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(Politicker)   Obama gives his big speech in Ohio, and the glowing press reviews are in: Politico wishes it was 20 minutes shorter, ABC dismisses it as just another lecture,and MSNBC rates it "one of the worst speeches I've ever heard"   (politicker.com) divider line 214
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2012-06-15 02:14:23 PM

HeartBurnKid: gaspode: Yes, the person asking to be the President of the most powerful nation on earth should not give speeches that are 'Long' and 'Wordy'

ffs.

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Welcome to America.

/seriously, we're that dumb


Sad but true.
 
2012-06-15 02:23:07 PM
BeesNuts

karnal: cameroncrazy1984


karnal: Trapper439

Get back to me when a Republican has delivered a better speech, subby.

Hell, get back to me when a Republican delivers a speech in which they detail an actual alternative policy position.

I've heard that both sides are bad, but that argument for voting Republican doesn't convince me.


Some people are just a lost cause.

Yes you are.

[www.thevictoryformation.com image 416x600]

You know. If you're going to post this much, people are going to be forced to ignore you. And I know you love yourself way to much to let that happen.

So how about we tone it down a bit karn, eh? Here's a tip on the cheap:
1) Write up your post.
2) Go read something for 5 minutes
3) Come back and read your post
4) Make your decision about whether that's something worth saying.

A lil' "look before you leap" can help you maintain your thinning veneer of legitimacy until the election actually happens. And that's where the REAL attention whoring can happen. Blow your load now and you better have a handful of seasoned alts to work with, or I'm afraid you're gonna be really damned bored come November.

Just sayin'.



Thank you, Mr Moderator....you seem to be quite the fan of hearing yourself drone on.
 
2012-06-15 04:20:56 PM

karnal: BeesNuts

karnal: cameroncrazy1984


karnal: Trapper439

Get back to me when a Republican has delivered a better speech, subby.

Hell, get back to me when a Republican delivers a speech in which they detail an actual alternative policy position.

I've heard that both sides are bad, but that argument for voting Republican doesn't convince me.


Some people are just a lost cause.

Yes you are.

[www.thevictoryformation.com image 416x600]

You know. If you're going to post this much, people are going to be forced to ignore you. And I know you love yourself way to much to let that happen.

So how about we tone it down a bit karn, eh? Here's a tip on the cheap:
1) Write up your post.
2) Go read something for 5 minutes
3) Come back and read your post
4) Make your decision about whether that's something worth saying.

A lil' "look before you leap" can help you maintain your thinning veneer of legitimacy until the election actually happens. And that's where the REAL attention whoring can happen. Blow your load now and you better have a handful of seasoned alts to work with, or I'm afraid you're gonna be really damned bored come November.

Just sayin'.


Thank you, Mr Moderator....you seem to be quite the fan of hearing yourself drone on.


You can go ahead and ignore the warning. But you're gonna have to work extra special hard come september, and while I'm sure you've got the work ethic, I'm not sure there's enough time in the day.

Let not the lessons of our Trollfathers go unlearnt! Heed the hard-won warnings of the past! Skook not, lest ye become the father of Skookums! Turn to the light.
 
2012-06-15 04:30:20 PM
BeesNuts

karnal: BeesNuts

karnal: cameroncrazy1984


karnal: Trapper439

Get back to me when a Republican has delivered a better speech, subby.

Hell, get back to me when a Republican delivers a speech in which they detail an actual alternative policy position.

I've heard that both sides are bad, but that argument for voting Republican doesn't convince me.


Some people are just a lost cause.

Yes you are.

[www.thevictoryformation.com image 416x600]

You know. If you're going to post this much, people are going to be forced to ignore you. And I know you love yourself way to much to let that happen.

So how about we tone it down a bit karn, eh? Here's a tip on the cheap:
1) Write up your post.
2) Go read something for 5 minutes
3) Come back and read your post
4) Make your decision about whether that's something worth saying.

A lil' "look before you leap" can help you maintain your thinning veneer of legitimacy until the election actually happens. And that's where the REAL attention whoring can happen. Blow your load now and you better have a handful of seasoned alts to work with, or I'm afraid you're gonna be really damned bored come November.

Just sayin'.


Thank you, Mr Moderator....you seem to be quite the fan of hearing yourself drone on.

You can go ahead and ignore the warning. But you're gonna have to work extra special hard come september, and while I'm sure you've got the work ethic, I'm not sure there's enough time in the day.

Let not the lessons of our Trollfathers go unlearnt! Heed the hard-won warnings of the past! Skook not, lest ye become the father of Skookums! Turn to the light.



It's almost like you are speaking in a whole different language.
 
2012-06-15 04:43:38 PM

unexplained bacon: This sounds like the sort of stuff Sean Hannity's balls whisper to each other after he falls asleep

/ but how's your girl Hillary doing?


Just listen to how silly you sound believing that Sean Hannity has balls.

