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(Wired)   The latest version of the Army's M1 Abrams tanks is an utter, complete cupcake   (wired.com) divider line 132
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2012-06-14 09:25:54 PM  

Rozinante: intelligent comment below: Rozinante: I have two degrees. I went to university straight out of high school. I'm pretty sure I don't live in the same country as you, but I've wasted millions of your tax dollars just the same.


So then you admit to just trolling me with your useless anecdote not relevant to American government scientific funding.

I guarantee you that I have spent American government scientific funding.



False. I worked at a research lab that used more NIH funding in a year than you in your entire worthless career
 
2012-06-14 09:26:36 PM  

Nerdhurter: intelligent comment below

You got it figured out bro, that's why your troll list is 30,000 names long. Anybody that doesn't think exactly the way you do must just be trying to get under your skin. After all you're the intelligent comment below a beast on comments, they obviously can't argue with you so they just try to troll you all day. Glad you've got it figured out.



I kindly listed right wing trolls who ruin fark with their knee jerk ignorant nonsense. Do you want to make the list too?
 
2012-06-14 09:28:09 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: intelligent comment below: common sense is an oxymoron: Yup. It takes competition to drive evolution.


government research handouts are NOT competition

What is the motivation for the government to hand out research grants in the first place?




That's a stupid question that cannot be answered easily because there are so many answers. But it has nothing to do with competition and "the market"

If it was about competition then the government wouldn't fund research in the first place. They'd let the magical free market do it for them.
 
2012-06-14 09:38:45 PM  

intelligent comment below: Nerdhurter: intelligent comment below

You got it figured out bro, that's why your troll list is 30,000 names long. Anybody that doesn't think exactly the way you do must just be trying to get under your skin. After all you're the intelligent comment below a beast on comments, they obviously can't argue with you so they just try to troll you all day. Glad you've got it figured out.


I kindly listed right wing trolls who ruin fark with their knee jerk ignorant nonsense. Do you want to make the list too?


Please don't sir, you have so much knowledge to offer, of course all of said knowledge is what you regurgitate from whatever left wing echo chambers in which you spend your time, since you obviously can't put forth coherent arguments against anyone who disagrees with you, and instead choose to just ignore anyone who doesn't spout the same drivel you take for divine truth. So please don't block me, the thought of missing out on your one viewpoint, rabidly blindered arguments breaks my heart.
 
2012-06-14 09:42:43 PM  

intelligent comment below: common sense is an oxymoron: intelligent comment below: common sense is an oxymoron: Yup. It takes competition to drive evolution.


government research handouts are NOT competition

What is the motivation for the government to hand out research grants in the first place?



That's a stupid question that cannot be answered easily because there are so many answers. But it has nothing to do with competition and "the market"

If it was about competition then the government wouldn't fund research in the first place. They'd let the magical free market do it for them.


If China/Iran/North Korea were to deploy a weapon against which we have no defense, we would certainly let the free market decide the outcome. True?

And you brought up "the market," not I. I was trying to compare technological advancement to biological evolution in the narrow sense that neither would take place without some motivating factor such as (not necessarily limited to) competition from other species/nations.
 
2012-06-14 09:49:44 PM  
I saw ponies
fc09.deviantart.net
ponibooru.413chan.net


I'm got to allow this
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-14 09:50:56 PM  
"Not particurly useful against insurgencies".


/an oldie
//but goodie
 
2012-06-14 09:55:05 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: If China/Iran/North Korea were to deploy a weapon against which we have no defense, we would certainly let the free market decide the outcome. True?


Stop building a strawman, it's getting boring.

common sense is an oxymoron: And you brought up "the market," not I. I was trying to compare technological advancement to biological evolution in the narrow sense that neither would take place without some motivating factor such as (not necessarily limited to) competition from other species/nations.


I didn't bring up the market, you did. Competition spurring innovation is not what government research is about. Government research is about throwing money at everything and seeing what comes out of it. You seem to be confused with defense contractors building a "weapon" to counter China with generic research of new technology just for the hell of it.
 
2012-06-14 10:03:33 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-06-14 10:12:30 PM  

intelligent comment below: I guarantee you that I have spent American government scientific funding.

False. I worked at a research lab that used more NIH funding in a year than you in your entire worthless career


That's not what I said. I'm not going to adress you anymore if you're going to keep making things up. Someone who has a "troll list" that includes people that haven't been around since their account was created is more than likely an alt of an alt troll account.
 
2012-06-14 10:18:37 PM  

RoyBatty: bdub77: In before people complain about taxpayer money. This is a fun story, a quick boost for morale, wasn't all that expensive when you compare it to other things the army spends on. Like that, for example, a single drone missile costs $70000.

Very cool stuff.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.


Yep. Because everybody who is cold and not clothed or hungry and not fed would not be that way had we not spent the money on military matters.

This post was brought to you on the Internet, from a smart phone with built-in GPS, made of high-impact plastic.

It occurs to me that long before we were a hyper-militaristic society we still had starving, indigent and homeless people. I wonder what the rationale was then?

