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(Cracked)   "I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you Fark with me, I'll kill you all." Just one of the six most bad-ass things said by a soldier just before killing people   (cracked.com) divider line 184
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2012-06-15 12:09:54 AM
Strangely absent is: "How dare you try to defend your family from a foreign invading army."
 
2012-06-15 12:14:17 AM
One of my favorite military quotes was a story I read some years ago and cant remember the specifics. I seem to remember it was a Byzantine Emperior telling the turks leave our territory (or something like that) or else, now give me your answer. The turks responded "You will not hear our answer, you will see it"

My other favorite story was from roman history. The roman consul confronted Antiochus IV about his attack on egypt and told him basically get out, now. The King said well, he'd need to study and consider this before he made such a decision. The Consul drew circle in the sand around Antiochus and told him "Give me your answer before you leave that circle". Sheer roman brass balls.
 
2012-06-15 12:20:05 AM

Delay: This text is now purple: Japan was never a threat to invade the United States.

When I take walks along the Marin Headlands I see bunker after bunker built to respond to the anticipated Japanese attack on the US. Did it ever happen? Well, there was that incident on December 7, 1941 when Japan attacked the US Naval Base at Pearl Harbor in an attempt to destroy the entire Pacific fleet. Perhaps you have been home schooled?


No, Japan had no way to establish or maintain supply lines to the mainland, and they knew it. BTW, Pearl Harbor was not part of the US, and according to the universally accepted rules of war, the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified (google: flying tigers).
 
2012-06-15 12:25:33 AM
Wow. Lots of murderer-worship in this thread.
 
2012-06-15 12:30:37 AM

DrPainMD: Wow. Lots of murderer-worship in this thread.



Yeah, tell me about it



DrPainMD: according to the universally accepted rules of war, the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified

 
2012-06-15 12:39:50 AM
you all are slipping.

"my name is inigo montoya...."
 
2012-06-15 12:53:50 AM
Surprised I didn't this posted. Fark, y'all be slipping:

Henry V: St. Crispin's day speech

Yeah I know it's not true to life but it's still awesome.
 
2012-06-15 12:54:06 AM
"Stay on the bomb run, boys! I'm gonna get them doors open if it harelips everybody on Bear Creek!"
Major T.J. "King" Kong
 
2012-06-15 12:54:31 AM

ranchguy: you all are slipping.

"my name is inigo montoya...."


No...

"Say hello to my little friend"
 
2012-06-15 12:55:51 AM
Also, this:

don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
 
2012-06-15 01:11:25 AM
thread wouldn't be complete without this one
upload.wikimedia.org

"COME AND GET THEM!"
 
2012-06-15 01:43:52 AM

cynep: Also, this:

don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.


Please leave a message after the beep.

/laughed so hard when I saw that on Graham Norton
 
2012-06-15 02:39:51 AM

One Bad Apple: DrPainMD: Wow. Lots of murderer-worship in this thread.


Yeah, tell me about it



DrPainMD: according to the universally accepted rules of war, the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified


I never said that I approved of it; attack by the US was imminent, therefor it was justified.
 
2012-06-15 04:15:11 AM
www.mrdisproportionateresponse.com
 
2012-06-15 04:53:19 AM

slotz: Would like a word.
[basementrejects.com image 406x270]


FWIW, what he quotes isn't actually Ezekiel 25:17.
 
2012-06-15 06:54:30 AM
DrPainMD: I never said that I approved of it; attack by the US was imminent, therefor it was justified.

You do realize that the majority of the nation at the time wanted NO PART of World War II, right? There was a huge isolationist sentiment in the United States, having just come out of the great depression, and remembering the atrocity that was the Great War less than 20 years earlier. The only reason the United States cut the supply of oil and raw material to Japan was because of their shenanigans in Asia at the time, and the view that the Japanese were pursuing aggressive war in violation of the Treaty of Versailles.

There was no "imminent attack" on the home islands. Even Yamamoto himself warned the Emperor that attacking the United States was a stupid thing to do given their position at the time.
 
2012-06-15 07:50:38 AM

Delay: Too bad American high school students ignore Admiral Halsey. Why is that


FTFY.

Never heard of him until I got to college. And only then because I had a US Naval History class.
 
2012-06-15 08:12:43 AM

SmackLT: "Hans...are we the baddies?"


I *LOVE* that skit.
 
2012-06-15 08:51:18 AM

relcec: we were reading their mail


This is one factor that doesn't really get the credit it should. For the most part, we *PWNED* Japan in the Pacific largely because we knew where they were expecting us to attack, so we attacked elsewhere, and we knew where they were going to attack, so we could meet them effectively.

One example of this that almost never gets mentioned is that because we could read their merchant ship routing radio traffic, we knew where to place our relatively limited submarine force in the latter half of the war so as to sink the most shipping possible. In fact, US sub commanders were known to complain if the Japanese ships didn't show up on time! This led to a severe shortage of raw materials necessary for Japan's war effort, especially oil.

Because of this, the Japanese couldn't build as many airplanes, nor could they train their pilots, and they couldn't build as many ships, and they couldn't resupply their far-flung outposts.

In effect, we did to Japan what the Germans were trying to do to England: Starve an island nation by using submarines as a naval blockade. We were actually able to accomplish that because we consistently were able to break Japanese codes, combined with the fact that Japan didn't have any kind of effective signals intelligence, nor did they have a technologically advanced anti-submarine warfare capability*.


*Had US submariners gone up against late war US/UK style ASW capabilities, they'd have gotten mauled just as badly as the Ubootwaffe.
 
2012-06-15 08:55:22 AM

DrPainMD: Delay: This text is now purple: Japan was never a threat to invade the United States.