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2012-06-15 04:54:03 PM
~800K people can now get jobs. What does this do for the jobs number between now and November? Let's assume 20% of these people were working under the table and another 20% would have taken jobs if they would have been allowed to. That's 320,000 potential new jobs. Might be high but I think 100K to 200K of new jobs is realistic (including small businesses getting started as well).
 
2012-06-16 09:27:46 AM

mrshowrules: ~800K people can now get jobs. What does this do for the jobs number between now and November? Let's assume 20% of these people were working under the table and another 20% would have taken jobs if they would have been allowed to. That's 320,000 potential new jobs. Might be high but I think 100K to 200K of new jobs is realistic (including small businesses getting started as well).

 
2012-06-16 09:36:20 AM
Unfetchable image links.... anyway, my response to you is here.
 
2012-06-16 02:33:23 PM

tony41454: MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-06-14 10:36:57 PM
In before some f*cktard claims Obama gets a pass from the media

tony41454 Smartest Funniest 2012-06-15 06:34:17 AM
(favorite: Attack! One pump Tony)

Actually he does get a pass. Do you ever hear about Fast and Furious? Solyndra? his early participation in a college communist group? his cocaine use? the leaks of classified info from the WH to help O's election champaign? No, didn't think so. But you DO hear about Romney's high school jinks 30 years ago or Nixon forty years ago, yeah. Why don't Woodword and Bernstein do some REAL reporting and go after the Obama administration--the most corrupt administration in history, with Eric "I will not prosecute MY people" Holder.

 
2012-06-17 12:36:13 AM
The problem with this speech, whatever you think of his politics, has nothing to do with the content of his speech. The problem is that he thinks he can fix problems and make an impact with a "big", "important" speech - even after three years of being in office. This means one of two things. Either he and his team have bought into all of the crap that the sycophants and Obama fanboys say about him, that he is such a great orator and he's a transformational leader, or it means that he is a one trick pony. All he has is a speech. That's the only tool in his toolbox. He seems to like to give speeches/lectures about his version of anything and everything except for meaningful proposals on how to actually solve problems and make it happen. Let's think about it for a second...What problems has he actually solved? Even "Obamacare" was really an invention of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi after the single payer system preferred by Obama was shot down. It seems as though everything this administration has pushed has not had the political savy, the will, or even passed the test of common sense to make any dent on reality. Cap and trade? No. The tax code? Nein. Every budget from the administration? Nyet. The debt limit debacle? In the end, In Absentia. Transparency? Racial Harmony? Same ol' same ol'. The seas? Not receding. Now, I personally think he is wrong on almost every issue, but for liberals it must be starting to get incredibly frustrating that this man who was supposed to be smarter than all of us and was voted for almost entirely on faith has proven to be completely ineffective.

For the most part what we are seeing following this speech is not the media finally performing their journalistic duties but a media, and the rest of the liberal world, that is slowly growing tired of carrying his water and making excuses for him. If you look at the comments its all constructive criticism or things they'd like to see. "It's too long". "We've all heard this before". "There weren't any good soundbites". They sound like a bunch of movie geeks upset that the sequel wasn't as good as the original. So in summary, this is just the media's way of telling the president to kick it into gear, write better speeches, and maybe even...accomplish something, else we will have a Romney Presidency.
 
2012-06-17 03:09:03 AM

fublius: The problem is that he thinks he can fix problems and make an impact with a "big", "important" speech - even after three years of being in office


Citation please.

Difficulty: the fact that he made a speech doesn't imply that he thinks said speech will fix problems.


The rest of your post was pretty much whargarble.
 
2012-06-17 11:39:34 AM

Sabyen91: Kevin72: Sabyen91: IlGreven: They only keep Maddow on because of the huge discrimination lawsuit they'd get if they fire her.

What does this mean?

It means that somehow IlGreven either never noticed how cute, clever, hard-hitting without it being noticed, and on and on about how wonderful Rachel Maddow is. Or he demonstrated Poe's Law to us.

I don't watch any of the pundit shows but Maddow is very intelligent and well-informed (know this from her old radio show).

/Oh...that is why Il Greven doesn't like her.


It ain't Maddow I don't like. It's the "libruls" that run MSNBC.
 
2012-06-17 12:42:45 PM
IlGreven that makes even lesss sense. Why in the world would the librul management even consider firing Rachel Maddow? I'm calling a Poe's Law troll again.
 
2012-06-18 12:10:03 AM

Smackledorfer: fublius: The problem is that he thinks he can fix problems and make an impact with a "big", "important" speech - even after three years of being in office

Citation please.

Difficulty: the fact that he made a speech doesn't imply that he thinks said speech will fix problems.


Frankly, his motives aren't important. Maybe he's that naive and maybe he's not. The important point is that we all know that he's not going to follow with any action. He will never do the politically uncomfortable things that need to be done to actually get things done. That knowledge makes any speech he gives from here on out hollow and decidedly unimportant. When it gets to the point where the president can't give a speech that anyone will take seriously makes him all the more an ineffective leader. Whargarble or not, you KNOW that a serious legislative proposal is NOT forth coming.
 
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