, not only do they not impress me, they de-impress me.
 
2012-06-15 12:53:08 PM

SubBass49: BTW...I buy most of my clothing on clearance from Old Navy or Kohls (slickdeals FTW)...hard to afford to live in expensive-ass Southern California on a teacher salary when you're the only income in a family of four. Add to that some prudes that want me to dress like a businessman while teaching art, and it ain't gonna happen.


=========

You should have gotten yourself a teaching job in suburban New Jersey. After 10 years, most are over $100K, and it's not uncommon for suburban school superintendents to make over $200K.

/Highest property taxes in the USA
 
2012-06-15 12:58:58 PM

stonicus: Fissile:
Dressing like an adult doesn't mean you have to be uncomfortable.

How to Dress Like a Man

FTA: Well, it is also comfortable not to shave and not to bathe, and we have a word for people like that: slobs. If you don't want to be a slob, you have to live with a bit of discomfort.

Not shaving is itchy. Not bathing makes me feel greasy and my smelly. Neither of those are comfortable to me.

The article is heavy on suits. Tto me, suits are stupid. They look ridiculous, and I don't understand the fascination with them. I will never wear a tie. I like to breathe. I am 100% willing to accept I am in the minority and that I care about what a person can do not what they wear. But, someone in a suit, not only do they not impress me, they de-impress me.


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You didn't real the article all the way through, because it's not heavy on suits, it's heavy on big boy pants and sports coats. Big boy pants with a sports coat is not a suit.

/Only own 3 suits
 
2012-06-15 01:08:25 PM

Fissile: You didn't real the article all the way through, because it's not heavy on suits, it's heavy on big boy pants and sports coats. Big boy pants with a sports coat is not a suit.

/Only own 3 suits


Call it whatever name you will, but on a comfort scale, pants and sports coat = suit to me
I realize this stuff matters to majority of people, but it just doesn't to me.
Sometimes I wish it did, life would be easier if I could fit in better and understand why these kinds of things matter to someone. I routinely go shopping in my pj's and don't even think twice about it.
 
2012-06-15 01:09:01 PM
as a schoolteacher i wholly support this. i'm a bit tired of dressing in jacket and tie while my female colleagues wear bustiers and camel toes and see-through tops and butt violators.
 
2012-06-15 01:11:12 PM

mentula: as a schoolteacher i wholly support this. i'm a bit tired of dressing in jacket and tie while my female colleagues wear bustiers and camel toes and see-through tops and butt violators.


I do and don't want to know what this is. Right now, do is winning. Although I think I may regret asking...
 
2012-06-15 01:20:03 PM

namegoeshere: mentula: as a schoolteacher i wholly support this. i'm a bit tired of dressing in jacket and tie while my female colleagues wear bustiers and camel toes and see-through tops and butt violators.

I do and don't want to know what this is. Right now, do is winning. Although I think I may regret asking...


I'm guessing (or hoping) he means a thong!
 
2012-06-15 01:32:53 PM

KiplingKat872: sp86: gulogulo:

Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.

Soldiers, Professional Athletes/Fighters, Indonesians, Samoans.

Actually I just GIS'd "Soldier Tattoos" and it looks like a lot of them are to memorialize friends that have died. The "Battle Cross" design is quite common.


A lot of them.

KiplingKat872: sp86: gulogulo:

Your name is ironic. And yeah you sound...'getoffmylawny' out of touch. I don't know anyone with the exception of convicts who get tattoos to scare people.

Soldiers, Professional Athletes/Fighters, Indonesians, Samoans.

Three of them, no. Indonesians and Samoans get them because it's a cultural thing. Traditional tattoos in many Polynesian cultures contain codes of family lineages and such. Some Maori have raised a protest over people from outside their culture using their designs because they are family designs.

Soldiers tend to get tattoos to memorialize an experience/deployment or bond with their unit.


Cultural or not, Traditional Warrior Tattoos are meant to intimidate as much as decorate. Like those that denote a Mungglot (SP?) in the Kalinga tradition.
 
2012-06-15 01:38:35 PM

Fissile: SubBass49: BTW...I buy most of my clothing on clearance from Old Navy or Kohls (slickdeals FTW)...hard to afford to live in expensive-ass Southern California on a teacher salary when you're the only income in a family of four. Add to that some prudes that want me to dress like a businessman while teaching art, and it ain't gonna happen.

=========

You should have gotten yourself a teaching job in suburban New Jersey. After 10 years, most are over $100K, and it's not uncommon for suburban school superintendents to make over $200K.

