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(CBC)   Pure ecstasy can be 'safe' for adults, says health official. Also this velvet cushion feels sooooo nice. Have I ever told you what a great kisser you are? God please rub my feet again just like that   (cbc.ca) divider line 108
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2012-06-14 04:51:20 PM
TNSTAAFL, dumbass.
 
2012-06-14 04:52:14 PM
The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.
 
2012-06-14 04:55:56 PM
I still prefer pure methamphetamine or dextroamphetamine
 
2012-06-14 05:03:18 PM
So meth is like diet pills?
 
2012-06-14 05:17:14 PM

downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.


Sounds about the same as sugar.
 
2012-06-14 05:21:48 PM
And this is why it should be legalized, so that it can be regulated. People are going to use no matter what, so why not make it where your populace doesn't have to take a chance of killing themselves just to get high?
 
2012-06-14 05:24:20 PM

timujin: And this is why it should be legalized, so that it can be regulated. People are going to use no matter what, so why not make it where your populace doesn't have to take a chance of killing themselves just to get high?


Because the Government should be used as a tool to improve people's lives, and letting them get high may lead to dehydration and may result in damage to others property or personhood. Or, because the Government should be used as a tool to ensure that social rules are enforced, and to place morality at the top of the list of importance.
 
2012-06-14 05:28:56 PM

ShawnDoc: downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.

Sounds about the same as sugar.


Yeah, which is why I eat/drink very, very little sugar
 
2012-06-14 05:46:43 PM

downstairs: How about.... no.


Most people I know who enjoy ecstasy regularly also have a very steady relationship with serotonin precursors like 5-HTP. YMMV.
 
2012-06-14 05:48:47 PM
Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.
 
2012-06-14 05:51:22 PM
I've never taken E, but I've been around people who have. And if taking E means begging every carbon-based lifeform in your current zip code to make out with you, and then giving up and humping the couch with heavy-lidded moans when they all refuse, I'll go ahead and pass, thanks.
 
2012-06-14 05:53:44 PM

vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.


This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.
 
2012-06-14 06:13:27 PM

Communist_Manifesto: vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.

This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.


Yes, if it's a pressed pill, you're definitely getting something else with that MDMA.
 
2012-06-14 06:46:12 PM

downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.


What it means in practice is feeling slightly irritable and having trouble falling asleep. Sort of like if you've had a bit too much coffee.
 
2012-06-14 06:47:44 PM
see that's why I switch to bath salts
 
2012-06-14 06:50:38 PM

MaxxLarge: I've never taken E, but I've been around people who have. And if taking E means begging every carbon-based lifeform in your current zip code to make out with you, and then giving up and humping the couch with heavy-lidded moans when they all refuse, I'll go ahead and pass, thanks.


I usually prefer listening to various kinds of music, or playing certain kinds of video games. I also love walking around outside. I wouldn't suggest hiking up a mountain, but long walks in the woods on a cool night can be pretty awesome.

I haven't touched the stuff in years, though. I wouldn't even know where to get it or who to do it with nowadays.
 
2012-06-14 06:52:54 PM
Soooo... can I put ecstasy on my Coke?
 
2012-06-14 07:01:52 PM
I experienced pure ecstasy once. Turned me into an Irish Vampire.
 
2012-06-14 07:40:50 PM

Solid Muldoon: I experienced pure ecstasy once. Turned me into an Irish Vampire.


So... you sucked on some potatoes?
 
2012-06-14 07:42:33 PM

MaxxLarge: I've never taken E, but I've been around people who have. And if taking E means begging every carbon-based lifeform in your current zip code to make out with you, and then giving up and humping the couch with heavy-lidded moans when they all refuse, I'll go ahead and pass, thanks.


Wow, you are NO fun at parties Maxx.

Furniture humping is much better than arguing about stupid shiat, acting like an idiot, puking, and passing out over the toilet.

Pros: It's not physically addictive and costs less than two drink at a good bar or movie tickets, while lasting 3-6 hours.

Cons: You may actually like rave music while on it. *shudder*
 
2012-06-14 07:44:18 PM
I was a teenager in Scotland during the 90's, so you know I've danced to bad house. I'm off to listen to Ebenezer Goode again. It's been a while.
 
2012-06-14 07:46:01 PM
hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


thedea.org
 
2012-06-14 07:46:13 PM

downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.


This is why I stick to booze and tobacco and Twinkies.
 
2012-06-14 08:14:52 PM

Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]


Where is alcohol on that list and 110k for marijuana, lolwut?
 