When I take walks along the Marin Headlands I see bunker after bunker built to respond to the anticipated Japanese attack on the US. Did it ever happen? Well, there was that incident on December 7, 1941 when Japan attacked the US Naval Base at Pearl Harbor in an attempt to destroy the entire Pacific fleet. Perhaps you have been home schooled?

No, Japan had no way to establish or maintain supply lines to the mainland, and they knew it. BTW, Pearl Harbor was not part of the US, and according to the universally accepted rules of war, the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified (google: flying tigers).


Why were the Flying Tigers in China? Oh, yeah, Japanese Imperialism. (Google: Rape of Nanking).

Sorry, you want to play that game, Japan *ALWAYS* loses because they started it by invading Manchuria. (Google: Mukden Incident).
 
2012-06-15 09:15:48 AM
dittybopper: Why were the Flying Tigers in China? Oh, yeah, Japanese Imperialism. (Google: Rape of Nanking).

Sorry, you want to play that game, Japan *ALWAYS* loses because they started it by invading Manchuria. (Google: Mukden Incident).


THANK YOU.

DrPainMD Is the first FARKer in 8 years of being on here that I've ever had to farkie as a "Japanese WWII Apologist"
 
2012-06-15 09:20:44 AM

dittybopper: Sorry, you want to play that game, Japan *ALWAYS* loses because they started it by invading Manchuria. (Google: Mukden Incident)


Wrong america always loses because white men are bad.
 
2012-06-15 09:21:30 AM
Patton:
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He wins it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his."

Commander at Bunker Hill in the revolutionary War:
"Don;t fire till you see the whites of their eyes."

I am sure both are paraphrases.
 
2012-06-15 09:28:34 AM
Who am I? I am Susan Ivanova, Commander. Daughter of Andre and Sophie Ivanov. I am the right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Earth, sweetheart! I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you will ever see. God sent me.
 
2012-06-15 09:46:49 AM

zarberg: Woah, FTA:

"Upon seeing a flamethrower for the first time, Puller reportedly asked, "Where do you put the bayonet?"

Yeah, that's pretty badass.


Yeah, that made me LOL.

/coworkers think I'm nuts or something
 
2012-06-15 10:49:55 AM

Delay: tlchwi02: Delay: Too bad American high school students ignore Admiral Halsey. Why is that?

they barely touch on WW2 at all... or any wars, really. when i was in highschool the emphasis was on what causes a war and how the aftermath is dealt with. with the limited time highschool has to deliver american history (7th and 11th grades when i was there) they don't delve into the battles. The one guy who gets mentioned, if anyone does, is MacArthur and thats only because his showdown with Truman can be used as an example to discuss the president's role as commander in chief and one of the more famed times a military leader has directly challenged it

It's sad really. Ask the combatants. They tell us that Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Halsey determined the outcome of the Second World War.


and Zhukov, Koniev, and Rokossovsky had nothing to do with it.
 
2012-06-15 11:05:19 AM
"Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves."

Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: [about to face an onslaught of attacking NVA soldiers during the battle of Ia Drang Valley]

Taken from Hal Moore's book but if true is pretty ballsy.
 
2012-06-15 11:06:05 AM
bmfderek
2012-06-15 12:54:06 AM

"Stay on the bomb run, boys! I'm gonna get them doors open if it harelips everybody on Bear Creek!"
Major T.J. "King" Kong

It's "Bexar" creek. Pronounced "beyr" or "bear". It runs through San Antonio. You being from Houston, I'm surprised you don't know this.

/Not from Texas
 
2012-06-15 12:27:03 PM

CptnSpldng: "Who am I?
I am Susan Ivanova. Commander. Daughter of Andre and Sophie Ivanov. I am the right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Earth, sweetheart. I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you are ever going to see. God sent me."


"Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
 
2012-06-15 12:46:54 PM
crush your enemies have them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women
 
2012-06-15 12:53:56 PM
Classic as well:

"Another running gun battle today. Destroyer gunning, Wahoo running". Wahoo was a WWII submarine.

"Princess Royal's blown up, Sir." Beatty: "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today." Beatty at Jutland.
 
2012-06-15 02:01:58 PM
"Too many negative waves."

"Easy, we can fight. We got an army!"

"Your crabs will leave ya NOW!"

"Oh I'm sippin' wine and eating cheese and catchin' some rays."

"De Gaulle? He ain't even IN this war! YEEAAAAAAHH!"

...and my personal fave...


"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"


/"Fire at will,commander!"
 
2012-06-15 02:42:20 PM

Saiga410: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC!


how can you shoot women and children? you just dont lead them as much
 
2012-06-15 02:58:29 PM

Delay: relcec: I wonder if delay was trolling about halsey.

Not trolling, in my opinion and in the opinion of the Japanese admirals who were engaged therein, Halsey won this battle, and subsequently the rest of the war at sea. From then on the Japanese ships made no difference at all from this battle to the rest of the war. Why? The Japanese navy returned to port and were effectively destroyed. Maybe Halsey picked the admirals at the Battle of Samar by luck, maybe on skill, but on record, objectively, Halsey won the war in the Pacific.


See, I'm reading this and I'm wondering how to respond.

Halsey fell into a trap. A very, very big trap that, if executed better, would have set back the Philippines campaign for many months. He chased after worthless aircraft carriers, leaving the invasion force defended only by destroyers and escort carriers. If the Japanese commander were more aggressive (and had known that the force he was attacking was as light as it was), the Japanese would have won an amazing victory.

As it were, though, the IJN was on the ropes, and it would have taken a lot of lucky breaks for them to even delay the Allied advance. Halsey was a good commander, but there were a number of other Navy commanders who were better. Spruance and Mitscher (despite his mistakes at Midway) come to mind.
 
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