/Highest property taxes in the USA


Holy shiat...with a masters degree and 10 years of teaching, I'm only making about $55k in one of the most expensive housing markets in the US. Of course, the trade off is that I live in So-Cal.
 
2012-06-15 01:52:22 PM

Fissile: stonicus: awfulperson: It may sound silly, but the truth is that many teachers just don't know how to dress for work; I think, though, it's indicative of the fact that we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.

Or, we have a new generation that doesn't share the older generation's value system.
If you dress up in a suit and tie and come to where I work, my boss might actually send you home to change. He's very pragmatic and practical. He understands being comfortable is more productive than looking some arbitrary part. I wore a suit and tie one time, we had some inspectors in the lab. I never heard the end of it. All day long he picked at me about how uncomfortable I looked, an d he was right, I was miserable, I got nothing done that day.

But I will never roll up in here in flip flops.. well, I wear sandals sometimes in the summer. I won't come in here in t-shirts... wait, I'm wearing one now. Well, if I do wear a t-shirt, it will just be a solid color and classy... well, wait I'm wearing my Lambda Lambda Lambda t-shirt today... where I work, being comfortable and productive IS professional.

===============

Dressing like an adult doesn't mean you have to be uncomfortable.

How to Dress Like a Man


Whoever wrote that knows little about men's clothing, and even less about society since 1955.
 
2012-06-15 01:58:11 PM

Sofa King Smart: along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
[www.getoutdoors.com image 340x561]


When you're bleeding to death in the emergency room I hope you don't have an allergic reaction to all those adult health care professionals wearing crocs.
 
2012-06-15 02:03:30 PM

Snargi: Sofa King Smart: along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
[www.getoutdoors.com image 340x561]

When you're bleeding to death in the emergency room I hope you don't have an allergic reaction to all those adult health care professionals wearing crocs.


We had a thread about this years ago. Crocs are acceptable for medical professionals, gardening, boating, and any other time your shoes will need to be hosed off. Other than that, not for adults. Not yours.
 
2012-06-15 02:06:29 PM

Snargi: Sofa King Smart: along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
[www.getoutdoors.com image 340x561]

When you're bleeding to death in the emergency room I hope you don't have an allergic reaction to all those adult health care professionals wearing crocs.


is that common? (I have no idea... haven't been inside a hospital in at least a decade).
 
2012-06-15 02:10:42 PM

sp86: Cultural or not, Traditional Warrior Tattoos are meant to intimidate as much as decorate. Like those that denote a Mungglot (SP?) in the Kalinga tradition.


I'm sorry, but you can't point to a isolated single example and say, "That's why all Polynesian cultures tattoo." In Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, and Maori, it is a right of passage for both men and women, indicating family lineage and social status. In Borneo, they indicate personal history as well indicating where someone has lived and events like the birth of a child.

Tattoo's may frighten you, but that does not mean that is the intent they were applied.
 
2012-06-15 02:11:46 PM

give me doughnuts: Fissile: stonicus: awfulperson: It may sound silly, but the truth is that many teachers just don't know how to dress for work; I think, though, it's indicative of the fact that we have an ENTIRE CULTURE that doesn't know how to dress professionally.

Or, we have a new generation that doesn't share the older generation's value system.
If you dress up in a suit and tie and come to where I work, my boss might actually send you home to change. He's very pragmatic and practical. He understands being comfortable is more productive than looking some arbitrary part. I wore a suit and tie one time, we had some inspectors in the lab. I never heard the end of it. All day long he picked at me about how uncomfortable I looked, an d he was right, I was miserable, I got nothing done that day.

But I will never roll up in here in flip flops.. well, I wear sandals sometimes in the summer. I won't come in here in t-shirts... wait, I'm wearing one now. Well, if I do wear a t-shirt, it will just be a solid color and classy... well, wait I'm wearing my Lambda Lambda Lambda t-shirt today... where I work, being comfortable and productive IS professional.

===============

Dressing like an adult doesn't mean you have to be uncomfortable.

How to Dress Like a Man

Whoever wrote that knows little about men's clothing, and even less about society since 1955.


Indeed. My dad just retired after 40 years as a sales engineer for an industrial lubricants company and he was chronicling the trends in business dress even over the course of his 40 years the other night.

Styles and trends come and go. Dressing appropriate for your job is not that hard to do. It takes a little common sense.

I'm an engineer and usually wear slacks and a button down or golf shirt. That's the norm for my company for everyone from lowly engineer grunts like me to the senior vps and ceo.

When I'm in the lab looking into why a 10" water main broke open, it's going to be dirty, and I might where Carharts. No one thinks anything of it.