2012-06-14 08:23:12 PM

Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]


That chart strikes me as suspect. I looked at the page (a pro-MDMA site) and couldn't find where those numbers came from. Is it a whole 'People who ended up in an emergency room and got tested for whatever reason had this in their blood'?

Then, yes, I would aspirin to show up more often then MDMA.
 
2012-06-14 08:35:29 PM
The main risk with ecstasy is dehydration. Mixed with beer and you're looking at trouble. Of course, long-term brain damage is also a risk, as is long-term brain damage.
 
2012-06-14 08:36:18 PM

r1niceboy: I was a teenager in Scotland during the 90's, so you know I've danced to bad house. I'm off to listen to Ebenezer Goode again. It's been a while.


aw c'mon... the stuff The Shamen released before that awful crap was pretty good
 
2012-06-14 08:46:53 PM

wildcardjack: downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.

This is why I stick to booze and tobacco and Twinkies.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2012-06-14 08:59:26 PM

American Decency Association: r1niceboy: I was a teenager in Scotland during the 90's, so you know I've danced to bad house. I'm off to listen to Ebenezer Goode again. It's been a while.

aw c'mon... the stuff The Shamen released before that awful crap was pretty good


I was pure dead off my bean for most of those years, so I'll have to take your word for it.
 
2012-06-14 09:01:59 PM
Meh, everything in moderation.

/you should try it at least once

//some of that 'rave' music is pretty good with or without chemical enhancements

///some of it sucks
 
2012-06-14 09:12:15 PM
loldrugs.com
 
2012-06-14 09:25:26 PM

Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]


You do know that those numbers don't represent comparative drug safety, right?
 
2012-06-14 09:33:18 PM

Aamelrons: Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]

Where is alcohol on that list and 110k for marijuana, lolwut?


The list is only of illegally used drugs, not legal ones. People go to the ER for caffeine-related symptoms, too, but that's not on the list either. (The chart isn't clear on this, but based on those omissions I'm going to guess it also omits prescribed use of controlled substances, or else it's totally bullshiat.)

The high numbers for pot are because there are a lot more pot users than users of most of the other drugs. Think about how many people you know who smoke pot, versus how many shoot up. It's got nothing to do with comparative risk related to the drugs themselves. Even small percentages of pot users going to ER will result in high numbers compared to the much smaller number of junkies ripped out on smack. It's the same reason you'd see much higher numbers for auto accident victims than for lighting strikes -- it's not because cars are more dangerous than lightning.

Finally, the chart only counts visits. It offers no clue to how serious these visits were compared to each other.
 
2012-06-14 09:35:53 PM
To clarify, what I meant was nonprescribed use or use other than as directed. You can totally screw yourself up on all kinds of legal drugs (Rx and OTC both) if you don't use them they way you're supposed to. Obviously, a lot of these drugs are legal, in one way or another. But any drug can hurt you if you use it wrong.
 
2012-06-14 09:36:53 PM

r1niceboy: The main risk with ecstasy is dehydration. Mixed with beer and you're looking at trouble. Of course, long-term brain damage is also a risk, as is long-term brain damage.


I hear long-term brain damage is also a risk.
 
2012-06-14 09:37:21 PM

Historyteller: Furniture humping is much better than arguing about stupid shiat, acting like an idiot, puking, and passing out over the toilet.


Either way you go, it's still all humorous to me if I get to watch.
 
2012-06-14 09:38:02 PM

downstairs: The drug's letdown can include feelings of confusion, irritability, anxiety, paranoia and depression, and people may experience memory loss or sleep problems, jaundice or liver damage.

How about.... no.


I done it plenty and never experienced any of that.


Solid Muldoon: I experienced pure ecstasy once. Turned me into an Irish Vampire.


www.comicbookmovie.com

That's quite a side effect.
 
2012-06-14 09:40:39 PM

Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]


Wat? Why would so many people be going to the ER because of pot!?? This makes no sense.

The My Little Pony Killer: Communist_Manifesto: vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.

This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.

Yes, if it's a pressed pill, you're definitely getting something else with that MDMA.


As opposed to what, that would indicate that you ARE getting "real e"?
 
2012-06-14 09:48:15 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: r1niceboy: The main risk with ecstasy is dehydration. Mixed with beer and you're looking at trouble. Of course, long-term brain damage is also a risk, as is long-term brain damage.

I hear long-term brain damage is also a risk.


But ... will it have long term negative effects on my brain, like permanent damage?
 
2012-06-14 10:00:32 PM

Aamelrons: Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]

Where is alcohol on that list and 110k for marijuana, lolwut?