Additionally, every government contract, be it for guns or butter, employs people at a good wage, who in turn return some of that wage in the form of taxes. That's not even to mention the corporate taxes that companies pay.
 
2012-06-14 10:23:47 PM  
The main gun and target aquisition system of our tank is German. It was designed and developed by Rheinmettal.

Think about that. What are we really celebrating here? Hitler?
 
2012-06-14 10:36:15 PM  

Jument: Greenbeanx: Why the hell does every thread turn into a bronie thread..not even related..Haven't we had enough misery *sniff*

Give the meme six months to die. Or else go on killing spree.


Fark Rustled the brony-jimmies, so now it's apparently troll season to annoy people. This too shall pass.
 
2012-06-14 10:43:10 PM  

Onkel Buck: [i105.photobucket.com image 640x426]
Check out the movie The Pentagon Wars about the fight to get this beauty into the military toybox

/MOS 27E. I worked on the TOW Missile system used on this vehicle.


So, we've got a troop carrier that doesn't carry troops, a recon vehicle that's too conspicuous to do recon work, it's got less armor than a snowblower, but it's got enough firepower to wipe out half of D.C. THIS is what we're building?
 
2012-06-14 10:46:14 PM  

LasersHurt: Jument: Greenbeanx: Why the hell does every thread turn into a bronie thread..not even related..Haven't we had enough misery *sniff*

Give the meme six months to die. Or else go on killing spree.

Fark Rustled the brony-jimmies, so now it's apparently troll season to annoy people. This too shall pass.


We need to bring back the HA HA! Guy.
 
2012-06-14 10:54:43 PM  

intelligent comment below: common sense is an oxymoron: If China/Iran/North Korea were to deploy a weapon against which we have no defense, we would certainly let the free market decide the outcome. True?

Stop building a strawman, it's getting boring.


What strawman? In your own words: "If it was about competition then the government wouldn't fund research in the first place. They'd let the magical free market do it for them." You chose to ignore (or simply didn't understand) my using the word "competition" in terms of evolution: Different nation-states are in competition with each other for...whatever; and, like organisms, they develop various offensive and defensive mechanisms to outcompete the other guys.

common sense is an oxymoron: And you brought up "the market," not I. I was trying to compare technological advancement to biological evolution in the narrow sense that neither would take place without some motivating factor such as (not necessarily limited to) competition from other species/nations.

I didn't bring up the market, you did. Competition spurring innovation is not what government research is about. Government research is about throwing money at everything and seeing what comes out of it. You seem to be confused with defense contractors building a "weapon" to counter China with generic research of new technology just for the hell of it.


I'm quite aware of research for the sake of knowledge and nothing more. I'm also quite aware that government funding for such research is dwarfed by government funding for research focused on threats to the government, from whatever source, whether real or imagined.

Defense contractors building a weapon (under government contract, as opposed to just for the fun of it) to counter China is analogous to a predatory/prey species evolving a new trait to counter the latest developments in prey defenses/predator attacks (take your pick). What this has to do with free-market competition is something you haven't explained.
 
2012-06-14 10:56:19 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/Wut?
//It's not ponies : )
/Although they're sorta cute ; )
 
2012-06-14 11:17:03 PM  
I detest the incorrect use of the word "Decimated."
 
2012-06-14 11:28:05 PM  
You really want to feed the homeless? Here's a great idea!

Steal a cupcake, box of donuts, McDonalds hamburgers, whatever, from the most obese person you see and run for it. Give it to the nearest bum on the street corner.

1. The hungry homeless will get to eat
2. Fatty McLardass gets some exercise if they chase you (and they'll try)
3. YOU get some exercise

Everyone should do their part to feed the homeless and fight obesity. Why, I stole two boxes of Dunkin Donuts Munchkins from a 350 lb whaleasaurus just last week. She chased me for 40 whole feet!
 
2012-06-14 11:30:09 PM  

baronbloodbath: You really want to feed the homeless? Here's a great idea!

Steal a cupcake, box of donuts, McDonalds hamburgers, whatever, from the most obese person you see and run for it. Give it to the nearest bum on the street corner.

1. The hungry homeless will get to eat
2. Fatty McLardass gets some exercise if they chase you (and they'll try)
3. YOU get some exercise

Everyone should do their part to feed the homeless and fight obesity. Why, I stole two boxes of Dunkin Donuts Munchkins from a 350 lb whaleasaurus just last week. She chased me for 40 whole feet!


Genius, you go first let me know how that works out : )
 
2012-06-14 11:31:21 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: RoyBatty: bdub77: In before people complain about taxpayer money. This is a fun story, a quick boost for morale, wasn't all that expensive when you compare it to other things the army spends on. Like that, for example, a single drone missile costs $70000.

Very cool stuff.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

Yep. Because everybody who is cold and not clothed or hungry and not fed would not be that way had we not spent the money on military matters.

This post was brought to you on the Internet, from a smart phone with built-in GPS, made of high-impact plastic.