This is not complicated. Some inflexible old people may not like it, but sport coats and ties have become much closure to semi formal and further from casual over the years. It's not the end of the world.

And I'm not paying over $400 for footware that I can't hike very long distances or ski in. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. And I own one suit for weddings and funerals. And I wore it to my job interviews.
 
2012-06-15 02:29:01 PM

Sofa King Smart: hasty ambush: Terrible Old Man: Flip-flops? Really? Who the blue hell thinks flip-flops are the devil?

Flip flops are for the gym shower or the pool/beach. They are not for a grown adult to wear to work. The fact that you have to tell adults that they are not appropriate is sad.

If you want to be treated like an adult try dressing like one.

along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
[www.getoutdoors.com image 340x561]


...aaaand *print*
I've been wondering where to find a picture of George Bush in a dress.
hellooo wall.
 
2012-06-15 02:34:19 PM

Mose: Indeed. My dad just retired after 40 years as a sales engineer for an industrial lubricants company and he was chronicling the trends in business dress even over the course of his 40 years the other night.

Styles and trends come and go. Dressing appropriate for your job is not that hard to do. It takes a little common sense.

I'm an engineer and usually wear slacks and a button down or golf shirt. That's the norm for my company for everyone from lowly engineer grunts like me to the senior vps and ceo.

When I'm in the lab looking into why a 10" water main broke open, it's going to be dirty, and I might where Carharts. No one thinks anything of it.

This is not complicated. Some inflexible old people may not like it, but sport coats and ties have become much closure to semi formal and further from casual over the years. It's not the end of the world.

And I'm not paying over $400 for footware that I can't hike very long distances or ski in. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. And I own one suit for weddings and funerals. And I wore it to my job interviews.


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Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.

Suits I own:

1 -- Light Gray
1 -- Dark Gray (almost black)
1 -- Navy

The above three will get you through everything -- job interviews, weddings, funerals and the like. All were name brand, but none were overly expensive. The important thing is that it doesn't attract a lot of attention and it fits properly.

/Seldom wear a suit
// Know when a suit is appropriate.
 
2012-06-15 02:38:33 PM

Fissile:
Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.


First example, his clothes might actually hinder him from doing the job, either they're not made for rough use or the guy is going to go out of hiw to not mess them up.

Second example, his clothes have no influence what-so-ever on whether he can do the job or not. The only limit is your arbitrary judgement system that says if a guy is wearing pants and a sports coat, his code magically works better.
 
2012-06-15 02:56:43 PM

stonicus: Fissile:
Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.

First example, his clothes might actually hinder him from doing the job, either they're not made for rough use or the guy is going to go out of hiw to not mess them up.

Second example, his clothes have no influence what-so-ever on whether he can do the job or not. The only limit is your arbitrary judgement system that says if a guy is wearing pants and a sports coat, his code magically works better.


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How old are you? I really hope you are not over 25. Despite what you may think, people DO make snap judgments about you withing the first few minutes of meeting you. Numerous psychological studies have been done on this very topic. We draw conclusions about others within seconds of first meeting them, conclusions we will find hard to shake in the future, even if we see evidence to disprove them. How you dress is one of the factors in how people judge you.

Not only is it important in how people judge your business/professional competence, but it also affects the way the opposite sex thinks of you. Case in point: I recently overheard some young ladies talking about a bar they visited in NYC last weekend. One of the girls stated that the males patronizing said bar were, "Overgrown frat boys dressed in baggy shorts, flip-flops and ball caps." The other women rolled their eyes after hearing this.

/Every woman loves a sharp dressed man
 
2012-06-15 03:02:51 PM

KiplingKat872: [snip]


It's neither single nor isolated. It was just an example I used. The design itself isn't intrinsically scary either, what it conveys is. An American Soldier with a tattoo reading كافر
isn't scary to a westerner, but to a typical resident of Iraq it's horrifyingly taboo.
 
2012-06-15 03:15:32 PM

Fissile: stonicus: Fissile:
Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.

First example, his clothes might actually hinder him from doing the job, either they're not made for rough use or the guy is going to go out of hiw to not mess them up.

Second example, his clothes have no influence what-so-ever on whether he can do the job or not. The only limit is your arbitrary judgement system that says if a guy is wearing pants and a sports coat, his code magically works better.

=================

How old are you? I really hope you are not over 25. Despite what you may think, people DO make snap judgments about you withing the first few minutes of meeting you. Numerous psychological studies have been done on this very topic. We draw conclusions about others within seconds of first meeting them, conclusions we will find hard to shake in the future, even if we see evidence to disprove them. How you dress is one of the factors in how people judge you.