I could see it.

"Duuuude, I want some Doritos so bad I think I have to go to the hospital"
 
2012-06-14 10:02:29 PM

Communist_Manifesto: vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.

This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.


Especially if you buy it from that woman who was in Dawn of the Dead.
 
2012-06-14 10:08:27 PM

Historyteller: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: r1niceboy: The main risk with ecstasy is dehydration. Mixed with beer and you're looking at trouble. Of course, long-term brain damage is also a risk, as is long-term brain damage.

I hear long-term brain damage is also a risk.

But ... will it have long term negative effects on my brain, like permanent damage?


Good question. I'll try to research it.
 
2012-06-14 10:11:05 PM

xanadian: Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]

Wat? Why would so many people be going to the ER because of pot!?? This makes no sense.

The My Little Pony Killer: Communist_Manifesto: vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.

This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.

Yes, if it's a pressed pill, you're definitely getting something else with that MDMA.

As opposed to what, that would indicate that you ARE getting "real e"?


You buy testing kits. I was going after pills because they are cut with at least a binder (and probably caffeine or some other light stimulant), e is a powder normally.
 
2012-06-14 10:21:45 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Aamelrons: Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]

Where is alcohol on that list and 110k for marijuana, lolwut?

The list is only of illegally used drugs, not legal ones. People go to the ER for caffeine-related symptoms, too, but that's not on the list either. (The chart isn't clear on this, but based on those omissions I'm going to guess it also omits prescribed use of controlled substances, or else it's totally bullshiat.)

The high numbers for pot are because there are a lot more pot users than users of most of the other drugs. Think about how many people you know who smoke pot, versus how many shoot up. It's got nothing to do with comparative risk related to the drugs themselves. Even small percentages of pot users going to ER will result in high numbers compared to the much smaller number of junkies ripped out on smack. It's the same reason you'd see much higher numbers for auto accident victims than for lighting strikes -- it's not because cars are more dangerous than lightning.

Finally, the chart only counts visits. It offers no clue to how serious these visits were compared to each other.



So basically the chart is pretty much useless for any serious consideration. Nice to know.
 
2012-06-14 10:29:21 PM
Sex on ecstasy is one of the most fantastic things I've ever experienced.

Incredibly hot late 20's dude that I'd just started going out with a month earlier.

I've tried to write something intelligent here that describes how I felt with him, but I can't do it.

"The best"
 
2012-06-14 10:43:58 PM

Solid Muldoon: I experienced pure ecstasy once. Turned me into an Irish Vampire.

 
2012-06-14 10:44:13 PM

Communist_Manifesto: xanadian: Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]

Wat? Why would so many people be going to the ER because of pot!?? This makes no sense.

The My Little Pony Killer: Communist_Manifesto: vernonFL: Pure MDMA is usually NOT what you get when you buy drugs at nightclubs or at concerts.

This. If you're buy pills of e with cutesy logos on them, you're probably not getting real e.

Yes, if it's a pressed pill, you're definitely getting something else with that MDMA.

As opposed to what, that would indicate that you ARE getting "real e"?

You buy testing kits. I was going after pills because they are cut with at least a binder (and probably caffeine or some other light stimulant), e is a powder normally.


heh. I could see myself going to a club, having someone say, "hey, man, try this 'e.''" And then I whip out this chemistry set and say, "Lemme check to make sure this is legit."

I would, of course, store this chemistry set in my anus.

/knowing it's normally a powder is useful
 
2012-06-14 10:46:42 PM

Kanemano: hundreds of millions of past and present users. agree


[thedea.org image 640x334]


Placement on that chart means nothing. Look at the positions of GHB and Marijuana on the chart. GHB is crazy addictive and when mixed with any other depressants a good way to kill yourself. Marijuana is virtually as safe as inhaling smoke is going to get.
 
2012-06-14 10:53:24 PM

studebaker hoch: Sex on ecstasy is one of the most fantastic things I've ever experienced.

Incredibly hot late 20's dude that I'd just started going out with a month earlier.

I've tried to write something intelligent here that describes how I felt with him, but I can't do it.

"The best"


farking on regular amphetamines is much better. An increase of serotonin makes it difficult to climax, but all an increase of dopamine does is making it harder to get it up.

Go for regular amphetamines. Trust me, you'll like it better
 
2012-06-14 10:54:54 PM
I always thought people who did X were too weird.

Besides, I tend to dislike people and being around them.

I'll stick with good ol, caffeine, weed, alcohol, LSD, & shrooms. They're all natural and less addictive than anything in pill form.
 
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