It occurs to me that long before we were a hyper-militaristic society we still had starving, indigent and homeless people. I wonder what the rationale was then?

Additionally, every government contract, be it for guns or butter, employs people at a good wage, who in turn return some of that wage in the form of taxes. That's not even to mention the corporate taxes that companies pay.


The 'tax dodgers' of the defense industry

The biggest companies in the defense game paid an average of less than half the U.S. corporate tax rate over the past three years, according to a muckraking new report by populist D.C. tax watchdogs.

In fact, in their study, the Citizens for Tax Justice and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy wrote that a few brand-name defense giants paid no taxes at all. Their statistics detail the incredible closeness of the federal government and its big vendors, which benefit not only from big-ticket defense programs but a galaxy of special provisions in the tax code.

In 2010, for example, General Electric, Honeywell, Navistar and Boeing paid no tax or even made money from federal protections or subsidies, according to the report. Boeing's "effective tax rate," as calculated by the report authors, was -1.8 percent from 2008 to 2010. Honeywell's was -0.7 percent.


Most of the big defense contractors did pay some taxes, although at rates below the standard corporate 35 percent, the report said. From 2008 to 2010, the top 10 companies' rate averaged about 15.3 percent; the defense industry overall paid at about a 17 percent rate.


As for my original quote, that actually was said by President Eisenhower in 1953 in his Cross of Iron speech.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms in not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

These plain and cruel truths define the peril and point the hope that come with this spring of 1953.
 
2012-06-14 11:45:54 PM  
www.jimpoz.com
 
2012-06-15 03:52:29 AM  
I don't think this will be very effective in dessert warfare.
 
2012-06-15 04:55:16 AM  
intelligent comment below: False. I worked at a research lab that used more NIH funding in a year than you in your entire worthless career

[Citation Needed].

I bet you also managed to make it to the gym in your porsche in less than 26 minutes, too. Wife-like typing detected.

Nerdhurter: Please don't sir, you have so much knowledge to offer, of course all of said knowledge is what you regurgitate from whatever left wing echo chambers in which you spend your time, since you obviously can't put forth coherent arguments against anyone who disagrees with you, and instead choose to just ignore anyone who doesn't spout the same drivel you take for divine truth. So please don't block me, the thought of missing out on your one viewpoint, rabidly blindered arguments breaks my heart.

You have to understand something about intelligent comment below. You see, unless you agree exactly with his statements on the truth about our fairy world THEY don't want you to know, 100%, you're not a liberal, independent, or even a political moderate. You're a right winged, 100% neoconservative jingoist who wants to bomb brown babies for oil. You might as well have been executing little babies in Afganistan.He also ignores anyone who doesn't share this belief, only to magically respond to them 10 posts down. (Apparently his ignore doesn't work.)
 
2012-06-15 07:08:36 AM  
I'm using a pic of Dempsey shooting cupcakes at people as a placeholder image for all the Army design stuff I do. It's awesome.
 
2012-06-15 09:18:09 AM  
I'm drinking wine and eating cupcakes, and catching some rays, you know.

i406.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-15 09:35:35 AM  
i82.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-15 11:41:46 AM  
bdub77: In before people complain about taxpayer money. This is a fun story, a quick boost for morale, wasn't all that expensive when you compare it to other things the army spends on. Like that, for example, a single drone missile costs $70000.

Very cool stuff.

wow that is some excellent justification my friend! you are absolutely correct! wasting taxpayer money on things like this is fine, because its only a LITTLE taxpayer money! cuz i guess a cupcake tank is much better than, like, oh, worrying about new bridges or roads or anything like that. Also, you get to waste a ton of food! america, and it grand?
 
2012-06-15 12:23:33 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: It's idealistic, not-of-this-world statements like this that make liberals look silly.


Yep, only liberals have a problem with our military-industrial complex. Just liberals. Nobody else has a problem worshipping at the altar of massive, neverending government spending as long as it's for the military.

Oh, wait.

Having said that, a cupcake tank that fires cupcakes is freaking awesome.
 
2012-06-15 01:40:22 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-06-15 05:47:59 PM  

theMightyRegeya: common sense is an oxymoron: It's idealistic, not-of-this-world statements like this that make liberals look silly.

Yep, only liberals have a problem with our military-industrial complex. Just liberals. Nobody else has a problem worshipping at the altar of massive, neverending government spending as long as it's for the military.

Oh, wait.

Having said that, a cupcake tank that fires cupcakes is freaking awesome.


Did you even read what I was responding to? Someone thought the cupcake tank was "cool," and got this back: "Nothing about the military is "cool" at all. Stop worshiping death and destruction." I interpreted that as your typical "all military activity, ever, is EVIL" piece of naive pacifist nonthought. I tried to make clear that misuse of the military is a very real problem (as is the military-industrial complex), but that simplistic exaggerations like this help no one. My bad if I failed.

And yeah, a cupcake tank that fires cupcakes IS cool.

/cupcakes
 
2012-06-16 07:48:42 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
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