They do. And some people will see a guy in a suit and write them off in their heads. When I see a cop in a suit, I think douche. How the hell does a tie help you catch criminals? When I see a restaurant manager in a suit, I think douche. Does that sports coat make the soup taste better? When I see a programmer in a suit, I think total dumb ass.

I100% get the concept you're trying to point out, I just disagree with what you consider to be appropriate attire. And I am fully aware I in the minority in my fashion open mindedness.

Not only is it important in how people judge your business/professional competence, but it also affects the way the opposite sex thinks of you. Case in point: I recently overheard some young ladies talking about a bar they visited in NYC last weekend. One of the girls stated that the males patronizing said bar were, "Overgrown frat boys dressed in baggy shorts, flip-flops and ball caps." The other women rolled their eyes after hearing this.

Sound like biatches... but if that's the kind of girl you'd like, power to you.

/Every woman loves a sharp dressed man

Every girl's crazy bout a sharp dressed man. At least get the lyrics right. =)
 
2012-06-15 03:16:07 PM
Screwed up my tags... my sign I am done for the day! Peace!
 
2012-06-15 03:25:31 PM

stonicus: Sound like biatches... but if that's the kind of girl you'd like, power to you.


===========

The refrain of every dateless wonder.

/Vaseline and Kleenex on sale at Walmart
 
2012-06-15 03:26:48 PM

sp86: KiplingKat872: [snip]

It's neither single nor isolated. It was just an example I used. The design itself isn't intrinsically scary either, what it conveys is. An American Soldier with a tattoo reading كافر
isn't scary to a westerner, but to a typical resident of Iraq it's horrifyingly taboo.


An American soldier calling himself an infidel is taboo? In Iraq I'm sure there are plenty of people who call him one all the time.

But your point was that people get tattoos to be scary, and in the majority of circumstances that is not the case. You think tattoos are intrinsically scary because you find them scary. I have a tattoo of a Rudyard Kipling quote because it was something my father liked to say about me, I didn't get it for anyone but myself and it's is hardly threatening.
 
2012-06-15 03:42:10 PM

SubBass49: As a high school art teacher, I cannot afford to replace khakis all the time


Are you aware of an amazing invention that helps keeps you from getting paint on your clothes? It's called an APRON.

You could wear a lab coat, too... but then you'd look like a science dork instead of a laid back bohemian artiste.
 
2012-06-15 03:43:50 PM

Fissile: Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.


You should have just said that from the start, because on that point we agree. That's not what that idiotic Lew Rockwell article said though. That isn't what I got out of it anyway.
 
2012-06-15 04:08:00 PM

Sofa King Smart:

along these lines... I'm fairly ambivalent about the flip flops... but anyone that wears crocs that is over the age of 8 should just be shot on sight.

case in point.
[www.getoutdoors.com image 340x561]


I am a 38 year old man and I wear them. Every. Single. Day. However, I farking hate them and think they are hideous but they make my knees not hurt and my plantar fasciitis not cripple me. Simply wearing these shoes provides enormous relief so I'll take the fashion hit to be able to walk normally.
 
2012-06-15 04:36:27 PM

stonicus: Fissile: stonicus: Fissile:
Point is you are supposed to dress appropriately for a the job you do, and the place where you do it. You may be an engineer with a masters, but I'd think you were a complete tool if you showed up at a dirty job site dressed in Brooks Brothers and wingtips. On the other hand, if I showed up at your professional engineering office, and you came out to greet me wearing shorts and flip-flops, I'd have some questions about your level of maturity.

First example, his clothes might actually hinder him from doing the job, either they're not made for rough use or the guy is going to go out of hiw to not mess them up.

Second example, his clothes have no influence what-so-ever on whether he can do the job or not. The only limit is your arbitrary judgement system that says if a guy is wearing pants and a sports coat, his code magically works better.

=================

How old are you? I really hope you are not over 25. Despite what you may think, people DO make snap judgments about you withing the first few minutes of meeting you. Numerous psychological studies have been done on this very topic. We draw conclusions about others within seconds of first meeting them, conclusions we will find hard to shake in the future, even if we see evidence to disprove them. How you dress is one of the factors in how people judge you.

They do. And some people will see a guy in a suit and write them off in their heads. When I see a cop in a suit, I think douche. How the hell does a tie help you catch criminals? When I see a restaurant manager in a suit, I think douche. Does that sports coat make the soup taste better? When I see a programmer in a suit, I think total dumb ass.

I100% get the concept you're trying to point out, I just disagree with what you consider to be appropriate attire. And I am fully aware I in the minority in my fashion open mindedness.

Not only is it important in how people judge your business/professional competence, but it also affects t ...


Don't forget the old joke:

Q - What do you call a Teamster in a 3-piece suit?

A - The Defendant!
 
2012-06-15 05:42:07 PM

umad: ShannonKW: pkellmey: Sure, because as we all know, everyone outside of the education industry is the problem with education. Gotcha, but still an unoriginal complaint.

You say it sarcastically, but I think that educational outcomes are a relatively weak function of quality of instruction. Lots of other factors are more important, particularly above a certain basic level of teacher competence. MIT and Cambridge get good outcomes not because of godlike professors (many of whom scarcely condescend to interact with their students) but because they get MIT and Cambridge-caliber students who can study in an MIT and Cambridge-caliber environment.

Putting educational outcomes on teacher quality is like attributing the speed of your car to the quality of its motor oil. Sure, bad oil can affect performance, but other factors dominate, such as the pressure on the accelerator and what make of car you have in the first place.

Well then we should just cut the public education system and save ourselves a shiatload of money. After all, the teachers aren't making much of a difference. The kids will get almost as smart all by themselves.

If we want to fix our education system, we could start by hiring people who take responsibility for their successes and their failures. I don't think there is a bigger group of "pass the buck" assholes out there than teachers parents.


Fixed that for you.
 
2012-06-15 06:20:19 PM

SubBass49: As a high school art teacher, I cannot afford to replace khakis all the time, thus, I wear jeans or shorts most days. Dress shirts are the same deal. Give me a wardrobe-allowance and I'll play ball (the same way the superintendent gets a travel-allowance above his six-figure salary). Otherwise, STFU and let me teach my subject matter.


An art teacher? THAT DOESN'T COUNT. You are supposed to look like a burned out hippie with paint-covered jeans and a ponytail. Same goes for shop teachers, who all wear the stained, short-sleeved button-down polyester shirts, and the gym teachers who wear ball-hugging sweatshorts. YOU GUYS ARE THE EXCEPTIONS.
 
2012-06-15 06:40:23 PM

awfulperson: SubBass49: As a high school art teacher, I cannot afford to replace khakis all the time, thus, I wear jeans or shorts most days. Dress shirts are the same deal. Give me a wardrobe-allowance and I'll play ball (the same way the superintendent gets a travel-allowance above his six-figure salary). Otherwise, STFU and let me teach my subject matter.

An art teacher? THAT DOESN'T COUNT. You are supposed to look like a burned out hippie with paint-covered jeans and a ponytail. Same goes for shop teachers, who all wear the stained, short-sleeved button-down polyester shirts, and the gym teachers who wear ball-hugging sweatshorts. YOU GUYS ARE THE EXCEPTIONS.


===================

My auto shop teacher and metal shop teacher wore blue shop coats. My wood shop teacher wore jeans and flannel shirts. A couple of years after I graduated, all the shop classes were eliminated, and replaced with computer lab.
 
2012-06-15 08:53:24 PM
All of you posting text need to post a picture instead. I would, but I'm too stupid to figure out how.
 
2012-06-15 09:41:05 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Banned?
[img826.imageshack.us image 400x400]


Do you have any idea how much beer I've consumed to try and forget the TTL product codes? And here you are bringing them right back to memory!

/shakes drunken fist
//falls asleep mumbling truth tables
 
2012-06-15 11:19:17 PM

KiplingKat872: sp86: KiplingKat872: [snip]

It's neither single nor isolated. It was just an example I used. The design itself isn't intrinsically scary either, what it conveys is. An American Soldier with a tattoo reading كافر
isn't scary to a westerner, but to a typical resident of Iraq it's horrifyingly taboo.

An American soldier calling himself an infidel is taboo? In Iraq I'm sure there are plenty of people who call him one all the time.

But your point was that people get tattoos to be scary, and in the majority of circumstances that is not the case. You think tattoos are intrinsically scary because you find them scary. I have a tattoo of a Rudyard Kipling quote because it was something my father liked to say about me, I didn't get it for anyone but myself and it's is hardly threatening.


I'm sorry I didn't realize I was talking to an idiot. Carry on.
 
2012-06-15 11:34:39 PM

four95: Won't someone PLEASE think of the children ???


you mean other than the catholic church?
 
2012-06-16 07:19:13 AM

texmeth: [i626.photobucket.com image 553x638]


I love this picture. Where is it from?
 
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